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June 20, 2025, 08:40:19 AM
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I think Is normal for a newbie to make analysis, You mean to tell me that you just walked in into this space and start investing without making analysis to be able to know the potential of the coin you're investing in? Is obvious that the awareness that bitcoin has created is even more than enough reason to prove to us that bitcoin has a good potential in the future yet this is not going to be enough for most people so they would want to see for themselves,  Depending on what their intentions is. if it's in other to invest for short term profit I think the risk is on them, But is always advised to go for Long term investment to avoid stressing ourselves.

What should newbies analyze about Bitcoin when their intention is to invest in it for the long term? Once a newbie has the basic knowledge of Bitcoin investment, it's good to go ahead and start investing. From there, they can begin to learn more especially about how to properly secure their funds, such as by learning how to use non-custodial wallets.

In fact, it is short-term investors who are more like traders that often focus on analyzing coins before entering the market. The truth is, Bitcoin investment steps are very simple, and someone who is serious about truly investing in Bitcoin doesn’t need much time to waste on trying to study too deeply at first before startinh it bitcoin investment.
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June 20, 2025, 09:20:59 AM
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Take note that you don't needs to analyze the market as a Bitcoin investor, just buy once your discretionary income is available because the price of Bitcoin now is still very cheap comparing to how much it might be in ten to twenty years time from now, so why analyzing?
 
And secondly, their is nothing as a short term investor, it's either you are a long term investor or a trader that buys with the intention of selling for minimal gains in a very short time interval, so in my own opinion, those people that buy and sold their Bitcoin just because it appreciate in value are not investors, they are traders that sold for minimal gains.

Finally, when it comes to investment in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to think only long term because the way Bitcoin is wired, you can only reap the full dividend of your investment when you buy and hold for a very long period of time, not minimal gains that wouldn't have any significant impact on your financial status.

Different people see it differently, but yeah, generally, BTC is seen as the true store of value to be hodled for a long time, 4-5 years at minimal, to see good results, accumulating little by little.

Other coins cannot be used for the same logic simply because they are not as stable.
I can agree with you that bitcoin is a true is store of value with potential when you buy and hold for long term. But I disagree with you that 4 to 5 years holding is not enough for a real bitcoin investors who truly know what they they are doing, rather bitcoin holding should be from 5 to 10 years or more to me in massive profits.
Holding for 4-5 years is quite enough time that you’ve completed a full circle at that point, most guys who have not been in bitcoin for a very long time could’ve easily been accumulating more considering that they have enough money and are wealthy to keep investing, they could’ve front load there Bitcoin in that year interval so I think that that could’ve been a very long time to have accumulated bitcoin, probably they must have had other business then they come across a lot of cash to accumulate more and even be more aggressive. So I would say that is quite a good amount of time interval to have been able to build a stable bitcoin portfolio.

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June 20, 2025, 09:29:38 AM
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Take note that you don't needs to analyze the market as a Bitcoin investor, just buy once your discretionary income is available because the price of Bitcoin now is still very cheap comparing to how much it might be in ten to twenty years time from now, so why analyzing?
 
And secondly, their is nothing as a short term investor, it's either you are a long term investor or a trader that buys with the intention of selling for minimal gains in a very short time interval, so in my own opinion, those people that buy and sold their Bitcoin just because it appreciate in value are not investors, they are traders that sold for minimal gains.

Finally, when it comes to investment in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to think only long term because the way Bitcoin is wired, you can only reap the full dividend of your investment when you buy and hold for a very long period of time, not minimal gains that wouldn't have any significant impact on your financial status.

Different people see it differently, but yeah, generally, BTC is seen as the true store of value to be hodled for a long time, 4-5 years at minimal, to see good results, accumulating little by little.

Other coins cannot be used for the same logic simply because they are not as stable.
I can agree with you that bitcoin is a true is store of value with potential when you buy and hold for long term. But I disagree with you that 4 to 5 years holding is not enough for a real bitcoin investors who truly know what they they are doing, rather bitcoin holding should be from 5 to 10 years or more to me in massive profits.

