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August 21, 2025, 01:51:14 PM
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We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

We are still bullish at this point so there's no point for other if they have fear in this current situation.

Those slight correction indicates that they should buy more Bitcoin, because if it happens that they stop and got afraid to see more dump there's provably a high chance that they might regret their decision for not buying when opportunity like this exist in the market.

So instead of thinking about negative matters about current movement better for investor to continue doing DCA and continue to accumulate then aim for long term.

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August 21, 2025, 02:02:48 PM
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Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

Many folks have much expectation from Bitcoin, forgetting that fluctuation is inevitable. The last time Bitcoin made a move like this it went down to $103,000 and came back to $115k and later broke a new ATH. A month ago, the current price was an ATH, and its obvious we will soon break a new ATH before the year runs out.

Every time is always a good time to buy Bitcoin. This year alone should have changed the doubtful and ignorant minds to not joke with Bitcoin investment. It is what it is man.

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August 21, 2025, 02:42:29 PM
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It happens, I think Bitcoin goes with dollar exchange, and we all know that dollar rate is not stable. Soon one dollar will amount to 2000 in the local market and we all know this might affect Bitcoin market, some persons might be afraid to even buy. But I think the most important thing is to buy the Bitcoin then monitor the market.
No, no, this is a terrible way to go about your Bitcoin investment, because monitoring of the market are for traders that thought they can outsmart the market blindly, which is the real reason you will hear that traders are losing money in the market, but they will never admit to their losses, moreover why putting yourself under tension that will not end well due to short term thinking. Investment in bitcoin is mostly suited for long term, so their is no need in monitoring the market as you said because their is no benefit added to it, plus the tension you will get due to volatility.
It is not only traders who monitor the market and monitoring the market doesn't make you a trader unless such investor is regularly cheeking on the market to see when there is an increase so they can sell out, there are investor who monitor the market to accumulate aggressively or accumulate more Bitcoin when there is a dip and still continue with their DCA strategy so will say you are wrong by saying that monitoring the market is for traders.

You are right as an investor it is not even advisable to be monitoring the market because you have no business with the market since long term is your target and monitoring the market can be so tempting especially to those who don't know or are not convinced within themselves that they are investing to hold for long term and there is no way this category of people will see a slight uptrend in the market that they will not take it and if they also see a Dip they will also be tempted to also sell even at loss because they doubt the potential of Bitcoin and once you doubt the potential of Bitcoin you won't go far in your investment no matter the discretionary you have because you will be selling steady.
I think if it was possible, people will not want to be monitoring the situation of the market, sometimes if it was possible for them to control the market they wound have done that, but the most important thing is buying and accumulating Bitcoin and getting started no matter what it would be the challenge, and trying to hodl for a full circle, and buying and holding aggressively with a desired goal of increasing our discretionary amount to be able to buy and accumulate more on a consistent basis, buying and holding bitcoin just have to deal with patience, when there is not patience I don’t think it would be possible to invest and hodl for a long term. And if it was possible for me to lock my bitcoin somewhere I Wouldn’t have access to it until after my desired accumulation goal of hodl for a long term after buy and accumulating that I would have done.

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August 21, 2025, 03:06:53 PM
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Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

Many folks have much expectation from Bitcoin, forgetting that fluctuation is inevitable. The last time Bitcoin made a move like this it went down to $103,000 and came back to $115k and later broke a new ATH. A month ago, the current price was an ATH, and its obvious we will soon break a new ATH before the year runs out.
I try not to get bothered about the extent of bitcoins volatility most expecially when it happens in an interval of a shorter period of time. either within a week we see bitcoin going all the way up above $118k and then expect that we are getting to a new ATH and then it later did not happen, i do not look at that as an issue because it actually is not an issue. volatility is more of a constant in the cause of an investors journey and rather than alowing it come in the way of your investment, it is only best to ignore it and focuse on a more real thing which is how best to build your bitcoin stack.

what is the bases for the statement that bitcoin is not ready to top the chart yet? for all i can see, we have seen bitcoin constantly going higher and higher for so long a time with a very little retardation which is even insignificant considering that it does not always stay long before bitcoin goes back to becoming bullish again. a slight correction of less than $8k which on a normal does not take a long time for bitcoin to do two times of that is not something that a real bitcoin investor should be worried about. relative to where we are headed to, we still have a long way to go and so, whatever looks like some sort of correction should never be a deterent to what we stand to see in the future if we keep buying and holding.
Every time is always a good time to buy Bitcoin. This year alone should have changed the doubtful and ignorant minds to not joke with Bitcoin investment. It is what it is man.
sure. there is a lot of take away from how far bitcoin has come this year and the fact that even when people speculated that bitcoin was going to dump, bitcoin still proves them wrong. rather than allowing short term volatility stand as an hinderance to buying bitcoin, it is better to continue buying bitcoin as much as one can buy because in the nearest future when bitcoin must have gotten really bullish, the wasted opportunity that must have gone can never be recoveredd back.




