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January 26, 2025, 08:31:35 PM
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First of all you need to know the difference between trading and investment, investment is when you are accumulating Bitcoin and HODL for long while trading is buying now and see out in a short while so advising some one to go into full time trading in other to secure their future is wrong you will definitely put yourself into more pressure while trading because you will consistently be cheeking to know when there is dip or not in other to sell out.
Accumulating Bitcoin and HODL for long will give you mind rest rather than trading, traders actually make profit while trading But the risk involved is much compare to long time holders so it is better to accumulate Bitcoin and HODL for a longer time instead of fucking around trading bitcoin which is meant to be an investment.
Therefore, instead of wasting time by trading, we focus on investment.
You are very much correct here and I think that you are not the only one that thinks such way, trading is a complete waste of time energy mostly if you knows nothing about the craft, and why it is very dangerous is that you can lose all your hard earned money just in a twinkle of an eye, but with Bitcoin investment reverse is the case, you can make a fortune from it
if you can hold for a very long time,  it doesn't matter if you are a newbie investors of not, once you have the basic knowledge on how to buy and what is required to hold effectively, like having a source of income and an emergency funds to sorts out any emergencies that may arise in the future, you are good to go, so it is very important that we focus more on Bitcoin investment than taking stupid risk trading our hard earned money.

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January 26, 2025, 08:47:23 PM
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A lot have already been said about building a bitcoin portfolio, holding for long and the requirements and process of making it happen, avoiding shitcoins by concentrating mainly on bitcoin and most importantly, avoiding trading that is too risky for people without the requisite knowledge. The question is, are we putting these knowledge to practice? Are we building bitcoin portfolio or we are merely reeling out theories without putting them to practice? Are you able to resist the temptation of spreading money on different shitcoins under the guise of diversification? This is the burning question that occupied my mind, the reason I decided to make this comment so we would be able to do self appraisal and adjust our pattern where necessary.

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January 26, 2025, 09:45:26 PM
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Focus more on what Bitcoin can do for you and think less of what others think about Bitcoin, and please stop calling people fools because anyone is allowed to do whatever they like with their money, maybe they can learn the hard way.

When you plan to invest in shitcoins, it means you are putting your money in a high-risk zone. The chances of loss are much higher here. Chasing the temptation of quick money is not a difficult path, but rather an easy way to lose your own money. It's a place of temptation where the allure of winning will encourage you to lose money. I would advise you to invest in simpler coins like Bitcoin, instead of learning the hard way. DCA (Dollar Cost Averaging) with long-term investment gives you a high potential for profit with lower risks. However, you need to invest not only your money but also your patience here.

Investing in shitcoin is like someone who dreams of getting rich in the near future. Indeed, there are people who have succeeded in getting big profits from small initial capital. It happened not because it was analyzed from the beginning, but because of coincidence. I have no evidence to justify this but it is just my guess.
In general, investing in shitcoin is the same as piling up money without turnover.

Shitcoins are not something one should invest on, shitcoins are scam and should be avoided, I have lost a lot of money in shitcoins and it has frustrated a lot of people, is better you invest in Bitcoin and keep holding.
I have not invested yet but I have learned and understood that Bitcoin is the best investment among all investments. Except Bitcoin, Shitcoin is a very risky investment. I have heard many success stories of those who have invested in Bitcoin. So far, no one has failed by investing in Bitcoin and holding it, everyone has achieved success. However, almost everyone has failed in Shitcoin investment. I have also heard that Shitcoin can die at any time and can destroy people at any time in investment. So buy Bitcoin, hold Bitcoin, and surely you will succeed in investment.
Don't be deceived; those investors who were successful with bitcoin investment didn't just wake up from sleep to achieve success from bitcoin investment; they were patient and held their bitcoin investment for a long time before they were able to succeed in bitcoin investment. If you want to succeed in bitcoin investment when you start investing in bitcoin, you must have a long-term mindset, like 4-10 years or more, before you could stand a chance of getting a good profit from bitcoin investment. If you invest in bitcoin in a way that it will stop you from sorting out your daily expenses, you are likely to fail in bitcoin investment because you will be finding it difficult to sort out your daily expenses, which might get you off the game partially or permanently. But if you want to succeed in bitcoin investment like the ones you heard about, you need a steady source of income and discretionary income that will allow you to invest in bitcoin and still comfortably sort out your daily expenses with ease anytime they arise, which will allow you not to depend on your bitcoin investment to survive.

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January 26, 2025, 10:02:20 PM
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First of all you need to know the difference between trading and investment, investment is when you are accumulating Bitcoin and HODL for long while trading is buying now and see out in a short while so advising some one to go into full time trading in other to secure their future is wrong you will definitely put yourself into more pressure while trading because you will consistently be cheeking to know when there is dip or not in other to sell out.
Accumulating Bitcoin and HODL for long will give you mind rest rather than trading, traders actually make profit while trading But the risk involved is much compare to long time holders so it is better to accumulate Bitcoin and HODL for a longer time instead of fucking around trading bitcoin which is meant to be an investment.
Hey friend, I don't understand what you are trying to understand. From what I understand, you are getting people interested in trading? You don't seem to be able to differentiate between trading and investing. Trading is a learning subject, not a game for beginners, where many experienced people have faced losses. So it is better not to expose our knowledge to such risks.