As an investor you should be holding from 5 to 10 years not 4 to 5 years, however just like you said anyone who's holding for 4 to 5 years is still in the right direction, everyone has a target and as soon as they meet that target they don't go further anymore.
But let me clear something if you are holding from 2 to 4 years you are just a trader and not an investor some people call it short term investors but is simply trading, we all know how Bitcoin growth is and you are just planning on accumulating to holding for just 2 to 4 years and still call yourself an investor no you are a trader and not an investor.
One of the reason why they always tell investors to invest what they can afford to lose is because if you use money that you don't really need to invest you can hold it for years without caring about it but if you use money you want to use to settle something important you can't hold for long, so as an investor you should be ready to hold for 5 to 10 years without it being a big deal.
As investors & holders of Bitcoin, we all have different accumulation targets and how long we choose to hold is entirely up to us. The truth is even if our holdings durations might be different as long term investors, we are also expected to Hold for a  minimum of 4-10 years as some investors can equally go as far as holding their Bitcoin for additional period of 20years or more,it's also there choices. As Investors what's makes us more unique from  traders is our ability to be consistent in accumulating and holding Bitcoin for a very long time and I believe that's is the most appropriate & acceptable approach towards maximizing profits in Bitcoin.

If we continue to use funds meant for our basics needs to invest in Bitcoin,we might find it difficult to maintain and sustain our Bitcoin portfolio for a long time. This is why in other to be able to maintain our investments and to minimize the risks  investing in Bitcoin,it's very necessary we only used our discretional income to invest in Bitcoin until we reached our accumulation targets and even when we reached our accumulation target,we might also choose to continue accumulating Bitcoin for the long term.

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June 20, 2025, 09:52:26 AM
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The reason why we as an investor is not suppose to be analyzing the market is not because Bitcoin is on the rise that is very wrong rather the reason why we should not disturb ourselves about market analysis is because we are not traders and we don't believe in short term profit and the short term profit is not even certain. When you say Bitcoin is on the rise, that can easily mislead a newbie who doesn't have any knowledge of what Bitcoin is all about, remember Bitcoin is a volatile asset which means that its value can go up and also down so the value is not constant in any particular direction.
Leave the price of Bitcoin and focus on investing. Whether or not you see the price of Bitcoin is a personal choice. Watching the price of Bitcoin does not mean that you are getting lost in the confusion or that a newbie is getting confused. Someone who has come to invest with a long-term plan will not feel the impact of the price list. If someone does not have a set station for investing, then it is natural for him to be affected by the price. So I would like to leave the market analysis to one person. But he is definitely wasting his time.
Of course you should leave the price of Bitcoin and focus on investing. My mind tells me that Bitcoin is still a cute orange baby. So considering that situation we should all understand that Bitcoin is still locked in availability, which means we can now own this asset very easily. You're still right that watching the price of Bitcoin doesn't mean someone is getting confused, in fact, investors may not get confused by market fluctuations. Market analysis certainly has its advantages, but some of those benefits can only be enjoyed by long term investors. It may be an accurate statement that it is important for investors to be aware of market movements or the price of Bitcoin. It is also true that if there is no specific station for investment, So that nocoiner can be affected by the price of Bitcoin.











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June 20, 2025, 11:01:08 AM
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Different people see it differently, but yeah, generally, BTC is seen as the true store of value to be hodled for a long time, 4-5 years at minimal, to see good results, accumulating little by little.

Other coins cannot be used for the same logic simply because they are not as stable.
Basically Bitcoin is also not a stable coin because Bitcoin also often experiences increases in every cycle like every four years and can also experience decreases when its holders start to panic due to something like war and also the increase in interest rates at the FED. So if you only invest in assets that can be stable in value, it will not give you more benefits except to save the value of the money you put into the investment. That is why at this time there are already many people who want to use their money to buy Bitcoin because they can hope for a four-year cycle to get financial freedom when they have more profits from the investment.