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August 21, 2025, 03:40:19 PM
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Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

Many folks have much expectation from Bitcoin, forgetting that fluctuation is inevitable. The last time Bitcoin made a move like this it went down to $103,000 and came back to $115k and later broke a new ATH. A month ago, the current price was an ATH, and its obvious we will soon break a new ATH before the year runs out.

Every time is always a good time to buy Bitcoin. This year alone should have changed the doubtful and ignorant minds to not joke with Bitcoin investment. It is what it is man.
Bitcoin will always be volatile, this fluctuation is actually its natural nature, there is nothing to panic about in the short-term price.
Because look at history, Bitcoin has always been volatile, but ignoring all the volatility, Bitcoin has always been valuable in the long term.
And that is why Bitcoin has been able to grow so big now, which has the potential to grow even bigger in the future.
In fact, those who believe in Bitcoin and can hold it for the long term will have the opportunity to achieve future success.
This is actually a matter of faith, because history proves that after every big fall, a new ATH has come, so you should never panic during any fall, you should try to buy more at this time.

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August 21, 2025, 04:11:19 PM
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It is not only traders who monitor the market and monitoring the market doesn't make you a trader unless such investor is regularly cheeking on the market to see when there is an increase so they can sell out, there are investor who monitor the market to accumulate aggressively or accumulate more Bitcoin when there is a dip and still continue with their DCA strategy so will say you are wrong by saying that monitoring the market is for traders.
True, investors also monitor the market, but in my own view there is still a thin line between how a trader and a long term investor do it. Traders usually check the market because every small move matters to their positions which is not reliable, while most long term investors do not need to sit on the screen often since their focus is more on long term than hours or days. I would even say too much monitoring as an investor can become dangerous, because you might start acting on emotions and end up getting short term mentality, maybe considering taking profit or selling when you did not plan to....
You remind me of where I came from in my Bitcoin journey, when I was constantly glued to the charts, watching and hoping that the price pumps so that I can evaluate how much profits have been added to my investment. Sincerely, it was a real pain and a terrible thing to do for a long term investor and it compounds the temptation to sell unplanned. Why stress yourself monitoring the market when you are investing in Bitcoin to hold for a long term have no business looking at the chart always and even those that want to buy more will be better of following the DCA method that is not price dependent. This will take away the stress of looking for the perfect bottom to buy which often lead to mistakes.


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August 21, 2025, 04:36:57 PM
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You're right; some people still struggle to understand because they want to make quick profit. I saw a post where someone claimed that he doesn't know if he is investing in Bitcoin or not because he doesn't understand how the market works; he has been investing for two years and hasn't noticed any changes, which demonstrates how greedy the person is. Bitcoin doesn't work like that; you have to be patient and the more you invest, the more you may expect a positive outcome. You can't just hold onto it for two, three, or four years and expect a significant profit in return.
what was he expecting after investing in Bitcoin for a short time period of 2years. Anything less than 5 years is a short term plan for me and to start expecting any significant profits from holding Bitcoin for a short time is absolutely wrong. People with this mindset of investing for less than 5 years should be regarded as traders that are only interested in making quick profits by buying bitcoin only to later sell it for cheap profits. Around last year,I gave an advice to a close friend of mine to start investing in Bitcoin and hold for a period of 5-10 years, he accepted but he wasn't too comfortable with the time frame of holding for 5-10 years that's it is too long for him to hold . Because he wanted quick profits,he ignored my advice went ahead and invested hugely into a popular shitcoin called PEPE. After investing into PEPE (another pump and dumb coin),some weeks past and the shitcoin started dumping until he eventually loss 90% of his funds. After receiving this negative result due to his own ignorance,on his own he started investing in Bitcoin for the long term. I think anybody that isn't comfortable on investing in Bitcoin for the long term is free to exit anytime .  I don't have that time to start begging someone to invest in Bitcoin, I will simply allow him to taste the bitter side of investing in a shitcoin Grin maybe Experience will teach him right if he cannot listen to advice to invest in Bitcoin.


