Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?

[peter0425]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

As long as you are not investing because of FOMO or for short term profit. If you intend to have a long term bitcoin investment for 4-6yrs and above, then the price that you are buying shouldn't be a problem. This is why we have the DCA method of accumulating bitcoin, which gives us the advantage to buy bitcoin irrespective of the price.

if you are a small time investor then you must take space investing in this hyping market because what can you get when you put money in something that you cannot afford to hold longer.
bitcoin is not for easy money thing of investing and that is the truth around here.

Buying regularly using DCA helps you to balance the average price of bitcoin in your bitcoin investment, because if you are consistent, and persistent in it, after buying at the bull run, you will still buy during the bottom line of the next bear market, and so on. By next circle bull run, you will have some profits. Don't allow the price of bitcoin to discourage you and keep on waiting, because that is the worst of it.

well either DCA or scalping as long as you are not greedy then yeah you can apply those strategy to take small profit each time.

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[Oasisman]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools?

Your question is not a simple Yes or No. Anyone going all in and Holding at these levels is probably a fool who will panic sell at much lower prices. A savvy trader can start slow, saving funds to buy more at lower prices, and start to play the medium-term moves while holding a moderate amount. Now, add some income paid in Bitcoin and you are off to a great start.

There is quite a difference between a plain investor to a trader. Those that you have stated who go all in during an ATH is most probably a new investor who don't want to miss out the bullrun. So, that kind of investors are in no way a trader as well, otherwise he'd f*cked up.
If what you meant about trading is buying bitcoin? Then I assume what you meant to say is to try the DCA method, as you mentioned to save and buy at a lower price. It's the best method in accumulating bitcoin to try not to miss every dip, but for someone who bought at the ATH, they should be fine though as long as they hold onto it for several years.

[SickDayIn]

It's only the all-time high so far, but also, comparing your Bitcoin to fiat is an issue within itself. Bitcoin going up in fiat price is not an indication of the value of Bitcoin increasing, but it is an indication that the value of fiat is diminishing in our world as we know it. There are so many periods in the past 10 years where I have told myself not to invest because it was an ATH at that point, and how I regret each and every moment.

[Reatim]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

I understand what you are asking, clearly every investment decision will definitely involve risk, for Bitcoin prices can go up or down dramatically. However, it can all be anticipated with some other people's experiences that we can follow or roughly speaking (cheating).
Usually a major correction will occur after reaching the ATH, but Bitcoin and crypto markets are also known for their high volatility. Especially for those who FOMO is very stupid because they don't understand the habitability of a market and get stuck in a situation where they can't afford to sell it back because the price is plunging down and it takes a long time to wait for it to stabilize again.

The fool continues to think that Bitcoin will correct deeply and wait for it to buy it, while in reality Bitcoin continues to increase and even continues to print the latest ATH. If we talk about investors, of course an investor will not keep assets for a short time like traders. investors have a long view, so investors who wait for a deep price correction are the fools. Also take advantage of FOMO from retail or traders who don't understand Bitcoin and still think Bitcoin is the same as other shitcoins.

As Bitcoin is a strong digital asset, it is wisest to invest in it long-term regardless of its price. there are HUGE investors who are now investing heavily in Bitcoin even though the price of Bitcoin has pumped up and hit a new ATH.

I can not stress this enough because you might even lose more if you just invest in short term instead of investing for the long term. Considering the amount of bitcoin you bought and the transaction fees, you need to make sure that your transaction is worth it. If you are just going to keep taking it out then you might be losing more.

Of course traders are a different conversation all together but if you are not one then it is much more advisable to invest in bitcoin and hold it for a long time.

[rodskee]

Yeah, there's always that possibility of a big drop, especially when prices have been shooting up like crazy. But trying to pinpoint when it'll happen is like playing a guessing game. It's like trying to catch a falling knife.

Even falling knife is manageable to catch or even as easy when we are talking about
expertise same as how experts in Bitcoin can give prediction , it may not that accurate
but at least closer to what will come to us .
and guessing game? well we must not call this a game but instead a challenge.

[arwin100]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools?

Your question is not a simple Yes or No. Anyone going all in and Holding at these levels is probably a fool who will panic sell at much lower prices. A savvy trader can start slow, saving funds to buy more at lower prices, and start to play the medium-term moves while holding a moderate amount. Now, add some income paid in Bitcoin and you are off to a great start.

