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March 10, 2024, 06:59:01 PM
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But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.

I don't like talking about gambling with my offline friends because it's not important, but I have several close friends who also gamble. We often share our wins and share tip if we win. It was something fun and I never told anyone else about gambling except in my close circle of friends and on forum. So it's okay for us to share our gambling winnings as long as we know who we are sharing the winnings with.

Gamblers' winnings also usually don't last long and will run out again in gambling, like a cycle that spins endlessly and no one really gets rich from gambling because most people will spend more money than they get money.

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March 10, 2024, 07:12:03 PM
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But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.
I don't like talking about gambling with my offline friends because it's not important, but I have several close friends who also gamble. We often share our wins and share tip if we win. It was something fun and I never told anyone else about gambling except in my close circle of friends and on forum. So it's okay for us to share our gambling winnings as long as we know who we are sharing the winnings with.

Gamblers' winnings also usually don't last long and will run out again in gambling, like a cycle that spins endlessly and no one really gets rich from gambling because most people will spend more money than they get money.

Sharing it with your close friends is more than enough. You don't need to brag it to anyone else. You would find out also that it will be a burden if a lot more people know about your lifestyle. You don't need to explain to anybody, if you don't owe from anybody.

The only gambler that will waste their gambling winning to people are those gamblers that newly join gambling and they have never experience much losses from gambling because, those gamblers that have experienced huge amount of money from gambling will not let people to know about their winning.

Well, if your friends  have share their winning with your show that the day you will win in your gambling, you will surely share with them so that they will be happy with you because they take you as their friends that is why they shared their winning with you in the past.

He will learn his lessons on his own ways. Because once he is on the losing side, he will see if those people are still on his side or not. More then likely, they will just avoid him if he has nothing to give to them. That's the harsh reality of life. If they are not getting anymore from you, they will just ignore you.

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March 10, 2024, 07:28:39 PM
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I agree with OP, although it greatly depends on the friends that you have. I know people who are genuinely happy for you when you have money, but I also know people who envy and I have that feeling myself when I see that someone got a lot of money without having to break a sweat. I'm a successful investor (not a very successful gambler, unfortunately) so I know how people look at things that I bought. They usually ask how much this or that costed and I'm honest so I tell them and their eyes widen, like they're thinking "oh, he's got too much money so he's spending this much, when he could get a cheaper replacement...
People have to be in a similar situation to be happy for each other, or really close. For instance, when my friend win money, they throw a party, want to celebrate the win with friends. Like I said, it depends on your character.
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March 10, 2024, 07:45:32 PM
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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy. I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.

It depends on what kind of people are around you.  We should not generalize people since each person is unique.  Not because people around you are jealous of your success in winning the jackpot, the people around me would feel the same.

There are true friends and decent people that are happy with the success of others while there are people who are greedy and wicked and they only want to experience the winnings by themselves.  

When it comes to winnings or financial gain, I agree with you that we should hide it from other people because they has nothing to do with our gains and it is not our obligation to inform them.  It is better to be low profile, this way we can avoid uncertainties and other people's ill-intention and keep ourselves safe.

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March 10, 2024, 07:45:51 PM
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This is deep if I must say, but at the same time, it is not particularly true as some would sincerely rejoice with you, while some will pretend and the last set would plainly show you that they do not care. For this, you should not come to a conclusion due to one or two of these categories. Among these three categories, I prefer the first and the last, after all, they both show their real attitude towards what is happening, unlike the second category which is so ugly and could kill someone in disguise. This is why you have to study the environment you are in, just as we are expected to behave like Romans in Rome and do otherwise elsewhere.

Personally, I do detect those fake circles and I know how to deal with them. For me, no matter how much you hide it, it is just like a flame, it will come out somehow, so one would know how to go about it from there. Nonetheless, I am a private person, but this is just my personality and not that I will now be hiding my true self and winnings because of someone's attitude, damn them, I just do not care. If you know, you know, and if you sincerely appreciate me, fine, and if not, I DO NOT CARE. I will never play a different character for anyone, but thankfully, my private nature is even letting people know little or nothing about me.

