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[SmartCharpa]

Exactly, tt is wise to be accumulating and holding while still keeping money and preparing when there is Dip. The Dip always bring a better and good advantage of accumulating Bitcoin but it's not advisable to wait. Sometimes the reason people wait is because of lack of knowledge, unavailability of funds to be used in accumulating and thinking whether they are making the right decision or not but I consider Bitcoin as a good investment regardless of others.

What’s the point of saving money to buy at the dip when there is already an opportunity to use that money and continue buying regardless of the market conditions? You should use the money to buy with your normal DCA instead of saving cash to time the market. To me, you are missing out on more opportunities to buy regularly with that same amount you want to use when the market goes down.

You will confuse some newbies with your words, they will assume that the only opportunity to invest is when there is a dip, and many people will end up chasing quick gains because they will try to time the market and buy at the right moment, and there is no such thing in long term investing. They will only end up losing money or waiting for a long time, wasting their time if the market does not dip.

[red4slash]

You really want an easy out by presuming that "whales" or even "rich people" have it easy when it comes to investing in bitcoin?  Sure, it is true that the lower the level of discretionary income then the more organized and disciplined and focused the guys have to be, yet poor people can still pass up rich people who might also not be focused or even realize the value of bitcoin accumulation. 

From my perspective it seems lazy to blanketedly proclaim that rich people have it easy when it comes to bitcoin investing.

In terms of finance maybe the rich or the pope has a greater chance but for investing in bitcoin we are not only talking about capital but the initial intention to invest and of course the strategy in investment.
The success of investing in bitcoin is not only determined by the amount of wealth because in this case even though the quantity of their wealth can be tested but the quality in investing in bitcoin can be no better than poor people who only invest $10 or $20 but they are consistent in doing so.

Sometimes the initial mistake of some people is always fixated on wealth before starting an investment but this for me is wrong because even if we are rich but when there is no desire to invest in bitcoin then it will not be better than a poor person who tries to invest $10-$100 every week.

Wealth will not guarantee one's intention to invest in bitcoin but those who have invested in bitcoin regardless of being poor will have the intention to grow their investment.

[IceLincoln]

While the DCA serves as the best strategy for beginners to begin there accumulation process in Bitcoin investment,  it also serves and still remains the best for me even for any kind of investor or there level. You know, while you accumulate Bitcoin gradually and/consistently,  it doesn't stop you from buying from the DIP, or buying a lump sum if you have the financial ability to do that, or you have saved up some extra cash for such buys. So, wether we are able to combine the Dip and the DCA, or the DCA and lump sum, whichever way, the DCA remains the best and easy to go strategy to accumulate Bitcoin and investors must know rhis

Don't engage yourself in combination of strategy be it lump sum or buy the dip, if DCA is the strategy you know is best and convenient for your accumulation journey just like you said, then you should only stick to it than making combination. What is the point of making combination when the DCA strategy has already given you what you need?

Personally, I don't see any need of mixing strategy. I would rather Stick to one to be sure of what I'm doing because combination of strategy sometimes could cause confusion in your accumulation journey. You should know that even without combination of strategy you can still achieve your target don't make things difficult for yourself.

You can’t tell people not to combine strategies. Ultimately, each investor is free to choose the approach that best suits them. Yes, We do encourage people to go for DCA as it seems to be the most effective and sustainable approach to accumulating bitcoin but there are times or situations where an investor might have extra money and might want to lump sum immediately depending on his decision as to what he’s perceived to be a good or favourable time. He can still continue with his DCA afterwards.
Also, Practicing DCA consistently, you’ll be opportuned to buy at the dip from time to time without actively chasing the dip.
If you look at it holistically you’ll find that you can’t only use DCA to buy bitcoin, a good mix with DCA as the primary strategy is best.

[JayJuanGee]

In my opinion Lump sums outperform DCAs in terms of profit, but only if you time the market correctly, which is frequently an issue because timing the market accurately is difficult most of the time.

If you are timing the market, then you are not lump summing.  You are buying the dip.

There is a difference.

The mere fact that you are using a lot of money does not turn your trying to time the market into lump sum, when you are trying to buy the dip.

The idea of lump summing is if you already have the money or you just received it or you have reallocated the money from somewhere else. You have three options  1) buy right away, 2) defer by time (DCA) and/or 3) defer by price (buy the dip that might not happen).