There is quite a difference between a plain investor to a trader. Those that you have stated who go all in during an ATH is most probably a new investor who don't want to miss out the bullrun. So, that kind of investors are in no way a trader as well, otherwise he'd f*cked up.
If what you meant about trading is buying bitcoin? Then I assume what you meant to say is to try the DCA method, as you mentioned to save and buy at a lower price. It's the best method in accumulating bitcoin to try not to miss every dip, but for someone who bought at the ATH, they should be fine though as long as they hold onto it for several years.

They maybe at trading perspective if they think that those people who buy at ATH is fool since if we are for short term trading then maybe we can say that it is since its maybe hard to earn a profit with that since the price may go to a correction process and they lose their bought bitcoins especially if they can't handle the stress of dumping market.

But if they are for long time hold whatever figures they could able to buy then its fine since the target is for long term that's why we can expect that nothing will happen to us whatever market situation will occur. Since we have target set and we can able  ignore anything happens in the market since what we are trying to do is to accumulate more and increase our holdings. Many maybe afraid to do this but since we are in bitcoin the chances to get a good pumps in future is really possible. We see how bitcoin perform for over the years.

[arjunmujay]

This part kind of seems correct, yet I am not sure exactly what you mean by "the next halvening" since we have a halvening coming up in about 3 weeks, so are you suggesting that someone invests into bitcoin for 3 weeks ONLY? or are you referring to the next halvening being 4 years from now?  

I would agree that having a 4-year investment timeline would be a good idea, yet if you were merely referring to this upcoming halvening as an investment timeline, then that would more likely be trading and/or gambling rather than investing.

No sir, what I mean is the halving in the next 4 years, not the halving which is now only a few days away.
In fact, I've calculated that if I could only buy Bitcoin monthly, I could collect around $4,700 over the next 4 years if I could really get $100 every month regularly.

[AirtelBuzz]

Currently the value of Bitcoin is 67k, it can be said that Bitcoin still has a high value. We all know and believe that Bitcoin will rise above 100k. As such, even if someone buys Bitcoin now at 70k price, it will not be a loss, he can still make a profit by buying Bitcoin now. Because the price of Bitcoin will increase. There is always someone buying bitcoins, it is impossible to stop buying bitcoins.

Still the price of Bitcoin is quite high so if we can buy Bitcoin at this price it may be right for us to hold it for a long time until the bullish season starts. We may not be foolish to buy Bitcoin at this price, but those who see Bitcoin fall and then sell it at a lower price would be foolish. Those of us who invest in Bitcoin should invest with a specific goal as everyone should have an investment goal. Whenever we invest in bitcoins with our target and accumulate bitcoins from there even if the price of bitcoins goes down, we will be able to hold it no matter what our objective is to reach the target. We can buy bitcoin anytime we want but whenever we buy bitcoin we have to hold it for a certain time limit.

[JayJuanGee]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

As long as you are not investing because of FOMO or for short term profit. If you intend to have a long term bitcoin investment for 4-6yrs and above, then the price that you are buying shouldn't be a problem. This is why we have the DCA method of accumulating bitcoin, which gives us the advantage to buy bitcoin irrespective of the price.

if you are a small time investor then you must take space investing in this hyping market because what can you get when you put money in something that you cannot afford to hold longer.
bitcoin is not for easy money thing of investing and that is the truth around here.

Buying regularly using DCA helps you to balance the average price of bitcoin in your bitcoin investment, because if you are consistent, and persistent in it, after buying at the bull run, you will still buy during the bottom line of the next bear market, and so on. By next circle bull run, you will have some profits. Don't allow the price of bitcoin to discourage you and keep on waiting, because that is the worst of it.

well either DCA or scalping as long as you are not greedy then yeah you can apply those strategy to take small profit each time.

Hey peter0425.  I thought that you had told me that you learned your lesson in regards to your past pissing around with trying to scalp prior to reaching some decent BTC accumulation amounts?

In other words, those scalping ideas tend to be a slippery slope and might not be a good idea until you get to a state of overaccumulation of BTC... and yeah at the same time, every guy has to make his own choices in regards to either whether to continue to accumulate or to start to piss around with scalping prior to such a time of reaching overaccumulation of BTC.

It's only the all-time high so far, but also, comparing your Bitcoin to fiat is an issue within itself. Bitcoin going up in fiat price is not an indication of the value of Bitcoin increasing, but it is an indication that the value of fiat is diminishing in our world as we know it. There are so many periods in the past 10 years where I have told myself not to invest because it was an ATH at that point, and how I regret each and every moment.

You are inaccurate if you are proclaiming that BTC prices are going up merely because fiat value is debasing (and/or inflation of prices).  Sure, there is some of that going on, but the debasement of fiat is not the ONLY factor that explains BTC price appreciation.. .. so hopefully you are not allowing such simplified (yet not completely false) talking points dissuade you from making sure that you sufficiently/adequately allocate to bitcoin to the best of your abilities.

