Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?

[boyptc]

If you're buying only $2 worth of bitcoin per week, realistically, it only means that you're going to accumulate less than $400 worth of bitcoin per year and even in five years time, the amount of bitcoin you would have accumulated would be too little to place you at a good profit as bitcoin price grows.

While that's some truth there but this is still better than the majority of those people that only watches the price of Bitcoin and are all just in their mouths talking about they should buy soon.

Consistency is the key into profiting and if someone who's able to invest $2 only per week. It's better to keep that and do a lumpsum maybe every 2 months because if it's done per week, the fees might flatten and lessen the value of that amount.

Bitcoin generally favours those that have more capital so in addition to having a right investment plan, it's also necessary to work on having a good amount you're hoping to use in your investment.

Like increasing a dollar or two if it's possible. But as long as he's consistent doing it, he's still better than the rest that don't take action.

[Lidger]

Even though the price of Bitcoin has decreased in the middle, it is now more valuable than before. Those who were holding Bitcoin a few days ago were disappointed, those who could not invest or take advantage of the opportunity during the decreasing market price of Bitcoin have nothing to do but regret. However, the high market price does not mean that you cannot start investing. If you buy Bitcoin at the current 108k original price and start investing and hold it for a long time, you may not have to regret it anymore.

The market is right for investment at any time. Because if you are a Bitcoin holder, do not hesitate to invest in Bitcoin under any circumstances. Just like an entrepreneur does not succeed until he takes the initiative.

The market changes every moment and if this market change did not happen, investors would not have invested so much money in Bitcoin. The Bitcoin market was not in a very good phase from the beginning to the middle of last year, but in a few months, the Bitcoin market almost doubled, which is why many investors started thinking differently about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is undoubtedly a popular digital currency and gradually its popularity and price have increased, so considering the past, we can imagine that in the next five years, the popularity of Bitcoin will increase a lot, as well as we will see many changes in its price.

[Tonimez]

Even though the price of Bitcoin has decreased in the middle, it is now more valuable than before. Those who were holding Bitcoin a few days ago were disappointed, those who could not invest or take advantage of the opportunity during the decreasing market price of Bitcoin have nothing to do but regret. However, the high market price does not mean that you cannot start investing. If you buy Bitcoin at the current 108k original price and start investing and hold it for a long time, you may not have to regret it anymore.

The market is right for investment at any time. Because if you are a Bitcoin holder, do not hesitate to invest in Bitcoin under any circumstances. Just like an entrepreneur does not succeed until he takes the initiative.

The market changes every moment and if this market change did not happen, investors would not have invested so much money in Bitcoin. The Bitcoin market was not in a very good phase from the beginning to the middle of last year, but in a few months, the Bitcoin market almost doubled, which is why many investors started thinking differently about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is undoubtedly a popular digital currency and gradually its popularity and price have increased, so considering the past, we can imagine that in the next five years, the popularity of Bitcoin will increase a lot, as well as we will see many changes in its price.

Bitcoin price is closely directly proportional with TIME and this understanding is the reason behind advocating for a continuous buys and not sells. Bitcoin gains popularity every day and finds it's way into every aspect of economy. Talking about 5 years from now could be very exaggerating based on what we see today in bitcoin market. Altcoins could tend to perform within its first days or years of lunching, but not any other coin could do what bitcoin have done. Don't just aim at 5 years before selling, aim at complete active days investment. Value your bitcoin more than every other assets due to its potential to stand the taste of time.

[tiCeR]

Even though folks can invest whatever they are able to invest, yet I also agree that there should be efforts to bring the amounts and the frequencies of buying up, and I tend to never refer to ideas of investing less than $10 per week, even though surely some guys might be in a position in which they are not able to invest more than $10 per week into bitcoin.

Lower limits make no sense if you stick to it as a set in stone rule, but I think the issue is that there are not very good opportunities to invest amounts that are as low as $10. You would want a reputable exchange with as low as withdrawal fees as possible. The problem is the management of those low amounts taking into account network fees. If someone invests like $5 per week and then has 4 withdrawals a month and 4 inputs, it is not the best strategy to go about investing.

There is a spot when saving for a month gives you less frequent exposure, but saves on fees and risk. Sometimes you got withdrawal minimums as well, which means you would have to find an exchange that has no minimums, very low withdrawal fees and then you would still have a lot of inputs if done on a weekly basis.

If somebody says that they fear not being able to manage saving for a month and then rather do a $20 or $40 investment instead of smaller amounts weekly, well then bitcoin is a tough investment anyway and it does require patience and consistency an definitely the ability to resist volatility and early sales.

The issue is the whole process. I think finding a place to buy bitcoin is possible, but that is not the last step if they want to get their investment right. You will want control over it and this is where it becomes complicated with very small amounts.

