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April 06, 2024, 09:40:58 AM
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That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.
Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
I agree with some of the opinions of other members here. There is a difference when you say it is luxury and high quality. High quality means you spend more money to buy goods with more uses and more comfortable use. Luxury means you spend more money to buy pride and prestige, not the actual value of an item in use.

If you buy a MacBook, it means you are buying a laptop with high quality compared to other laptops at a cheaper price. But if you buy a Macbook that is plated with gold, or a Macbook signed by a famous figure that costs dozens of times more than Macbooks on the market, you have bought luxury.

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April 06, 2024, 01:08:28 PM
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Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

People tend to spend a lot of money to buy a lot of things just for their needs, but sometimes those luxury to them could symbolize that they are wealthy or they afford that kind of thing or could be a trophy of achievement to them. But if you are the kind of person who seeks to have debt, buys expensive things to flex and will depreciation and you don't know any more where to seek your payment, I guess you are in the wrong mindset. People could tell those luxuries of course as branded or higher quality reasons too why most of people often to buy their products or even their services.

buying expensive things or food shows that a person has the ability to buy it, sometimes like I do, I just buy expensive things, especially in food if I know I deserve to buy it especially if I haven't had it yet tried since then, we can't say either because there are some people who just now experienced holding too much money or just now had an income, so I think it's okay to do it once in a while. The only thing that is not good about this kind of doing is that if you are doing it just to show that you have money or to brag about something, even though the truth is that there is none, especially today, people are proud of sharing their lives and achievements in social medias. We don't need to keep up with them especially if we experience struggles in life, it's better tto be practical and  allocate our money to more important things.

There are only two types of people in this world that we live in at this time: the luxurious person and the non-luxurious person. Maybe it's okay to buy a luxury that you want as long as you're happy and don't struggle to have it.

For me, luxury is good if you can afford it and you are happy. But it's not good to get a luxury that you are happy with, but the joy you feel is not full because you mean it monthly so that you can pay it in full until the very last month when it is paid off. It's hard because you get your luxury, but you're trying hard, and you're just forcing yourself to be at the level of people who can afford them.


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April 06, 2024, 02:47:17 PM
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I think the major reason behind that is the things we watch on social media and other  tv networks. These influencers actually play with our mind by showing only some minutes of their whole day they convince us to believe that their whole life revolves around the luxuries. This is never the case and we should not be impressed by these types of people.

Life is a balance between worries, sorrows, sadness etc. No one here is living a perfect life rather everyone is facing problems. We should focus on the strategy to solve the problem rather than working on creating a life with no problem. Luxury has no definition in my opinion it changes as your bank balance changes. It's a car which is driven without brakes.

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Off course poverty it self is a big problem that it hinders you from seeing far and confined you to a level, the poor always see those living a lugeriuous life as people who don't know what they are doing
Just as the writer has said there are environment you expose your self to that things begin to work well better for you
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April 06, 2024, 06:55:38 PM
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It is true, humans in general do not understand what desires are and what needs are. Many people would rather be poor in money than poor in style, sometimes income and expenses are not comparable. Buying luxury goods is not prohibited, just buy according to your needs because this is important to maintain financial stability, even if buying expensive goods is due to work obligations, in other words these goods are productive.

We should use our money wisely, buy things according to our needs, not just to maintain prestige / so that other people think we are capable even though in fact we are not, life is always full of falsehoods. Life is simple, just pursuing luxury becomes complicated, this is real.

There are lots of people who lives a simple life while they are in their home but buy expensive dresses and other materials when they go outside of their home so I think such people are not wealthy but they know that how to handle expenses and how to hide their financial state from others.

One cannot buy branded materials all the time if he does not have any amount therefore try to manage expenses and if one make a plan then he can also fulfil his dream as well as his needs will also be easily done. Most of the people are poor but they don't show such thing to the society because they shy for having such status but I think you can evaluate your skills to earn from different options.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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April 06, 2024, 07:10:34 PM
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Its hard to justify luxury in a purely working way only when rich does it start to make sense because one person only has so much time on their hands each day before they must sleep rest and wait to work the next day etc.