I agree with you. Because investing in Bitcoin for less than 5 years is a short-term investment. Due to the high and low price, there is a higher chance of loss than profit in a short-term investment. Even if there is some people make  profit in short time investment but it is much less compared to long-term profit. In the bull run of 2013, the price of Bitcoin  was aprox $1100 and then it came down to $200. Those who sold in a short time lost money. But those who invested for more than 5 years at that time made many times more profit. A similar situation was seen during the bull run of 2017. And if we talk about the current time. In the 2022 bear market, the price was aprox $15,500. But in 2025, it has now reached an all time high. So, of course should invest in Bitcoin for a long time, for at least more than 4 years. The longer we can invest by following DCA from discretionary income, the more profit we can get. Now the trend of investing for a long time has now taken an institutional form. For example, MicroStrategy has so far HODLing 629,376 Bitcoins. And it is constantly buying Bitcoins. So there is no other option to invest in Bitcoin for a long time. And shitcoin is a fraudulent coin. It actually fools people and takes the money of the investors. In the pump and dump era, some people may gain, but most people lose everything. We should stay away from all kinds of fraudulent coins outside of Bitcoin.
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August 21, 2025, 05:58:23 PM
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We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

We are still bullish at this point so there's no point for other if they have fear in this current situation.

Those slight correction indicates that they should buy more Bitcoin, because if it happens that they stop and got afraid to see more dump there's provably a high chance that they might regret their decision for not buying when opportunity like this exist in the market.

So instead of thinking about negative matters about current movement better for investor to continue doing DCA and continue to accumulate then aim for long term.

The current bitcoin price dump from 123K to around 112K is an opportunity to buy more bitcoin and those who didn't buy before this is the golden chance to accumulate bitcoin. Even if someone has already invested in bitcoin, they can buy more and accumulate more bitcoins. I do not think we would be able to see these prices again as fomo for the Interest rates cuts is to kick in soon and then the price may show some parabolic moves. After the Interest rates, we may anticipate QE but the chances for it are less at the moment.

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August 21, 2025, 06:06:36 PM
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The current bitcoin price dump from 123K to around 112K is an opportunity to buy more bitcoin and those who didn't buy before this is the golden chance to accumulate bitcoin. Even if someone has already invested in bitcoin, they can buy more and accumulate more bitcoins. I do not think we would be able to see these prices again as fomo for the Interest rates cuts is to kick in soon and then the price may show some parabolic moves. After the Interest rates, we may anticipate QE but the chances for it are less at the moment.
This is definitely a good opportunity to buy. But we don't need to be overly excited or panicky at this time. Such ups and downs in the market will happen again and again. So you should not take any action thinking this is the last time that can hinder your continuity or face financial problems or you have chosen to invest more than prudent money. If you already have the funds to be aggressive then you can be aggressive at this time. If not then focus on consistency because this is not the last chance. I would also like to warn you not to take any inappropriate action by being too emotional. Remember the fundamentals and try to maintain consistency within your means.

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August 21, 2025, 06:47:25 PM
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It is not only traders who monitor the market and monitoring the market doesn't make you a trader unless such investor is regularly cheeking on the market to see when there is an increase so they can sell out, there are investor who monitor the market to accumulate aggressively or accumulate more Bitcoin when there is a dip and still continue with their DCA strategy so will say you are wrong by saying that monitoring the market is for traders.
True, investors also monitor the market, but in my own view there is still a thin line between how a trader and a long term investor do it. Traders usually check the market because every small move matters to their positions which is not reliable, while most long term investors do not need to sit on the screen often since their focus is more on long term than hours or days. I would even say too much monitoring as an investor can become dangerous, because you might start acting on emotions and end up getting short term mentality, maybe considering taking profit or selling when you did not plan to....
You remind me of where I came from in my Bitcoin journey, when I was constantly glued to the charts, watching and hoping that the price pumps so that I can evaluate how much profits have been added to my investment. Sincerely, it was a real pain and a terrible thing to do for a long term investor and it compounds the temptation to sell unplanned. Why stress yourself monitoring the market when you are investing in Bitcoin to hold for a long term have no business looking at the chart always and even those that want to buy more will be better of following the DCA method that is not price dependent. This will take away the stress of looking for the perfect bottom to buy which often lead to mistakes.