[laijsica]

Even though the price of Bitcoin has decreased in the middle, it is now more valuable than before. Those who were holding Bitcoin a few days ago were disappointed, those who could not invest or take advantage of the opportunity during the decreasing market price of Bitcoin have nothing to do but regret. However, the high market price does not mean that you cannot start investing. If you buy Bitcoin at the current 108k original price and start investing and hold it for a long time, you may not have to regret it anymore.

The market is right for investment at any time. Because if you are a Bitcoin holder, do not hesitate to invest in Bitcoin under any circumstances. Just like an entrepreneur does not succeed until he takes the initiative.

The market changes every moment and if this market change did not happen, investors would not have invested so much money in Bitcoin. The Bitcoin market was not in a very good phase from the beginning to the middle of last year, but in a few months, the Bitcoin market almost doubled, which is why many investors started thinking differently about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is undoubtedly a popular digital currency and gradually its popularity and price have increased, so considering the past, we can imagine that in the next five years, the popularity of Bitcoin will increase a lot, as well as we will see many changes in its price.

You are right, if we consider the next five years, the price of Bitcoin is likely to increase several times more because the demand for Bitcoin buying will increase at the individual level. Even if the states, starting from the institutional level, start holding strategic Bitcoin reserves, then the price situation may be beyond our imagination. In my opinion, the changing situation and volatility of the Bitcoin market make investors more tempted to invest and accumulate in the DCA method. Past analysis of Bitcoin price makes an optimistic view and recommends preparing the necessary tools for holding security. The necessary tools for long-term Bitcoin accumulation are strengthening the source of income and backup funds.

[JayJuanGee]

In my own opinion, it should be done at the earliest opportunity, but the major problem here is the amount involved, because $10 is too small to be doing that weekly because the fees alone will be reducing the fraction of the Satoshi bought.
So on that note, due to the amount involved, I think that the logical thing to do is to do it in his second acquisition, which is $20, wish might cost him only $0.50 in fees.

Since those acquisition will come from exchange it will be very high in network fees because exchange cannot give you $0.5 to withdraw $20 and this is also applicable to all the units you might want to withdraw from Bitcoin to your personal holding wallet. However this two times acquisition before withdrawals could have been better for someone who is investing high because when is deducted you will still have your main capital almost 100 percent complete because if for instance they have a network fee of $8 and an investor invested $2k, after the fee they will still have $1,992 but the person with $20 will be left with $12, so this is something that should be calculated and no how many times it should be withdrawn.

You are saying it very well. That means as it happens in our banking transactions. For example, let's say 1 dollar, 100 taka. In the case of bank transactions, if someone withdraws 1 dollar, then the minimum online fee is .23 cents. And if someone withdraws a maximum of 5000 dollars, then the minimum online fee is like .58 cents. And for unlimited transactions, the online fee can probably start from 1 dollar and go up to unlimited online fees.

And in the case of Bitcoin, we can see that since the network fee will be deducted at 8 dollars, then I think if someone keeps 10000 dollars in his Bitcoin wallet, he has the advantage of enjoying 100% profit. So let's invest in Bitcoin instead of keeping our money in the bank and make ourselves financially independent by preventing wastage of money.

You are still talking about the wrong point, since there is more than just fees to go back and forth to exchanges, and the question remains if a guy has 50 withdrawals of $10 to $20 each, then there are going to be 50 UTXOs in the guy's wallet, versus if the guy withdraws one time of $500 to $1k, then there would be 1 UTXO in the wallet.

The guy spending the 1 UTXO will have $492 or perhaps $992... .. yet the guy having 50 UTXOs would have to deduct 50*$8 ($400), which would be leave $100 in the case of a balance of $500 and would leave $600 in the case of a balance of $1k.  Surely UTXO management is the more relevant concern when guys are seeming to presume cases in which UTXOs are automatically consolidated inthe case of private wallet management, when they are not, even if the balance might show up as one amount.

[edited out]

That's what makes you to be different from other guys, you may be thinking that $2 is nothing" but in the view of other people is such a huge amount of money, and one thing you should consider is the rate of our local currencies when you convert it to USD, for me I don't think if there's anything wrong if one choose to put $2 into bitcoin weekly or monthly, consistency is what matters the most. I would encourage them to do that instead of them to remain no coiners in the rest of thier lives, take for instance if they are putting $2 of their discretionary income into bitcoin every week they're getting not less than ($106 or even more a year) if that does not make any sense to you, then what will you say to those guys that does not have a single stash of bitcoin in thier portfolio? you May be thinking that what they're doing is child's play but before you will realize what they're doing they most have accumulated a reasonable amount of bitcoin in their portfolio. Sometimes they may choose to invest in bitcoin not because thier friends are into bitcoin investment but is because of the good potential of bitcoin which is why most guys will just look for a way to put a little portion of thier discretionary income into bitcoin they might choose to do it weekly or monthly as the case may be.