Many normal people do not have money all of a sudden that they can invest, so they can just invest as their money comes in.  Many times DCA applies to buying bitcoin whenever the money comes available, and there is no deferring since the BTC is being bought (more or less) as soon as the money has become available.

So it's better to DCA regularly than try to time the market, which usually fails. DCA provides piece of mind because you do not rush to buy (FOMO) or panic sell when prices fall. It's similar to an automation bot that buys when prices spike or fall.

When you start waiting for a specific price, you're no longer performing DCA; you're a market timer. There is nothing wrong with market timing; the concern is that you may miss out on dips that never appear or freeze when the drop does occur.

The more bitcoin that guys accumulate, then it might start to make sense for them to hold back more money rather than buying bitcoin as soon as the money comes available.  Each guy has to figure out his own style and/or his own boundaries... and surely it seems that the longer that any guy has been accumulating bitcoin, then the longer time that he has had to be able to figure out how to spend time studying bitcoin and cashflow management, so that he would be able to become better at both buying bitcoin and also managing his cashflows.

[Different patterns]

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The DCA strategy happens to be the most suitable method for buying bitcoin especially for those that are still new to bitcoin investment. Those that have low discretionary income may be finding it difficult to lump sum, so with the DCA strategy it becomes possible for them to start investing using any amount of discretionary income that they may have available. Also the stress of always trying to time the market to get a perfect entry point isn't there with the DCA strategy. An investor can buy bitcoin at any price without having to wait for a price decline before buying. For this , the DCA strategy should be recommended to all beginners and those that may like to start out small.

With DCA, newbies can start out small or large, and DCA is not necessarily only for newbies, even though it works quite well for newbies to build good habits of buying bitcoin regularly, persistently and consistently.  DCA also works for more experienced investors.  One of the great things about DCA is that it can be adjusted to the level of the investor's preferences as money comes available and also as their preferences might change from time to time when they are balancing out other expenses that they have that might even vary from week to week.

I share same view, that DCA is the one of most practical and popular strategies people use whenever it comes to bitcoin investment, especially for people that are new in bitcoin space, the reason why is widely to recommended to newbie’s because it simplifies the investment process and also encourages the newbie’s with habit of accumulation consistent rather than speculation, when use DCA strategy it solves the problem by encouraging investors to be buying bitcoin at regular intervals regardless of market price, another advantage of using DCA strategy is flexibility, because investors can start with any amount of their choice they can comfortably afford, whether large or small, this make it a strategy that can be maintained for long term without interruptions other financial responsibilities.

[MainIbem]

I share same view, that DCA is the one of most practical and popular strategies people use whenever it comes to bitcoin investment, especially for people that are new in bitcoin space, the reason why is widely to recommended to newbie’s because it simplifies the investment process and also encourages the newbie’s with habit of accumulation consistent rather than speculation, when use DCA strategy it solves the problem by encouraging investors to be buying bitcoin at regular intervals regardless of market price, another advantage of using DCA strategy is flexibility, because investors can start with any amount of their choice they can comfortably afford, whether large or small, this make it a strategy that can be maintained for long term without interruptions other financial responsibilities.

Another reason why It's highly recommended for newbies is to help control their emotions during dips, most newbies find it tough during such period which mostly leads to wrong decision making out of panic but with the DCA they'll see the dip as an opportunity than a disappointment, although more investors asides newbies are serious with the DCA than other strategies cause it ensures consistency which is very sustainable for long-term investment.

[Futurexxx]

Another reason why It's highly recommended for newbies is to help control their emotions during dips, most newbies find it tough during such period which mostly leads to wrong decision making out of panic but with the DCA they'll see the dip as an opportunity than a disappointment

Controlling your emotions have nothing to do with either you are accumulating through the dca accumulating strategy or not, it's more of investing with what you can afford to lose or investing with your discretionary income, because if you are not accumulating Bitcoin from your discretionary income, which is a fund you can afford to lose, you will likely panic, and selling prematurely anytime their is a strong dip in the market because it's what you cannot afford to lose.
But if you are investing with what you can afford to lose, nothing will shake you because you know that even in the worst possible scenario, you will still be fine, unlike when you invest with what you cannot afford to lose.

