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March 07, 2024, 12:22:06 PM
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So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

In this I'll blame the shop owner or whoever is responsible for booking the games. Why would he just keep booking different bets for a person without asking for money?
From my experience, without the money you won't get the ticket, so why would he allow the person to have different tickets at different times without asking for money?

This kind of case is actually common in my early days of gambling years ago. I see it happen a lot. It usually doesn't get to a point of involving the police because these guys are usually regulars are the gambling shop so they usually sort things out between themselves.

Gambling is an interesting thing, the more you do, the more you want to do it. So if you're not careful you might gamble more than you have on you if it's possible and be in a lot of debt. It doesn't necessarily have to be a gambling addiction or greed, it can happen when you're sucked into the moment and you forget yourself.

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March 07, 2024, 12:33:28 PM
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We should apply wise decision in any condition we find ourselves. I know it's never easy to make the right choice every single time. Gambling is not easy task to anticipated, I've come across gamblers that have lost themselves in the space due to gambling and making gigantic losses. There's this fact about gambler, when they're losing, they fumble and lose confidence while the ones winning always proves to be formidable and buoyant in the system, they're not holding any doubt because they're keen on printing money from the system.
I believe the gamble was in great loses that he forgot himself and his available funds. He continued fighting to recover his lost funds and at that moment, every trait of discipline and rationality has left him. He's now undergoing the heat of his decision to gamble mindlessly, the more he gambled, the more he lost and it was obvious he was having a bad day.  I bet its the cashier that called his attention, else he would've gambled until his loses are up to $200 or more.

When you're losing as a gambler, there is  apex possibility of making wrong decisions because you're under serious pressure and your mind is distorted. Only someone not gambling for gains will be able to advise himself and pull out of that situation when his budgeted funds are dried up.

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March 07, 2024, 12:42:15 PM
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Addiction, greed and desperation of chasing the losses.

You'd see this normally in the physical betting shop when someone who still want to gamble but has lost everything that he brought. You'd be surprise that someone is going to approach you and will sell the gadgets that he's got and even watches that they wear.

At much worse case scenario, even the branded things that they have like clothes, bags, and all of those material things. That's why it's not shocking when someone goes to that point of losing everything but just can't accept defeat and want to stay longer through means of selling their stuff.

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March 07, 2024, 12:52:44 PM
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What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?


This story happened in my presence on Friday, when I visited a physical betting shop to book some games after that my battery ran down in the process of trying to place some bets with my smartphone to bet on a game that will kick-start in some minutes. There I was, there was this gentleman who was there before me playing the visual game and to cut the whole story short at the end, the gambler started having issues with the person who placed the games for him, reason being that after playing the visual game the gambler no longer has the money to pay the person, and he optioned to dropping his smartphone until when he brings the money and the money amounts to about $15+ and this lead to the owner of the shop inviting the police to settle the matter.

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?
It could be addiction, it could be greediness, and it could possibly be both.
Or maybe the youngman just innocently got carried away in the game that he totally forgot when he ran short of money, and when his pocket got empty, it could be either of this, but what ever be the reason or his reason, the truth remains that this is such an embarrassing situation and I wonder why he would allow himself get into such.
I understand that sometimes, people lose money genuinely while on their way to a place, like when their wallet containing their money fall down and they don't take notice, but then, if the young man doesn't have such excuse and it's genuine, then I think he should check himself, this incident may possibly be the warning he needs or prayed for, he should draw himself back from his gambling, for in the end, gambling is not for everyone, and even if everyone gambles, still, not everyone would win.