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March 10, 2024, 07:46:19 PM
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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy. I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.
This should not really be a surprise to anyone, earning a high amount of money, regardless of how this was done, is always subject to envy, even from those that you love the most, since in their minds you are just another person like them, so the fact that you can reach such success indicates that they were wrong on their assessment, and this can create in many people feelings of inferiority as a great deal of them use money as a way to asses the value of a person.
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March 10, 2024, 08:21:37 PM
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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy. I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.
Except when necessary it's often not a very good idea to show off your winnings to everyone because not everyone deserves to know you are a gambler and even know you win and make money gambling because not all of them will really be happy with your wins as they would wish they had been the ones with such wins or even wished you lost so they just get that satisfaction that you are in misery, so it's very important you guard your information and know who should know about it and who shouldn't because it's not necessary for them to ever know about it as it will not do them much good enough rather will be putting yourself at an unnecessary risk which could be avoided by keep such information away from them.

Gambling generally isn't what most persons want to be associated with due to the moral stigma attached and so when they see gamblers make money nod gambling they easily become envious and not wanting to be genuinely happy except for fellow gamblers who understands the struggle.

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March 10, 2024, 08:45:16 PM
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Sharing it with your close friends is more than enough.
Not just close friends, but close friends who you know are mature. Not all close friends are mature enough to know that having a sense of entitlement is bad.

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Whenever you win a very huge amount of money, it is often advised that you do not tell everyone because telling people can jeopardize your safety. My suggestion will be to take a mini vacation to another place so you can stay away and think of the best way to spend the money wisely without being under the influence of friends and family members who may want to put you under pressure to spend recklessly.

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March 10, 2024, 09:02:01 PM
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I don't see it this way.  When one of my family or friends wins something big I am genuinely happy for them.  Generally speaking anything that makes them happy in life should make you happy no?  I mean not over the top or as happy as it makes the person themselves but why wouldn't ypu be happy for them.  Yeah I agree if in a casino and someone you don't know wins big I don't think much is to be expected in terms of being happy for that person. 
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March 10, 2024, 10:06:19 PM
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I don't see it this way.  When one of my family or friends wins something big I am genuinely happy for them.  Generally speaking anything that makes them happy in life should make you happy no?  I mean not over the top or as happy as it makes the person themselves but why wouldn't ypu be happy for them.  Yeah I agree if in a casino and someone you don't know wins big I don't think much is to be expected in terms of being happy for that person. 

My relationship with certain people determines if I share news of a windfall.  I only tell my family if I come into money.  With others, I stay vague if the subject arises.  Or I deflect.  Life teaches caution about money matters.  I've learned that the hard way.  Why invite envy or begging?  My priority is protecting my peace of mind.

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March 10, 2024, 10:23:05 PM
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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy. I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, and common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.
First thing first,  people don't like a good things and sometimes some of them go as far as showing it off in their faces,  because of envy and jealousy they tend never to celebrate another man winning even though if it doesn't affect their own winning or well being at some point.

Many of them have made players not to even celebrate when they win,  they rather keep their good news to themselves and will not mention it since most people don't like to hear good things from others.

What people know,  they destroy so for that many have formed the belief system that if they tell others about the good news,  it will only attract enemies to them so silence becomes the best option.

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March 10, 2024, 10:32:00 PM
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But it’s still better to hide your victories from others.
I completely agree, seeing news about the dangers(some of which are life threatening) that can happen to someone who has won substantial amount of money because people know about their winnings, it is not worth risking your safety to let everyone know(sometimes even the people that you know or close to you) about your winnings.

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March 10, 2024, 10:32:39 PM
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I don't see it this way.  When one of my family or friends wins something big I am genuinely happy for them.  Generally speaking anything that makes them happy in life should make you happy no?  I mean not over the top or as happy as it makes the person themselves but why wouldn't ypu be happy for them.  Yeah I agree if in a casino and someone you don't know wins big I don't think much is to be expected in terms of being happy for that person. 

My relationship with certain people determines if I share news of a windfall.  I only tell my family if I come into money.  With others, I stay vague if the subject arises.  Or I deflect.  Life teaches caution about money matters.  I've learned that the hard way.  Why invite envy or begging?  My priority is protecting my peace of mind.

Even with my own family i dont really tend to share out when it comes to neither money making or winning, how much more on losing on which it would really be that a common approach
or reaction that they would be having that they would really be having that negative views in towards on what you are doing specially when dealing up with gambling.