I can relate to what you are saying, a lot of us passed through that stage of watching charts every day and thinking that is the way to grow as an investor. At the end it only brings more pressure and like you said, it pushes one to sell when there was never any plan to sell....The real growth comes when you stop chasing the perfect entry and just keep stacking, whether through DCA or seizing the dips when they come. Bitcoin was never meant for people to be glued to charts 24/7, it is for long term conviction. Once you understand that, the noise of daily moves becomes meaningless.
We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.
This should be a lesson for investors that are waiting for the perfect time to buy Bitcoin, they should know that it's a volatile asset. If you're on it for the long term it is better not to worry about the current price before you buy, your focus should be that on the long term we will always see ATH. This is why I never get tired of talking about DCA method of accumulation, it helps you to be focused and consistent in continuously buying despite the dumps and pumps along the journey.

Today's ATH will surely be dip sometime in the future and this is the more reason why you should buy periodically from your discretionary funds or when you get your lump sum.
Exactly. Waiting for the perfect time to buy Bitcoin is what makes a lot of people miss out. Bitcoin is volatile by nature, that’s how it works. Today’s ATH will one day look like just another dip, and if you’re constantly trying to time the market, you’ll never get ahead. The key is understanding that these ups and downs are normal, and they actually create opportunities for those who are patient.

For me this is why DCA makes so much sense. You buy regularly, no matter what the price is doing. You remove the stress, you avoid emotional mistakes, and over time your holdings grow without you having to guess or panic. DCA isn’t just about buying Bitcoin, it’s about learning patience, consistency, and how to play the long game properly. People who stick with it quietly end up in a much stronger position when the next ATH comes around.
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August 21, 2025, 07:27:16 PM
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Even better to stay in bitcoin 4-10 years or longer.

Sure the first couple of years can seem enticing, yet it is going to be difficult to buy bitcoin in the future for the prices that were available in the past two years, whether a guy front loaded or just continued to buy on a regular basis through out the last two years.

Exactly my point. If you can make over 100% profit in 2 years, imagine what will happen when you hold for at least 5 years, even better if you've been accumulating for all those years. That's why I believe the person is lying. I still don't understand how, despite all these years, people still fail to realise that bitcoin is a long-term asset. They've seen how it has grown over the years, yet people still want quick returns from Bitcoin. This is a reason people fall for scams, Ponzi schemes and memecoins.

So I guess people would get an idea about growth of Bitcoin each year since 2010 https://www.statmuse.com/money/ask/bitcoin-yearly-returns-2009-to-2025-chart

Those stats shows that Bitcoin became more great asset as many years pass by although there's a bear situation happen I guess that time would be a good time to accumulate more Bitcoin if there's situation like that happen.
You are correct about the continuous rise of bitcoin price over time which is the more reason why it is advised that every investor should develop the habit of holding for a long time. Bear markets too happen as in dips or market corrections due to bitcoin volatility. One is supposed to understand the term known as bitcoin cycles. If you study the bitcoin cycle closely, you will realise that the bear market don't just happen, it is a stage in the bitcoin cycle. There are 4 stages of bitcoin cycle and these happens within an unfixed duration of 4 years or more. Going by the price increase you tried to explain, it doesn't just happen anyhow, it happens more significantly after every 4 years through the stages of Accumulation, Growth, bubble and Crash .

Halving is the prime trigger of this market cycle.

After halving bitcoin market attracts more adapters and then upcoming year would be full of bull run which may end in bubble region.

1st halving in 2012  --> $1200 happened in 2013
2nd halving in 2016 -->  $20k happened in 2017
3rd halving in 2020 -->  $63k happened in 2021
4th halving in 2024 -->  Bubble again will happen 2025

For convenient of understanding this, we may see the cycle from bubble or halving or crash.

This is very apt and easier to understand and it will help us not to lay baseless claims. If you also check through the link you would discover that more significant rise occurs at the 4th year.

Looking for quick gains is risky and unsustainable, we see lots of people fall down or got broke because they fall from scams. So better for people to avoid looking such quick rich scheme and better pay more attention on accumulating more Bitcoins.
Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme neither a Ponzi schemes.
This is simply why most persons usually end up disappointed and scammed of their hard earned money, coz they approach Bitcoin with the wrong mindset. I mean they happen to invest in Bitcoin today and start expect profit that same day. That is simply a Ponzi scheme mentality, coz Bitcoin investment doesn't provide for instant profit.  It is a long-term investment scheme that requires patience, research, and discipline. That is why one can only benefit from Bitcoin if he/she  can shift his/her mindset from Bitcoin being a “fast money” to “long-term investment sheme.”