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March 07, 2024, 01:21:37 PM
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I think this is both. You need to be careful yourself only while gambling. Be it physical or virtual gambling, you need to always set a budget or balance for the gambling. Don’t gamble beyond this limit. Moreover gambling is all about game of luck, hence it’s alright to make losses. To be honest, I have always kept this thing in my mind while gambling, hence I have never landed in such a situation.
We should apply wise decision in any condition we find ourselves. I know it's never easy to make the right choice every single time. Gambling is not easy task to anticipated, I've come across gamblers that have lost themselves in the space due to gambling and making gigantic losses. There's this fact about gambler, when they're losing, they fumble and lose confidence while the ones winning always proves to be formidable and buoyant in the system, they're not holding any doubt because they're keen on printing money from the system.
Wisdom is no doubt needed in gambling and we should be disciplined and smart with it, if not, we may be wise but the emotion might make us set it aside and act based on the current situation that is caused by our emotions. Good determination is also needed in gambling, and I said this because many would know what to do, but when it comes to the time to do it, they would be doing another thing. This is bad and only emotion can cause it, but determination changes the narrative. This is why I can always advise that the gambler should first know what he is doing. To know this, you learn and discover/develop a gambling style. Then you proceed to have good management which entails the budget and others, and from there, you get to train yourself about the psychological aspect of gambling.

This aspect and that of management are the issues here, and when they are carefully solved, everything will be fine. But note, before any gambler walks into the physical casinos or bets online, they must have had a purpose, know the time to spend, the money to spend in that session and the calculation of how the money would be spent. If any gambler can do that and is truthful to the implementation thereof, what the OP says and even what you replied to, including your post's concern would be avoided.

I always say that gambling is not bad on its own, it is the approach many of us are playing it with that makes it bad and makes most people tag it as irresponsible.

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March 07, 2024, 02:07:06 PM
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What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?

I would say that's gambling over gambling lol. Expecting to win a profit and rely on luck. It's a risk that I can't take to do in reality. If lack of funds, then stop and go home instead of pushing for more. There's no Plan B on that action as losing the bet will result in a problem. It's a bet that the man just relies on his God to give him the luck to win. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.

Eagerness to win gone wrong. Hope he will learn the lesson after that incident.
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March 07, 2024, 02:17:03 PM
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The first thing that making them to gamble extra is the addiction. When you are gambling addicted you might even empty your house properties. Those are normal behaviours happens in casino sports betting Halls and that is why when  you visit the hall don't place any game for anyone because you might end up of paying something you don't even play. And if you do in the place those obnoxious characters would attack you and make you to pay for it. The boy that played the game deliberately do it because has no money again to continue the gambling and the best way to do that so he can leave the place with quarrel without paying for the game. Those are some of their behaviors. That is why some sports bookmakers take money before placing bet for anyone to avoid arguments.
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March 07, 2024, 02:57:35 PM
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Addiction, greed and desperation of chasing the losses.

You'd see this normally in the physical betting shop when someone who still want to gamble but has lost everything that he brought. You'd be surprise that someone is going to approach you and will sell the gadgets that he's got and even watches that they wear.

At much worse case scenario, even the branded things that they have like clothes, bags, and all of those material things. That's why it's not shocking when someone goes to that point of losing everything but just can't accept defeat and want to stay longer through means of selling their stuff.
Yes, those three things can leads gamblers to lose their money without having a chance to recover their lost. Someone who lose their money because playing gambling can sells their gadget or anything that they brought so they can have money to continue playing gambling. It's a signs that they are having addiction to gambling because they can't stops themselves from playing gambling. If they have a good self-control, they will not do that instead will leaves the casino without having thinking much about selling their gadgets.

Yes, that can happens to many gamblers who already addicted to gambling because they will not thinks twice to sells their stuff to have money. Their reasons is only one which is they can have money and continue to play gambling and recovers their lose. But this can attracts them to gets more losses without they realize and when they don't have anything, they will regrets it.

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March 07, 2024, 03:18:14 PM
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That's called as ignorance.

It seems like the gambler know if he don't have any money left, but he tried to take a risk in hoping he will win and he might able to recover all of his previous losses. Unfortunately the results went opposite and he don't know what to do to pay the winners.

Even the owner already inviting the police to settle the case, I believe he won't pay it and it's a loss for the owner since he will pay with his own pocket to the winners.

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March 07, 2024, 03:41:51 PM
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What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?