On the other hand, no one has faced losses due to long-term investment in Bitcoin till date. However, in the beginning, people were confused by seeing such a volatile market and there was a possibility of making mistakes in investment again and again. But since then, right from the time the investment system in the DCA method started. Right from that day, everyone's biggest fear, the volatile market, came into the hands of people. Since then, long-term investment has not faced losses.

Therefore, instead of wasting time by trading, we focus on investment.


In as much as you are making sense, I would also love to tell you that both trading and Bitcoin investment are learning process, if you don't learn the basic part of Bitcoin investment you can not venture into it and one might mistake other shitcoin to Bitcoin just that trading is more complex to learn than Bitcoin investment and the funny part about trading is that you can not learn everything and there is no even 40% guarantee. And secondly, trading is not a game for beginners neither is it a game for people who call themselves traders because they both are prone to loss. Lastly, investing long term doesn't guarantee success, you can encounter challenge or even loss because some investors can misplace there seed phrase, while some can get there wallet hacked so you shouldn't zero your mind while investing, always ensure to secure your seed phrase and wallet in order not to fall victim.











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January 26, 2025, 10:26:35 PM
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.....Accumulating Bitcoin and HODL for long will give you mind rest rather than trading, traders actually make profit while trading But the risk involved is much compare to long time holders so it is better to accumulate Bitcoin and HODL for a longer time instead of fucking around trading bitcoin which is meant to be an investment......

Part of the problem continues to be how "profits" are measured, since it seems quite likely that no trader is going to want to sell at a loss, even though sometimes traders will get out of a position in order to stop further loss from taking place and then to free up their capital to be able to put it into some other place when the current location of the capital seems to be losing.

Another issue is the timeline for measuring the supposed "profits," and so yeah there could be some perversion in regards to showing profits every year, but then surely if we might be looking at how investing into bitcoin had performed over something like 10 years, the trader may well would  not have had records that might have had been detailed enough to show how much money he had been putting into his trading portfolio in order to compare to what the bitcoiner did over that period of time.  Sure it is possible that we could find instances of being able to compare an investor and a trader and potentially showing that they had a very similar budget in terms of new money coming in, such as a bitcoin investor who had $100 per week coming into his investment as compared with a trader who also had $100 per week coming into his trading funds, so then if each of them were to keep their funds somewhat segregated in order to compare them, it seems that it would be pretty rare that an equally capitalized trader would have had been able to come close to the bitcoin investor with the same budget, especially if we are looking at something like a 10 year timeline.

I can say that those who have succeeded have been lucky. Just as in a gambling den, there can be profit or loss in shit coins. Some investors can dream big by investing in those gambling tokens in a short time, but in reality it is completely baseless. In the long run, shitcoins are just trash in the wallet. if Bitcoin is invested as a reliable investment medium not for luck-based investment, then an investor can own a permanent asset in the long run even if he does not get anything in the short term. Personally, I also did not understand shit coins well at the beginning of my investment. I lost my investment due to greed. But when I gained a good knowledge about the market and bitcoin, it started to seem that only Bitcoin is permanent asset in the long run and it is a great asset for people, so I have been holding Bitcoin as much as I can.
It cannot be denied that Bitcoin is the most promising crypto asset and until now there is no other crypto asset that can compete with it. So if you want to look for an investment path that has less risk, but has quite promising potential in the future, then Bitcoin is the answer. But of course not everyone is aware of this potential, even those who do know are quite a few who ignore this potential and prefer to buy shitcoins. But don't be surprised, because that is the nature of humans who cannot control their emotions well. The reason is, people who cannot control their emotions tend to prefer to ignore assets that have great potential such as bitcoin just because they are lazy to wait, but choose shitcoins on the pretext that they can multiply their money quickly.
No, I don't think it's about emotions, because Bitcoin investors have no business being emotional about their holdings, that is for traders, I think it's more of Lack of knowledge or being greedy.

* Lack of knowledge: these are newbies investors that don't has the right knowledge, they don't know that investing in shit coin is suicidal, sometimes they are just misinformed.

As for the greedy ones: those are the ones that knows all that it entails about Bitcoin and shit coin, but they still went ahead to invest in shit coin due to greedy of 10x to 20x, so it's not about emotions that makes investor to invest in shit coin, it's more of greed or lack of knowledge and sometimes inpatient as you have rightfully claimed already.

For sure bitcoin investors may well have periods in which they end up being emotional about their bitcoin, and for sure, they should be attempting to put systems in place so that they can lessen the amount of emotions that they feel, and surely it can take time to build their own systems and to build their own bitcoin portfolio in order so that they are less and less emotional about it.. and even though I agree with you that bitcoin investors should be striving to create systems and practices that facilitate that they are less and less emotional about their bitcoin investment, it seems that it is difficult to completely remove emotion, even from bitcoin investing, and sure you are likely correct that relative to trading, bitcoin investment should end up playing out in practice as way less emotional than trading  .. whether trading bitcoin or getting involved in shitcoins.. which hopefully normie newbies are able to minimize or at least control their exposure to either trading of bitcoin and/or getting involved in shitcoins.. perhaps less than 10% the size of their bitcoin holdings (without cheating).

