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[delfastTions]

Perhaps using a VPN is not a priority in terms of security that casinos use. 
Of course AML type checks have much higher priority. 

From what a perceived, they will consider the two under the same security measures because those that make use of VPN will try to use such as a means to achieve their personal goal at the detriment of the gambling platform and the security alert and measures taken by AML will also include the use of VPN in case of those that will like to play smartness on their network and bye pass away their system on certain restrictions.

In my opinion, VPNs are used much more by ordinary users who are not scammers.  And they use it for various reasons, the main one of which is cross-border options for using access to sites from countries where there are restrictions and prohibitive sanctions. 
But real and advanced scammers on the Internet, on the contrary, go online without a VPN or manage to disguise their VPN so that no one would know that the IP is fake.  This is precisely what removes suspicions of fraud on the part of the casino.  I think this is the case now simply because now AI can easily figure out all the VPN servers and those large businesses (such as banks that support banking applications) have VPN control tools.  And it becomes almost impossible to hide it. 
So technically experienced criminals now have to do without a VPN to disguise themselves.

[joniboini]

Perhaps we need a thread to discuss whether a casino should allow VPNs or not since the thread rarely touches the title or OP's intention of sharing VPN-friendly casinos or good VPNs for online casinos recently. Or OP can change the title to expand the discussion?

I think this is the case now simply because now AI can easily figure out all the VPN servers and those large businesses (such as banks that support banking applications) have VPN control tools.  And it becomes almost impossible to hide it.

Where do you get that info from? I've never heard of advanced filtering tools using AI to detect VPN IPs. Then again it doesn't take a long time to build a script and a filter as long as you have the database of IPs used by VPNs. I'm pretty sure all of them don't matter if you simply visit a VPN-friendly casino though. Maybe if you use cheap/free VPNs so your IP is regularly used by bots that will be a problem. If you buy a good VPN or s dedicated IP the chance should be low (as long as the casino is not planning to screw you themselves). CMIIW.

[delfastTions]

Perhaps we need a thread to discuss whether a casino should allow VPNs or not since the thread rarely touches the title or OP's intention of sharing VPN-friendly casinos or good VPNs for online casinos recently. Or OP can change the title to expand the discussion?

I think this is the case now simply because now AI can easily figure out all the VPN servers and those large businesses (such as banks that support banking applications) have VPN control tools.  And it becomes almost impossible to hide it.

Where do you get that info from? I've never heard of advanced filtering tools using AI to detect VPN IPs. Then again it doesn't take a long time to build a script and a filter as long as you have the database of IPs used by VPNs. I'm pretty sure all of them don't matter if you simply visit a VPN-friendly casino though. Maybe if you use cheap/free VPNs so your IP is regularly used by bots that will be a problem. If you buy a good VPN or s dedicated IP the chance should be low (as long as the casino is not planning to screw you themselves). CMIIW.

If we talk in general about the structure of information exchange on the Internet, then I would divide all Internet Services that work with clients, both paid and free, no matter what, into three large groups: first, these are Services that generally receive and respond to requests from any IP outside  depending on whether it is suspected to be a VPN server.  The second group is those Services that filter requests for those from VPN and direct ones from personal IPs or reliably known IP addresses.  But these Services pass and process requests and at the same time know whether the client is using a VPN.  And the third group of Services simply blocks the exchange of requests via VPN.  This group usually includes serious banking applications where KYC must be automatically completed.  So, most of these Services naturally know VPN servers that are free and paid, and even dynamically appearing and disappearing.  It is for such complex VPN presence identification that AI is used.  Naturally, few users have heard of such traffic filtering methods, since none of the specialists is interested in talking about the specific details of such identifications. 

In my opinion, almost all casinos belong to the second group, since the presence of a VPN gives them another prohibitive argument in the process of paying clients the money they have won. 
And sometimes it even helps not to pay the client winnings and can even save money on this for the casino.

[satscraper]

Can you suggest some crypto casinos that are okay with using VPNs?

