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March 08, 2024, 03:18:38 PM
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What about the Valencia vs Real Madrid match where during the attack there was a cross but the referee blew the whistle, wouldn't we think it was manipulation? This is still vague, but the news is that the referee is subject to a code of conduct prohibiting him from officiating the match, whether this is true or not but it is controversial.

And what happens if you bet on Real Madrid who are clearly going to win in the final minutes?
It's inconceivable because somehow this happens all the time, but we never distinguish the manipulation that the match is in progress but after that there will be a lot of news.

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March 08, 2024, 03:24:46 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

No any professional or world class standard game will want to employ or tolerate the use of racism in their judgement, they have the better understanding that games are not only viewed or played by a particular country, its a global view and everyone sees the way things got transpired through the way they make their judgement on each games and they wouldn't want to do otherwise, as for the cases of wrongly interpretation of event or judgement given aren't because of racism, in fact, racism should be the least form of corruption we should expect in sport betting's or any other games.

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March 08, 2024, 03:39:12 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
Putting my money out there with the hope of winning and making profit is enough reason for me not to get engaged on such game again especially if I know it will go against me, it's a clear indication that I shouldn't engage so I don't get to keep loosing my funds to partial officiating of the games and end up getting more losses which may affect my mental health, if i'v observed that such thing occurs too often on such games, I will skip gambling on such game to gamble on a much more better game which guarantees me every form of impartial judgement on the ga.e which will inturn help my predictions.

I think there's usually a regulations to stop all these biases especially when it has to do with racism and some of these acts has to be punishable so the perpetrators are discouraged from continuing with such attitude or behavior again.

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March 08, 2024, 03:43:05 PM
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Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I think this context is so subjective, it can't be based on the general opinion and truth, and if care is not taken, the person would make a whole lot of avoidable mistakes. At times, we misjudge the situation, racism may never happen in the judgment of the referees and VAR, but at times, some people would always relate what is not there as though it was there. Well, if I am ever caught up in a situation where I believe racism happened in a football, I will overlook it, nothing more, since even if it happens, that's not a must that it would happen again next time.

This is what I think is best for everyone to do as well because it is better to use your strategy to judge rightly than allow fear of referees' judgements to make you miss your bless. I have my standard of analysing my football betting and I make sure that I choose the most promising team with the highest odds. If any match can be well-analysed by me and also has reasonable odds, then I go for it without thinking otherwise.

By the way, I am putting this straight to you, is there racism in football? While waiting for your response, for me, there is nowhere there is no racism, but it will never be so obvious to avoid issues. If not, you would see a lot of protests and football would become something else. That's even if it is obvious to the point of boycotting a bet simply for the fear of racism. That's extreme.

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March 08, 2024, 03:44:22 PM
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Match fixing very often occurs in unknown leagues or in countries where match results can still be manipulated by mafias who are active in the practice of buying and selling matches to other parties who order match results as desired. I prefer to ignore matches in lower caste leagues because it is very easy to manipulate match results. Meanwhile, in top leagues such as the EPL, Bundesliga, Serie A and La Liga, match fixing is very rare because supervision is tighter due to its level of popularity covering the entire world. There is chaos in football due to match fixing which is deliberately carried out by parties who want to make a profit in the match. Supporters will express their emotions due to the result of the match which is considered unfair or a loss for one side and will lead to a negative side which makes the image of football even worse.

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March 08, 2024, 03:44:56 PM
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I wouldn’t exactly say racism affects the outcome of games of most leagues. Perhaps it does affect the outcome of matches of smaller and somewhat unknown leagues. That’s why I place bets on known and familiar leagues like the EPL.
There’s too much at stake to openly be racist about your decisions and some people is kind of being coerced into behaving like a normal decent human would. You’ve just got to bet on leagues you’re familiar with. Unless of course, you decide to still place bets on those games you think the outcome could be affected by racism.
I'm amazed that people still talk about racism and other things that have happened around the world, as well as anyone who holds a grudge or dislikes someone because of their skin color. With everyone fighting to survive right now. What's bothering you is racism. Seriously, I don't understand how race influences the outcome of gambling; everything is based on luck. Rasim and gambling do not have anything in common. So, if you want to gamble, simply bet. As far as how that game will benefit me, I am not concerned with anything else; all I want is to win. If someone has an issue with another person, they should not bring it to gaming; instead, they should keep it between themselves. If a person has an issue with leagues, they can try casinos.