Focus more on what Bitcoin can do for you and think less of what others think about Bitcoin, and please stop calling people fools because anyone is allowed to do whatever they like with their money, maybe they can learn the hard way.
When you plan to invest in shitcoins, it means you are putting your money in a high-risk zone. The chances of loss are much higher here. Chasing the temptation of quick money is not a difficult path, but rather an easy way to lose your own money. It's a place of temptation where the allure of winning will encourage you to lose money. I would advise you to invest in simpler coins like Bitcoin, instead of learning the hard way. DCA (Dollar Cost Averaging) with long-term investment gives you a high potential for profit with lower risks. However, you need to invest not only your money but also your patience here.
Investing in shitcoin is like someone who dreams of getting rich in the near future. Indeed, there are people who have succeeded in getting big profits from small initial capital. It happened not because it was analyzed from the beginning, but because of coincidence. I have no evidence to justify this but it is just my guess.
In general, investing in shitcoin is the same as piling up money without turnover.
Shitcoins are not something one should invest on, shitcoins are scam and should be avoided, I have lost a lot of money in shitcoins and it has frustrated a lot of people, is better you invest in Bitcoin and keep holding.
I have not invested yet but I have learned and understood that Bitcoin is the best investment among all investments. Except Bitcoin, Shitcoin is a very risky investment. I have heard many success stories of those who have invested in Bitcoin. So far, no one has failed by investing in Bitcoin and holding it, everyone has achieved success. However, almost everyone has failed in Shitcoin investment. I have also heard that Shitcoin can die at any time and can destroy people at any time in investment. So buy Bitcoin, hold Bitcoin, and surely you will succeed in investment.
Why are you being ignorant and adamant to invest in bitcoin with all what you said above. I hope that you don't regret your actions of waiting at the ball park learning about bitcoin without any evidence to show that you believe and have confidence in bitcoin. Investing in bitcoin is not all about theory because there are other factors like emotions during market fluctuation, temptation of profits, patience, discipline and financial management.

Without investing how will you experience all these and advice someone to invest in a long term. It will be good for you to put your shit together and start investing in bitcoin with your discretionary income right away. If you don't have a means of income look for one, if you don't have a discretionary income, cut down your expenses and look for a second means of income. This is why this forum was created to be a gateway for people to invest in bitcoin and build their bitcoin investment for future sake. Don't be a no coiner or a low coiner in future.

As you suggested, a person without experience in actually buying some BTC has close to zero credibility, if not zero credibility, when it comes to attempting to outline and/or explain the various balances of bitcoin investing (or even trading or shitcoining to the extent that any of those experiences might be relevant, too). 

It seems that even guys who have very little money (such as $10 per week) are going to be way more credible in terms of attempting to describe what is happening in bitcoinlandia.. .. even though surely even some guys who are barely getting started in bitcoin, they end up going way beyond their own experiences and starting to talking about managing their BTC or selling it and/or various future trade offs, when it seems that they have to try to work through some of the areas that they know rather than getting into areas that are not even close to their own experiences.

Surely, it does make some sense for some newbies to ask about the next stages, yet sometimes we might see guys with only 1-2 years of experiences proclaiming that their bitcoin experience is the greatest and blah blah blah. and they had not even gotten through a whole cycle to be able to presume that 1 or 2 cycles down the road that they are going to have had survived the whole experience... and surely, I have no problem with guys projecting various scenarios into the future based on their already existing experiences (and to where they had gotten so far), yet surely it becomes problematic if guys presume only one scenario to play out based on their already existent experiences, and sure even though they might have some base case scenarios, since the future has not yet played out then we likely still are going to need to consider various ways that the future might play out.

Another thing is that if a guy has spent about 8 months registered on the forum (like Powerjumboo) and has ONLY theorized about bitcoin without even figuring out how to buy some (even $10 worth), then he seems to be in no position to theorize about anything related to bitcoin beyond his trying to figure out whether to buy or not and various very basic preliminary ideas related to the pre-coiner state of affairs.  Surely any of us could end up getting a bit beyond our own  experiences, and we might even want to propose future scenarios in order to ask questions, but not having had gone through some basic steps of at least setting up a wallet or sourcing funds after 8 months on the forum or something seems to disqualify that member in terms of lacking actions to follow his pie in the sky (detached from reality) words.

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January 27, 2025, 12:11:10 AM
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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.

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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.

After nearly 8 months registered on the forum, you have not even figured out how to buy $10 worth of bitcoin and to make sure that you hold it for 4-10 years or longer?

I would speculate that every once in a while you buy ice cream or you buy beer or you buy cigarettes or candy or massage or a hair cut or some kinds of a goods and/or services that you really don't need to buy, right? 

Once you consume that the good and/or service that you did not need you are never getting the money back that you used to buy that good and/or service, and after 8 months on the forum, you have not figured out how to set aside $10 to buy bitcoin?.. You have not figured out how save up $1.25 per month in order that you can buy $10 worth of corn?  I am having trouble relating to your purported situation and your purported bullish beliefs about bitcoin that you have been posting about for quite a while.