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This is simply why most persons usually end up disappointed and scammed of their hard earned money, coz they approach Bitcoin with the wrong mindset. I mean they happen to invest in Bitcoin today and start expect profit that same day. That is simply a Ponzi scheme mentality, coz Bitcoin investment doesn't provide for instant profit.  It is a long-term investment scheme that requires patience, research, and discipline. That is why one can only benefit from Bitcoin if he/she  can shift his/her mindset from Bitcoin being a “fast money” to “long-term investment sheme.”
This basically happens when you invest outside of your prudent money or if you do not have basic knowledge about investing. That is why basic knowledge and alternative finance are at the top of the basic aspects of investing. Even instead of calling such people investors, you should call them traders. Because the mentality of investors must be long-term. If someone claims to be an investor in a short-term plan, then he does not know the definition of an investor. Rather, he is confusing himself with investors.











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August 21, 2025, 08:31:30 PM
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We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

We are still bullish at this point so there's no point for other if they have fear in this current situation.

Those slight correction indicates that they should buy more Bitcoin, because if it happens that they stop and got afraid to see more dump there's provably a high chance that they might regret their decision for not buying when opportunity like this exist in the market.

So instead of thinking about negative matters about current movement better for investor to continue doing DCA and continue to accumulate then aim for long term.

So many People forget that volatility is part of the game, and these dips are exactly where long-term positions are built. If you believed in Bitcoin at higher prices, no reason to lose conviction now. DCA’ing through uncertainty has always been the move. Zoom out and stay focused."
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The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.

As long as the method remains comfortable for you, it's fine to continue using it, especially if it's to continue accumulating Bitcoin until you have more Bitcoin in your personal wallet. I'm also quite comfortable with this method because it's not too difficult to maintain as long as I have a regular income that can be used to buy Bitcoin. This is especially true now that anyone still accumulating Bitcoin can earn a little more due to the price correction in the past two days. So you can continue to use this method if it doesn't make things difficult for you in any way because the most important thing is to feel comfortable when doing something without having to sacrifice anything else.

You're right sir, DCA strategy is the most convenient strategy used in accumulating bitcoin for the long term. When applying DCA you don't have to wait until you have a specific amount of cash before you can start buying bitcoin rather you can buy bitcoin for as low as 10$ weekly or monthly from your discretional income. This strategy can equally be used by both low coiner and No coiner in accumulating bitcoin respectively. Bitcoin investment has become a lot easier to invest and buy for the long term through DCAing so far an investor has a regular flow of income to be buying consistently.

The DCA can only be the most convenient method or strategy if you are doing it properly because if you are it won't be convenient for you because even as we speak now there are people that are struggling with the DCA method which is the best strategy because of lack of proper application of it and this lack of proper application, I realized it is sometimes caused by lack of discipline and lack of good management skill because if you are not disciplined and don't have a good management skill it becomes very difficult to utilize the DCA method even when they have a good source of income that they can get good discretionary from.











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August 21, 2025, 09:30:14 PM
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We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

We are still bullish at this point so there's no point for other if they have fear in this current situation.

Those slight correction indicates that they should buy more Bitcoin, because if it happens that they stop and got afraid to see more dump there's provably a high chance that they might regret their decision for not buying when opportunity like this exist in the market.

So instead of thinking about negative matters about current movement better for investor to continue doing DCA and continue to accumulate then aim for long term.
And this is the mindset Bitcoin users should have: fluctuations are part of Bitcoin's nature. So, when dips and corrections occur, there's no need to panic. Understanding the potential for DCA is the best way to navigate it all, and to keep buying, as this presents a good opportunity that will ultimately increase in value when Bitcoin's price rises again.
It's best not to pay too much attention to the market if you still feel panic when a dip occurs, which is actually only temporary. You should also keep buying to stay focused on your DCA goals and your long-term goals, because in the long run, Bitcoin will always be profitable.


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August 21, 2025, 09:41:04 PM
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We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

We are still bullish at this point so there's no point for other if they have fear in this current situation.

Those slight correction indicates that they should buy more Bitcoin, because if it happens that they stop and got afraid to see more dump there's provably a high chance that they might regret their decision for not buying when opportunity like this exist in the market.