Sure, any small amount can end up adding up to a lot of money, but it seems to be a waste of time to be focusing on such small amounts for our base case examples. Sure some guys are going to have to round down their numbers to deal with their own finances, yet practically, I see no reason to be giving examples of $2 per month or $2 per week, even if some guys might ONLY be able to do that amount. You can do what you want and present numbers however you like, but it seems better to be attempting to deal with at least $10 per week as our cases on the lower end of the investment range... for our examples...

and yeah, of course, some guys are going to have to adjust the numbers to their level in the cases that they are not able to invest $10 per week.. but we should be trying to keep our numbers somewhat realistic... including even a guy who is investing $10 per week, he may well be in a better situation to wait a couple months or even a year or more before moving his funds to a private wallet, for the sake of UTXO management.. Of course, newer investors might want to establish their private wallet earlier, just to get used to setting up learning about and maintaining a private wallet, yet they do not necessarily need to do set up a private wallet for several months or even up to a year or so in cases that they are ONLY buying $10 per week.

Even though folks can invest whatever they are able to invest, yet I also agree that there should be efforts to bring the amounts and the frequencies of buying up, and I tend to never refer to ideas of investing less than $10 per week, even though surely some guys might be in a position in which they are not able to invest more than $10 per week into bitcoin.

Lower limits make no sense if you stick to it as a set in stone rule, but I think the issue is that there are not very good opportunities to invest amounts that are as low as $10. You would want a reputable exchange with as low as withdrawal fees as possible. The problem is the management of those low amounts taking into account network fees. If someone invests like $5 per week and then has 4 withdrawals a month and 4 inputs, it is not the best strategy to go about investing.

For sure one thing is managing buys in the event that exchanges (or whatever services that guys use) allow for the buying of low amounts that are less than $10, and another thing is managing the withdrawals, and then even another thing is managing the UTXOs that can be thought of as connected to the withdrawals or subsequently how you might treat your UTXOs once you have made them on your private wallet.  

Based on UTXO management ideas, I will call anyone retarded who are routinely withdrawing amounts less than $50 from an exchange, even if they might have low withdrawal fees at the time of their withdrawals, since having a bunch of small UTXOs that are $50 or less will have potential for future problems and/or perhaps loss of options and financial costs..

I tend to recommend withdrawing amounts of $200 to $500 and above, even though sure from time to time there might be needs to withdraw lower amounts, yet if there are any transactions in which guys are paying people outside of those who might have similar exchange accounts, those direct peer to peer transactions should be done on bitcoin or maybe on lightning network, unless the service is specifically made for making payments, then the fees for making payments should be looked at if that's how it is being used... Surely there are people who pay small amounts using their exchange accounts, which is not really very practical, and exchanges do create wallets so that they are kind of an intermediary kind of wallet that is not as good as an open source wallet that does not necessarily have the ability to spy on transactions, to block them and/or to steal wallet contents.

There is a spot when saving for a month gives you less frequent exposure, but saves on fees and risk. Sometimes you got withdrawal minimums as well, which means you would have to find an exchange that has no minimums, very low withdrawal fees and then you would still have a lot of inputs if done on a weekly basis.

I don't like the idea of withdrawing funds from exchanges every week unless the amounts are $200 to $500 or more, and probably the higher amount would be preferred, especially if the withdrawals are going to be every week.

If a guy has $10k to $20k or more in bitcoin that is held outside of exchanges, then maybe he can even afford for the exchange amounts to get up to $1k or more before he processes any withdrawals (which would be 5% to 10% or less of the BTC balance amount).

If somebody says that they fear not being able to manage saving for a month and then rather do a $20 or $40 investment instead of smaller amounts weekly, well then bitcoin is a tough investment anyway and it does require patience and consistency an definitely the ability to resist volatility and early sales.

The issue is the whole process. I think finding a place to buy bitcoin is possible, but that is not the last step if they want to get their investment right. You will want control over it and this is where it becomes complicated with very small amounts.

A few years ago (in mid 2021), I had recommended that a fairly well high educated and professional person in real life with an income that was likely more than $100k per year (and the person had a house and some other investments like a 401k and of course auto ownership and a few other modern day niceties) buy $100 of bitcoin per week, and then maybe after 6 months to a year when the amount that was invested into bitcoin got to be $3k to $5k, then the person consider buying a private hardware wallet and transferring over to the hardware wallet.  Of course, a presumption was that the person would continue to learn whatever was needed to know, including learning about hardware wallets, and I recommended investing 4-10 years or more with that method and then for the person to reassess the situation from time to time... so then maybe after no less than 4 years, the person might consider whether or not to start withdrawing bitcoin, since the person would likely be in a retirement stage at that point... but might not need to start to withdraw from bitcoin until perhaps 10 years or more, since a presumption would be that the bitcoin would be the last thing to sell in reference to other investments that the person might have at time of retirement.