I can agree with you that bitcoin is a true is store of value with potential when you buy and hold for long term. But I disagree with you that 4 to 5 years holding is not enough for a real bitcoin investors who truly know what they they are doing, rather bitcoin holding should be from 5 to 10 years or more to me in massive profits.
Holding for five years after buying it by DCA or by accumulation by using stages in every week or month is also a good step and has also been quite long although for investors who can be patient more than that will also be better for the sustainability of their own investment. Moreover, after five years every investor can also buy again in the same way after they release some Bitcoin that they have collected from a low price in order to take some profit. Because every investor also does not have to sell all their holdings after they have collected Bitcoin for a fairly long period.
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June 20, 2025, 11:06:10 AM
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I think Is normal for a newbie to make analysis, You mean to tell me that you just walked in into this space and start investing without making analysis to be able to know the potential of the coin you're investing in? Is obvious that the awareness that bitcoin has created is even more than enough reason to prove to us that bitcoin has a good potential in the future yet this is not going to be enough for most people so they would want to see for themselves,  Depending on what their intentions is. if it's in other to invest for short term profit I think the risk is on them, But is always advised to go for Long term investment to avoid stressing ourselves.


Their is no point making any analysis as a newbie, once you have the basic knowledge on Bitcoin and how to accumulate it you are good to go, those newbie investors that thinks that they must analyze the market before buying so they can know more about Bitcoin truly never have the basic knowledge on Bitcoin, because if they do, they wouldn't be making any analysis, besides what do they even think they know in technical and fundamental analysis that they are analyzing?

Analysis are for traders and those that are looking for short term gains or hoping to sell for minimal gains, not Investors that are holdings for long term.
Additionally, what most of these guys doing analysis don't know is that Bitcoin is still very cheap and it's a bargain now comparing to how much it might rise up to in the future, so just buy once your discretionary income is available, in the nearest future we will be glad that we cease the opportunity now that it's still very early.

Newbies need to manage the risks properly mostly, imo.

Other things were done so many times and should be just repeated properly in order to reach results.
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June 20, 2025, 11:08:37 AM
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It is important you know that your investment into bitcoin has no guarantee, same reason you are advised to invest into it what you can afford to loose so that at worst, you would only loose 100% of what you invested into it.
Yea, there's no written document as to guarantee anyone of a given return in bitcoin but investors can see and feel it at all time. If bitcoin was a scam project or as risky as some traders make it appear, it could have lost all its credibility by now. For over 16 years now, real investors have studied bitcoin and mapped out a less greedy -high guaranteed system of investment (DCA approach using only discretionary income) but traders have refused to listen to that. This is the origin of this wrong orientation about investing what you can afford to loose.
Yes it is true that no one can guarantee profit by investing in Bitcoin. But if we look at the history of Bitcoin then Bitcoin has proved that holding Bitcoin in the long run can expect profit. Because the price of Bitcoin was very low in the past, but currently the price of Bitcoin is more than $100k dollars. Now very few people know about Bitcoin, in the future many more people will know about Bitcoin, which will increase the popularity of Bitcoin, due to which the price of Bitcoin will increase more in the future than in the present. So we can expect that investing in Bitcoin now can make good profits in the future. Now we cannot say that Bitcoin is 100% risk free, there is definitely some risk involved, but currently Bitcoin is very less risky. So we should invest according to our ability.
Looking at the history of Bitcoin, it is clear how Bitcoin behaves in the short term and the long term, Bitcoin is a volatile currency, so in the short term Bitcoin will naturally fluctuate constantly, but in the long term Bitcoin has always been valuable in history and Bitcoin will always be valuable in the long term in the future also.
Although we cannot guarantee the future, but in terms of probability and history and relevant analysis, Bitcoin will have a high probability of being valuable in the long term, Bitcoin is constantly making itself stronger, and people are understanding Bitcoin more and more deeply, so the demand is constantly increasing, so the price will definitely be positively affected.
All in all, Bitcoin should be bought at as low a price as possible while there is time, because there will not always be an opportunity to buy at such a low price, because Bitcoin is going to achieve a lot of great heights in the future.
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I can agree with you that bitcoin is a true is store of value with potential when you buy and hold for long term. But I disagree with you that 4 to 5 years holding is not enough for a real bitcoin investors who truly know what they they are doing, rather bitcoin holding should be from 5 to 10 years or more to me in massive profits.
Holding for 4-5 years is quite enough time that you’ve completed a full circle at that point, most guys who have not been in bitcoin for a very long time could’ve easily been accumulating more considering that they have enough money and are wealthy to keep investing, they could’ve front load there Bitcoin in that year interval so I think that that could’ve been a very long time to have accumulated bitcoin, probably they must have had other business then they come across a lot of cash to accumulate more and even be more aggressive. So I would say that is quite a good amount of time interval to have been able to build a stable bitcoin portfolio.
Anyhow you are trying to make it looks like, it still not logical to see 4-5 years interval as long term, if you are actually talking about long term, you should be talking of 10 years interval or more, how long are you going to be buying and how long are you going to be holding in that interval of 4- 5 years?
Sorry to say this nothing tangible will comes out of your investment because the best you can get from it will be too small to make any significant impact on your finances. So the best way to go about your Bitcoin investment is to buy and hold for like 10 years or more, it's only through that you can make a fortune from your Bitcoin investment, not 4-5 years interval.