This story happened in my presence on Friday, when I visited a physical betting shop to book some games after that my battery ran down in the process of trying to place some bets with my smartphone to bet on a game that will kick-start in some minutes. There I was, there was this gentleman who was there before me playing the visual game and to cut the whole story short at the end, the gambler started having issues with the person who placed the games for him, reason being that after playing the visual game the gambler no longer has the money to pay the person, and he optioned to dropping his smartphone until when he brings the money and the money amounts to about $15+ and this lead to the owner of the shop inviting the police to settle the matter.

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

Probably, frustration right? most of the time when a gambler gets frustrated with a game, that is when he gets hit by his emotion ending up wanting to win more and his greediness is going to hit and put him to make a bet that he cannot really afford, for sure there are some gamblers that know this limitation but I mean if you are frustrated you could easily do anything that is wrong.

There are also some cases where the gambler becomes overconfident, what I mean is that first, he or she doesn't really have money to start betting with, he just started a bet without even having the money to pay, and he or is just overconfident that he is going to win, or probably what they called a sure win, I have a friend who uses this kind of strategy if you can even call it a strategy, he just doesn't have any kind of money but knowing that he is going to win, he bet money on a game even though he don't have money to pay because he know that he is surely going to win that. This means he is going to make money without even having the investment to start with, then that win could easily snowball to a lot more wins, and then after he already has won all of the money of his opponent which is pretty crazy since you could easily get into trouble doing that.

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I think this is both. You need to be careful yourself only while gambling. Be it physical or virtual gambling, you need to always set a budget or balance for the gambling. Don’t gamble beyond this limit. Moreover gambling is all about game of luck, hence it’s alright to make losses. To be honest, I have always kept this thing in my mind while gambling, hence I have never landed in such a situation.
We should apply wise decision in any condition we find ourselves. I know it's never easy to make the right choice every single time. Gambling is not easy task to anticipated, I've come across gamblers that have lost themselves in the space due to gambling and making gigantic losses. There's this fact about gambler, when they're losing, they fumble and lose confidence while the ones winning always proves to be formidable and buoyant in the system, they're not holding any doubt because they're keen on printing money from the system.
Wisdom is no doubt needed in gambling and we should be disciplined and smart with it, if not, we may be wise but the emotion might make us set it aside and act based on the current situation that is caused by our emotions. Good determination is also needed in gambling, and I said this because many would know what to do, but when it comes to the time to do it, they would be doing another thing. This is bad and only emotion can cause it, but determination changes the narrative. This is why I can always advise that the gambler should first know what he is doing. To know this, you learn and discover/develop a gambling style. Then you proceed to have good management which entails the budget and others, and from there, you get to train yourself about the psychological aspect of gambling.

This aspect and that of management are the issues here, and when they are carefully solved, everything will be fine. But note, before any gambler walks into the physical casinos or bets online, they must have had a purpose, know the time to spend, the money to spend in that session and the calculation of how the money would be spent. If any gambler can do that and is truthful to the implementation thereof, what the OP says and even what you replied to, including your post's concern would be avoided.

I always say that gambling is not bad on its own, it is the approach many of us are playing it with that makes it bad and makes most people tag it as irresponsible.
Everyone knows to be knowledgeable and disciplined, yet emotions enter the conversation and throw all that wisdom out the window. The situation is frustrating. Good determination, you said? Absolutely. Knowing you should eat healthy, but seeing pizza destroys your diet. We know what to do, but doing it? The true fight.

Learning and establishing a gambling style is smart and necessary. If you dont learn, you're giving the casino money. Dont even mention budgeting. Most dreams end there. Without a plan, you'll fail. I'll be honest - gambling's reputation comes from those who dont respect it. Its not gambling thats wrong, but how people gamble without a plan and abandon discipline. I always advise gambling wisely, not hard. Maybe the "gambling is irresponsible" narrative would change if everyone did that. We can dream, right?