The person did end up somewhat following my advice to get started and bought around $50 per week of bitcoin and for about a year and half.. perhaps a bit longer than that, and then ended up selling most if not all of the stash at close to break even amounts... and there were some other mistakes that were made within that process too.  I was mostly upset of effort the person seemed to make in regards to self-teaching about their investment, since surely I understand that mistakes can be made along the way, yet each of us should be striving to protect ourselves from our mistakes.

If that person had listened to me then the invested amount by now would be right around $21k and also around 0.6 BTC accumulated... which surely would be a good place to be, especially given the proposed invested amount and the likelihood for the person to handle the matter, yet likely a need to learn about employing strong cashflow management practices.  A lot of people are challenged with strong cashflow management practices, which they should be able to learn along the way since a lot of cashflow management do not take high level skills, but instead practice.  The same is true when it comes to bitcoin and/or UTXO management.  For any adults who chooses to get involved in bitcoin, there needs to be some self-responsibility and desires to learn about managing keys.

[ejikeme24]

Sure, any small amount can end up adding up to a lot of money, but it seems to be a waste of time to be focusing on such small amounts for our base case examples .Sure some guys are going to have to round down their numbers to deal with their own finances, yet practically, I see no reason to be giving examples of $2 per month or $2 per week, even if some guys might ONLY be able to do that amount. You can do what you want and present numbers however you like, but it seems better to be attempting to deal with at least $10 per week as our cases on the lower end of the investment range... for our examples...

 though I could imagine how long it will take before they can be able to accumulate half of the value of bitcoin or getting to the status of overaccumulation this will take (probably 50 to hundred years if I'm not mistaken) And majority of this guys can give up along the line probably due to old age or the unknown death" and I'm about to agree with you on the fact that investing with $2 seems to be a waste of time because after all the time they have wasted so far  and it happens that they couldn't get to the status of overaccumulation, in this case it becomes a waste of time, Now I know that is good to run a race that we know we can easily win.

[Derekfunds]

Did you see the main title made by the OP above "Buy Buy Buy or Sell Sell Sell?" well, I took the end..because of what. there are quite a lot of speculators who always suppress the price, just look tonight a little bit of Jerome Powell talking about interest rates being lowered or maintained the market immediately reacted. We are not all rich people here.

I acknowledge we all in this forum may not be all that rich but we can all be good investors if we decides to follow the right path with bitcoin investment by accumulating more than always wanting to sell for some small profit made or fear of losing because of a market news that is causing panic. You don't build a portfolio to sell overnight for some chep profit except you're a trader. Long term bitcoin investors don't care about current news be it dip or rising price they continue with their accumulation by buying be it in a dip or high because the plan is long term where the massive profit lies.

As a long term holder despite the market conditions, whether the price is on down trend Aslong you haven’t sell your holding you haven’t loss a thing rather it will only give you opportunity to buy more rather than to panic and finding ways to sell at loss just buy the dip and hodl .

Much of what I pick out about people story who claim they lost from investing in bitcoin is that they panic and sold when there was a price dip that lasted for long and it created fears of uncertainty in them. The fear that their portfolio was depreciating more and more with the dipping bitcoin price. Instead of them to hop in the opportunity to accumulate more sats to their portfolio they panic and sold at a lost. But they won't be transparent about that when sharing how they lost their money they invested instead they cook up stories to cover their impatient and lack of knowledge about how bitcoin works.

It is there own loss whether they cover it or not because it doesn't affect me or you in anyway, no matter how long or time it take Bitcoin in a Dip one should not think of selling there investment because Dip is also one of the feature or characteristics of Bitcoin ( volatility). Volatility doesn't just means uptrend rather it is both up and down but some people misunderstood it and that is why when they see the price is going down they will rush and sell thinking they are wise and at the end of the day they found out that they are not.

[As-Soon-As]

Sure, any small amount can end up adding up to a lot of money, but it seems to be a waste of time to be focusing on such small amounts for our base case examples .Sure some guys are going to have to round down their numbers to deal with their own finances, yet practically, I see no reason to be giving examples of $2 per month or $2 per week, even if some guys might ONLY be able to do that amount. You can do what you want and present numbers however you like, but it seems better to be attempting to deal with at least $10 per week as our cases on the lower end of the investment range... for our examples...

 though I could imagine how long it will take before they can be able to accumulate half of the value of bitcoin or getting to the status of overaccumulation this will take (probably 50 to hundred years if I'm not mistaken) And majority of this guys can give up along the line probably due to old age or the unknown death" and I'm about to agree with you on the fact that investing with $2 seems to be a waste of time because after all the time they have wasted so far  and it happens that they couldn't get to the status of overaccumulation, in this case it becomes a waste of time, Now I know that is good to run a race that we know we can easily win.