[alankasman]

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Another reason why It's highly recommended for newbies is to help control their emotions during dips, most newbies find it tough during such period which mostly leads to wrong decision making out of panic but with the DCA they'll see the dip as an opportunity than a disappointment, although more investors asides newbies are serious with the DCA than other strategies cause it ensures consistency which is very sustainable for long-term investment.

This strategy is very helpful for beginners because they don't yet fully understand the basics of how to control their emotions. When they finish accumulating but the price suddenly declines again, panic becomes even more difficult. Using the DCA strategy may give them more freedom and direction in their actions. It can help them avoid panicking in market situations ultimately leading to calmer and more organized decisions about future activities.

Therefore, in making decisions we must have more knowledge to avoid mistakes whether investing in short-term or long-term patterns. Because by using the DCA strategy system some people today, both beginners and big investors always use this system when accumulating so that the decisions they make are very precise and there are no mistakes in carrying out Bitcoin accumulation so what is needed in doing it is a consistent attitude that we must have to be truly able to carry out sustainable investments with a long-term pattern.

[samadam007]

You can’t tell people not to combine strategies. Ultimately, each investor is free to choose the approach that best suits them. Yes, We do encourage people to go for DCA as it seems to be the most effective and sustainable approach to accumulating bitcoin but there are times or situations where an investor might have extra money and might want to lump sum immediately depending on his decision as to what he’s perceived to be a good or favourable time. He can still continue with his DCA afterwards.
Also, Practicing DCA consistently, you’ll be opportuned to buy at the dip from time to time without actively chasing the dip.
If you look at it holistically you’ll find that you can’t only use DCA to buy bitcoin, a good mix with DCA as the primary strategy is best.

Saying "a good mix with DCA as the primary strategy is best." Is supposed to be your personal opinion, not fact.
The whole purpose of DCA is to remove the need to decide when the market is favourable.Once an investor start adding other strategies, they are moving away from the discipline that makes DCA effective in the first place.
Also, while DCA might result in buying during dips occasionally, it should be as a result of consistent investing, not a reason to combine DCA with attempts to time the market.
For long term Bitcoin accumulation, a simple and consistent DCA plan is enough. There is no need to complicate it by trying to guess when the market offering the best buying opportunities

[Showlove01]

Exactly, tt is wise to be accumulating and holding while still keeping money and preparing when there is Dip. The Dip always bring a better and good advantage of accumulating Bitcoin but it's not advisable to wait. Sometimes the reason people wait is because of lack of knowledge, unavailability of funds to be used in accumulating and thinking whether they are making the right decision or not but I consider Bitcoin as a good investment regardless of others.

What’s the point of saving money to buy at the dip when there is already an opportunity to use that money and continue buying regardless of the market conditions? You should use the money to buy with your normal DCA instead of saving cash to time the market. To me, you are missing out on more opportunities to buy regularly with that same amount you want to use when the market goes down.

You will confuse some newbies with your words, they will assume that the only opportunity to invest is when there is a dip, and many people will end up chasing quick gains because they will try to time the market and buy at the right moment, and there is no such thing in long term investing. They will only end up losing money or waiting for a long time, wasting their time if the market does not dip.

Did you actually read my post thoroughly? Because if you do your reply would have been a different or an addition instead of saying a different thing. I didn't say one should keep saving money without accumulating no but rather what I said was that it is good to be accumulating and holding while still preparing or keeping some discretionary in case Dip comes. If an investor doesn't prepare for Dip how do you think they will be able to take advantage of the market when the time comes? I wonder if you are actually replying my post or someone's because you saying off...

[Gallar]

In my opinion Lump sums outperform DCAs in terms of profit, but only if you time the market correctly, which is frequently an issue because timing the market accurately is difficult most of the time. So it's better to DCA regularly than try to time the market, which usually fails. DCA provides piece of mind because you do not rush to buy (FOMO) or panic sell when prices fall. It's similar to an automation bot that buys when prices spike or fall.

When you start waiting for a specific price, you're no longer performing DCA; you're a market timer. There is nothing wrong with market timing; the concern is that you may miss out on dips that never appear or freeze when the drop does occur.

Yes, basically, any buying strategy is clearly good when applied to Bitcoin. Because, if held long-term, any strategy will certainly be very good. So, whether you choose the lump sum or the DCA technique, I think it's up to each individual and depends on your financial situation. If you can afford to buy Bitcoin all at once, then do so; there's nothing wrong with that.