It's a plus if they're cool with KYC stuff or even better if they are NO KYC.

Regarding online gambling  my experience is not very abundant, however I have used various  VPN servers located in Europe at login to   Nitrobetting,  ETHplay and Satoshi Hero and they had allowed to do this.  Also I could add that when gambling I prefer VPN servers that allow obfuscate traffic with XOR to masque the use of VPN from my ISP.

All those sites are no KYC, if my memory serves me right.

BTW, Duelbits is also VPN friendly but it may redirect you to the site versions which depends on location of the used VPN server   .  

[dwyane36]

Perhaps we need a thread to discuss whether a casino should allow VPNs or not since the thread rarely touches the title or OP's intention of sharing VPN-friendly casinos or good VPNs for online casinos recently. Or OP can change the title to expand the discussion?

Good VPNs for access to casino sites and any other sites are primarily private VPNs on rented VPS. Meanwhile, using popular VPN services that provide users with free VPN can sometimes be quite risky, as you can get your account blocked. I mean, any casino wouldn't like the fact that some of its users would log in under the same IP address.

[joniboini]

So, most of these Services naturally know VPN servers that are free and paid, and even dynamically appearing and disappearing.  It is for such complex VPN presence identification that AI is used.  

Can you share some articles/news/reports on this, or is this some insider information that is known to select users only? I mean I get the logic of how a company can use AI to filter out people, but I'm wondering if such a thing already happened and how they do it. I can also say my government uses AI to filter out porn by collecting a database of porn websites/casino websites out there, even though the reality is there are no complicated AI tools involved since they use a common network blacklist.

In my opinion, almost all casinos belong to the second group, since the presence of a VPN gives them another prohibitive argument in the process of paying clients the money they have won.  

I believe anyone who visited this thread should probably focus on the small minority since we're looking for a VPN-friendly casino to begin with. If somebody finds issues with those casinos then we can find out if they use VPN as an argument or not, then remove them from the list (if that exists).

[examplens]

Does anyone have any experience with Sportsbet.io and VPN access?

I already have a partner account with them, but for that, you also need a player account. In the meantime, the region where I come from is no longer acceptable at Sportsbet (and several other casinos). Now I don't know if I should continue with the account via VPN or give up everything related to Sportsbet.

[Potato Chips]

Does anyone have any experience with Sportsbet.io and VPN access?

I already have a partner account with them, but for that, you also need a player account. In the meantime, the region where I come from is no longer acceptable at Sportsbet (and several other casinos). Now I don't know if I should continue with the account via VPN or give up everything related to Sportsbet.

My general advise is, if you're from a prohibited region you either have to give up or bear the risk. They typically tell you what happens when you get caught, on their TOS.

This is what's on sportsbet, BTW

3.3 If you are located in or from a Restricted jurisdiction and you open or use the Website: your account may be closed by us immediately; any winnings and rewards will be confiscated and remaining balance returned (subject to reasonable charges), and any returns, winnings or rewards which you have gained or accrued will be forfeited by you and may be reclaimed by us; and you will return to us on demand any such funds which have been withdrawn.

[delfastTions]

So, most of these Services naturally know VPN servers that are free and paid, and even dynamically appearing and disappearing.  It is for such complex VPN presence identification that AI is used.  

Can you share some articles/news/reports on this, or is this some insider information that is known to select users only? I mean I get the logic of how a company can use AI to filter out people, but I'm wondering if such a thing already happened and how they do it. I can also say my government uses AI to filter out porn by collecting a database of porn websites/casino websites out there, even though the reality is there are no complicated AI tools involved since they use a common network blacklist.

In my opinion, almost all casinos belong to the second group, since the presence of a VPN gives them another prohibitive argument in the process of paying clients the money they have won.  

I believe anyone who visited this thread should probably focus on the small minority since we're looking for a VPN-friendly casino to begin with. If somebody finds issues with those casinos then we can find out if they use VPN as an argument or not, then remove them from the list (if that exists).