If the price of Bitcoin is always going up, investors will never be able to participate in investment, because when the price of Bitcoin is low and a dip is created, investors immediately start buying. Therefore, when there is a dip and instability in Bitcoin, the fear of investors to invest increases, because I myself buy Bitcoin with some money temporarily when the price of Bitcoin is low and invest in Bitcoin by following the DCA method weekly.
Buying dips is one of the biggest reasons for improvement and success in investment, if you want to be successful quickly, buying dips is also a big sign of success along with the Bitcoin DCA method.

[Catenaccio]

If the price of Bitcoin is always going up, investors will never be able to participate in investment, because when the price of Bitcoin is low and a dip is created, investors immediately start buying.

If in any market, an asset only goes up without falls, dips, corrections, it's not a natural market and it is a highly manipulative or even entirely manipulative. So it does not make sense to join such a purely manipulative market because you can lose all your money any time. Fortunately, with Bitcoin market, it's natural operating by supply and demand principle and people have enough time and the chances to join it. They don't have to fall into wrong thinking like "today is my last chance of participating in Bitcoin market. Otherwise I will be an outsider forever and miss the Bitcoin train completely".

Therefore, when there is a dip and instability in Bitcoin, the fear of investors to invest increases, because I myself buy Bitcoin with some money temporarily when the price of Bitcoin is low and invest in Bitcoin by following the DCA method weekly.
Buying dips is one of the biggest reasons for improvement and success in investment, if you want to be successful quickly, buying dips is also a big sign of success along with the Bitcoin DCA method

DCA is a good investment strategy for both experienced, senior investors to newbie investors. It requires very basic understand about the market, the strategy and very basic disciplines for successful investment. I don't say investing with DCA strategy is very easy and it is challenging with newbies, but if compares it to investment with other strategies or without strategies, or with trading, investment with DCA is more easily to do rightly and get profit.

[JayJuanGee]

Sure, any small amount can end up adding up to a lot of money, but it seems to be a waste of time to be focusing on such small amounts for our base case examples .Sure some guys are going to have to round down their numbers to deal with their own finances, yet practically, I see no reason to be giving examples of $2 per month or $2 per week, even if some guys might ONLY be able to do that amount. You can do what you want and present numbers however you like, but it seems better to be attempting to deal with at least $10 per week as our cases on the lower end of the investment range... for our examples...

though I could imagine how long it will take before they can be able to accumulate half of the value of bitcoin or getting to the status of overaccumulation this will take (probably 50 to hundred years if I'm not mistaken)

I am not suggesting that these guys who can ONLY buy $2 at a time do not invest into bitcoin, yet I am proclaiming that they are special cases and they surely might not even be in a position to figure outsystems in order to manage such small buys, but they still might be advantaged by engaging in such ongoing buys....but like Sim_Card had mentioned in an earlier post, they may well be better off to allow their fiat amount get up to a higher amount before investing, such as $10 or more... .but they can do what they like, and sure, if they are not penalized by fees it still might make sense to ongoingly make such small purchases.  I just doubt it is very valuable to be focusing on such cases or referring to examples of guys who have such low levels of discretionary income, including that referring to having $10 per week as a poor person seems to make the point that even the person with $10 per week, they are not going to have a lot of options, but they still may need to trying to build up their bitcoin investment size and their emergency fund at the same time...and still try to employ reasonable and prudent cashflow management practices.

And majority of this guys can give up along the line probably due to old age or the unknown death" and I'm about to agree with you on the fact that investing with $2 seems to be a waste of time because after all the time they have wasted so far  and it happens that they couldn't get to the status of overaccumulation, in this case it becomes a waste of time, Now I know that is good to run a race that we know we can easily win.

If you are now forcing me to take the other side of my earlier proposition, even though I never said that anyone should not invest into bitcoin, but instead I said that our examples should be mostly attempting to work towards guys of $10 or more per week as the examples of poor folks instead of giving examples of guys who might ONLY be able to invest $2 per week or $2 per month.

I think that anyone who has a discretionary income can invest into bitcoin, yet surely one of the problems when a person has such a low discretionary income, they may well end up making mistakes in terms of thinking that their $2 is discretionary income, but in the end they are so poor that they actually need that money at a later point.... Each person has to determine the extent that such small investments into bitcoin over a long period of time may well end up advantaging them more than hurting them.. since they do not need to get to overaccumulation status in order to be advantaged by investing into bitcoin, yet it may well be better if they are able to plan to invest 4-10 years or more, other wise if they cannot establish at least a 4-year timeline for their bitcoin investment at the time that they start their bitcoin investment, then they would be trading (and/or gambling) rather than investing, and I personally don't recommend that anyone trades and/or gambles bitcoin, even though surely they are free to do whatever they like with their money.. I just don't recommend trading/gambling bitcoin.