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I think Is normal for a newbie to make analysis, You mean to tell me that you just walked in into this space and start investing without making analysis to be able to know the potential of the coin you're investing in? Is obvious that the awareness that bitcoin has created is even more than enough reason to prove to us that bitcoin has a good potential in the future yet this is not going to be enough for most people so they would want to see for themselves,  Depending on what their intentions is. if it's in other to invest for short term profit I think the risk is on them, But is always advised to go for Long term investment to avoid stressing ourselves.


Their is no point making any analysis as a newbie, once you have the basic knowledge on Bitcoin and how to accumulate it you are good to go, those newbie investors that thinks that they must analyze the market before buying so they can know more about Bitcoin truly never have the basic knowledge on Bitcoin, because if they do, they wouldn't be making any analysis, besides what do they even think they know in technical and fundamental analysis that they are analyzing?

Analysis are for traders and those that are looking for short term gains or hoping to sell for minimal gains, not Investors that are holdings for long term.
Additionally, what most of these guys doing analysis don't know is that Bitcoin is still very cheap and it's a bargain now comparing to how much it might rise up to in the future, so just buy once your discretionary income is available, in the nearest future we will be glad that we cease the opportunity now that it's still very early.
I agree with you no need for newbies to be analysing the bitcoin market before make a buy. Ones you have the basic knowledge about bitcoin you start accumulating bitcoin using the DCA method consistently and hold for long term 5 to 10 or more. People who analysis the market are mostly traders and not investors, provided your mindset is long term holding you can just get started by accumulating bitcoin and hold, because no need to analyse the market as an investor.

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Their is no point making any analysis as a newbie, once you have the basic knowledge on Bitcoin and how to accumulate it you are good to go, those newbie investors that thinks that they must analyze the market before buying so they can know more about Bitcoin truly never have the basic knowledge on Bitcoin, because if they do, they wouldn't be making any analysis, besides what do they even think they know in technical and fundamental analysis that they are analyzing?

Analysis are for traders and those that are looking for short term gains or hoping to sell for minimal gains, not Investors that are holdings for long term.
Additionally, what most of these guys doing analysis don't know is that Bitcoin is still very cheap and it's a bargain now comparing to how much it might rise up to in the future, so just buy once your discretionary income is available, in the nearest future we will be glad that we cease the opportunity now that it's still very early.
I agree with you no need for newbies to be analysing the bitcoin market before make a buy. Ones you have the basic knowledge about bitcoin you start accumulating bitcoin using the DCA method consistently and hold for long term 5 to 10 or more. People who analysis the market the market are mostly traders and not investors, provided your mindset is long term holding you can just get started by accumulating bitcoin and hold hold no need to analyse the market.

