[REQUEST] the wall observer thread should be pinned.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Is hard to fish out those who break the rules and I some how get why some users are saying that the WO thread should be pinned, if that thread was opened by a newbie I believe some actions would have been taken, so let's forget about how things are been done over there, the merit is not something we can take home.

The culture of the WO thread had evolved over time, and more or less, various members of the forum petitioned theymos to reopen the thread because the culture of the WO thread was something that several of the members wanted to keep, and theymos agreed to such retention of the thread - after several of us voted for a new thread owner - and largely the member who won the vote had pledged to leave the thread as it had been with little to no intervention... which likely contributed to his winning the vote of the them interested (or those who voted in that vision) members.

Which means this isn't something that took a day or weeks to begin and since it has been this way I don't feel there's any need for a reshuffling, from all you said it seems like this thread WO is the oldest thread in this Forum, after passing through series of vote and I don't think we have any thread on the Forum that made members to vote for it (the thread) to stay up till this very moment, much respect should be given to the WO.

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[philipma1957]

It really doesn't need or deserved to be pinned. It's only the most popular because it's auto-posted in multiple times a day by ChartBuddy, and given that fact it's usually always at the top anyway.

Seriously, bro? I bet even if ChartBuddy is disabled, there are actual real users who are keeping it alive and pinned to the top.
To name few philipma1957, JayJuanGee, El duderino_

Hahahahaha..

Funny you say that.  Chartbuddy was gone from the thread for more than 3 years between about 2017-ish and 2020-ish, and there was a time (right around early 2017) in which Theymos had closed down the thread, and such shut down lasted for a couple of weeks with quite a few upset forum members, and we had to vote for a new thread owner in order to reactivate the thread, and that was when theymos removed the ability to auto-show signatures in that thread.

When I first came to the forum, I rarely posted outside of the WO thread, and so my first post on the forum was on page 5,151 of the WO thread - yet in recent times (especially since 2018), I have come into practice of venturing into other parts of the forum and outside of that thread.

Is hard to fish out those who break the rules and I some how get why some users are saying that the WO thread should be pinned, if that thread was opened by a newbie I believe some actions would have been taken, so let's forget about how things are been done over there, the merit is not something we can take home.

The culture of the WO thread had evolved over time, and more or less, various members of the forum petitioned theymos to reopen the thread because the culture of the WO thread was something that several of the members wanted to keep, and theymos agreed to such retention of the thread - after several of us voted for a new thread owner - and largely the member who won the vote had pledged to leave the thread as it had been with little to no intervention... which likely contributed to his winning the vote of the them interested (or those who voted in that vision) members.

You are probably referring to one or the other of the below two related threads, which should largely help you to figure out for yourself that the mere fact that something is alleged (dramatized and/or whined about) does not cause it to have merit.....

....but hey, whatever, you are free to believe whatever you like.
Request: Disable merits in the Wall Observer thread

Request: Disable JayJuanGee in the Wall Observer thread

Uh, shuck! I didn't mean "wasteful spread of merits" in the way you see it now. I was actually concerned about how that place is a beehive for account farmers and also merit farmers since they see that place as an easy access to boosting their accounts, all they just need to do is give their two cents about Bitcoin price.

Those were pretty much the same accusations that were attempting to be emphasized in the two threads that I pointed out (linked above), and members do not necessarily agree about the way to resolve merit and/or account farmers or even agree to the extent that there is a problem that should be resolved by curbing the ability to send smerits within the WO thread... as seemed to had been proposed through those two threads.. and of course, several times, I posted in each of those two threads to disagree with the propositions and/or the making of jokes about such propositions (if that might have been a subliminal intention of one of the threads).

Like Phillipma pointed out, gifting merits is based on individual choice but I feel some people take advantage of this and exploit it.

So?

What @nutildah raised as a concern in that link may be something to actually take into consideration but probably he didn't go about it the right way, which made it look like he was biased.

He is biased.  He is a little whining cunt, at least on that topic.

hahahhaha

Although, from time to time, nutildah does make some good points about various forum matters or even some bitcoin-related matters, and even seeming to point out some members who came to the forum with bad intentions (pointing out scammers) - yet he was not correct in that particular attempt to impose smerit sending values under some supposed objective smerit sending standards that he seemed to be wanting to impose. .and proposing either restrictions on the WO thread in that direction or to get members to self-police in the ways that he (nutildah) thought would have had been better for the forum blah blah blah...

And, yeah, he has a right to raise those kinds of issues and concerns and to attempt to persuade forum members to vote on the topic that he presented, which he did those things.

jjg a whining little cunt is harsh bro 😎 far too harsh.

[JayJuanGee]

Is hard to fish out those who break the rules and I some how get why some users are saying that the WO thread should be pinned, if that thread was opened by a newbie I believe some actions would have been taken, so let's forget about how things are been done over there, the merit is not something we can take home.