So instead of thinking about negative matters about current movement better for investor to continue doing DCA and continue to accumulate then aim for long term.
And this is the mindset Bitcoin users should have: fluctuations are part of Bitcoin's nature. So, when dips and corrections occur, there's no need to panic. Understanding the potential for DCA is the best way to navigate it all, and to keep buying, as this presents a good opportunity that will ultimately increase in value when Bitcoin's price rises again.
It's best not to pay too much attention to the market if you still feel panic when a dip occurs, which is actually only temporary. You should also keep buying to stay focused on your DCA goals and your long-term goals, because in the long run, Bitcoin will always be profitable.
This is an important point, if someone decides to invest in Bitcoin through the DCA strategy, then he must continue to invest completely ignoring all market fluctuations, he should not look at the market but should only focus on buying Bitcoin, Bitcoin volatility is a normal and temporary thing, so there is no reason to worry about it, the most important thing is to maintain your DCA plan and long-term goals without paying much attention to small market fluctuations, then over time this patience and consistency will eventually bring profitable results.

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August 21, 2025, 10:03:32 PM
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Even better to stay in bitcoin 4-10 years or longer.

Sure the first couple of years can seem enticing, yet it is going to be difficult to buy bitcoin in the future for the prices that were available in the past two years, whether a guy front loaded or just continued to buy on a regular basis through out the last two years.
Exactly my point. If you can make over 100% profit in 2 years, imagine what will happen when you hold for at least 5 years, even better if you've been accumulating for all those years. That's why I believe the person is lying. I still don't understand how, despite all these years, people still fail to realise that bitcoin is a long-term asset. They've seen how it has grown over the years, yet people still want quick returns from Bitcoin. This is a reason people fall for scams, Ponzi schemes and memecoins.

Many of us can see how it can be so tempting to cash out during circumstances that we should probably just continue to buy.. and to make it through our first cycle or two of buying.. .. so then once we get through our buying period, we still might have another period of perhaps 4 years where we are not buying nor selling, and then at some point later down the road we might transition into selling some of our stash in a kind of streaming way. 

The exact ways of dealing with our BTC holdings would depend on a variety of circumstances, including if a guy is continuing to work or maybe he is cutting back on his work or changing kinds of work and maybe anticipating transitioning into either living off his bitcoin or partially living off his bitcoin once enough time had passed that he is feeling good about his holdings and that he is not going to damage himself by starting to draw from his BTC holdings.

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So I guess people would get an idea about growth of Bitcoin each year since 2010 https://www.statmuse.com/money/ask/bitcoin-yearly-returns-2009-to-2025-chart

Those stats shows that Bitcoin became more great asset as many years pass by although there's a bear situation happen I guess that time would be a good time to accumulate more Bitcoin if there's situation like that happen.

Looking for quick gains is risky and unsustainable, we see lots of people fall down or got broke because they fall from scams. So better for people to avoid looking such quick rich scheme and better pay more attention on accumulating more Bitcoins.

The idea is correct including the ideas about how to deal with the years that the price seems negative rather than positive.  We are not going to know in advance if the year is going to be negative or positive, even though we have seemed to have 3 years up and 1 year down and then repeating the same pattern.. at least so far.   

Another thing is that of course from any chart there is a starting reference time that is selected, so in that above linked chart, it is going by the calendar years, which may or may not be a good measuring point for any particular individual to get synchronized with the calendar year versus his own start year.   It may be better to start in a year that the BTC price is either going down or it is largely flat versus when it is going up, and it is not clear if waiting is a good choice either.. especially for someone without coins and he is not going to really know where he is at in terms of whether the bitcoin price is going to go up, down or sideways.

I don’t know why some people find it difficult to understand the difference between Bitcoin and Shitcoin or other coins, Bitcoin is far different from any other coins because it is the only investment that can give you peace of mind without no doubt, it’s not that some people don’t understand the difference, some understand but a quick profit will not let them know the truth, there are still people who still doesn’t trust Bitcoin because of their experience wasting their money and effort to buy shitcoin.

It’s very difficult to convince people sometimes when it comes to investing in Bitcoin, especially when you tell them that the investment is a long term investment, they don’t want to hear the long term investment because their goal is to make a profit in a quick profit, as a good investor don’t think of short term profit, always add a good plan to your investment before you start investing.
People do not always invest in Bitcoin because of the negative perception of Bitcoin, or some people have different reasons for not investing here.
To gain practical experience on why people do not invest despite knowing about Bitcoin, I conducted a survey with some people and asked some people - there I asked them why they do not want to invest in Bitcoin?
Many people gave many types of answers. After analyzing the answers, I found two types of things.
Some people's answers were exactly that they do not want to save for their next generation, they want to enjoy what they are earning in their life by enjoying it. Their explanation is that since Bitcoin has to be invested in the long term, then they will get profit from it after a certain year, they do not want to take the risk of waiting so long.
And some people think that if all the countries of the world ban Bitcoin, it will become an unusable currency, so they may lose their wealth. That is, they have not yet gained faith in Bitcoin, they refuse to trust it. They think that they will not be able to use it at the moment they need it. Their question is that if they earn money in life and cannot use it at any moment, then what is the point of saving it there?
😃😃 What a strange way of thinking people have!