[Gost ms]

Sure, any small amount can end up adding up to a lot of money, but it seems to be a waste of time to be focusing on such small amounts for our base case examples .Sure some guys are going to have to round down their numbers to deal with their own finances, yet practically, I see no reason to be giving examples of $2 per month or $2 per week, even if some guys might ONLY be able to do that amount. You can do what you want and present numbers however you like, but it seems better to be attempting to deal with at least $10 per week as our cases on the lower end of the investment range... for our examples...

 though I could imagine how long it will take before they can be able to accumulate half of the value of bitcoin or getting to the status of overaccumulation this will take (probably 50 to hundred years if I'm not mistaken) And majority of this guys can give up along the line probably due to old age or the unknown death" and I'm about to agree with you on the fact that investing with $2 seems to be a waste of time because after all the time they have wasted so far  and it happens that they couldn't get to the status of overaccumulation, in this case it becomes a waste of time, Now I know that is good to run a race that we know we can easily win.

If the price of Bitcoin is always going up, investors will never be able to participate in investment, because when the price of Bitcoin is low and a dip is created, investors immediately start buying. Therefore, when there is a dip and instability in Bitcoin, the fear of investors to invest increases, because I myself buy Bitcoin with some money temporarily when the price of Bitcoin is low and invest in Bitcoin by following the DCA method weekly.
Buying dips is one of the biggest reasons for improvement and success in investment, if you want to be successful quickly, buying dips is also a big sign of success along with the Bitcoin DCA method.

DIP and DCA are two investment methods. There is no such thing as a quick success from investing by investing through DIP and DCA. I think DCA method is the best for investment. If a person of yours buys using the DCA method, he can buy at almost all levels at its price. Investment is long-term, such as 8 to 10 years. What do you mean by quick success? Investment is a long-term process, such as selling after a few days, and then making some money, which is not called investment, this is trading. There are many risks in trading, you can lose all your money and you can lose all your money. But the risk is much lower in long-term investment.

You can quickly accumulate the amount of Bitcoin you want in your portfolio by buying through DCA and DIP, but this does not mean that you will become successful very quickly. The Bitcoin market is very volatile, no one can say when it will happen. You can never say whether you have succeeded or failed until your time limit is up.

[G_Besar]

DIP and DCA are two investment methods. There is no such thing as a quick success from investing by investing through DIP and DCA. I think DCA method is the best for investment. If a person of yours buys using the DCA method, he can buy at almost all levels at its price. Investment is long-term, such as 8 to 10 years. What do you mean by quick success? Investment is a long-term process, such as selling after a few days, and then making some money, which is not called investment, this is trading. There are many risks in trading, you can lose all your money and you can lose all your money. But the risk is much lower in long-term investment.

You can quickly accumulate the amount of Bitcoin you want in your portfolio by buying through DCA and DIP, but this does not mean that you will become successful very quickly. The Bitcoin market is very volatile, no one can say when it will happen. You can never say whether you have succeeded or failed until your time limit is up.

Everything has a risk and the level of risk will be proportional to the potential profit that will be obtained so when someone has to trade so that assets increase from the trading profits they make, there is nothing wrong, regarding the risk I think it is quite worth it with the profits obtained because there is nothing profitable without risk and someone who does that must be ready for everything including being ready with the knowledge they have and having confidence in the trades they make.

The DCA method is indeed quite good for future investments, we will continue to add assets to the portfolio regardless of the price of Bitcoin at that time but it is only within the limits of our ability without being able to increase rapidly.

So for someone who has long-term investments with the DCA method or trades to add assets to the portfolio I think both are good, depending on the trading knowledge we have.

[Joy- maker]

If the price of Bitcoin is always going up, investors will never be able to participate in investment, because when the price of Bitcoin is low and a dip is created, investors immediately start buying.

I disagree with you because a real investor who is investing in bitcoin for long term 5 to 10 years Will participate in buying bitcoin at any price level, that is to say if the price is high he or she buys, when it dip he or she buy and hold since the he or she is focusing on long term holding 5 to 10 years or longer.

Therefore, when there is a dip and instability in Bitcoin, the fear of investors to invest increases,
 

I also disagree with you here, because real investors don't fear nor panic when bitcoin dip or when the price is not stable rather they see it dips as opportunities to accumulate aggressively and hold, only those who there focus is on short term investment fear and Panic when bitcoin dip or price is not stable.

because I myself buy Bitcoin with some money temporarily when the price of Bitcoin is low and invest in Bitcoin by following the DCA method weekly.
 

waiting for bitcoin to dip before making a buys is not a good way to approach bitcoin, since you already have your discretionary income I we advice you start accumulating bitcoin using the DCA method and hold for long term instead of waiting for dips, because it will delay your investment junney, unless you want to tell me that your focus is not long term holding which is also a wrong approach towards bitcoin, because bitcoin is not other shitcoins that you should garbage in and garbage out, bitcoin is a store of value with potential returns so your focus should be long term holding and not short term.