It always give me an impression that those people analyzing the market is trading Bitcoin. Since there's really no point for them to do that especially if their intention is to buy and hold Bitcoin for long term.

There's no need for us to be strategic since Bitcoin investment is easy. Maybe what they need to pay attention at first is on how they can execute DCA strategy so well so that they can apply this method on their many phase of accumulation. If they can work everything well without thinking about pumps and dumps then there's good chance that everything will be easy and they are stress free on their Bitcoin investment.

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It always give me an impression that those people analyzing the market is trading Bitcoin. Since there's really no point for them to do that especially if their intention is to buy and hold Bitcoin for long term.

There's no need for us to be strategic since Bitcoin investment is easy. Maybe what they need to pay attention at first is on how they can execute DCA strategy so well so that they can apply this method on their many phase of accumulation. If they can work everything well without thinking about pumps and dumps then there's good chance that everything will be easy and they are stress free on their Bitcoin investment.

Some try to find details where there shouldn't be any - accumulating BTC properly is the most stress-free activity there can be on the market currently, other coins and stuff may be unstable and not worth it, but with BTC - it all clicks.
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It always give me an impression that those people analyzing the market is trading Bitcoin. Since there's really no point for them to do that especially if their intention is to buy and hold Bitcoin for long term.

There's no need for us to be strategic since Bitcoin investment is easy. Maybe what they need to pay attention at first is on how they can execute DCA strategy so well so that they can apply this method on their many phase of accumulation. If they can work everything well without thinking about pumps and dumps then there's good chance that everything will be easy and they are stress free on their Bitcoin investment.
Bitcoin investment is not as easy as you think it maybe because some newbies may think that it is something they may get into and make quick profit within a short period of time . Bitcoin investment is not a risk free investment since it is not a risk free investment. Even if you are doing DCA it doesn't mean it is easy with a good plan you may end up doing it wrongly or even investing more than your discretion there by making it a problematic and stressful investment. If bitcoin investment is as easy as you think, i believe everybody would have invested in it.so holding bitcoin for a longer term is not as easy as you think, bitcoin investment require patience and high risk tolerance .

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It always give me an impression that those people analyzing the market is trading Bitcoin. Since there's really no point for them to do that especially if their intention is to buy and hold Bitcoin for long term.

There's no need for us to be strategic since Bitcoin investment is easy. Maybe what they need to pay attention at first is on how they can execute DCA strategy so well so that they can apply this method on their many phase of accumulation. If they can work everything well without thinking about pumps and dumps then there's good chance that everything will be easy and they are stress free on their Bitcoin investment.
Bitcoin investment is not as easy as you think it maybe because some newbies may think that it is something they may get into and make quick profit within a short period of time . Bitcoin investment is not a risk free investment since it is not a risk free investment. Even if you are doing DCA it doesn't mean it is easy with a good plan you may end up doing it wrongly or even investing more than your discretion there by making it a problematic and stressful investment. If bitcoin investment is as easy as you think, i believe everybody would have invested in it.so holding bitcoin for a longer term is not as easy as you think, bitcoin investment require patience and high risk tolerance .

I completely agree that buying Bitcoin is much easier than to hold which of course that is where patience and others necessarily good Bitcoin investment approach should be considered and this includes planing or having a long term commitment in mind because Bitcoin is not a quick and get rich scheme, investment money has to be discretionary income .

No doubt about Bitcoin investment not being risk free and talking about the risk tolerance I will not say it requires high risk tolerance because every one is expected to understand their risk tolerance level and only invest as they can tolerate because you saying it requires high risk tolerance might pass a negative feedback to certain person mean while you are only expected to according to your own risk tolerance level without struggling.