I do agree into those sentiments above that whenever you do experience lavish or extreme luck in life on where even your relatives would be coming into a point that
they would really be having that kind of different treatment if ever we do speak about that kind of jealousy that they are really that feeling inside.
Its cant really be avoided and something that cant really be new on which they would be always having that kind of impressions.

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March 10, 2024, 10:39:43 PM
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I think you should not share your financial information with anyone except the most trusted people. Because I believe in one thing that those who are your friends now, maybe they can be also your enemies tomorrow and then it will be easy for them to harm you if they know these things about you. Moreover, I also believe that if one person wins or earns more than the other person, jealousy can be created between those persons, and nothing good can ever be expected from that.
To put it more simply, let me give one more example, currently crypto currency is illegal in my country, there are many news that those who earn cryptocurrency are arrested by the police. And the fact that they are associated with cryptocurrency is informed by the people around them to the police so that they can take money from him by blackmail. This happened in our country a few days ago, a freelancer's 5 bitcoins were taken by a police member through blackmail.

And definitely, those that are not your friends when you have no money, will suddenly become your friends now when you have big earnings from crypto. People come close to you when you can be beneficial for them, and leave suddenly when you are at loss. This is why it’s a lot better to keep on your own whatever your achievement or huge earnings that you luckily have. Not all the people around you will be happy for your success, in fact they really want to pull you down so that they won’t get envy after all.

With your example given, instead of people around him should be helping him to secure his bitcoins but because of envy, they even put this person’s earnings into danger. So that’s how envy and jealousy affect the minds of people. The fallback of those successful people will definitely become their silent success.

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March 10, 2024, 10:43:07 PM
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Sharing it with your close friends is more than enough.
Not just close friends, but close friends who you know are mature. Not all close friends are mature enough to know that having a sense of entitlement is bad.

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Whenever you win a very huge amount of money, it is often advised that you do not tell everyone because telling people can jeopardize your safety. My suggestion will be to take a mini vacation to another place so you can stay away and think of the best way to spend the money wisely without being under the influence of friends and family members who may want to put you under pressure to spend recklessly.
Gamblers need a prudent approach to managing a windfall from gambling winnings, because there would be potential safety concerns and the pressure from friends and family. It allows for privacy, thoughtful planning, and protection against external pressures. Those enable the gamblers to make informed and responsible decisions about their newfound wealth.

Keeping reality of a significant gambling win private can indeed help safeguard the safety. Broadcasting the win may attract unwanted attention, including from people with nefarious intentions. Stepping away from the excitement of the win allows for clear-headed thinking about how to best utilize the money. It provides an opportunity to consider long-term goals, financial planning, and responsible spending rather than succumbing to impulsive decisions. Being away from friends and family who may exert pressure to spend recklessly can help prevent hasty or unwise financial decisions. External influences that may lead to excessive spending.

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March 10, 2024, 10:47:00 PM
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I don't see it this way.  When one of my family or friends wins something big I am genuinely happy for them.  Generally speaking anything that makes them happy in life should make you happy no?  I mean not over the top or as happy as it makes the person themselves but why wouldn't ypu be happy for them.  Yeah I agree if in a casino and someone you don't know wins big I don't think much is to be expected in terms of being happy for that person. 
What you said is true. And for that reason, I don't think gamblers should hide their winnings from everyone. They just should know to who to share such news, that is, to share it with friends like you, who would feel happy for their winnings. Of course it doesn't make sense to spread to the wind every good thing which happens in your life, especially if it's related to a financial matter, because most people won't care about it and will even envy you for that, but at same time it doesn't mean we should close ourselves inside an untouchable dome where no one can enter and be part of it.

What I observe is that many jackpot winners commited the mistake of trusting people who weren't their friends, and ended taking these people to their houses and treating them as family's members. In the end, they were betrayed by these people and even murdered in some cases where they married women who were interested only on their wealth. These sad stories make people suspicious of each other, so they tend to not trust anyone, because if someone is approaching, it's interpreted as this person wants to take advantage of them somehow... However, even though it's a defensive mechanism people develop, it turns society into an hostile environment where every kinds of relationships become inconstant and uncertain.