If you can't afford to buy Bitcoin all at once,, then the solution is to buy using the DCA technique. So,, the bottom line is, there's no need to worry. The most important thing is to hold it long-term. I believe that's the most important thing in Bitcoin investment. However, I don't recommend waiting for the price to drop before buying if you use the lump sum technique. I believe buying immediately when you have the money is better.

[Stormisover]

In my opinion Lump sums outperform DCAs in terms of profit, but only if you time the market correctly, which is frequently an issue because timing the market accurately is difficult most of the time. So it's better to DCA regularly than try to time the market, which usually fails. DCA provides piece of mind because you do not rush to buy (FOMO) or panic sell when prices fall. It's similar to an automation bot that buys when prices spike or fall.

When you start waiting for a specific price, you're no longer performing DCA; you're a market timer. There is nothing wrong with market timing; the concern is that you may miss out on dips that never appear or freeze when the drop does occur.

Yes, basically, any buying strategy is clearly good when applied to Bitcoin. Because, if held long-term, any strategy will certainly be very good. So, whether you choose the lump sum or the DCA technique, I think it's up to each individual and depends on your financial situation. If you can afford to buy Bitcoin all at once, then do so; there's nothing wrong with that.

If you can't afford to buy Bitcoin all at once,, then the solution is to buy using the DCA technique. So,, the bottom line is, there's no need to worry. The most important thing is to hold it long-term. I believe that's the most important thing in Bitcoin investment. However, I don't recommend waiting for the price to drop before buying if you use the lump sum technique. I believe buying immediately when you have the money is better.

Even if a newbie can afford to buy all at once it will be more encouraging to say that they should buy with DCA because they are less experienced, going all at once even while they can afford it for newbies might not really make sense especially when they will see the market going down after they must have bought, don't forget that they are new and has less experience of the market but DCA newbies are put in place where they are gaining experience and slowly investing their money and their confidence will be growing as well, going all at once which is Lump sum is good but for a newbie DCA should be adopted primarily.

[@nn@_pen9]

That's right, and this is what I mean. I say that because we have to think about ourselves as individuals so we don't hinder our basic goal, which is to start investing by accumulating Bitcoin when the price is favorable for us namely a market decline.

I don't think waiting for a dip in price is a good strategy for those that are trying to accumulate bitcoin for a long term, because why waiting for a dip in price can make you lose opportunity to accumulate bitcoin. We also have to realize that sometimes the dip does not come, rather it keeps increasing,  so if you had accumulated when you should have, you should be in profit. Waiting for a dip in price will.be better for those that have already achieved their target in the accumulation of bitcoin, then it's okay for you to wait for a dip before purchasing.

You seem absolutely certain, saying this. "Sometimes, a price drop does not occur instead, the price continues to rise". In my opinion, this kind of mindset is truly very misleading for those who are just starting to learn about and accumulate Bitcoin. It would be better to share something informative rather than just spouting off like that, wouldn't it? You should point out that Bitcoin is highly volatile therefore, beginners looking to invest in it need to understand this fact unlike the misleading statements you made.

And the second piece of misleading information, Waiting is not a bad thing when it comes to accumulating our investment assets. In my opinion, regardless of your Bitcoin accumulation strategy whether it involves waiting or buying immediately the bottom line is that both approaches are profitable if we hold the asset for the long term. Every investor has their own style when it comes to accumulation; the most important thing is to remain consistent in accumulating those assets.

[Agbam]

Exactly, tt is wise to be accumulating and holding while still keeping money and preparing when there is Dip. The Dip always bring a better and good advantage of accumulating Bitcoin but it's not advisable to wait. Sometimes the reason people wait is because of lack of knowledge, unavailability of funds to be used in accumulating and thinking whether they are making the right decision or not but I consider Bitcoin as a good investment regardless of others.

Everyone who waits has their reasons, and when asked by others, the most common reason is that they don't have the money to directly accumulate Bitcoin. However, some are still skeptical about Bitcoin and are afraid to buy regularly or accumulate as an investment for their future. I'm quite confident that those who dare to accumulate significantly at the current price will reap greater profits, as Bitcoin still has the potential to rise further in the coming year. Therefore, I also encourage those around me to continue buying Bitcoin and never be afraid to buy Bitcoin at low prices, as Bitcoin won't always stay low.