 
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It always give me an impression that those people analyzing the market is trading Bitcoin. Since there's really no point for them to do that especially if their intention is to buy and hold Bitcoin for long term.

There's no need for us to be strategic since Bitcoin investment is easy. Maybe what they need to pay attention at first is on how they can execute DCA strategy so well so that they can apply this method on their many phase of accumulation. If they can work everything well without thinking about pumps and dumps then there's good chance that everything will be easy and they are stress free on their Bitcoin investment.
Bitcoin investment is not as easy as you think it maybe because some newbies may think that it is something they may get into and make quick profit within a short period of time . Bitcoin investment is not a risk free investment since it is not a risk free investment. Even if you are doing DCA it doesn't mean it is easy with a good plan you may end up doing it wrongly or even investing more than your discretion there by making it a problematic and stressful investment. If bitcoin investment is as easy as you think, i believe everybody would have invested in it.so holding bitcoin for a longer term is not as easy as you think, bitcoin investment require patience and high risk tolerance .

I completely agree that buying Bitcoin is much easier than to hold which of course that is where patience and others necessarily good Bitcoin investment approach should be considered and this includes planing or having a long term commitment in mind because Bitcoin is not a quick and get rich scheme, investment money has to be discretionary income .

No doubt about Bitcoin investment not being risk free and talking about the risk tolerance I will not say it requires high risk tolerance because every one is expected to understand their risk tolerance level and only invest as they can tolerate because you saying it requires high risk tolerance might pass a negative feedback to certain person mean while you are only expected to according to your own risk tolerance level without struggling.
I can definitely agree with you, every investment should be done according to their risk tolerance, people sometimes take risks beyond their capacity due to excessive excitement, but this is never reasonable. And especially in the case of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is a long-term process, so no work should be done here due to excessive excitement, emotion or greed, it is necessary to think realistically, and keep a long-term continuity mindset.

If you want to get effective results from Bitcoin, you must move forward with the right decisions, you must prepare the necessary things, because this is a long-term journey and if you are weak in any aspect of this journey, that matter can bring disaster for you. That is, you must prepare all the necessary things, including all the necessary funds and a strong source of income.

Of course, you have to do everything according to your ability and capacity, no decision can be made that can cause you loss, keep investing any amount according to your ability through regular DCA and keep holding consistently, Bitcoin will achieve a much bigger level than everyone expects at the right time.
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Bitcoin investment is not as easy as you think it maybe because some newbies may think that it is something they may get into and make quick profit within a short period of time . Bitcoin investment is not a risk free investment since it is not a risk free investment. Even if you are doing DCA it doesn't mean it is easy with a good plan you may end up doing it wrongly or even investing more than your discretion there by making it a problematic and stressful investment. If bitcoin investment is as easy as you think, i believe everybody would have invested in it.so holding bitcoin for a longer term is not as easy as you think, bitcoin investment require patience and high risk tolerance .
Why are you scared? Bitcoin investment is risky, but not difficult. When you are not educated about investment, investment is a bit complicated for you. But if you are educated and can plan your investment and take the right steps, then investment is definitely easy.

When you start investing with basic knowledge, it may seem risky and difficult for some new investors, but with time they will get used to it and think it is easy. Everything in the world is difficult when you are not educated, everything in the world is easy when you are educated. That is, before learning about something, it is difficult, but after learning it is easy. So I cannot say that Bitcoin investment is very difficult and very risky. Rather, you can reduce that risk and complexity by educating yourself. Encourage newbies to invest in Bitcoin, do not be afraid.











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Take note that you don't needs to analyze the market as a Bitcoin investor, just buy once your discretionary income is available because the price of Bitcoin now is still very cheap comparing to how much it might be in ten to twenty years time from now, so why analyzing?
 
And secondly, their is nothing as a short term investor, it's either you are a long term investor or a trader that buys with the intention of selling for minimal gains in a very short time interval, so in my own opinion, those people that buy and sold their Bitcoin just because it appreciate in value are not investors, they are traders that sold for minimal gains.