   Eventually if you are rich enough you can say my private Jet plane is essential to me its not even a luxury anymore and I wont argue in some cases.  Time is not a resource they can purchase any more of at any price hence any tool which can save time becomes worthwhile even while still expensive & across many normally luxury items;  thats justified logical thinking I'd agree with.

To some extent this whole altered product purpose is part of what makes capitalism I suppose.  If you are poor, if you have no fulltime job perhaps then you do have this time element which others while busy and maybe 'rich' are lacking.  Hence time to learn or somehow provide a time saving product is a possibility.  Maybe time is the ultimate real commodity and the rest is what we trade as a proxy for that, I've heard something very similar said by old rich businessmen I think.

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April 06, 2024, 08:24:39 PM
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Everyone does not want to end up experiencing a lot of problems and pressures in their lives, but sometimes they themselves trigger and cause new problems in their own lives through mindsets and habits that should not be done. Actually, there is nothing wrong in this because life is always about choices, but sometimes there are some people who create many factors that can trigger many problems, such as having a mindset and habits of luxury in living life, it is not wrong but it will be a problem if basically your financial situation is not supportive.

On the other hand believe me that when you always force something that moreover it has become a habit then clearly I will say that you will only experience a lot of pressure and will not be calm in living life, eliminate the habit of always luxuriating because the mindset and lifestyle like that will only make you trapped in a lot of problems and pressures such as getting into debt for forcing something that is actually beyond your ability, having a simple life is not as bad as you imagine.

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On the other hand believe me that when you always force something that moreover it has become a habit then clearly I will say that you will only experience a lot of pressure and will not be calm in living life, eliminate the habit of always luxuriating because the mindset and lifestyle like that will only make you trapped in a lot of problems and pressures such as getting into debt for forcing something that is actually beyond your ability, having a simple life is not as bad as you imagine.
IMO it depend on your point of view of all aspects because forcing yourself can be a pretty good thing but on the other hand it can actually be bad depending on what you want to feel or how our point of view is in forcing something.

For example in this case when we continue to try to force to support all the needs we have with work or all forms that will make it a positive thing and can even be in luxury at the end, such as investing or forcing to manage money well even though our income is small then I think it can be a positive thing for the future. But if we force ourselves just to look hedon and prioritize prestige without caring what we do and how much we spend, the most important thing is that our habit is fulfilled and the prestige we have is not reduced then indeed it could be a bad situation and this will actually make it difficult for you to navigate the harsh life like now in the end.

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There are lots of people who lives a simple life while they are in their home but buy expensive dresses and other materials when they go outside of their home so I think such people are not wealthy but they know that how to handle expenses and how to hide their financial state from others.

One cannot buy branded materials all the time if he does not have any amount therefore try to manage expenses and if one make a plan then he can also fulfil his dream as well as his needs will also be easily done. Most of the people are poor but they don't show such thing to the society because they shy for having such status but I think you can evaluate your skills to earn from different options.

I can see this in my environment, because there are some families like that, to the point that it even triggers gossip that is not true, like they think the family can have luxurious things because their jobs are not good or whatever, the point is that there are people who are prejudiced against families who have simple houses but they can have luxurious assets or property. In my opinion, it doesn't have to be like that, because I also want to be like that, living in a simple house but having lots of sophisticated assets and properties. It's also not good to be prejudiced against other people, it's better to just use the motivation as if he could have luxury goods so we can definitely have them if we really want them.