Sure you could potentially buy more than $10 worth of bitcoin over an 8-month period of time, yet sure if you really are struggling with such supposed dire poverty, it is a bit difficult to believe that you post on this here forum on fairly regular basis, yet you still have not figured out how to muster up enough money to buy $10 worth of bitcoin.  Call me a doubter, unless you can attempt to explain better...and sure of course, you can do whatever you want, and no one is forcing you to buy bitcoin, even though I am just asserting that I find your situation outside of my own abilities to believe such a story, without some kind of further explanation regarding your specific situation.. and you surely don't need to provide any kind of OpSec kinds of information in order to describe what your particular financial and/or psychological plight might be that holds you back from buying bitcoin, yet at the same time purporting to recognize, understand and appreciate bitcoin's bullish investment thesis.

Am I a BIG meanie for pursuing such topic?  #askingforafriend

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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.

After nearly 8 months registered on the forum, you have not even figured out how to buy $10 worth of bitcoin and to make sure that you hold it for 4-10 years or longer?

I would speculate that every once in a while you buy ice cream or you buy beer or you buy cigarettes or candy or massage or a hair cut or some kinds of a goods and/or services that you really don't need to buy, right? 

Once you consume that the good and/or service that you did not need you are never getting the money back that you used to buy that good and/or service, and after 8 months on the forum, you have not figured out how to set aside $10 to buy bitcoin?.. You have not figured out how save up $1.25 per month in order that you can buy $10 worth of corn?  I am having trouble relating to your purported situation and your purported bullish beliefs about bitcoin that you have been posting about for quite a while.

Sure you could potentially buy more than $10 worth of bitcoin over an 8-month period of time, yet sure if you really are struggling with such supposed dire poverty, it is a bit difficult to believe that you post on this here forum on fairly regular basis, yet you still have not figured out how to muster up enough money to buy $10 worth of bitcoin.  Call me a doubter, unless you can attempt to explain better...and sure of course, you can do whatever you want, and no one is forcing you to buy bitcoin, even though I am just asserting that I find your situation outside of my own abilities to believe such a story, without some kind of further explanation regarding your specific situation.. and you surely don't need to provide any kind of OpSec kinds of information in order to describe what your particular financial and/or psychological plight might be that holds you back from buying bitcoin, yet at the same time purporting to recognize, understand and appreciate bitcoin's bullish investment thesis.

Am I a BIG meanie for pursuing such topic?  #askingforafriend
You are actually not far from the truth sir, it's very common in our society today for someone to make an excuse why him or her hasn't done something he or she should have done.
Their is a saying in my country that being busy is a myth, no body is too busy for what they really want, people create time for what they want, so as Bitcoin investment or anything he or she wants. If the Will is their, no body that has the will of investing in Bitcoin that wouldn't have bought at least $10 worth of Bitcoin in 8months time, it's unheard of, and if you look at such person they might be spending money on things that aren't necessarily like beer and ice cream just as you have rightfully said, so I also don't believe that his condition is so dire that he can't afford $10 worth of Bitcoin in 8months if he truly has the intention of acquiring it,  because to me effort speaks a lot, and if he had put in an effort to acquire Bitcoin, he would have even acquired more than $10 worth of Bitcoin in 8months as long as he has an income coming in.

 
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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.
After nearly 8 months registered on the forum, you have not even figured out how to buy $10 worth of bitcoin and to make sure that you hold it for 4-10 years or longer?

I would speculate that every once in a while you buy ice cream or you buy beer or you buy cigarettes or candy or massage or a hair cut or some kinds of a goods and/or services that you really don't need to buy, right? 
Once you consume that the good and/or service that you did not need you are never getting the money back that you used to buy that good and/or service, and after 8 months on the forum, you have not figured out how to set aside $10 to buy bitcoin?.. You have not figured out how save up $1.25 per month in order that you can buy $10 worth of corn?  I am having trouble relating to your purported situation and your purported bullish beliefs about bitcoin that you have been posting about for quite a while.

Sure you could potentially buy more than $10 worth of bitcoin over an 8-month period of time, yet sure if you really are struggling with such supposed dire poverty, it is a bit difficult to believe that you post on this here forum on fairly regular basis, yet you still have not figured out how to muster up enough money to buy $10 worth of bitcoin.  Call me a doubter, unless you can attempt to explain better...and sure of course, you can do whatever you want, and no one is forcing you to buy bitcoin, even though I am just asserting that I find your situation outside of my own abilities to believe such a story, without some kind of further explanation regarding your specific situation.. and you surely don't need to provide any kind of OpSec kinds of information in order to describe what your particular financial and/or psychological plight might be that holds you back from buying bitcoin, yet at the same time purporting to recognize, understand and appreciate bitcoin's bullish investment thesis.

Am I a BIG meanie for pursuing such topic?  #askingforafriend
You are actually not far from the truth sir, it's very common in our society today for someone to make an excuse why him or her hasn't done something he or she should have done.
Their is a saying in my country that being busy is a myth, no body is too busy for what they really want, people create time for what they want, so as Bitcoin investment or anything he or she wants.