Finally, when it comes to investment in Bitcoin, the best way to go about it is to think only long term because the way Bitcoin is wired, you can only reap the full dividend of your investment when you buy and hold for a very long period of time, not minimal gains that wouldn't have any significant impact on your financial status.

Different people see it differently, but yeah, generally, BTC is seen as the true store of value to be hodled for a long time, 4-5 years at minimal, to see good results, accumulating little by little.

Other coins cannot be used for the same logic simply because they are not as stable.
I can agree with you that bitcoin is a true is store of value with potential when you buy and hold for long term. But I disagree with you that 4 to 5 years holding is not enough for a real bitcoin investors who truly know what they they are doing, rather bitcoin holding should be from 5 to 10 years or more to me in massive profits.

As an investor you should be holding from 5 to 10 years not 4 to 5 years, however just like you said anyone who's holding for 4 to 5 years is still in the right direction, everyone has a target and as soon as they meet that target they don't go further anymore.
But let me clear something if you are holding from 2 to 4 years you are just a trader and not an investor some people call it short term investors but is simply trading, we all know how Bitcoin growth is and you are just planning on accumulating to holding for just 2 to 4 years and still call yourself an investor no you are a trader and not an investor.
One of the reason why they always tell investors to invest what they can afford to lose is because if you use money that you don't really need to invest you can hold it for years without caring about it but if you use money you want to use to settle something important you can't hold for long, so as an investor you should be ready to hold for 5 to 10 years without it being a big deal.
The thing is that, some investors don't know that holding for a much longer time is the game changer especially the newbies because the thought some of them come with in the initial stage is to cash out quick, some think that holding for 2-3 years is the number of years required, they might not be traders as per say but they are probably ignorant about the fact that the number of years they are having in mind to hold is too short for them to expect something significant, is only except  a more knowledgeable investor comes to enlighten them about the duration to which they have to holding before some of them might come to that realization. As for some of us here, it is was during conversations and engagement that some persons were enlightened about the fact that they needed to hold for a much longer time.











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It always give me an impression that those people analyzing the market is trading Bitcoin. Since there's really no point for them to do that especially if their intention is to buy and hold Bitcoin for long term.

There's no need for us to be strategic since Bitcoin investment is easy. Maybe what they need to pay attention at first is on how they can execute DCA strategy so well so that they can apply this method on their many phase of accumulation. If they can work everything well without thinking about pumps and dumps then there's good chance that everything will be easy and they are stress free on their Bitcoin investment.
Bitcoin investment is not as easy as you think it maybe because some newbies may think that it is something they may get into and make quick profit within a short period of time . Bitcoin investment is not a risk free investment since it is not a risk free investment. Even if you are doing DCA it doesn't mean it is easy with a good plan you may end up doing it wrongly or even investing more than your discretion there by making it a problematic and stressful investment. If bitcoin investment is as easy as you think, i believe everybody would have invested in it.so holding bitcoin for a longer term is not as easy as you think, bitcoin investment require patience and high risk tolerance .
For high risk tolerance, Bitcoin investors are always recommended to set a strategy of accumulation from discretionary income and through the DCA method. The price fluctuation situation that we keep ourselves in a fixed position and continue to buy regardless of the price. In times of inflation where the expenditure is more than the income, it is not easy to invest in Bitcoin regularly and even in the long term it can be very difficult.

Proper planning and patience are important for investing and I think if you have a sure source of income and discipline in spending money, long-term investment can be much easier for you. Suppose if your discretionary income is $100 at the end of the week you should plan in advance what you should do. If you set aside $60 a week for Bitcoin accumulation and amount of $240 per month it would be a very small amount for someone and it can be a large amount for someone. This may seem like a small amount to most investors but with long term investment habits and income growth, increasing your buying can give you a larger holding. If you set aside remaining $40 of discretionary income for an emergency fund you can go a long way in long term investing and make investing more easier.