I myself have not read such articles, but simply heard from technical specialists about various methods of filtering traffic.  And of course, I have no doubt that the methods can be varied, including those that the developers may consider innovative and, therefore, classified.  And of course, in accordance with the fashionable tradition of the present time, AI will definitely be involved here. 

As for information about which casinos make it really difficult for users to play when they use a VPN to access their site  then this is really valuable information for other players.  Therefore, I would like the players who have suffered from such requirements to write here in the topic what happened during contacts with support and in the case when the player is forced to use a VPN.  But as we previously argued, it turned out that, speaking strictly according to the law, in any case, playing in a casino via a VPN is still a violation of the current rules.  It turns out that this is so.     

[examplens]

My general advise is, if you're from a prohibited region you either have to give up or bear the risk. They typically tell you what happens when you get caught, on their TOS.

This is what's on sportsbet, BTW

3.3 If you are located in or from a Restricted jurisdiction and you open or use the Website: your account may be closed by us immediately; any winnings and rewards will be confiscated and remaining balance returned (subject to reasonable charges), and any returns, winnings or rewards which you have gained or accrued will be forfeited by you and may be reclaimed by us; and you will return to us on demand any such funds which have been withdrawn.

Yeah, I'm probably better off staying away from them.
I will ask again through their partner page, but there is probably nothing to do with cooperation with them. 

[freedomgo]

My general advise is, if you're from a prohibited region you either have to give up or bear the risk. They typically tell you what happens when you get caught, on their TOS.

This is what's on sportsbet, BTW

3.3 If you are located in or from a Restricted jurisdiction and you open or use the Website: your account may be closed by us immediately; any winnings and rewards will be confiscated and remaining balance returned (subject to reasonable charges), and any returns, winnings or rewards which you have gained or accrued will be forfeited by you and may be reclaimed by us; and you will return to us on demand any such funds which have been withdrawn.

Yeah, I'm probably better off staying away from them.
I will ask again through their partner page, but there is probably nothing to do with cooperation with them. 

This is quite scary if the casinos would really pursue it, but I doubt they will unless the amount involved is too significant to resist.

Some casinos might even forfeit all your balance, but it's good that Sportsbet's policy states they'll return the money, which I presume is the amount you deposited. But honestly, I'm quite confused. If you have been using a VPN to evade the ban from your country and you keep winning, has it ever happened in a real situation where a casino goes after the gambler to enforce this rule?

and you will return to us on demand any such funds which have been withdrawn.

[EarnOnVictor]

Perhaps we need a thread to discuss whether a casino should allow VPNs or not since the thread rarely touches the title or OP's intention of sharing VPN-friendly casinos or good VPNs for online casinos recently. Or OP can change the title to expand the discussion?

Good VPNs for access to casino sites and any other sites are primarily private VPNs on rented VPS. Meanwhile, using popular VPN services that provide users with free VPN can sometimes be quite risky, as you can get your account blocked. I mean, any casino wouldn't like the fact that some of its users would log in under the same IP address.

You quite make a whole lot of sense, but all the same, the best way to go about this is to avoid using VPN entirely. The gambles who who are not using any VPN are still being alleged of multiple accounts talkless of the person with the VPN. What you said is good and if it is a good VPN that you uniquely paid for the IP with a verifiable location and that no one will use it apart from you, it is fine. But still, in casinos even if you are not discovered as a customer with multiple accounts, they still have their means to try to detect it's a VPN and could be a serious issue.

For me, I would rather like to spend more money on the installation of a very good anti-virus with multiple protection purposes than risk using a VPN with casinos. This is especially risky if they clearly state in their terms and conditions that they forbid it. Is that not looking for trouble? Using my local IP anywhere I go in the world puts my mind at rest, and with anti-virus, I am secured pretty fine, which was what I was looking for with a VPN.

[Potato Chips]

This is quite scary if the casinos would really pursue it, but I doubt they will unless the amount involved is too significant to resist.