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March 08, 2024, 03:51:51 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I don't bet much on sports. But if we keep it then always keep it in favor of strong team. I don't disrespect any team for racism. Because sports are a lot of fun and the teams who win in sports have a lot of trouble to win the matches. I appreciate their efforts. And besides the fun of watching sports, we try to double the fun by placing some bets. In this case, I do not have any headache. I don't want to associate my fun time with racism. because I always want to keep myself away from pride

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March 08, 2024, 04:11:11 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
From my experience so far, this is actually very common in almost all sports. But personally, I always respond normally. Because after all, sometimes we can't predict what will happen. So I personally prefer to take it as normal. Because in gambling we play with what is called luck. So basically I have an assumption like this (if I am lucky on the bet I placed this time, nothing can hinder my luck, neither the referee nor the Vars official). Therefore, I am not too worried about cheating or racism in sports betting. Because actually manipulating a sports match, like football, in my opinion is not an easy thing. So basically, in my personal opinion, people who manipulate are just trying their luck. However, the difference is, people who manipulate use more money than gamblers who place regular bets.

So in conclusion, I personally am not too worried about this. Because I personally also have analysis and predictions that I always use in every sporting match, especially football. Therefore, when I lose a bet I have, I choose not to think too much. But I just thought, maybe I'm just unlucky. Because if I think about it too deeply, I think it will actually make my mind even more dizzy. Therefore, it's better for me not to think about it. But for example, before the sporting match starts and for example already know that in the match there will be one party who will manipulate and for example this information is very relevant. Maybe for gamblers who believe this information, it is better not to place bets and just play it safe. But for me, information like that will have no effect. Because I trust my own analysis more than other people's information.

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March 08, 2024, 04:18:39 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

The recent racist attack I could remember was against Real Madrid's Vinicius Jr in the games with Valencia. Madrid lost the game but I don't think his red card affected the outcome of the game. But it would have affected the match if the Brazilian received the red card earlier in the game due to his outburst after he was racially attacked. I have not read about any news of any official that has wrongly officiated a game because of the skin color of a player(s).

Match officials are highly monitored in most top Leagues and I don't think these sports association would tolerate such racism. Officials that are caught in such act would be sanctioned accordingly. Racism cases are very rare in some sports so single case of this ugly events would not stop me from engaging sports bets. Such occurance will happen once in a while and since I usually gamble with what you can afford there is no cause of an alarm.

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March 08, 2024, 04:19:10 PM
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In my case I bet on football and the big leagues in Europe where the risk of match manipulation is non-existent, but it is true that in the league there have been some cases of racism against the Real Madrid player Vinicus Junior and the case of racism against him seems to be far from over although the la liga authorities are punishing people who commit crimes of racism. Now speaking from personal experience because I frequently suffer from racism, I would say that when a person is in pain because of the color they are, when deep down inside they feel ashamed of their own color, then that person becomes very psychologically unstable every time they experience racism. and loses his cool when he shouldn't, a very effective way to stop someone who commits racism is ignoring that person

going back to the case of the real madrid player vinicius, he is losing focus of the game, on the field when fans of other teams attack him, he immediately starts clashing with the fans of that team who are committing crimes of racism against him, and he doesn't realize that with this he is only making those people feel that they have power over him, that all they have to do is call him something x, then they will be able to destabilize him psychologically and he will play badly, he doesn't realize that this It's a strategy for those people. Nowadays, everyone has relatives of different colors and they laugh when they meet, so a person who commits a crime of racism is not because that person does not have relatives of different colors and does not like them.

What is this person who commits a crime of racism against another person and why does this person lose to the person they are insulting their color. as there is no other good argument, so he uses the color to feel superior at that moment, of course, being a crime, racism must be reported to the police and the person who committed the crime of racism will be tried in court and the judge will decide the penalty which should apply, as I am just a bettor and who complies with the laws and respects people, I will continue to place my sports bets, because it is up to the police and courts to punish criminals, I like sports betting and those big leagues and I have not committed no crime. racist people will be punished in court

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March 08, 2024, 04:20:39 PM
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Yes, I will not bet on a particular game if there are manipulation already happened on that game. I'd rather select the other games that I thinks it's not have manipulation. Sports betting can have racism happening but I don't know and don't want to thinks about so if I want to place a bet, I will research the game and decide it later. If I see that the game have a chance the racism happens, I will leaved it. Many gambling games that doesn't have racism happens so we can select and place a bet. If you don't want to see racism, you can also search for the other games. But racism is happens to some games and not happen the most games because many people watches the game and they can easily to protest to the the events organizer or the sports committee.

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March 08, 2024, 04:34:34 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

Yes ofcourse, if we there are manipulations going on around that sport or league then isn't it better to avoid it at first place ?
Why would anyone place a bet on a match in which they are sure that results can be manipulated ?
We bet on sports because we can predict with our skills who can win the match and if that is altered then there's no point of placing the bet.
It will just be based on luck in that case.

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March 08, 2024, 04:38:34 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

I think there are many betting games that can really manipulate the game, such as the fact that if you don't bet from the beginning, you have no chance to win in the casino.
This is the only thing that annoys a casino, but there are other gamblers who get lucky and win big, although they rarely win really big.