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I think Is normal for a newbie to make analysis, You mean to tell me that you just walked in into this space and start investing without making analysis to be able to know the potential of the coin you're investing in? Is obvious that the awareness that bitcoin has created is even more than enough reason to prove to us that bitcoin has a good potential in the future yet this is not going to be enough for most people so they would want to see for themselves,  Depending on what their intentions is. if it's in other to invest for short term profit I think the risk is on them, But is always advised to go for Long term investment to avoid stressing ourselves.

Maybe for those who only think about opportunities to seek profits in a short time (traders) tend to analyze with technical analysis, utilizing price fluctuations. In my opinion, we should focus more on increasing income in order to accumulate Bitcoin, because when income increases, discretionary income will also be greater which in turn will have a good impact on Bitcoin accumulation and of course when having a fixed income allows us to be more consistent to accumulate in the long run.

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June 20, 2025, 10:18:03 PM
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It always give me an impression that those people analyzing the market is trading Bitcoin. Since there's really no point for them to do that especially if their intention is to buy and hold Bitcoin for long term.

There's no need for us to be strategic since Bitcoin investment is easy. Maybe what they need to pay attention at first is on how they can execute DCA strategy so well so that they can apply this method on their many phase of accumulation. If they can work everything well without thinking about pumps and dumps then there's good chance that everything will be easy and they are stress free on their Bitcoin investment.

Some try to find details where there shouldn't be any - accumulating BTC properly is the most stress-free activity there can be on the market currently, other coins and stuff may be unstable and not worth it, but with BTC - it all clicks.

Bitcoin is a very nice asset no doubt but using the word stable for it, doesn't suit or define what Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is not firmly fixed I mean it is obvious that it varies with value in every second perhaps the word potential should be used in place of this stable because Bitcoin is not really or not stable ( not stable just like other coins ) but that doesn't mean one can compare shitcoin with Bitcoin, the potential is what differentiate them.

Yes, when someone is accumulating Bitcoin properly using a method that is convenient and having a long term mindset will definitely make them not to worry about any market  trend rather they will take advantage when necessary.











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June 20, 2025, 10:59:54 PM
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It always give me an impression that those people analyzing the market is trading Bitcoin. Since there's really no point for them to do that especially if their intention is to buy and hold Bitcoin for long term.

There's no need for us to be strategic since Bitcoin investment is easy. Maybe what they need to pay attention at first is on how they can execute DCA strategy so well so that they can apply this method on their many phase of accumulation. If they can work everything well without thinking about pumps and dumps then there's good chance that everything will be easy and they are stress free on their Bitcoin investment.

Some try to find details where there shouldn't be any - accumulating BTC properly is the most stress-free activity there can be on the market currently, other coins and stuff may be unstable and not worth it, but with BTC - it all clicks.

Bitcoin is a very nice asset no doubt but using the word stable for it, doesn't suit or define what Bitcoin is because Bitcoin is not firmly fixed I mean it is obvious that it varies with value in every second perhaps the word potential should be used in place of this stable because Bitcoin is not really or not stable ( not stable just like other coins ) but that doesn't mean one can compare shitcoin with Bitcoin, the potential is what differentiate them.


First it will be better we don't beat around the bush about Bitcoin being stable or unstable, the true fact is that Bitcoin is not stable in price, Bitcoin is very unstable and that is one good thing about Bitcoin, this unstable attitude of Bitcoin is why we still invest in Bitcoin because we believe even when a dip happens it will surely rise again, the confidence we have in that, is the reason why we are bold enough to keep accumulating and holding for long term without fear.
sotelorene I think you are confusing yourself here and that will lead to confusing newbies, shit coins are stable in nature they only have a little force of unstable coin at some weeks of it listing after that it becomes stable and stop's growing and that is why people always lose there money investing in them, but Bitcoin is just unstable and it continues being unstable and that is why investing in it is more safe than shitcoins, Bitcoin unstable nature means it will continue growing, I want all newbies to understand this.

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