And by the way, there are a lot of reasons why BTC prices are going up faster than the debasement of the dollar(fiat), including but not limited to sound money ideas, but also in terms of exponential s-curve adoption kinds of ideas that also tie into the seven network effects as outlined by Trace Mayer.

[arjunmujay]

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Whenever we invest in bitcoins with our target and accumulate bitcoins from there even if the price of bitcoins goes down, we will be able to hold it no matter what our objective is to reach the target. We can buy bitcoin anytime we want but whenever we buy bitcoin we have to hold it for a certain time limit.

As someone who can be said to be more advanced regarding Bitcoin compared to those who are just starting out, this strategy must be very familiar here and always guides everyone.

So just keep accumulating bitcoin holdings regardless of current market conditions, whether they are bullish or bearish. keep buying and holding for the next 4 years. Surely you will feel how great investing in Bitcoin is. It can even beat the investments in the stock market that people out there have made. and never act stupidly and panic when the price of bitcoin drops and then sell it. in fact it is a better time to buy bitcoin at a discount.

[Bravut]

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Whenever we invest in bitcoins with our target and accumulate bitcoins from there even if the price of bitcoins goes down, we will be able to hold it no matter what our objective is to reach the target. We can buy bitcoin anytime we want but whenever we buy bitcoin we have to hold it for a certain time limit.

As someone who can be said to be more advanced regarding Bitcoin compared to those who are just starting out, this strategy must be very familiar here and always guides everyone.

So just keep accumulating bitcoin holdings regardless of current market conditions, whether they are bullish or bearish. keep buying and holding for the next 4 years. Surely you will feel how great investing in Bitcoin is. It can even beat the investments in the stock market that people out there have made. and never act stupidly and panic when the price of bitcoin drops and then sell it. in fact it is a better time to buy bitcoin at a discount.

I don't see the reason why most persons care more about Bitcoin current market condition and careless about building there portfolio. Bitcoin keep appreciating regardless, past histories and present data show the promising future of bitcoin, so it doesn't matter whether bitcoin drops or pumps what matter is your investment portfolio, accumulating enough out of bitcoin.

We must know in any financial market there is three phase either uptrend, downtrend or consolidation. These phases also have sub structures inside of it, we know bitcoin is in uptrend,  so why the panic.

My only advice is that the high expectation on bitcoin should be curtail so as keep your emotions, greed and risk tolerance in check, I guess this is where the problem comes from, that why only a pullback or drop some begin to sell off rather than accumulating more.
Looking from different perspective  probably they might have made profits off there holding, still doesn't satisfy the need for investing in Bitcoin with a short term view.

[Bitco55]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now?

No, they aren't. The best time to have invested in Bitcoin or even own it in my opinion would have been before the ATH but investing in Bitcoin now isn't a foolish idea, because the probability of Bitcoin going beyond the ATH price is very high, and investors investing now would gain over triple what the invested.

The thing is a lot of people in this period may be begin to invest cause of Fear Of Missing Out. But that's also helping the market as the more Bitcoin becomes popular and the more investors invest in it, the higher it's worth, value and it's price. It's not at all times fear leads to irrational decisions, sometimes it pushes us to change ourselves and our lives. So, in conclusion, the people investing now, out of fear and out of knowledge aren't fools but are people actually helping the market.

[itorai]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

I understand what you are asking, clearly every investment decision will definitely involve risk, for Bitcoin prices can go up or down dramatically. However, it can all be anticipated with some other people's experiences that we can follow or roughly speaking (cheating).
Usually a major correction will occur after reaching the ATH, but Bitcoin and crypto markets are also known for their high volatility. Especially for those who FOMO is very stupid because they don't understand the habitability of a market and get stuck in a situation where they can't afford to sell it back because the price is plunging down and it takes a long time to wait for it to stabilize again.

The fool continues to think that Bitcoin will correct deeply and wait for it to buy it, while in reality Bitcoin continues to increase and even continues to print the latest ATH. If we talk about investors, of course an investor will not keep assets for a short time like traders. investors have a long view, so investors who wait for a deep price correction are the fools. Also take advantage of FOMO from retail or traders who don't understand Bitcoin and still think Bitcoin is the same as other shitcoins.

No one knows at what price ATH will happen so people who love Bitcoin are always interested in buying Bitcoin. But in this case, panic buyers and panic sellers make decisions very quickly due to which they face huge losses. As Bitcoin is a strong digital asset, it is wisest to invest in it long-term regardless of its price. there are HUGE investors who are now investing heavily in Bitcoin even though the price of Bitcoin has pumped up and hit a new ATH.