We can proclaim how you invest into bitcoin is a matter of priorities, and of course, if we don't have money we can invest time and energies into bitcoin, yet if we have invested time and energies into bitcoin, perhaps more than 10 or 20 hours, we likely should start to understand that there is a need to invest monetary value into it too.. and figure out how to do it, even if the amount might be quite small, relatively speaking.  Of course, some newbie normies will need more time to figure out if they are convinced about bitcoin or not, yet Powerjumboo has spent quite a bit of time telling us how bullish he supposedly is about bitcoin, yet still has not even put $10 into it?  Put your money where your mouth is, right?  Even if you don't have very much money.

If the Will is their, no body that has the will of investing in Bitcoin that wouldn't have bought at least $10 worth of Bitcoin in 8months time, it's unheard of, and if you look at such person they might be spending money on things that aren't necessarily like beer and ice cream just as you have rightfully said, so I also don't believe that his condition is so dire that he can't afford $10 worth of Bitcoin in 8months if he truly has the intention of acquiring it,  because to me effort speaks a lot, and if he had put in an effort to acquire Bitcoin, he would have even acquired more than $10 worth of Bitcoin in 8months as long as he has an income coming in.

I agree, and  at the same time, I can see that he might not have had started right away, but there should be some kind of a need to act beyond just posting positively on a forum (like this) about it.  There could be some rare circumstances that Powerjumboo could explain, otherwise, it just seems strange that he is lecturing us about how wonderful bitcoin is yet he has not even bought $10 worth.. .. and yeah maybe we are being too rough on him, yet I think that he needs to explain rather than just brushing it off and continuing to post how wonderful bitcoin is.

Perhaps his goal is to get to a high enough post count, activity and merits in order to be able to join a signature campaign, and surely I have no problem with that idea, and surely I recall a lot of forum members who used to refuse to buy bitcoin and to brag about their never having had ever bought a bitcoin and they got all of their bitcoin for free through signature campaigns and other ways of "earning bitcoin," and surely some of those guys are regretting their level of whimpiness in that they could have had accumulated way more bitcoin if they had been a wee bit more proactive in their accumulation of it.. I would even say so at the time, since sometimes it was quite clear that the person could have been buying bitcoin since they had fiat cashflow, but they were too distracted into believing that they needed to keep their cost per BTC low (or zero, besides their labor or posting on the forum).

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I have not invested yet but I have learned and understood that Bitcoin is the best investment among all investments. Except Bitcoin, Shitcoin is a very risky investment. I have heard many success stories of those who have invested in Bitcoin. So far, no one has failed by investing in Bitcoin and holding it, everyone has achieved success. However, almost everyone has failed in Shitcoin investment. I have also heard that Shitcoin can die at any time and can destroy people at any time in investment. So buy Bitcoin, hold Bitcoin, and surely you will succeed in investment.

Buddy what sense are you trying to make, so after being aware of the numerous good stuffs you mentioned about Bitcoin investment, you've not still invested til this moment, if I may ask, dont you also know that as far as Bitcoin investment is concerned time waits for nobody, mate I will want you to know that you must not have everthing before you can invest in Bitcoin, i know you've heard about DCA method of investing in Bitcoin which allows you to invest with whatever you can lay your hands on consistently qnd maybe increase your DCA later when your income improves.

With what you've outlined so far, I was thinking that you've alreast taken the bold step to do the needful, though I don't know whats hindering you from investing but Buddy you're encouraged to break whatever procrastinatng attitude that have engulfed your mindset so that you can start now.
Your success in Bitcoin investment depends on your ability to see potential in it and embrace the opportunity as fast as possible.
Buddy in as much I love your advise, I will also want you to do more listening and experiment what you have learnt in other to serve as practical example to your fellow newbies and what you're preaching.

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January 27, 2025, 07:37:58 AM
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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.


Your morale and courage are at least strong, but you will definitely be able to invest in Bitcoin. You should create a fund with the extra expenses that will be left after meeting the basic needs of your family, and you should gradually follow the DCA method and invest in Bitcoin. Because investing in the DCA method will definitely help you increase your Bitcoin fund, and will make you more morale-strengthening and you will become confident in your work.
You need more work so that you can earn more and save money and with that money you can invest in Bitcoin. If you are not able to invest in the DCA method on a weekly basis, then you can invest in Bitcoin on a monthly basis, in this you will get enough opportunities and you will also be quite adept at saving money. You can achieve success by using your intelligence and strategy.

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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.

Your morale and courage are at least strong, but you will definitely be able to invest in Bitcoin. You should create a fund with the extra expenses that will be left after meeting the basic needs of your family, and you should gradually follow the DCA method and invest in Bitcoin. Because investing in the DCA method will definitely help you increase your Bitcoin fund, and will make you more morale-strengthening and you will become confident in your work.
You need more work so that you can earn more and save money and with that money you can invest in Bitcoin. If you are not able to invest in the DCA method on a weekly basis, then you can invest in Bitcoin on a monthly basis, in this you will get enough opportunities and you will also be quite adept at saving money. You can achieve success by using your intelligence and strategy.
I think JayJuanGee already answered that fellow in a way that reflects his personality and situation. For the fellow to be a member of this forum for about a year now and not able to spare the least $10 per week or month to invest in Bitcoin, it shows he has no believe in Bitcoin. He practically failed to see the potential in Bitcoin. Fear may be one of the reason or he might have also wandered away chasing quick profits through shitcoins like most of us did in the past.