I would imagine that if we are going to survey anyone about their ideas in regards to bitcoin and why they do or do not invest into it, then we have to get some assessment regarding their level of knowledge about bitcoin first.. .and then go from there.

Surely folks who do not invest in bitcoin are way less informed about bitcoin than those who do, and I am not even claiming that people who are invested in bitcoin are greatly informed about what bitcoin is, beyond number go up technology.

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I agree with you. Because investing in Bitcoin for less than 5 years is a short-term investment.

having a timeline in bitcoin that is 4 years or less is trading not investing.

Having a time line of 4-10 years is presumptively short term investing.. as long as the reasons of getting out might be age or health.. otherwise we might consider 4-10 years as trading too, especially if the person gets in to bitcoin and then sells all of his bitcoin rather than having a longer term plan.

We can quibble about these terms.. yet it might not be important... guys can do what they want, but sometimes they think they are investing when they are really trading .. like long term trading rather than short term trading.

Due to the high and low price, there is a higher chance of loss than profit in a short-term investment. Even if there is some people make  profit in short time investment but it is much less compared to long-term profit. In the bull run of 2013, the price of Bitcoin  was aprox $1100 and then it came down to $200. Those who sold in a short time lost money. But those who invested for more than 5 years at that time made many times more profit. A similar situation was seen during the bull run of 2017.

Usually if a guy started investing in bitcoin towards the top, he would have had ended up bring ing down his average cost per BTC a lot if he continued to buy for something like 5 years, or even if may be he bought for 3 years on a weekly basis with a combination of DCA and perhaps lump sum buying during times that he might come across extra money. He could also buy on dips, though it may not necessarily make much difference if he might be regularly buying... and just riding out the wave... so even a guy who came into bitcoin towards the top at $1,100, he may could have had an average cost per BTC around $400 to $600 by the time 2017 came.  Similar a guy who might have had started buying bitcoin around $19k in 2017 might have had still ended up with an average cost of BTC that is around $7k to $8k by the time he gets through 2020.

And if we talk about the current time. In the 2022 bear market, the price was aprox $15,500. But in 2025, it has now reached an all time high. So, of course should invest in Bitcoin for a long time, for at least more than 4 years. The longer we can invest by following DCA from discretionary income, the more profit we can get. Now the trend of investing for a long time has now taken an institutional form. For example, MicroStrategy has so far HODLing 629,376 Bitcoins. And it is constantly buying Bitcoins. So there is no other option to invest in Bitcoin for a long time. And shitcoin is a fraudulent coin. It actually fools people and takes the money of the investors. In the pump and dump era, some people may gain, but most people lose everything. We should stay away from all kinds of fraudulent coins outside of Bitcoin.

It is difficult to project exactly into the future, but if we look at the 200-WMA, we will see that it is around $51.7k right now, so a guy who invested into bitcoin at a steady rate over 4 years would have an average cost per BTC that is right around the same as the 200-WMA.  Of course the longer he is in, it is quite likely that the 200-WMA will continue to rise faster than his average cost per BTC.. .. and we can go back to some DCA calculators and verify that a guy who invested over the past 8 years would likely have an average cost per BTC that is below $14k.  So time investing helps, but also attempting to be somewhat aggressive in the earlier years of investing likely helps somewhat too.

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August 21, 2025, 10:21:24 PM
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We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

We are still bullish at this point so there's no point for other if they have fear in this current situation.

So instead of thinking about negative matters about current movement better for investor to continue doing DCA and continue to accumulate then aim for long term.

So many People forget that volatility is part of the game, and these dips are exactly where long-term positions are built. If you believed in Bitcoin at higher prices, no reason to lose conviction now. DCA’ing through uncertainty has always been the move. Zoom out and stay focused."