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March 07, 2024, 03:49:43 PM
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The first thing that making them to gamble extra is the addiction. When you are gambling addicted you might even empty your house properties. Those are normal behaviours happens in casino sports betting Halls and that is why when  you visit the hall don't place any game for anyone because you might end up of paying something you don't even play. And if you do in the place those obnoxious characters would attack you and make you to pay for it. The boy that played the game deliberately do it because has no money again to continue the gambling and the best way to do that so he can leave the place with quarrel without paying for the game. Those are some of their behaviors. That is why some sports bookmakers take money before placing bet for anyone to avoid arguments.
Some sports bookmakers who has had this kind of experience for several occasions has resolved to taking money before ever letting the gamblers to go because they will become problematic if it happens that they eventually didn't get to pay and the book marker is insisting on collecting their payments. Gamblers who do this most times are intentional about it because they know that they will always be room for them to be pardoned and so they would want to use such opportunity to still try again and hop to pay if they eventually win which sometimes they don't.

I wouldn't advice you get to the point you will be willing to put your properties as a collateral to gamble because in some cases you may actually not be able to redeem it again a d that will affect you adversely due to the fact that you may not be able to get back your properties in extreme cases.

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What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?


This story happened in my presence on Friday when I visited a physical betting shop to book some games after that my battery ran down in the process of trying to place some bets with my smartphone to bet on a game that would kick-start in some minutes. There I was, there was this gentleman who was there before me playing the visual game and to cut the whole story short at the end, the gambler started having issues with the person who placed the games for him, the reason being that after playing the visual game the gambler no longer has the money to pay the person, and he optioned to dropping his smartphone until when he brings the money and the money amounts to about $15+ and this lead to the owner of the shop inviting the police to settle the matter.

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?
Since you said that the police were involved means gambling is legal in your country and at what you should know that the shop agent is at fault and that the gambler may have won the case and not even dropped his phone as he option to earlier, the reason being that he will need to phone to access the money to settle that bills incurred from the bets.
Why should an agent bet a game for a gambler when they have not paid, is it that gamblers are gambling on credits in the casino and if so is the case, it then means that the casino house should give the gambler time to sort out the vills, and since this is a civil case the police will not take it serious than to caution them and let the debt be paid in full regardless of the time it will take to pay off the debt.

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March 07, 2024, 03:55:46 PM
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That's called as ignorance.

It seems like the gambler know if he don't have any money left, but he tried to take a risk in hoping he will win and he might able to recover all of his previous losses. Unfortunately the results went opposite and he don't know what to do to pay the winners.

Even the owner already inviting the police to settle the case, I believe he won't pay it and it's a loss for the owner since he will pay with his own pocket to the winners.
Not just ignorance; what the gambler does in that situation is showing how desperate he is to the point that he will let destiny do the work, but unfortunately the time and moment didn't side him; instead, he experiences a great loss that will surely make him suffer. I don't want to say that it's good that it happens to him, but the thing is that happenings should be a lesson to him because if not and he will still spend a huge amount of money just to gamble without thinking about the circumstances, then he will be of help. As a gambler, thankfully, I still don't experience that scenario, as I also don't let my money be used in gambling as I value my money, and I also don't gamble out of desperation. I always keep my mind and self in check in order to avoid placing a bet or playing gambling.

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March 07, 2024, 04:29:21 PM
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What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?


This story happened in my presence on Friday, when I visited a physical betting shop to book some games after that my battery ran down in the process of trying to place some bets with my smartphone to bet on a game that will kick-start in some minutes. There I was, there was this gentleman who was there before me playing the visual game and to cut the whole story short at the end, the gambler started having issues with the person who placed the games for him, reason being that after playing the visual game the gambler no longer has the money to pay the person, and he optioned to dropping his smartphone until when he brings the money and the money amounts to about $15+ and this lead to the owner of the shop inviting the police to settle the matter.

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?
He obviously addicted, because that's the one reason for anyone to actually go beyond what their pocket is carrying in the process of playing your gamble in a shop and for this kinds of situation, I have seen them countless times and all the end to the story is the same as an addiction is mainly the cause for such behavior by a gambler.
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So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?
Op your narration is actually true because i have actually witnessed a scene where such thing happened. But regarding your question concerning addiction and greediness i can also tell you that his reason might not be either of the two. His actions or what propelled him to play that visual might be financial instability, family problems, rents, children's school fees and many more and he is probably seeking for an alternative to stabilize his financial needs.