I agree with your view @leonair that big investors and realize that bitcoin has great potential, maybe they are ignorant and do not pay attention to the conditions where the new ath has occurred, because they invest long term for a dozen years maybe more, and what is clear is that bitcoin is very unique where in the past he was considered an ordinary coin and in fact now bitcoin is being hunted by investors who are aware of its potential.

[arjunmujay]

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My only advice is that the high expectation on bitcoin should be curtail so as keep your emotions, greed and risk tolerance in check, I guess this is where the problem comes from, that why only a pullback or drop some begin to sell off rather than accumulating more.
Looking from different perspective  probably they might have made profits off there holding, still doesn't satisfy the need for investing in Bitcoin with a short term view.

The emotions that arise are due to the investors' own greed. In fact, there are still many who claim to be investors but still use trading strategies, even though they are very different.

A trader definitely still looks at market conditions, and all he thinks about is quick and momentary profits. different from investors, who are actually happy if bitcoin is experiencing a correction. they can instead get bitcoin at a cheaper price to grow their portfolio. and investors are not selling it in the near future because again considering the prospects for bitcoin are long term.

real investors will never sell their bitcoins within 3-4 years. even during that time, many continued to accumulate bitcoin holdings. only if it has been more than 4 years, they will sell only around 3-10% of the portfolio to enjoy their patience in collecting bitcoin without having to sacrifice their portfolio.

I agree with your view @leonair that big investors and realize that bitcoin has great potential, maybe they are ignorant and do not pay attention to the conditions where the new ath has occurred, because they invest long term for a dozen years maybe more, and what is clear is that bitcoin is very unique where in the past he was considered an ordinary coin and in fact now bitcoin is being hunted by investors who are aware of its potential.

what about you now, have you started to accumulate bitcoin ownership?

In fact, it would be great if you could hold on to Bitcoin for up to a dozen years. but it still depends on the age of the owner. and it is impossible for someone who is 40-50 years old to continue accumulating bitcoin for a dozen years. If you are still young, maybe you can have a peaceful old age. but the fastest in my opinion is only 4 years, then think about what happens in the future. continue to continue or sell it little by little to enjoy a fulfilling life.

[leonair]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

I understand what you are asking, clearly every investment decision will definitely involve risk, for Bitcoin prices can go up or down dramatically. However, it can all be anticipated with some other people's experiences that we can follow or roughly speaking (cheating).
Usually a major correction will occur after reaching the ATH, but Bitcoin and crypto markets are also known for their high volatility. Especially for those who FOMO is very stupid because they don't understand the habitability of a market and get stuck in a situation where they can't afford to sell it back because the price is plunging down and it takes a long time to wait for it to stabilize again.

The fool continues to think that Bitcoin will correct deeply and wait for it to buy it, while in reality Bitcoin continues to increase and even continues to print the latest ATH. If we talk about investors, of course an investor will not keep assets for a short time like traders. investors have a long view, so investors who wait for a deep price correction are the fools. Also take advantage of FOMO from retail or traders who don't understand Bitcoin and still think Bitcoin is the same as other shitcoins.

No one knows at what price ATH will happen so people who love Bitcoin are always interested in buying Bitcoin. But in this case, panic buyers and panic sellers make decisions very quickly due to which they face huge losses. As Bitcoin is a strong digital asset, it is wisest to invest in it long-term regardless of its price. there are HUGE investors who are now investing heavily in Bitcoin even though the price of Bitcoin has pumped up and hit a new ATH.

I agree with your view @leonair that big investors and realize that bitcoin has great potential, maybe they are ignorant and do not pay attention to the conditions where the new ath has occurred, because they invest long term for a dozen years maybe more, and what is clear is that bitcoin is very unique where in the past he was considered an ordinary coin and in fact now bitcoin is being hunted by investors who are aware of its potential.

Yes ATH is not permanent it is only a high price till present time so in future bitcoin price may be many times more than that so real holders never think about ATH. The supply of Bitcoin is limited but the demand is unlimited because so far not everyone has started using Bitcoin worldwide yet the price of Bitcoin is high and when Bitcoin starts to be used by most people worldwide then the price of Bitcoin will be higher. So holding only for long term is always a good decision

[mamesso]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

It should be underlined, no one knew that the rising Bitcoin price this year would be an ATH and that Bitcoin would fall soon after. Investors are investing in Bitcoin today because they believe it can offer significant returns and as a hedge against economic instability. They have predicted Bitcoin has a bright future, taking advantage of the current market moment can provide big profits in the future even if investing a small amount.