What you say is also true, it's true that they live in simple houses and have jobs or not much income, but they can own luxury branded goods or have high prices because they can manage their finances well. I myself don't really care about my appearance, I wear what I want and that makes me comfortable. There was also a situation where I went to a big mall with a simple appearance, and my friend whispered to me about how many other people were paying attention to my appearance because it may be simple or it may be environmentally unethical, but I don't mind it because I feel this is not detrimental to me. so I kept ignoring it. they don't support me anyway.

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April 07, 2024, 06:41:49 PM
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On the other hand believe me that when you always force something that moreover it has become a habit then clearly I will say that you will only experience a lot of pressure and will not be calm in living life, eliminate the habit of always luxuriating because the mindset and lifestyle like that will only make you trapped in a lot of problems and pressures such as getting into debt for forcing something that is actually beyond your ability, having a simple life is not as bad as you imagine.
IMO it depend on your point of view of all aspects because forcing yourself can be a pretty good thing but on the other hand it can actually be bad depending on what you want to feel or how our point of view is in forcing something.

For example in this case when we continue to try to force to support all the needs we have with work or all forms that will make it a positive thing and can even be in luxury at the end, such as investing or forcing to manage money well even though our income is small then I think it can be a positive thing for the future. But if we force ourselves just to look hedon and prioritize prestige without caring what we do and how much we spend, the most important thing is that our habit is fulfilled and the prestige we have is not reduced then indeed it could be a bad situation and this will actually make it difficult for you to navigate the harsh life like now in the end.

Yes I understand what you mean here which is that forcing something can be an action that will not be a problem but it depends on how the context is, if for example it leads to a situation that will only make our lives depressed such as having a low income but having glamorous living habits and lifestyles then obviously it will only make you feel depressed and have a life that is far from calm and also yes it depends on one's perspective on the context, but sometimes there are some people who are wrong in thinking where they make decisions without being based on common sense and rational points of view.

As I said that it depends on the context, if for example the purpose of their luxury leads to positive things such as buying luxury goods but with the aim of making it a high-value investment item and then selling it in the future then yes this can be said to be a smart strategy in accumulating money even though at first glance it looks like luxury. That is the problem, which is not uncommon these days we find quite a lot of people who have a glamorous life on social media but when we see them in the real world or in real life it turns out to be surprising that they have a financial situation that is quite concerning, and in some cases I even see that there are some of them who rent a luxury item when they want to go to an event, and I'm sure it's a life full of stress.

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April 07, 2024, 07:00:57 PM
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There are only two types of people in this world that we live in at this time: the luxurious person and the non-luxurious person. Maybe it's okay to buy a luxury that you want as long as you're happy and don't struggle to have it.

For me, luxury is good if you can afford it and you are happy. But it's not good to get a luxury that you are happy with, but the joy you feel is not full because you mean it monthly so that you can pay it in full until the very last month when it is paid off. It's hard because you get your luxury, but you're trying hard, and you're just forcing yourself to be at the level of people who can afford them.

Indeed, it is okay to buy a luxury that you dream of because I think everyone definitely wants luxury, especially now that technology is developing so much that everything is sophisticated. It's just that we need to consider whether we are mamou or not, because indeed we have to be confident and confident to be successful or be able to reach the point of financial freedom or wealth, but being too self-confident is also not good, hopefully we can look at ourselves or look in the mirror, what we have to do , adjust our abilities, don't force yourself too much to keep working hard, every now and then we need to appreciate ourselves, such as pampering ourselves by buying what we want, as long as we can afford it and it doesn't get us into problems that can last in the long term.

Working hard is a must because everyone definitely has dreams that must be achieved, but don't let us focus so much on working hard that we lose track of time and neglect our health, everything needs to be considered carefully. Don't just take actions that will get you into trouble. Everything is stable and based on our own abilities.

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April 07, 2024, 07:45:50 PM
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I think the major reason behind that is the things we watch on social media and other  tv networks. These influencers actually play with our mind by showing only some minutes of their whole day they convince us to believe that their whole life revolves around the luxuries. This is never the case and we should not be impressed by these types of people.