But even so, we as gamblers should be aware of that, and we should not be surprised because that is the cycle of gambling here in the field of crypto
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March 08, 2024, 04:43:46 PM
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If you know there is manipulation in the match then you will not bet, but when you know which team will win then you will bet on that team. Lol
No it's not like that. Grin

If there is no unfair match then I think it's less interesting but many gamblers still do this in some unfamiliar lower matches or even matches that are already popular then it will be difficult to manipulate, right, try to imagine if the connoisseurs of this sport know then they can be angry and will criticize it, then it's impossible even though there is behind it all.
I will avoid matches that are rigged because it's not fair.

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March 08, 2024, 04:47:39 PM
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I bet on some spots where it's hard to make a biased decision to insulate myself somewhat from situations like this. In one word, I believe in big events. Because I have already considered some of the minor league games where there has been ample evidence of racist behaviour. Moreover, small games are basically just a form of cheating with gamblers. I keep an eye on English Premier League, La Liga Spanish league and some other major leagues for stable bets in such situations. While no misses are used in smaller games, it is not possible to do so in larger events.

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March 08, 2024, 04:52:51 PM
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The subject of racism is one to not be shoved aside because it is still prevalent in our society even though it is not so common online but it still affects internet connectivity locations search as well as special packages that exist for only individuals from a particular place.

I will surely avoid some games if I suspect there's some form of racism and it affects my odds or predictions or it stops me from being able to withdraw my wins because of a geographic location matter.
Besides those that fix results I don't know if KYC verification is a contributing factor to decide how a user should be treated or perceived online during betting. Am sure it doesn't work this way anymore.

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March 08, 2024, 05:12:58 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

There are two things to take note of here. First, if you are a gambler then racism should be no concern to you. You should only be concerned with the sports betting and the odds offered by the betting site. Getting into the politics of the teams is no concern for a gambler, however, they should only see to the context that if this racism may give an advantage to one team over the other.

Now coming to the assurance that you can 80% of the bet is also very risky because you never know what will be the outcome of the game. When you gamble with the mindset that you are going to win this bet 100% surety, then the biggest mistake you make is that you bet with a big amount. Think that we put a major portion of our portfolio in the bet because we feel that one team will surely win. No matter what is the predictability of the outcome of the match, we should not deviate from our risk management plans.

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March 08, 2024, 05:14:24 PM
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I have never seen a chance like this for a bet.
I mean, yes maybe I have seen some racism during a match (like Milan Goalkeeper some months ago) but nothing that was directly linked to a betting game or that was able to change the result of a match. of course racism should be blamed and boycotted.
I will not consider gamblers as "part" of the issue. Some times it's also not possible to detect racism only by following the match.

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March 08, 2024, 05:19:21 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?

With me, this is a matter of the sport itself and it does not affect the betting. IMO, some subjects lack brains to express racist behavior, between humans there is an attitude of equality and mutual respect, perhaps some subjects have human appearances but their thoughts are not of human. I remember some matches that I watched in the past, like the aggressive behavior of the fans was so aggressive that they wanted to ruin the flow of the match, not understanding what they were looking for when they insulted someone. But anyway, this probably comes back to the betting issue, this situation is just a small development and I don't think it determines the initial betting behavior.









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March 08, 2024, 05:29:14 PM
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Especially on sports betting we see some racism happening and this happened in most of the league that are popular of which so many persons bet on. It bothers me to ask, that imagine you placed a bet and somehow you have 80% assurance that it would come out successful. And on the process of waiting for the game to end there was some racism manipulation in the game which made you lost the game. It could be football or other sports cause its mostly found in sports.

Next time would you choose to not bet on a particular game because you feel the members of the VAR, or the referee are racist, and you are sure that there would be some manipulation?
I cannot see any instances wherein racism is involved. Manipulation of games is not concerned with a gambler's or fighter's race. It could have a possibility to happen with one versus one sport such as boxing but biases are supposed to be removed with judges and scoreboards. Also, it would be discriminative on the eyes of audiences and would be too obvious in my perspective. Leagues aren't run by few people alone and they won't be happy with matches being percieved in relation with cheating. Manipulation is evident in some instances but I doubt it would be common with most matches.
I bet on some spots where it's hard to make a biased decision to insulate myself somewhat from situations like this. In one word, I believe in big events. Because I have already considered some of the minor league games where there has been ample evidence of racist behaviour. Moreover, small games are basically just a form of cheating with gamblers. I keep an eye on English Premier League, La Liga Spanish league and some other major leagues for stable bets in such situations. While no misses are used in smaller games, it is not possible to do so in larger events.
Would be more likely with matches involving huge names. The only instance I assumed about fixed matches are ones involving jake paul and mayweather, to give an example. This assumption is due to their 'titles' as athletes. Primarily, Mayweather being undefeated would ring a bell regardless of who Jake Paul is. In those instances I am not comfortable with, I just choose not to bet at al and just enjoy the match. Manipulation of matches in the first place is not something that would be confessed and will just be subjectively viewed as an audience.

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