All he is doing now is regrets and not taking actions. Let him sit on the sideline and continue regretting,  perhaps in 5-10years to come, he will also regret not buying Bitcoin today... and the cycle of regrets will continue for him.

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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.

Anyone who earns, and truly wants to invest in bitcoin won't make excuses. There are strategies in Bitcoin investment that make it easy for anyone to invest, no matter how little they can afford. Its all about determination and taking steps towards your financial goals.

If your earnings is not enough, atleast there are things we buy or expenses we make most times that are unnecessary, its important to start budgeting your expenses look at areas where you buy things which are not essential and save, even if its little by little at a time it will add up over time. You can also consider engaging in other side hustles to increase your income. This way, you can start investing little by little.
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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.

Anyone who earns, and truly wants to invest in bitcoin won't make excuses. There are strategies in Bitcoin investment that make it easy for anyone to invest, no matter how little they can afford. Its all about determination and taking steps towards your financial goals.

If your earnings is not enough, atleast there are things we buy or expenses we make most times that are unnecessary, its important to start budgeting your expenses look at areas where you buy things which are not essential and save, even if its little by little at a time it will add up over time. You can also consider engaging in other side hustles to increase your income. This way, you can start investing little by little.

If they have many excuse for deciding to buy Bitcoin well that indicate that they are not ready yet or maybe they have this mindset that its better to wait for the dip before they accumulate. That mindset is wrong since as many times this situation has been tackled in this thread it will just cost them delay and maybe they won't think about acquiring if they are been scared of the market bearish condition.

That's why if they have funds and capable to buy then they should do it now. Delaying everything will not give them any benefits since if they decide to acquire now provably they would be more focus to accumulate more and will be busy to add more Bitcoin in their portfolio. If they have concerns like their earnings might not enough to sustain those important matters maybe they just need to have proper financial plans so that they can separate those things needed and also funds to use for investment.

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I can say that those who have succeeded have been lucky. Just as in a gambling den, there can be profit or loss in shit coins. Some investors can dream big by investing in those gambling tokens in a short time, but in reality it is completely baseless. In the long run, shitcoins are just trash in the wallet. if Bitcoin is invested as a reliable investment medium not for luck-based investment, then an investor can own a permanent asset in the long run even if he does not get anything in the short term. Personally, I also did not understand shit coins well at the beginning of my investment. I lost my investment due to greed. But when I gained a good knowledge about the market and bitcoin, it started to seem that only Bitcoin is permanent asset in the long run and it is a great asset for people, so I have been holding Bitcoin as much as I can.
It cannot be denied that Bitcoin is the most promising crypto asset and until now there is no other crypto asset that can compete with it. So if you want to look for an investment path that has less risk, but has quite promising potential in the future, then Bitcoin is the answer. But of course not everyone is aware of this potential, even those who do know are quite a few who ignore this potential and prefer to buy shitcoins. But don't be surprised, because that is the nature of humans who cannot control their emotions well. The reason is, people who cannot control their emotions tend to prefer to ignore assets that have great potential such as bitcoin just because they are lazy to wait, but choose shitcoins on the pretext that they can multiply their money quickly.

No, I don't think it's about emotions, because Bitcoin investors have no business being emotional about their holdings, that is for traders, I think it's more of Lack of knowledge or being greedy.

* Lack of knowledge: these are newbies investors that don't has the right knowledge, they don't know that investing in shit coin is suicidal, sometimes they are just misinformed.

As for the greedy ones: those are the ones that knows all that it entails about Bitcoin and shit coin, but they still went ahead to invest in shit coin due to greedy of 10x to 20x, so it's not about emotions that makes investor to invest in shit coin, it's more of greed or lack of knowledge and sometimes inpatient as you have rightfully claimed already.
It seems you forgot one thing, greed is part of negative emotions. Apart from that, the point I convey also leads to greed, because if you look closely at the words you have printed in bold. I say bitcoin investors sometimes can't wait and prefer to invest in shitcoins. If this is interpreted in detail, greed is what makes people impatient to wait a long time when investing in bitcoin. That's why people choose to invest in shitcoins, because people think that shitcoins can double their money quickly. So if you say that emotions have nothing to do with this, I think that assumption could be said to be inaccurate. Because I think emotions play an important role in any decision in our life, including when we invest in an asset. But I also agree with your assumption, that lack of knowledge is also one aspect of why someone buys shitcoins. But in my opinion, someone who is lost and chooses to buy shitcoin is mostly because of his emotions. Because with uncontrolled emotions, people who already have experience and knowledge about investing in crypto can fall into the abyss of loss.

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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.

Anyone who earns, and truly wants to invest in bitcoin won't make excuses. There are strategies in Bitcoin investment that make it easy for anyone to invest, no matter how little they can afford. Its all about determination and taking steps towards your financial goals.