Investors believe Bitcoin is a safe store of value compared to fiat currencies such as the dollar, they try to anticipate the future when the dollar starts to weaken. Bitcoin always plays an important role in financial resilience when the economy is turbulent, Investors' trust in Bitcoin will enable them to achieve multiple profits in the future.
If you think investors have done something stupid by investing now, in my opinion, they don't want to make the mistake of not buying Bitcoin when they had the opportunity.

[bitzizzix]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

It should be underlined, no one knew that the rising Bitcoin price this year would be an ATH and that Bitcoin would fall soon after. Investors are investing in Bitcoin today because they believe it can offer significant returns and as a hedge against economic instability. They have predicted Bitcoin has a bright future, taking advantage of the current market moment can provide big profits in the future even if investing a small amount.

Investors believe Bitcoin is a safe store of value compared to fiat currencies such as the dollar, they try to anticipate the future when the dollar starts to weaken. Bitcoin always plays an important role in financial resilience when the economy is turbulent, Investors' trust in Bitcoin will enable them to achieve multiple profits in the future.
If you think investors have done something stupid by investing now, in my opinion, they don't want to make the mistake of not buying Bitcoin when they had the opportunity.

I think today many investors think intelligently about Bitcoin, whatever the price when they buy Bitcoin, because they trust it and already know it after doing research and assessing its footprint. That Bitcoin has the potential to benefit them greatly as a good investment in the long term due to its limited supply, and its decentralized nature, as well as its ever-increasing mainstream acceptance.
And they don't want to miss or lose a second chance to get good things about Bitcoin and they will do it when they have the money and keep it for the long term whatever the price. Because they believe that Bitcoin in the long term will still provide good profits for them even though declines always occur.
And stupidity only lies in those who delay buying Bitcoin, and will regret it when the price has gone up.

[rachael9385]

Are investors investing in Bitcoin at ATH now are fools ?  Is there chance of major correction from here as prices have already peaked now.

First they are not fools because everyone has their own time to do what they like to do, if they can't buy now they can buy tomorrow. Besides not everyone knows the difference between Bitcoin and altcoins/shitcoins and they can't differenciat between Bitcoin and real estate investments if they don't know the meaning of crypto currency. Again, this is just a new ATH there is more to it, so anybody that's buying now should also put in mind that there are more ATH to come. It's only few people that won buy Bitcoin at this current rate because they think that this is all or it's too high for them to buy know. The stage Bitcoin is today, if you don't buy it will continue to increase so the easier you buy the more gains you get.

[kawetsriyanto]

Yes ATH is not permanent it is only a high price till present time so in future bitcoin price may be many times more than that so real holders never think about ATH. The supply of Bitcoin is limited but the demand is unlimited because so far not everyone has started using Bitcoin worldwide yet the price of Bitcoin is high and when Bitcoin starts to be used by most people worldwide then the price of Bitcoin will be higher. So holding only for long term is always a good decision

ATH can be a temporary highest price or permanent high price. For the coins which still have good progress on its price growth, they can have a new ATH someday. But for the coins that are likely stuck, it can be a permanent ATH because the chance for a new ATH to be very small. If you checked some coins on the CMC or CoinGecko, there are few coins that didn't reach new ATHs in the previous bullrun season (2021). However, if it is Bitcoin, I'm very sure that the current ATH is a temporary highest price. In the next halving time, the price of Bitcoin has a big chance to increase drastically. At that time, it is very possible to have a new ATH in BItcoin.

[arjunmujay]

Yes ATH is not permanent it is only a high price till present time so in future bitcoin price may be many times more than that so real holders never think about ATH. The supply of Bitcoin is limited but the demand is unlimited because so far not everyone has started using Bitcoin worldwide yet the price of Bitcoin is high and when Bitcoin starts to be used by most people worldwide then the price of Bitcoin will be higher. So holding only for long term is always a good decision

if we look at the total supply of bitcoin which is only 21,000,000 compared to the world population in 2024 of 8,118,835,999 people^[1]. So if it was owned by everyone in the world, each person could only own 0.00258XXX bitcoin.

that's why bitcoin is very promising for the future, because now it is still very easy to get small amounts of bitcoin. some even have more than 174,530^[2] very easily. forget about the current ATH, because new ATHs will continue to form in the future.

So before Bitcoin is owned by people all over the world, just keep accumulating Bitcoin ownership, at least 1BTC so you can be better than the rest of the population in the future.

[1] World Population History
[2] The World’s Largest Corporate Holders of Bitcoin