There's always a chance gambling platforms could be lenient in some cases. IIRC, I even saw a platform who let a player-- from a prohibited place-- kept his winnings. But if the platform ends up going with their fine print, I don't think communities would back you in order to get your winnings.

I'm not sure if @examplens has any other alternative gambling platforms that allows their place to play on, though. If you're okay with telling us your country, maybe some folks may know a one or two casino/sportsbook @examplens.

Some casinos might even forfeit all your balance, but it's good that Sportsbet's policy states they'll return the money, which I presume is the amount you deposited. But honestly, I'm quite confused. If you have been using a VPN to evade the ban from your country and you keep winning, has it ever happened in a real situation where a casino goes after the gambler to enforce this rule?

and you will return to us on demand any such funds which have been withdrawn.

I'm not familiar TBH.

But if you mean going after them through legal means, I doubt most gambling platforms would risk their resources unless we're talking about life changing amounts.

I think this clause could be of use on cases where the player has withdrawn more than their balance hence it would nullify what the casino owed to the caught player -- their balance. 🤔 Honestly speaking, such players would probably not return lol.

[examplens]

I'm not sure if @examplens has any other alternative gambling platforms that allows their place to play on, though. If you're okay with telling us your country, maybe some folks may know a one or two casino/sportsbook @examplens.

of course, there are a large number of gambling sites which allow users from my region. I have an account on many of them from before and everything still works without problems or the need for a VPN.
That's not a problem, I'm just used to Sportsbet in many ways, so I'm a little bit sad to have to leave them. 

[joniboini]

For me, I would rather like to spend more money on the installation of a very good anti-virus with multiple protection purposes than risk using a VPN with casinos. This is especially risky if they clearly state in their terms and conditions that they forbid it. Is that not looking for trouble? Using my local IP anywhere I go in the world puts my mind at rest, and with anti-virus, I am secured pretty fine, which was what I was looking for with a VPN.

I think the comparison is a bit flawed since the nature of those things is quite different. Not to mention everyone values their money and what things to buy differently. If you use Windows buying anti-virus software is a bit redundant since Windows Defender is quite effective, though discussing this further would probably derail the thread. But I agree that you should not use a VPN if the website states they don't allow it in the first place. I'm pretty sure this is probably my third or fourth time saying the same thing in this thread.

[delfastTions]

For me, I would rather like to spend more money on the installation of a very good anti-virus with multiple protection purposes than risk using a VPN with casinos. This is especially risky if they clearly state in their terms and conditions that they forbid it. Is that not looking for trouble? Using my local IP anywhere I go in the world puts my mind at rest, and with anti-virus, I am secured pretty fine, which was what I was looking for with a VPN.

I think the comparison is a bit flawed since the nature of those things is quite different. Not to mention everyone values their money and what things to buy differently. If you use Windows buying anti-virus software is a bit redundant since Windows Defender is quite effective, though discussing this further would probably derail the thread. But I agree that you should not use a VPN if the website states they don't allow it in the first place. I'm pretty sure this is probably my third or fourth time saying the same thing in this thread.

In general, clients of cryptocurrency casinos may have a huge number of reasons why they are forced to use a VPN.  The reasons may, in a large number of cases, not even be that the person himself, the player, seeks to maintain his confidentiality.  Often, many casino clients simply cannot access the casino website at all without using a VPN for reasons of a general political nature.  At the same time, the player does not even have the goal of keeping his identity a secret.  So it is worth taking into account the interests of such players.  And it would be right for the casino not to be too strict about the use of VPN by players.  As I understand it, most casinos do just that. 
And in any case, a strict ban on the use of VPNs immediately and significantly reduces the number of casino players who decide to restrict entry to their site by prohibiting the use of VPNs.

[EarnOnVictor]

For me, I would rather like to spend more money on the installation of a very good anti-virus with multiple protection purposes than risk using a VPN with casinos. This is especially risky if they clearly state in their terms and conditions that they forbid it. Is that not looking for trouble? Using my local IP anywhere I go in the world puts my mind at rest, and with anti-virus, I am secured pretty fine, which was what I was looking for with a VPN.