Life is a balance between worries, sorrows, sadness etc. No one here is living a perfect life rather everyone is facing problems. We should focus on the strategy to solve the problem rather than working on creating a life with no problem. Luxury has no definition in my opinion it changes as your bank balance changes. It's a car which is driven without brakes.

You speck wisely because these influencers that we do see on social media always engage in debt and fake lives. Some of them you even have a better chance of survival and a higher source of income than them, but they will be showing you more luxurious things on social media that they can also not afford.
 
Because most of what they do on social media is based on sponsorship, so if the company that is sponsoring them stops sponsoring them, you will not hear anything again from them. That is when you will see a drastic downfall for them because all those things are also some sources of advertisements, and after they dissipate, the company that they advertise paid them, which the money will be giving to the sponsor, and the sponsor is the one to pay the social media influencer. So, if you look deeply, you will find out that all of their lives will be based on debt and fake things. That is why seeing a social media influencer as a role model is the best mistake you will ever make in your entire life. 

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There are lots of people who lives a simple life while they are in their home but buy expensive dresses and other materials when they go outside of their home so I think such people are not wealthy but they know that how to handle expenses and how to hide their financial state from others.

One cannot buy branded materials all the time if he does not have any amount therefore try to manage expenses and if one make a plan then he can also fulfil his dream as well as his needs will also be easily done. Most of the people are poor but they don't show such thing to the society because they shy for having such status but I think you can evaluate your skills to earn from different options.
Those who can live a simple life of course they have good financial management and they will be able to buy goods that are of good quality so that they can appear luxurious in front of other people and people don't know that they only have a small income but they can manage it well .

For some people who have an income that is only enough for their needs, of course it will be very difficult to buy luxury goods all the time, but if they have good financial management of course they will be able to collect the remaining money that is used for their needs and will be able to buy it when they need it. their money has been collected, but if the person cannot manage their income well they certainly cannot buy the luxury items they want and developing skills that can earn income would certainly be better because this will help us meet the needs we need and also the desire to own luxury goods like those who have a lot of income.
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Everyone does not want to end up experiencing a lot of problems and pressures in their lives, but sometimes they themselves trigger and cause new problems in their own lives through mindsets and habits that should not be done. Actually, there is nothing wrong in this because life is always about choices, but sometimes there are some people who create many factors that can trigger many problems, such as having a mindset and habits of luxury in living life, it is not wrong but it will be a problem if basically your financial situation is not supportive.

On the other hand believe me that when you always force something that moreover it has become a habit then clearly I will say that you will only experience a lot of pressure and will not be calm in living life, eliminate the habit of always luxuriating because the mindset and lifestyle like that will only make you trapped in a lot of problems and pressures such as getting into debt for forcing something that is actually beyond your ability, having a simple life is not as bad as you imagine.
You are right that there is nothing wrong if someone chooses to have a luxurious lifestyle but only if they can afford to do that and only if they know they have secured their future already but can still afford to have a luxurious life then they can go ahead for it, there is nothing better than having a secure future and a luxury life. However, it is a problem if a person is spending everything they earn on their life to make it luxurious while having no idea what they would do in the future if they don't have any income or anything and face financial problems.

The point is, that it is not wise to spend every penny you earn to buy the luxuries of life when you have no preparation for your future. So a person's priority should be to do something for their future first, and once they have done that, and can still afford to have luxuries, they can do it without any hesitation.

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Everyone does not want to end up experiencing a lot of problems and pressures in their lives, but sometimes they themselves trigger and cause new problems in their own lives through mindsets and habits that should not be done. Actually, there is nothing wrong in this because life is always about choices, but sometimes there are some people who create many factors that can trigger many problems, such as having a mindset and habits of luxury in living life, it is not wrong but it will be a problem if basically your financial situation is not supportive.