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March 10, 2024, 10:49:25 PM
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I think you should not share your financial information with anyone except the most trusted people. Because I believe in one thing that those who are your friends now, maybe they can be also your enemies tomorrow and then it will be easy for them to harm you if they know these things about you. Moreover, I also believe that if one person wins or earns more than the other person, jealousy can be created between those persons, and nothing good can ever be expected from that.
To put it more simply, let me give one more example, currently crypto currency is illegal in my country, there are many news that those who earn cryptocurrency are arrested by the police. And the fact that they are associated with cryptocurrency is informed by the people around them to the police so that they can take money from him by blackmail. This happened in our country a few days ago, a freelancer's 5 bitcoins were taken by a police member through blackmail.

And definitely, those that are not your friends when you have no money, will suddenly become your friends now when you have big earnings from crypto.
And this is very normal in life on having that kind of people around you when you do have the money but on the time that you dont have something that they would benefit then they would really be just leaving you in the air and this is something very casual. This is where you would really be able to see on whose people would really be that on your side or true friends or into those people who are opportunist when you do still have the money. This is why it would really be that best that you should really know on when to avoid those type of people. This is why it would really be better that you should not really let your winnings or earnings
be known by other people because instead they would be happy for you they would rather be doing the opposite and they would be even asking for some free money or bonus that they do expect that they
can get from you. lol

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I would like to discuss this topic, the joy of victory. Much has been written about this, but nevertheless it will always be relevant. Many players naively believe that someone other than themselves should be happy about their winnings. I don't think so. Of course, those closest to you who directly or indirectly depend on your money will be happy about your winnings. But neighbors, friends, work colleagues, at best (at best!) will receive the news of your victories with indifference, and at worst, with envy. I know that many friends and acquaintances get depressed when they find out how much you have earned. For them, it will be an unnecessary reminder of their failure. Often friendships end after one person becomes very rich. People lose common topics for communication, common interests disappear. Of course, things are different in sports betting and trading than in business. Here success is less stable and a person can often fall back into poverty more quickly. But it’s still better to hide your victories from others. I've seen many clear examples.
I don't know where you even got the idea they ever would be happy for you in the first place? Especially if you get rich by winning? This is why people advice you to not ever tell anyone if you won the lottery, or what ever you won. And biggest reason for not telling is: No one needs to know. You might want to tell people, but ask yourself why you even want that.

People will envy you, that's right. One proof of that is this myth that keeps on living, that most lottery winners end up being broke and miserable in the end. There are no stats that would back this up, and while some people might mess their lives by drinking etc, not everyone obviously will do that. Those negative stories keep living though, because people love to read about them. They are kind on confirmation bias, as majority wants lottery winners to suffer, they see those stories as comforting because they aren't ever goingt to win.

But people around you can be very envious, not everyone but enough of them are a good reason not to tell around about your money. Especially when they think you didn't "earn" the money, but only were lucky. You see this envy with people's attitude towards crypto rich as well. Actually even more with those.

Some of your friends will avoid you. Some because of envy, some because they are extra careful and don't want you think that they are only with you because of money. For some reason people don't seem to do that when you have earned your money slowly with work. At least none of the rich that i know (i know few people that got rich and one of them quickly with cryptos).

And i don't know what common topics and common interests are you talking about, but i never lost them with my friends. All being rich brought to them was financial security and peace of mind because they don't need to live from hand to mouth anymore. And few other obvious perks as well.

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March 10, 2024, 11:50:40 PM
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I don't see it this way.  When one of my family or friends wins something big I am genuinely happy for them.  Generally speaking anything that makes them happy in life should make you happy no?  I mean not over the top or as happy as it makes the person themselves but why wouldn't ypu be happy for them.  Yeah I agree if in a casino and someone you don't know wins big I don't think much is to be expected in terms of being happy for that person. 
In your case, yes, you didn't feel envy, but if you are the one who wins, will your other family members or relatives feel the same way? I dont know but I believe in money is the root cause of evil we have seen a lot of news and stories that tackle about family members or relatives being in dispute just because of money, worst there are related crimes that the suspect is arelative or family members, that's why even if you are winning in life even not in gambling but in your career, its better to be lowkey, because being lowkey will give you a piece of mind where no other relatives will nag you for money or ask for money just because you are being successful, being quite about your fortune will be much better than flexing and knowing that someone might be being envy of you, choose, being lowkey and have a quite life while enjoying your achivements or flexing but there are many people judging your or nagging you for money.

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I completely don't care if someone is happy or sad about my win.
I like to help those who want to make bets but I'm not interested in other people's judgement.
obviously never let "all" of your gaming habits be known. I never talk about gambling with people that doesn't gamble.

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