If your earnings is not enough, atleast there are things we buy or expenses we make most times that are unnecessary, its important to start budgeting your expenses look at areas where you buy things which are not essential and save, even if its little by little at a time it will add up over time. You can also consider engaging in other side hustles to increase your income. This way, you can start investing little by little.

If your earning is not enough for you to start a Bitcoin investment and you really want to start Bitcoin investment look for a side hustle no matter how the earning is you just do it then use the money you are gaining from the side hustle to accumulate, I will not advise anyone who his or her income is not enough to go into Bitcoin investment with same income, when I mean not enough I mean he or she don't have any discretionary income lift after settling the house expenses and bills, there are some jobs that the payment is very little that it can't even take care of your bills for the week or month you are being paid in this kind of situation you can't invest in Bitcoin if you most do you need to have a side hustle which will help you generate money.

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Anyone who earns, and truly wants to invest in bitcoin won't make excuses. There are strategies in Bitcoin investment that make it easy for anyone to invest, no matter how little they can afford. Its all about determination and taking steps towards your financial goals.
If your earnings is not enough, atleast there are things we buy or expenses we make most times that are unnecessary, its important to start budgeting your expenses look at areas where you buy things which are not essential and save, even if its little by little at a time it will add up over time. You can also consider engaging in other side hustles to increase your income. This way, you can start investing little by little.
I think that instead of reducing your expenses for investing in Bitcoin, you should focus on increasing your income. To start investing, you need to make sure that you have a prudent source of income. Are you able to meet your daily needs with your income source? Keep in mind that there is no shortage of daily needs for investment. Be it in the field of entertainment or furniture. If you call these unnecessary and exclude them from the list of daily needs. If your income source is unable to meet all your needs, then you should look for an alternative source of income. Yes, you can reduce some expenses that are hurting you or unnecessary money beyond your needs. However, depending on this money, it may not be the right step to start investing.

The main basis of investment is the source of income. If you are not prudent with your income, then you need to look for alternative sources of income. If your income source is shaky or weak, then your investment will be at risk in the long run. You certainly don't want your investment to be at risk or subject to unexpected sales. So, planning to invest with any kind of gap in demand may not be the right plan. You need to have a strong plan for your investment, especially with regard to your income sources.

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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.
After nearly 8 months registered on the forum, you have not even figured out how to buy $10 worth of bitcoin and to make sure that you hold it for 4-10 years or longer?

I would speculate that every once in a while you buy ice cream or you buy beer or you buy cigarettes or candy or massage or a hair cut or some kinds of a goods and/or services that you really don't need to buy, right? 
Once you consume that the good and/or service that you did not need you are never getting the money back that you used to buy that good and/or service, and after 8 months on the forum, you have not figured out how to set aside $10 to buy bitcoin?.. You have not figured out how save up $1.25 per month in order that you can buy $10 worth of corn?  I am having trouble relating to your purported situation and your purported bullish beliefs about bitcoin that you have been posting about for quite a while.

Sure you could potentially buy more than $10 worth of bitcoin over an 8-month period of time, yet sure if you really are struggling with such supposed dire poverty, it is a bit difficult to believe that you post on this here forum on fairly regular basis, yet you still have not figured out how to muster up enough money to buy $10 worth of bitcoin.  Call me a doubter, unless you can attempt to explain better...and sure of course, you can do whatever you want, and no one is forcing you to buy bitcoin, even though I am just asserting that I find your situation outside of my own abilities to believe such a story, without some kind of further explanation regarding your specific situation.. and you surely don't need to provide any kind of OpSec kinds of information in order to describe what your particular financial and/or psychological plight might be that holds you back from buying bitcoin, yet at the same time purporting to recognize, understand and appreciate bitcoin's bullish investment thesis.

Am I a BIG meanie for pursuing such topic?  #askingforafriend
You are actually not far from the truth sir, it's very common in our society today for someone to make an excuse why him or her hasn't done something he or she should have done.
Their is a saying in my country that being busy is a myth, no body is too busy for what they really want, people create time for what they want, so as Bitcoin investment or anything he or she wants.

We can proclaim how you invest into bitcoin is a matter of priorities, and of course, if we don't have money we can invest time and energies into bitcoin, yet if we have invested time and energies into bitcoin, perhaps more than 10 or 20 hours, we likely should start to understand that there is a need to invest monetary value into it too.. and figure out how to do it, even if the amount might be quite small, relatively speaking.  Of course, some newbie normies will need more time to figure out if they are convinced about bitcoin or not, yet Powerjumboo has spent quite a bit of time telling us how bullish he supposedly is about bitcoin, yet still has not even put $10 into it?  Put your money where your mouth is, right?  Even if you don't have very much money.

If the Will is their, no body that has the will of investing in Bitcoin that wouldn't have bought at least $10 worth of Bitcoin in 8months time, it's unheard of, and if you look at such person they might be spending money on things that aren't necessarily like beer and ice cream just as you have rightfully said, so I also don't believe that his condition is so dire that he can't afford $10 worth of Bitcoin in 8months if he truly has the intention of acquiring it,  because to me effort speaks a lot, and if he had put in an effort to acquire Bitcoin, he would have even acquired more than $10 worth of Bitcoin in 8months as long as he has an income coming in.