On the other hand believe me that when you always force something that moreover it has become a habit then clearly I will say that you will only experience a lot of pressure and will not be calm in living life, eliminate the habit of always luxuriating because the mindset and lifestyle like that will only make you trapped in a lot of problems and pressures such as getting into debt for forcing something that is actually beyond your ability, having a simple life is not as bad as you imagine.
You are right that there is nothing wrong if someone chooses to have a luxurious lifestyle but only if they can afford to do that and only if they know they have secured their future already but can still afford to have a luxurious life then they can go ahead for it, there is nothing better than having a secure future and a luxury life. However, it is a problem if a person is spending everything they earn on their life to make it luxurious while having no idea what they would do in the future if they don't have any income or anything and face financial problems.

The point is, that it is not wise to spend every penny you earn to buy the luxuries of life when you have no preparation for your future. So a person's priority should be to do something for their future first, and once they have done that, and can still afford to have luxuries, they can do it without any hesitation.
Your money your rules then this is something a very standard approach on things in life on which we know that this is something that you would really be needing to have that considerations.
Its impossible that you wont really be able to determine whether you are still spending just fine or already that over on what you are earning, it would really be that impossible that you cant be able to tell
into yourself on what you are spending and on what are your plans that would really be getting in line with it. Its not bad to live on a luxury life but of course just like on what you have said that it should really
be that in line on how much you are earning because if you are spending way more than on you do earn then this is where problem do starts to happen.

This is what you do make those purchases then it would really be that be better that having those considerations as always. You cant just that make yourself that
careless decisions because it would really be costing you.

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April 10, 2024, 08:16:55 AM
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That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.
Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
I agree with some of the opinions of other members here. There is a difference when you say it is luxury and high quality. High quality means you spend more money to buy goods with more uses and more comfortable use. Luxury means you spend more money to buy pride and prestige, not the actual value of an item in use.

If you buy a MacBook, it means you are buying a laptop with high quality compared to other laptops at a cheaper price. But if you buy a Macbook that is plated with gold, or a Macbook signed by a famous figure that costs dozens of times more than Macbooks on the market, you have bought luxury.
well, I think it's okay to buy expensive things for work. If you can afford it, and it can help you in your work, then it would be better to buy it.
IMO, buying things that we will use for the long term at a more expensive price and that we can afford, will be better than buying things that are cheap, but hinder us in the work we have. Apart from that, the bigger the workload we have, the more things we need, and usually the items we need are items that have high prices.
Apart from that, another example, when someone has a high position, they are given expensive facilities. This is to make them work optimally. So, I think it's a common thing. If people start to get jealous of that, then just ignore them.


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That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.
Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
I agree with some of the opinions of other members here. There is a difference when you say it is luxury and high quality. High quality means you spend more money to buy goods with more uses and more comfortable use. Luxury means you spend more money to buy pride and prestige, not the actual value of an item in use.

If you buy a MacBook, it means you are buying a laptop with high quality compared to other laptops at a cheaper price. But if you buy a Macbook that is plated with gold, or a Macbook signed by a famous figure that costs dozens of times more than Macbooks on the market, you have bought luxury.
well, I think it's okay to buy expensive things for work. If you can afford it, and it can help you in your work, then it would be better to buy it.
IMO, buying things that we will use for the long term at a more expensive price and that we can afford, will be better than buying things that are cheap, but hinder us in the work we have. Apart from that, the bigger the workload we have, the more things we need, and usually the items we need are items that have high prices.
Apart from that, another example, when someone has a high position, they are given expensive facilities. This is to make them work optimally. So, I think it's a common thing. If people start to get jealous of that, then just ignore them.

Yes, as long as we can afford it, buying expensive things is a good thing to do. Many people quite funny think that buying a Macbook or iPhone is a waste. But I've used quite a few computers and phones and I have to admit that cheap and mid-range computers and phones will never compare to the more expensive ones.
I once tested this with my mother, who is an elderly person and did not know the value of both. I gave my mother the mid-range Samsung phone and the Iphone 14 I was using. My mother is very satisfied with the smoothness that IOS brings and the luxurious appearance of IP14, she says it is very beautiful and smooth to use. Then I quoted the price of 2 products, and she said IP14 was too expensive but it was worth the money and worth using.

