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March 03, 2024, 06:43:10 PM
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What's your opinion about this letter?

https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1b51kyk/dear_eddie_and_stake

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March 03, 2024, 07:22:43 PM
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As one of the comments suggests, if not them, it'll be someone else who's marketing aggressively. There is no solution for it and as long as it is legal and allowed, they'll continue to do so. Premier League have banned gambling sponsors from the season 2026/27. More leagues and governments should come together to tone down the marketing a bit and figure out scenarios that levels the playing field. I know it is a capitalistic world they are spending hefty amounts to be where they are, and they deserve it for that. If I was in their place, I'd probably be doing the same, if not more. It is in their interest to gain more customers and market share while it is in the government's interest to not lose more promising youth to degenerate gambling and addiction.

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March 03, 2024, 07:32:09 PM
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The negative impact of gambling addictions and losses can never be overemphasized and for sure casinos find every possible means to market themselves and as long as gambling is legal there is nothing to be done about how the aggressive marketing approach of casino owners increases the rate of crisis.

But much more also, gambling control should be an individual responsibility, since casinos are out to make profits as business ventures, but the other point I may likely deviate also from the open water is where the writer mentioned gambling as a tool for terrorism, this is quite confusing a bit for me, and I believe that the letter was written with much more biased mindset which may have failed to point out every justifiable reason why gambling will destroy the next generation even if properly controlled.

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March 03, 2024, 07:44:25 PM
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I may likely deviate also from the open water is where the writer mentioned gambling as a tool for terrorism, this is quite confusing a bit for me

The writer was using a sort of a metaphor.
Terrorists kill people and destroy things.
He was implying Eddie supposedly is killing an entire generation by getting them addicted.
Hope it makes sense now.

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March 03, 2024, 08:01:10 PM
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“i couldn’t give you any more props on the way you do capitalism — it’s next level.” is such a funny line  Cheesy but anyway i understand op’s concern especially having to experience that themselves but eddie is a businessman but he does not force gambling into everyone so it is up to us to make that decision for ourselves

what does op want eddie to do? close down? even if eddie closes down all his gambling businesses, people are just going to look for others and will continue to find ways to gamble

he supplies because there is demand simple as that

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March 03, 2024, 08:10:10 PM
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Strewth, whatever's in that letter, Eddie couldn't give a toss. He's a fair dinkum billionaire, mate, built himself a bloody empire that'll outlast us all. And it ain't just for him, nah. He reckons it's high time to start poppin' out some ankle biters, y'know, so there's someone to inherit the fortune when he's carked it.
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March 03, 2024, 08:19:19 PM
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I may likely deviate also from the open water is where the writer mentioned gambling as a tool for terrorism, this is quite confusing a bit for me

The writer was using a sort of a metaphor.
Terrorists kill people and destroy things.

For God's sake, he equated the casino owner with a terrorist and called him one of the most dangerous people on the planet. That was not a metaphor!

He was implying Eddie supposedly is killing an entire generation by getting them addicted.
Hope it makes sense now.

Blaming the gambling industry for addiction is about as logical as blaming breweries for drunk drivers, or worse, the bartenders who serve them.  What happened to taking responsibility for your own actions these days?  That dude is probably just a sore loser and needs to get over it. Blaming everyone else for his own mistakes is not gonna win him any money.

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March 03, 2024, 08:25:53 PM
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The writer was using a sort of a metaphor.
Terrorists kill people and destroy things.
He was implying Eddie supposedly is killing an entire generation by getting them addicted.
Hope it makes sense now.

If the casino is a success it means a lot of people have lost money there, but it doesn't mean that 100% of the users lose. Some of them have good days and walk away from the casino with profit. But this open letter will not change anything, is like writing an open letter to NATO telling them how people are dying daily due to the wars they are supporting.

We need to understand the world already works in one way, and if we don't like it we only can change our actions, but it's on each individual to take this decision.