[Tonimez]

You can never say whether you have succeeded or failed until your time limit is up.

Everything has a risk and the level of risk will be proportional to the potential profit that will be obtained so when someone has to trade so that assets increase from the trading profits they make, there is nothing wrong, regarding the risk I think it is quite worth it with the profits obtained because there is nothing profitable without risk and someone who does that must be ready for everything including being ready with the knowledge they have and having confidence in the trades they make.

The DCA method is indeed quite good for future investments, we will continue to add assets to the portfolio regardless of the price of Bitcoin at that time but it is only within the limits of our ability without being able to increase rapidly.

So for someone who has long-term investments with the DCA method or trades to add assets to the portfolio I think both are good, depending on the trading knowledge we have.

You can not be more careful when it comes to trading. Admitting a 50-50 chance for your asset just a tiny chance of making it quick. Is it better to loose your money out of impatience?? I can bet you that you wouldn't like that to be a risk taker. People go out of their ways to borrow and trade and most times end up loosing everything. This is what you can avoid by strictly following your DCA with your Discretionary income. All you need to do is get a stable source of income and handle your bitcoin as your retirement plan and not a gateway to quick wealth.

Every body has a limit to what they can do and setting up your holding time would also give you a distinct direction and target to what you can achieve. Bitcoin would always be way up as the world has come to realise it's important value.

[Futurexxx]

If the price of Bitcoin is always going up, investors will never be able to participate in investment, because when the price of Bitcoin is low and a dip is created, investors immediately start buying.

I disagree with you because a real investor who is investing in bitcoin for long term 5 to 10 years Will participate in buying bitcoin at any price level, that is to say if the price is high he or she buys, when it dip he or she buy and hold since the he or she is focusing on long term holding 5 to 10 years or longer.

Therefore, when there is a dip and instability in Bitcoin, the fear of investors to invest increases,
 

I also disagree with you here, because real investors don't fear nor panic when bitcoin dip or when the price is not stable rather they see it dips as opportunities to accumulate aggressively and hold, only those who there focus is on short term investment fear and Panic when bitcoin dip or price is not stable.

because I myself buy Bitcoin with some money temporarily when the price of Bitcoin is low and invest in Bitcoin by following the DCA method weekly.
 

waiting for bitcoin to dip before making a buys is not a good way to approach bitcoin, since you already have your discretionary income I we advice you start accumulating bitcoin using the DCA method and hold for long term instead of waiting for dips, because it will delay your investment junney, unless you want to tell me that your focus is not long term holding which is also a wrong approach towards bitcoin, because bitcoin is not other shitcoins that you should garbage in and garbage out, bitcoin is a store of value with potential returns so your focus should be long term holding and not short term.

Waiting for Bitcoin to drop in value before making a purchase is myopic in my own opinion because the value of Bitcoin right now is very cheap comparing to how much it might get up to in ten to twenty years time from now, so why wait before buying?
Don't you know that by waiting you might miss a whole lot of buying opportunities because you will think that the price will go deeper, and mostly you will get discouraged in buying at all if the value started adding up from there, so the logical thing to do now is to buy as soon as possible once your discretionary income is available either through the DCA accumulating strategy or through the lumps sum strategy which I am very confident that it's a move you will never regret in years to come.

[Justbillywitt]

 though I could imagine how long it will take before they can be able to accumulate half of the value of bitcoin or getting to the status of overaccumulation this will take (probably 50 to hundred years if I'm not mistaken) And majority of this guys can give up along the line probably due to old age or the unknown death" and I'm about to agree with you on the fact that investing with $2 seems to be a waste of time because after all the time they have wasted so far  and it happens that they couldn't get to the status of overaccumulation, in this case it becomes a waste of time, Now I know that is good to run a race that we know we can easily win.

If the price of Bitcoin is always going up, investors will never be able to participate in investment,

Where did you draw this conclusion from? I think at this point it's best you speak for yourself because I know that real investors invest in bitcoin at all market conditions. Wether the price is always going up or coming down. So using a strong terms like "investors will NEVER be able participate in investment when price are going up is a lie. It simply shows that you don't really know what long term investment is all about. And you are someone who claims to be investing in bitcoin through the DCA method, and yet you are saying if the price keeps going up that investors will never be able to participate in investment. Now my question to you is, do you really know what the DCA method is all about?

because when the price of Bitcoin is low and a dip is created, investors immediately start buying.