Why wait,?! unless an individual has not yet decided to invest in bitcoin or has not yet heard about bitcoin I see no reason why you would wait since the system was built that you can buy with the least possible amount, even if it’s 5-10$ you can get started.

Sometimes I like to think that if you’re not able to sort out atleast a $10 discretionary income then your priority shouldn’t be investing yet. You have to work to improve your income and financial situation. Once you have small discretionary amounts available on a regular basis then you can start investing.

[Bigjoe33]

In my opinion Lump sums outperform DCAs in terms of profit, but only if you time the market correctly, which is frequently an issue because timing the market accurately is difficult most of the time.

If you are timing the market, then you are not lump summing.  You are buying the dip.

There is a difference.

The mere fact that you are using a lot of money does not turn your trying to time the market into lump sum, when you are trying to buy the dip.

The idea of lump summing is if you already have the money or you just received it or you have reallocated the money from somewhere else. You have three options  1) buy right away, 2) defer by time (DCA) and/or 3) defer by price (buy the dip that might not happen).

Many normal people do not have money all of a sudden that they can invest, so they can just invest as their money comes in.  Many times DCA applies to buying bitcoin whenever the money comes available, and there is no deferring since the BTC is being bought (more or less) as soon as the money has become available.

Of course, DCA has always been the best strategy to accumulate Bitcoin even though sometimes you can buy the DIP and/or lump sum.
Timing tye market is a delay tactics and it isn't good for a serious investor because you might not really grow your portfolio. And inorder to achieve a good DCA strategy involvement. we should be able to carry out a proper income allocation and management and Budget our income so we don't misuse our income. Since we can also adjust our buys yo whenever out income comes or when we necessarily have discretionary, then we can as well buy using the DCA when anytime out income comes in regardless of the fact that we haven't bought for some time or with a big money

[Hardyrobust]

Another reason why It's highly recommended for newbies is to help control their emotions during dips, most newbies find it tough during such period which mostly leads to wrong decision making out of panic but with the DCA they'll see the dip as an opportunity than a disappointment

Controlling your emotions have nothing to do with either you are accumulating through the dca accumulating strategy or not, it's more of investing with what you can afford to lose or investing with your discretionary income, because if you are not accumulating Bitcoin from your discretionary income, which is a fund you can afford to lose, you will likely panic, and selling prematurely anytime their is a strong dip in the market because it's what you cannot afford to lose.
But if you are investing with what you can afford to lose, nothing will shake you because you know that even in the worst possible scenario, you will still be fine, unlike when you invest with what you cannot afford to lose.

If you can be able to control your emotion especially during a dip it will help you not to panic and then sell your bitcoin. The main reason why most investors end up selling there bitcoin when they are not planning to is because they failed to control there emotions and they take impulsive decisions by selling, sometimes they do sell at loss . So it is important for an investor to be able to control there emotions in other not take the wrong decision as regards there bitcoin investment during bearish season.

[Crakryptvest]

You can’t tell people not to combine strategies. Ultimately, each investor is free to choose the approach that best suits them. Yes, We do encourage people to go for DCA as it seems to be the most effective and sustainable approach to accumulating bitcoin but there are times or situations where an investor might have extra money and might want to lump sum immediately depending on his decision as to what he’s perceived to be a good or favourable time. He can still continue with his DCA afterwards.
Also, Practicing DCA consistently, you’ll be opportuned to buy at the dip from time to time without actively chasing the dip.
If you look at it holistically you’ll find that you can’t only use DCA to buy bitcoin, a good mix with DCA as the primary strategy is best.

Not at all but it must be what works efficiently, the DCA method allows us to buy at all time without minding anything, personally I support the combination of strategies and it should be the way you explained it, for me DCAing without aggressiveness as we go along is sometime I don't like, although I understand that aggressiveness has to do with the level of our discreationary income if I'm not mistaking, as for the lump sum, I don't think there should be an exception to that, as individual investors we have our targets and for us to get close or reach our target different steps had to be taken to get there, there nothing wrong in lump suming as long we have the amount available at anytime.