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March 03, 2024, 08:30:57 PM
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For God's sake, he equated the casino owner with a terrorist and called him one of the most dangerous people on the planet. That was not a metaphor!

*metaphor = expressions that mean something different from their literal definition

Yes, he did take a very extreme approach, he was exaggerating for sure with his words.

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March 03, 2024, 09:08:59 PM
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He was implying Eddie supposedly is killing an entire generation by getting them addicted.
Hope it makes sense now.
Sure gambling can be addictive, but so can anything else, drugs, alcohol, junk food, video games, and much more.
Modern governments are much worse than Eddie and they kill more people than any terrorist.
How is that nobody is writing public letters to governments that openly support lottery gambling scheme that is another form of scam, or ever rising taxation and rapidly growing inflation, or money printing from nothing?

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March 03, 2024, 09:57:42 PM
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For God's sake, he equated the casino owner with a terrorist and called him one of the most dangerous people on the planet. That was not a metaphor!

*metaphor = expressions that mean something different from their literal definition

Yes, he did take a very extreme approach, he was exaggerating for sure with his words.

It is more like a hyperbole, IMO, since the statement is composed of an exaggerated figures of speech to give more strength to the impression.

Anyway, I agree that a person should be responsible of his action.  The casino is just advertizing and offers promos and bonuses to entice people to engage with Stake casino but they do not force people nor threaten them to spend their money to gamble in their platform.

Any ending is the gambler's fault.  No one to blame for one action but himself alone, since the gambler voluntarily wager his money, wether it is a win or lose, the result is the doer's responsibility.


Blaming everyone else for his own mistakes is not gonna win him any money.


Worst, he will never realize his mistakes and will be stuck with his problem forever.
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March 03, 2024, 10:55:11 PM
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You should have posted the content of the letter in addition to the link. It's already deleted by the OP but I'm guessing based on the replies there that it's about the non-stop advertisement of streamers on Kick causing addiction even among the younger generations. I don't really know what to say since it's a streaming platform that they also own. It will probably take more letters like that before Stake reconsiders.

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March 03, 2024, 11:25:52 PM
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Hey i can't get any information there it was said the post was deleted by the original person who posted after i click through the link you provided above, doesn't mean that nobody has the full information let me follow up since I have started developing interest to use the site to gamble. Although most times i do prefer local casinos it is easier and stress free.

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March 03, 2024, 11:33:35 PM
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Hey i can't get any information there it was said the post was deleted by the original person who posted after i click through the link you provided above, doesn't mean that nobody has the full information let me follow up since I have started developing interest to use the site to gamble. Although most times i do prefer local casinos it is easier and stress free.
I was also looking at the link as the post was deleted but I guess some members here have got a summary of that post.

The writer was using a sort of a metaphor.
Terrorists kill people and destroy things.
He was implying Eddie supposedly is killing an entire generation by getting them addicted.
Hope it makes sense now.

I guess that this was the post all about but we need to get more of the context or this was actually all of it.

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March 03, 2024, 11:45:01 PM
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You should have posted the content of the letter in addition to the link. It's already deleted by the OP but I'm guessing based on the replies there that it's about the non-stop advertisement of streamers on Kick causing addiction even among the younger generations. I don't really know what to say since it's a streaming platform that they also own. It will probably take more letters like that before Stake reconsiders.

And I don't think that Stake might consider this. I mean they are in the business of making money, and just like any business, they will aggressively promote it. How many of us when we are little used to take a job to give flyers in the street because we are hired by someone to let others known about their business? This is pre-internet and social media.

But now that we are in this age wherein everyone can be put online including ads and promotions, I think this company will take advantage of it. Same with that streaming platform, again they are being paid by Stake or whatever casino it is to promote it to their platform and so obviously they will have to take that money.