Especially as long as we do not imagine, we must keep the right mindset in buying Bitcoin, and we should take every opportunity to buy deep when the market corrects occasionally. If money is not always available, then definitely bring some money from the emergency fund and participate in the deep purchase, because I have seen many whale investors collect a lot of money for this deep purchase. However, I think the DCA method is the best, if you invest in Bitcoin according to the DCA method, it is definitely possible to participate in every purchase and increase your Bitcoin holding.
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The DCA method for me is the most subtle method to accumulate bitcoin no matter the price. If an individual decides to lump sum then is basically dependent on his level of income, but for the DCA method it’s not dependent on any category, both the high and low income earners seeking a long term strategy of continuous and consistently accumulation of bitcoin and hodl, are most certainly and likely dependent to go by this method to accumulate and hodl. The DCA allows you the most stability and consistency in the market which for me you don’t depend on the price of bitcoin before you accumulate. I don’t also see any reason stopping DCA.

As long as the method remains comfortable for you, it's fine to continue using it, especially if it's to continue accumulating Bitcoin until you have more Bitcoin in your personal wallet. I'm also quite comfortable with this method because it's not too difficult to maintain as long as I have a regular income that can be used to buy Bitcoin. This is especially true now that anyone still accumulating Bitcoin can earn a little more due to the price correction in the past two days. So you can continue to use this method if it doesn't make things difficult for you in any way because the most important thing is to feel comfortable when doing something without having to sacrifice anything else.

You're right sir, DCA strategy is the most convenient strategy used in accumulating bitcoin for the long term. When applying DCA you don't have to wait until you have a specific amount of cash before you can start buying bitcoin rather you can buy bitcoin for as low as 10$ weekly or monthly from your discretional income. This strategy can equally be used by both low coiner and No coiner in accumulating bitcoin respectively. Bitcoin investment has become a lot easier to invest and buy for the long term through DCAing so far an investor has a regular flow of income to be buying consistently.

The DCA can only be the most convenient method or strategy if you are doing it properly because if you are it won't be convenient for you because even as we speak now there are people that are struggling with the DCA method which is the best strategy because of lack of proper application of it and this lack of proper application, I realized it is sometimes caused by lack of discipline and lack of good management skill because if you are not disciplined and don't have a good management skill it becomes very difficult to utilize the DCA method even when they have a good source of income that they can get good discretionary from.
It seems you don't understand the word 'convenient' because the DCA is the most convenient method or strategy for accumulating bitcoin because it gives you the opportunity to accumulate bitcoin in your own time, and you won't be under pressure if you are using the DCA method to accumulate bitcoin. In your post, you were making it known to investors that if they don't apply the right application when they are using the DCA strategy to accumulate bitcoin, they can struggle to accumulate bitcoin, and it has nothing to show if the DCA method is not the most convenient method.

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August 21, 2025, 11:42:09 PM
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We are seeing Bitcoin’s price bottom at a level that would have been an all time high 2 months ago. That is bullish.

Bitcoin isn’t ready to top for this cycle yet, but it’s possible it has. I think it is still a market to buy though. The value is getting high to be taking on big new positions, but I don’t see any reason to stop DCA’ing.

We are still bullish at this point so there's no point for other if they have fear in this current situation.

Those slight correction indicates that they should buy more Bitcoin, because if it happens that they stop and got afraid to see more dump there's provably a high chance that they might regret their decision for not buying when opportunity like this exist in the market.

So instead of thinking about negative matters about current movement better for investor to continue doing DCA and continue to accumulate then aim for long term.
And this is the mindset Bitcoin users should have: fluctuations are part of Bitcoin's nature. So, when dips and corrections occur, there's no need to panic. Understanding the potential for DCA is the best way to navigate it all, and to keep buying, as this presents a good opportunity that will ultimately increase in value when Bitcoin's price rises again.
It's best not to pay too much attention to the market if you still feel panic when a dip occurs, which is actually only temporary. You should also keep buying to stay focused on your DCA goals and your long-term goals, because in the long run, Bitcoin will always be profitable.
This is an important point, if someone decides to invest in Bitcoin through the DCA strategy, then he must continue to invest completely ignoring all market fluctuations, he should not look at the market but should only focus on buying Bitcoin, Bitcoin volatility is a normal and temporary thing, so there is no reason to worry about it, the most important thing is to maintain your DCA plan and long-term goals without paying much attention to small market fluctuations, then over time this patience and consistency will eventually bring profitable results.

In addition, the reason why investors terms to look at the market price and still panic over it is because they tend to sell their investment sooner and whenever they challenges despite the fact that they said to be  in a long-term term investment, they keep eyeing the market price, but the truth about bitcoin investment Ina long-term of three to four cycles is that you avoid selling any amount of your bitcoin no matter how the market price fluctuates, since bitcoin is meant to be invested for a long-term and not short term.
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