I agree, and  at the same time, I can see that he might not have had started right away, but there should be some kind of a need to act beyond just posting positively on a forum (like this) about it.  There could be some rare circumstances that Powerjumboo could explain, otherwise, it just seems strange that he is lecturing us about how wonderful bitcoin is yet he has not even bought $10 worth.. .. and yeah maybe we are being too rough on him, yet I think that he needs to explain rather than just brushing it off and continuing to post how wonderful bitcoin is.

Perhaps his goal is to get to a high enough post count, activity and merits in order to be able to join a signature campaign, and surely I have no problem with that idea, and surely I recall a lot of forum members who used to refuse to buy bitcoin and to brag about their never having had ever bought a bitcoin and they got all of their bitcoin for free through signature campaigns and other ways of "earning bitcoin," and surely some of those guys are regretting their level of whimpiness in that they could have had accumulated way more bitcoin if they had been a wee bit more proactive in their accumulation of it.. I would even say so at the time, since sometimes it was quite clear that the person could have been buying bitcoin since they had fiat cashflow, but they were too distracted into believing that they needed to keep their cost per BTC low (or zero, besides their labor or posting on the forum).
Not investing in bitcoin even after having the knowledge is sometimes demoralising after realising that the price has left where you met it. Procrastination is a thief of time and works perfectly well in the midst of excuses.

I have always known about bitcoin for long now but didn't know how it worked neither did I get interested in knowing how it works. I got keenly interested in bitcoin in investment last year June when bitcoin was less than 63k when a friend tutored me on how it works. I became excited and wanted to try. But learning the knowledge of bitcoin from a trader is a very big setback on long term investment. I only learned that you can buy and after a while when the price changes to something above your cost price you could sell.

Everything was right but I didn't get to learn that there was more to bitcoin than trading. I sold of the little I had immediately bitcoin rose to above 70k and became skeptical about buying again. Within few months bitcoin crossed the 100k ATH and that was when I realised I learned the wrong way.

Buying bitcoin is not really an issue, but being disciplined not to sell it off in a little provocation. Now, we buy and buy more because I have come to realise that bitcoin is closely a one way project, always on the rise. Learning about bitcoin from a trader is one of the worst hurdle anyone can have in the area of bitcoin investment.

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You are retarded if you are posting a bunch of pro-bitcoin posts, but still you have not yet started buying bitcoin. You have also been registered on the forum since May 2024, which provides further evidence of your level of dumb for not buying any bitcoin.  
I regret not being able to buy Bitcoin but I can manage my household expenses with what I earn but I don't have the money to save and buy Bitcoin. Ever since I got into Bitcoin, I had the perfect time to buy Bitcoin but I always regret not being able to buy Bitcoin because I didn't have the money. I am not disabled poverty has disabled me. I have started to slowly climb up the ladder with my hard work. I have a strong belief in my heart that one day I will make a success by investing in Bitcoin.

Anyone who earns, and truly wants to invest in bitcoin won't make excuses. There are strategies in Bitcoin investment that make it easy for anyone to invest, no matter how little they can afford. Its all about determination and taking steps towards your financial goals.

If your earnings is not enough, atleast there are things we buy or expenses we make most times that are unnecessary, its important to start budgeting your expenses look at areas where you buy things which are not essential and save, even if its little by little at a time it will add up over time. You can also consider engaging in other side hustles to increase your income. This way, you can start investing little by little.

If your earning is not enough for you to start a Bitcoin investment and you really want to start Bitcoin investment look for a side hustle no matter how the earning is you just do it then use the money you are gaining from the side hustle to accumulate, I will not advise anyone who his or her income is not enough to go into Bitcoin investment with same income, when I mean not enough I mean he or she don't have any discretionary income lift after settling the house expenses and bills, there are some jobs that the payment is very little that it can't even take care of your bills for the week or month you are being paid in this kind of situation you can't invest in Bitcoin if you most do you need to have a side hustle which will help you generate money.

Perhaps if one truly desires to invest in bitcoin and they found themselves in such a situation where income does not balance with their desire then cutting down some expensive might grant them the opportunity to invest the minimum they have.

If you send so much on self care, family care or other things like taking two bottles of drink, you can possibly take one and hence apply such measures to every expenses and you might be able to come up with a bear minimum.

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I can say that those who have succeeded have been lucky.

Approximately they are indeed lucky. The rest is not there. There is just waiting for losses.


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Shitcoins are not something one should invest on, shitcoins are scam and should be avoided, I have lost a lot of money in shitcoins and it has frustrated a lot of people, is better you invest in Bitcoin and keep holding.

Good. If you please, help also convey to your friends if you think it needs to be conveyed about Shitcoin. If not necessary, don't.

Regarding Bitcoin investment, don't learn the good side alone, but the risk side is also considered important to know. For me, now really needs people who are willing to deliver about Bitcoin related to their strengths and weaknesses because many beginners in the world of digital currencies misunderstand the intent of investment in crypto.

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