In addition, most gamblers are not addicted or greedy, they actually gamble in other to solve the problem that they are facing at that particular point in time  .In most countries where  the economy has not been very friendly with her citizens, as a result of bad governance and lack of job opportunities however, most of the citizens result to trying their lucks through gambling to know if luck will shine on them in other for them to meet up with their domestic and social needs and that does not actually means that they are greedy or addicted but they act out of frustration.



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So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?

Both!
In my country, gambling is prohibited, but it is a crime to go to an establishment and consume a service or product knowing that you will not be able to pay for it.
Maybe this gentleman didn't want to act in bad faith and just forgot? could it be. But even so, this probably happened because he was so addicted to the casino that he only thought about getting to his destination quickly without worrying about something that is "basic" for anyone: checking if he has money before leaving home.

In any case, probably at some point he remembered that he was out of money, and that's where greed comes in... because he was confident that he could earn more and that way he wouldn't need to withdraw the money.

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March 08, 2024, 01:45:33 AM
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So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?
Both addiction and greediness. Not being able to control himself to refrain from placing bets since he don't have money anymore shows that he is already addicted. This kind of scenario is not really surprising because they tend to do things that only addicted gamblers can do.

The greed to gain money in gambling is pushing someone to become an addicted gambler and continue playing. If you have this desire as your goal on why you gamble in the first place, it will likely result for you to become addicted since your main reason is not to entertain yourself. Many gamblers are still playing without control even there are plenty of reminders on how to gamble in moderation. We really can't force someone to do as we say.

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March 08, 2024, 01:59:13 AM
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What could cause a gambler to place a bet to the extent that he no longer has money to pay for the games he played?


This story happened in my presence on Friday, when I visited a physical betting shop to book some games after that my battery ran down in the process of trying to place some bets with my smartphone to bet on a game that will kick-start in some minutes. There I was, there was this gentleman who was there before me playing the visual game and to cut the whole story short at the end, the gambler started having issues with the person who placed the games for him, reason being that after playing the visual game the gambler no longer has the money to pay the person, and he optioned to dropping his smartphone until when he brings the money and the money amounts to about $15+ and this lead to the owner of the shop inviting the police to settle the matter.

So the question now is: What could really put a gambler in such a situation, addiction, or greediness?
There are many reasons which could explain why this may happen, the most simple one is that he simply forgot his wallet or maybe he thought he had more money there than the amount he actually brought to the casino.

But it is also possible that the problem is that he has gambled for so long that he ran out of money, you were the one there so you probably know which one is the most likely, but if it is the latter then being addicted, intoxicated or being in a state of tilt could be possible explanations to this behavior.

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March 08, 2024, 02:15:37 AM
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The first thing that making them to gamble extra is the addiction. When you are gambling addicted you might even empty your house properties. Those are normal behaviours happens in casino sports betting Halls and that is why when  you visit the hall don't place any game for anyone because you might end up of paying something you don't even play. And if you do in the place those obnoxious characters would attack you and make you to pay for it. The boy that played the game deliberately do it because has no money again to continue the gambling and the best way to do that so he can leave the place with quarrel without paying for the game. Those are some of their behaviors. That is why some sports bookmakers take money before placing bet for anyone to avoid arguments.
Addiction may be a very damaging force in someone's life, leading them to make decisions they would not normally make. This can cause a variety of problems, including financial troubles, relationship breakdowns, and even legal issues. This is something that should be taken very seriously.
We can also consider other psychological issues that can influence gambling behavior. For example, there is the gambler's fallacy, which is the false notion that a bad streak would be followed by a good streak. This can encourage someone to continue betting even if they are losing money.
 There's also something called the sunk cost fallacy, which is the idea that people will keep investing in something, even when it's not a good investment, because they've already invested so much time or money into it. This is a common problem amongst gamblers, it's in other words known as chasing losses.

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