[Merit.s]

Saying "a good mix with DCA as the primary strategy is best." Is supposed to be your personal opinion, not fact.
The whole purpose of DCA is to remove the need to decide when the market is favourable.Once an investor start adding other strategies, they are moving away from the discipline that makes DCA effective in the first place.
Also, while DCA might result in buying during dips occasionally, it should be as a result of consistent investing, not a reason to combine DCA with attempts to time the market.
For long term Bitcoin accumulation, a simple and consistent DCA plan is enough. There is no need to complicate it by trying to guess when the market offering the best buying opportunities

There's no rule that say you must stick solemnly on DCA method of accumulation overtime till you reach your bitcoin target. Who told you that if you mix buying the dip or lump sum with your ongoing weekly DCA means you are not discipline and your regular weekly buying with your discretionary income wouldn't be effective on your bitcoin portfolio.

This is where newbies get it wrong. Using only one strategy which is DCA cannot outperform some one who's mixing buying the dip with his regular weekly DCA, because he will have the opportunity to buy bitcoin cheaper and in more quantity when the dip comes. This is why you should have plans to set up a reserve funds after setting up your emergency funds to enable you take advantage of the dip when it comes.

As a matter of fact, an investor that keeps his DCA ongoing and buy bitcoin at the dip with his reserve  funds and also lump sum whenever, he has extra funds that comes in will definitely reach his bitcoin target in a fast pace than an investor using only DCA method. It's just like you are climbing a ladder with only one leg and your friend is climbing with two legs who will reach the top of the ladder first. Your friend, of course.

[Frankolala]

Another reason why It's highly recommended for newbies is to help control their emotions during dips, most newbies find it tough during such period which mostly leads to wrong decision making out of panic but with the DCA they'll see the dip as an opportunity than a disappointment

Controlling your emotions have nothing to do with either you are accumulating through the dca accumulating strategy or not, it's more of investing with what you can afford to lose or investing with your discretionary income, because if you are not accumulating Bitcoin from your discretionary income, which is a fund you can afford to lose, you will likely panic, and selling prematurely anytime their is a strong dip in the market because it's what you cannot afford to lose.
But if you are investing with what you can afford to lose, nothing will shake you because you know that even in the worst possible scenario, you will still be fine, unlike when you invest with what you cannot afford to lose.

If you can be able to control your emotion especially during a dip it will help you not to panic and then sell your bitcoin. The main reason why most investors end up selling there bitcoin when they are not planning to is because they failed to control there emotions and they take impulsive decisions by selling, sometimes they do sell at loss . So it is important for an investor to be able to control there emotions in other not take the wrong decision as regards there bitcoin investment during bearish season.

It's a norm for a brand new investor to panic when the dip comes but not to the extend of panicking and sell his bitcoin that he has accumulated. This is why brand new investors are advised to invest with their discretionary income and have a long term mindset with a Bitcoin target to enable them stay focus on buying and building their bitcoin portfolio overtime till they reach their bitcoin target irrespective of the price of bitcoin.

DCA is what you should focus on and how to increase your income in order to have more discretionary income to accumulate bitcoin ongoingly because that's the main purpose of investing in bitcion to accumulate as many bitcoin as possible for the future.

[Charcol]

Another reason why It's highly recommended for newbies is to help control their emotions during dips, most newbies find it tough during such period which mostly leads to wrong decision making out of panic but with the DCA they'll see the dip as an opportunity than a disappointment

Controlling your emotions have nothing to do with either you are accumulating through the dca accumulating strategy or not, it's more of investing with what you can afford to lose or investing with your discretionary income, because if you are not accumulating Bitcoin from your discretionary income, which is a fund you can afford to lose, you will likely panic, and selling prematurely anytime their is a strong dip in the market because it's what you cannot afford to lose.
But if you are investing with what you can afford to lose, nothing will shake you because you know that even in the worst possible scenario, you will still be fine, unlike when you invest with what you cannot afford to lose.

If we use the regular buying method, this method helps us reduce our emotions even if it does not make us wise or patient. Because naturally we are paying attention to regular purchases, so every time the price fluctuates, it will not force us to make new decisions. Because when a person has a plan in advance and buys regularly with his discretionary income, his fear, greed, price estimation and tendency to make sudden decisions are reduced.

It is not right to separate the regular buying method and discretionary income. Because regular purchases will be strong only when they are purchased from discretionary income.