I think the comparison is a bit flawed since the nature of those things is quite different. Not to mention everyone values their money and what things to buy differently. If you use Windows buying anti-virus software is a bit redundant since Windows Defender is quite effective, though discussing this further would probably derail the thread. But I agree that you should not use a VPN if the website states they don't allow it in the first place. I'm pretty sure this is probably my third or fourth time saying the same thing in this thread.

It is not flawed my friend but a well-thought-out point. Fine, Windows Defender and others from other operating systems can be viable, but I've seen many flaws when researching them. Needless to say, good anti-virus these days do more than the work of antivirus as the name denotes but also have the function of VPN and many more. Some will be light in such a way that the casino will know it is an antivirus, but will protect your identity which could be the reason why some people are using VPN, even if they do not want to use the VPN for obvious reasons.

Wait a minute, if we are sincere to ourselves, you who are using a VPN to secure your identity with a casino but have registered and completed the KYC with, what are you still securing? In this case, no need to protect who you are from them with a VPN anymore. Thus, the antivirus can do the remaining protection for you if need be to avoid the VPN issue with the casino.

[EarnOnVictor]

For me, I would rather like to spend more money on the installation of a very good anti-virus with multiple protection purposes than risk using a VPN with casinos. This is especially risky if they clearly state in their terms and conditions that they forbid it. Is that not looking for trouble? Using my local IP anywhere I go in the world puts my mind at rest, and with anti-virus, I am secured pretty fine, which was what I was looking for with a VPN.

I think the comparison is a bit flawed since the nature of those things is quite different. Not to mention everyone values their money and what things to buy differently. If you use Windows buying anti-virus software is a bit redundant since Windows Defender is quite effective, though discussing this further would probably derail the thread. But I agree that you should not use a VPN if the website states they don't allow it in the first place. I'm pretty sure this is probably my third or fourth time saying the same thing in this thread.

In general, clients of cryptocurrency casinos may have a huge number of reasons why they are forced to use a VPN.  The reasons may, in a large number of cases, not even be that the person himself, the player, seeks to maintain his confidentiality.  Often, many casino clients simply cannot access the casino website at all without using a VPN for reasons of a general political nature.  At the same time, the player does not even have the goal of keeping his identity a secret.  So it is worth taking into account the interests of such players.  And it would be right for the casino not to be too strict about the use of VPN by players.  As I understand it, most casinos do just that.  
And in any case, a strict ban on the use of VPNs immediately and significantly reduces the number of casino players who decide to restrict entry to their site by prohibiting the use of VPNs.

You have a very good point and if I started stating the reasons why gamblers might need to use VPN, I might still be numbering 7 or so. Can we now say those gamblers with varied reasons why they use it are not for any good but to cheat the casinos? Definitely No. Each case has to be treated differently. What I see here is that most casinos are overbearing about this, the excesses are too much. Some are not even stating it in their terms and conditions but will enforce it nonetheless, these are not just fair.

What I realise is that they've seen it as a means to cheat their customers to make more money unquestioned, so they often use it whether it is done ignorantly by the customer or not, which is bad. This is also happening elsewhere and let me use Binance for an example, initially, if you use a VPN with them, you are free, but now, if you use it, your account could be banned immediately. Why is still so difficult for them if not for using the opportunity to confiscate people's money?

Till today with my traditional forex brokers, they do not care about the use of the VPN, do you know why? They have been in the business for so long and since it was well-planned and strictly regulated, they tread carefully. This is not the same with exchanges and casinos, this is why they are doing as they like. However, as it is now, their customers are just like voiceless people at their mercy, so it is better we avoid the use of VPN and stop claiming fairness with them which will never get us anywhere since they are the Boss, except for a few among them who just have integrity.