This are not the characteristics of long term investors, what you described here typically fits the profile of traders.
As investors don't just wait for the dip alone to buy bitcoin only day traders does that.

Therefore, when there is a dip and instability in Bitcoin, the fear of investors to invest increases,

This is another lie that I have to disagree with you as well. Investors utilise the instabilities in the market to their own advantage by continuously accumulating at a discounted prices. I think you are refering to newbies. Newbies are usually the ones that develop phobia in this kind of situation.

[Nheer]

If the price of Bitcoin is always going up, investors will never be able to participate in investment, because when the price of Bitcoin is low and a dip is created, investors immediately start buying.

That's why there are various strategies for investment and sometimes when the price is high and you want to wait till there is a dip you just wasting time because there are strategies you adopt that you don't have to waste time waiting and still help reduce the impact of market volatility. With Bitcoin if you invest periodically (DCA) you don't have to worry about whether the price is high or low, in years to come you will still be at profit that's why long term investment is mostly advised.

Therefore, when there is a dip and instability in Bitcoin, the fear of investors to invest increases,
 

You're getting it all wrong, when there is a dip it is the best time to get Bitcoin at a cheaper price and instead of panicking about it you should see it as an opportunity to accumulate more to get the best out of it. It's normal for new investors to get scared but with time they will know that it's just part of the game.

[Taskford]

waiting for bitcoin to dip before making a buys is not a good way to approach bitcoin, since you already have your discretionary income I we advice you start accumulating bitcoin using the DCA method and hold for long term instead of waiting for dips, because it will delay your investment junney, unless you want to tell me that your focus is not long term holding which is also a wrong approach towards bitcoin, because bitcoin is not other shitcoins that you should garbage in and garbage out, bitcoin is a store of value with potential returns so your focus should be long term holding and not short term.

Waiting for Bitcoin to drop in value before making a purchase is myopic in my own opinion because the value of Bitcoin right now is very cheap comparing to how much it might get up to in ten to twenty years time from now, so why wait before buying?
Don't you know that by waiting you might miss a whole lot of buying opportunities because you will think that the price will go deeper, and mostly you will get discouraged in buying at all if the value started adding up from there, so the logical thing to do now is to buy as soon as possible once your discretionary income is available either through the DCA accumulating strategy or through the lumps sum strategy which I am very confident that it's a move you will never regret in years to come.
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This is what should people need to think about if its really worth to wait for a dip before buying. Since by it means that the market is unpredictable it already show that waiting for that situation is somehow a bad decision to take especially that there's no guarantee that they can really spot that situation in their desired that. If that dip they are waiting for didn't happen for sure that they miss a lot of opportunity also time.

That's why its always been advisable to buy now if they are going for long term investment for Bitcoin since for sure that they won't have any regrets for doing it especially that if they see their acquired Bitcoin's is growing.

But for sure they would realize that situation if they use DCA strategy since this provably would make them ignore the dip but rather they take advantage to buy at whatever price since they would know its important to look at the bitcoins they could currently get rather than guessing about on when the dip would came.

[Popkon6]

Even though the price of Bitcoin has decreased in the middle, it is now more valuable than before. Those who were holding Bitcoin a few days ago were disappointed, those who could not invest or take advantage of the opportunity during the decreasing market price of Bitcoin have nothing to do but regret. However, the high market price does not mean that you cannot start investing. If you buy Bitcoin at the current 108k original price and start investing and hold it for a long time, you may not have to regret it anymore.

The market is right for investment at any time. Because if you are a Bitcoin holder, do not hesitate to invest in Bitcoin under any circumstances. Just like an entrepreneur does not succeed until he takes the initiative.

The market changes every moment and if this market change did not happen, investors would not have invested so much money in Bitcoin. The Bitcoin market was not in a very good phase from the beginning to the middle of last year, but in a few months, the Bitcoin market almost doubled, which is why many investors started thinking differently about Bitcoin. Bitcoin is undoubtedly a popular digital currency and gradually its popularity and price have increased, so considering the past, we can imagine that in the next five years, the popularity of Bitcoin will increase a lot, as well as we will see many changes in its price.

We should not only think about the price of Bitcoin, I have been watching the Bitcoin market for more than two years. So it has become more popular and expensive in the present than in the past, so over time, those who were related to Bitcoin investment have been successful. So I want to say that we should not look at the price and popularity of Bitcoin, we have to participate in Bitcoin investment, then we can also move towards success with the increase in the price of Bitcoin.
In the past, the price of Bitcoin was very low, but those who could not invest in Bitcoin are regretting it today, and now those who are disappointed with the price of Bitcoin and do not participate in investment will also regret it in the future. So regardless of any aspect, we must participate in Bitcoin investment, then we can move towards success over time and with the increase in the price of Bitcoin.