Let's not fool ourselves that we don't want to use expensive, luxurious things simply because our economic conditions don't allow it. At work, too, I am extremely comfortable working with expensive computers and remember the past of struggling to use old devices. Slowness, lag, and constant interruptions while working are what I have to experience when using an old, cheap computer.

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April 10, 2024, 10:47:19 AM
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That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.
Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
I agree with some of the opinions of other members here. There is a difference when you say it is luxury and high quality. High quality means you spend more money to buy goods with more uses and more comfortable use. Luxury means you spend more money to buy pride and prestige, not the actual value of an item in use.

If you buy a MacBook, it means you are buying a laptop with high quality compared to other laptops at a cheaper price. But if you buy a Macbook that is plated with gold, or a Macbook signed by a famous figure that costs dozens of times more than Macbooks on the market, you have bought luxury.

well, I think it's okay to buy expensive things for work. If you can afford it, and it can help you in your work, then it would be better to buy it.
IMO, buying things that we will use for the long term at a more expensive price and that we can afford, will be better than buying things that are cheap, but hinder us in the work we have. Apart from that, the bigger the workload we have, the more things we need, and usually the items we need are items that have high prices.
Apart from that, another example, when someone has a high position, they are given expensive facilities. This is to make them work optimally. So, I think it's a common thing. If people start to get jealous of that, then just ignore them.

I agree on your given example, I'm also a fan of buying high quality products especially if I can use it for a long time and I know I will be  needing it at work or to make my life easier with the things I do. For me, buying high quality products is considered as an investment especially if I can use it for my work. It is better for us to spend on the things that we know help us to be efficient and effective employees. Based on my observation, if you buy something with low quality, it will break easily  and what will happen is that you will buy a new one because you need it. If the product you buy always breaks, try to calculate the total price of everything you bought and you will be surprised that your cost has increased even more compared to buying high end products.



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April 10, 2024, 11:18:04 AM
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Off course poverty it self is a big problem that it hinders you from seeing far and confined you to a level, the poor always see those living a lugeriuous life as people who don't know what they are doing
Just as the writer has said there are environment you expose your self to that things begin to work well better for you
absolutely. Environment effect is one of th reason why we call something luxury. Most of the the things we from the average developing country look at as a luxurious things are what's readily available for an average person in a developed world and they don't normally make a big deal out of it. That's why most persons that a e living in such an environment are more productive and industrious because they have so many previlages that's for some one in an environment like ours is termed luxury but for them, it's just a necessity that helps one live a more comfortable life.

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well, I think it's okay to buy expensive things for work. If you can afford it, and it can help you in your work, then it would be better to buy it.
IMO, buying things that we will use for the long term at a more expensive price and that we can afford, will be better than buying things that are cheap, but hinder us in the work we have. Apart from that, the bigger the workload we have, the more things we need, and usually the items we need are items that have high prices.
Apart from that, another example, when someone has a high position, they are given expensive facilities. This is to make them work optimally. So, I think it's a common thing. If people start to get jealous of that, then just ignore them.

I agree with your opinion. It's okay when someone buys goods for the reason of helping us in our work, because it can increase enthusiasm for work. However, if we are unable to do accounting, we should not force ourselves because not all workers have to have the goods they want.
But when a worker cannot consider income and expenses it is very bad. For example if the goods we want do not match our income at work it can also hinder our work, and if we force ourselves we will definitely end up borrowing. So every item we want must be balanced with our income, therefore we as humans are not good at forcing ourselves.
So, adjust your desires to your income, if your income is a little better buy the goods you want that are cheap, as long as they are not cheap.

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