[Doan9269]

You have a very good point and if I started stating the reasons why gamblers might need to use VPN, I might still be numbering 7 or so. Can we now say those gamblers with varied reasons why they use it are not for any good but to cheat the casinos? Definitely No.

You're right, its not everyone making the use of VPN that stand the chance of making cheat on the gambling platform, however, we also need to consider one thing that the gambling platforms will always detect for any of these if used don their platform in case of any attempt to bridge on their security, now its something we can assume from the gamblers end that we are not using VPN to cheat but the platform may see such as a threat from us trying to do so, now how to we make the balance or create an establishment on these two facts and be justified.

[delfastTions]

For me, I would rather like to spend more money on the installation of a very good anti-virus with multiple protection purposes than risk using a VPN with casinos. This is especially risky if they clearly state in their terms and conditions that they forbid it. Is that not looking for trouble? Using my local IP anywhere I go in the world puts my mind at rest, and with anti-virus, I am secured pretty fine, which was what I was looking for with a VPN.

I think the comparison is a bit flawed since the nature of those things is quite different. Not to mention everyone values their money and what things to buy differently. If you use Windows buying anti-virus software is a bit redundant since Windows Defender is quite effective, though discussing this further would probably derail the thread. But I agree that you should not use a VPN if the website states they don't allow it in the first place. I'm pretty sure this is probably my third or fourth time saying the same thing in this thread.

In general, clients of cryptocurrency casinos may have a huge number of reasons why they are forced to use a VPN.  The reasons may, in a large number of cases, not even be that the person himself, the player, seeks to maintain his confidentiality.  Often, many casino clients simply cannot access the casino website at all without using a VPN for reasons of a general political nature.  At the same time, the player does not even have the goal of keeping his identity a secret.  So it is worth taking into account the interests of such players.  And it would be right for the casino not to be too strict about the use of VPN by players.  As I understand it, most casinos do just that.  
And in any case, a strict ban on the use of VPNs immediately and significantly reduces the number of casino players who decide to restrict entry to their site by prohibiting the use of VPNs.

You have a very good point and if I started stating the reasons why gamblers might need to use VPN, I might still be numbering 7 or so. Can we now say those gamblers with varied reasons why they use it are not for any good but to cheat the casinos? Definitely No. Each case has to be treated differently. What I see here is that most casinos are overbearing about this, the excesses are too much. Some are not even stating it in their terms and conditions but will enforce it nonetheless, these are not just fair.

What I realise is that they've seen it as a means to cheat their customers to make more money unquestioned, so they often use it whether it is done ignorantly by the customer or not, which is bad. This is also happening elsewhere and let me use Binance for an example, initially, if you use a VPN with them, you are free, but now, if you use it, your account could be banned immediately. Why is still so difficult for them if not for using the opportunity to confiscate people's money?

Till today with my traditional forex brokers, they do not care about the use of the VPN, do you know why? They have been in the business for so long and since it was well-planned and strictly regulated, they tread carefully. This is not the same with exchanges and casinos, this is why they are doing as they like. However, as it is now, their customers are just like voiceless people at their mercy, so it is better we avoid the use of VPN and stop claiming fairness with them which will never get us anywhere since they are the Boss, except for a few among them who just have integrity.

If we reason a little based on the postulates of the general psychology of a person and a gambler as well, of course, then it should be stated that any person has committed some kind of action in relation to other people or to various services, or even to the state as a whole, always wonders:  In this case, should I introduce myself completely, or is it better to remain anonymous. 
And you will be surprised to discover that in many cases a person will choose to remain anonymous.  This desire of his may be caused by fear and modesty and a number of other individual reasons.  And this behavior and personal choice is an integral part of individual freedom.  Thus, if we talk about VPN in a broad sense, it turns out that this is simply the implementation on the Internet of such a basic human need to maintain anonymity and realize one’s own desire to introduce oneself to a person or not. 
And the fact that the option of VPN communications with services is sometimes prohibited by a number of business structures, this, of course, can be considered a violation of human rights in their classical sense.