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March 04, 2024, 12:14:13 AM
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You should have posted the content of the letter in addition to the link. It's already deleted by the OP but I'm guessing based on the replies there that it's about the non-stop advertisement of streamers on Kick causing addiction even among the younger generations. I don't really know what to say since it's a streaming platform that they also own. It will probably take more letters like that before Stake reconsiders.
And I don't think that Stake might consider this. I mean they are in the business of making money, and just like any business, they will aggressively promote it. How many of us when we are little used to take a job to give flyers in the street because we are hired by someone to let others known about their business? This is pre-internet and social media.

But now that we are in this age wherein everyone can be put online including ads and promotions, I think this company will take advantage of it. Same with that streaming platform, again they are being paid by Stake or whatever casino it is to promote it to their platform and so obviously they will have to take that money.
They will keep doing what they usually do and even ramp it up until they meet more pressure to stop. An intervention from a large organization as a result of that mounting pressure may damage their reputation as a business. It may even cause a call for regulatory review and revision. You know that businesses also have some image to protect and they are only granted a license to operate.

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March 04, 2024, 01:41:29 AM
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It doesn't look like something unique to stake. If any other company had the capability, they'd probably do so really. At the end of the day, they're still a business and in most cases with businesses, morals be damned. And they can probably push the blame to the parents here rather easily really, or to any platforms that don't restrict their users to people of legal age when they're gambling. And from what others have said, they're promoting it on their own platform, which basically says that it's gambling oriented streaming platform. If they aren't going to promote gambling, when they themselves are one, there'd be no point no?

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I see logic in the argument, and that is why there are several countries that prohibit or have restricted the advertising of betting houses. The problem with gambling today is that the internet is available 24/7, which is potentially much more addictive than when the only way to bet was to go to a place. But I agree that in the end everyone is responsible for their actions, we should not forget that. In the end, online gambling is one of the possible addictions on the Internet, like online porn or being hooked on Instagram likes. Everyone must be aware of the world we live in, its potential risks, and act accordingly.

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March 04, 2024, 05:19:00 AM
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The writer was using a sort of a metaphor.
Terrorists kill people and destroy things.
He was implying Eddie supposedly is killing an entire generation by getting them addicted.
Hope it makes sense now.

If the casino is a success it means a lot of people have lost money there, but it doesn't mean that 100% of the users lose. Some of them have good days and walk away from the casino with profit. But this open letter will not change anything, is like writing an open letter to NATO telling them how people are dying daily due to the wars they are supporting.

We need to understand the world already works in one way, and if we don't like it we only can change our actions, but it's on each individual to take this decision.
I have not read the letter, will do much later, so to keep this thread on my watchlist, I am writing this comment.

I very much agree with your submission, casinos are a business, and they never force anyone into patronizing them, they only place ads, people see those ads and decide on their own whether to sign up on that casino, deposit money and play, or just ignore, those who choose to ignore do, and those who don't do otherwise, there was never a time casinos force people into gambling, and as such, they can't be blamed for those who gamble too much to the extent of getting addicted.

We could use alcohol, cigarettes, drug companies as an example, many people are not only addicted to alcohol, smoking and intake of various types harmful drugs, but alot, and I mean millions of both young and old people have lost their life to this things, and yet, the companies producing them continue to legally produce more and more of this substances, most especially alcohol and cigarettes, and some legally produced drugs which are being abused by people, why hasn't the author of this stake open letter written an open letter to each of the companies producing this alcohols, cigarettes and so on? What makes him think that casinos destroy more lives than alcohol producing companies? Cigarettes and companies that produce all this harmful drugs?

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The post was deleted by the user who created it. So I guess he saw the consequences of his actions and he did some damage control.

You cannot say things like that on social media and then think that there will not be consequences. Eddie is actually a nice bloke and it is his business to market it as his marketing team sees fit.

If you feel strong about something, contact the person you have an issue with ..directly, do not post it in public.. where it will be torn to pieces and also tarnish a person's reputation.

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