The culture of the WO thread had evolved over time, and more or less, various members of the forum petitioned theymos to reopen the thread because the culture of the WO thread was something that several of the members wanted to keep, and theymos agreed to such retention of the thread - after several of us voted for a new thread owner - and largely the member who won the vote had pledged to leave the thread as it had been with little to no intervention... which likely contributed to his winning the vote of the them interested (or those who voted in that vision) members.

Which means this isn't something that took a day or weeks to begin and since it has been this way I don't feel there's any need for a reshuffling, from all you said it seems like this thread WO is the oldest thread in this Forum, after passing through series of vote and I don't think we have any thread on the Forum that made members to vote for it (the thread) to stay up till this very moment, much respect should be given to the WO.

It is not even close to being the oldest thread on the forum (even though it is surely the longest and I believe has a pretty high ranking in terms of long threads in any forum), and it even had a couple of predecessor threads that were on the same topic, but I think that there was a desire to convert the thread from a regular thread to a self-directed thread since from the perspective of the then owner adamstgBit there had been too much deviation from the topic and trolling, so he created the thread that is currently the WO as a self-directed thread rather than a regular thread.

The thread just took on a life of its own, and in that sense theymos allowed the thread to continue with a kind of "special treatment" status, mostly in terms of playing out as a kind of anything goes thread - even though regular thread participants will get pretty irritated if any members come in there pumping shitcoins, which still does happen from time to time, even though mostly the members tend to be mostly bitcoin maximalism oriented, even though there is no requirement that you have to be a bitcoin maximalist to participate in the thread.. to the extent that any of us like those kinds of labels in the first place..

Several of the regular thread members appreciate new thread participants, even though sometimes we will beat them up a bit if they seem to be coming to the thread in a trolly or shilling kind of a way or maybe seeming to have some other personality problems.. .. yet in the end, even the participation of the active members in that thread has changed over the years. .. some new members get worn out by trying to keep up with the thread, and I think that participation will go up quite a bit during high price movements.. and surely there were some times in which there were 20-30 pages added per day, even during the time that chartbuddy was not active there... so if you think about it, just with chartbuddy, there is slightly more than one page per day, since he has hourly posts - which would be 24 posts per day (when he is not broken down - which is fairly rarely, these days).

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jjg a whining little cunt is harsh bro 😎 far too harsh.

Touché    





 what you say is surely possible.  


By the way, I have not seen you in the "planking thread" recently.






You better get your pudgy lil old fat ass over there.. #nohomo hahahahaha


#justsaying if you want to make it to 93+

[Fivestar4everMVP]

If it's just about pinning, then I would agree that wall observer in the speculation board have indeed earned that in regards to its activity, number of views and comments.

But then, we still will have to consider the forum rules as regards to pinning a thread, like what virasog said in his comment, we still have to consider if there is really any important stuff as regards to the forum or the speculation board in general, the price of bitcoin and it's discussion alone arent as important if you ask me, I believe users don't sleep and wake up on this forum, there are other sources outside this forum very convenient enough in keeping track of bitcoin's price in real time, so regardless of that thread, we all still know what the price of bitcoin is in real time, and can even discuss it on several other boards in other parts of the forum.

So, in the above regard, I do not think that pinning the wall observer thread in the speculation board is that important, good thing is, it has been really active, have continued to stay at the top, and may continue so for a very long time from now, so, there is absolutely no need pinning it.

[OgNasty]

The thing that makes the Wall Observer thread so great is that it is resilient on it's own.  It doesn't need to be pinned like other weak threads that are here today and forgotten tomorrow.  The Wall Observer thread lives on through it's own means.  If you want to help the Wall Observer thread live on in it's infamy for all time you need not worry about pins, you just need to participate along with everyone else.  That's been historically enough to keep it around and I suspect that will do the job going forward as well.

[El duderino_]

Chart buddy does keep it near the top. Lots of others post.

I would think it gets over 100 posts a day.

Buddy and philip keeping the WO on top (their battle never stops)

so we good

The WO is just a cult classic on its own.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Probably some of us consider the WO thread as the troll box of the forum.. or the forum's main chat thread....and maybe some forum members don't know that?    Even though a newbie might get beaten up verbally if joining the WO thread as a beginner, no one can really stop anyone from posting there about any topic, even though you will likely get beaten up if you try to pump shitcoins in that thread...

I have not been in WO in recent time. The reason for newbies were beaten up was the tactics some forum members discovered that in WO earning merit is easy. There were accusations that many members were creating new accounts and posting things that we like and was earning merits [for others these were shitposts though] from it. I hope now there are no lurkers.

[criptoevangelista]

Probably some of us consider the WO thread as the troll box of the forum.. or the forum's main chat thread....and maybe some forum members don't know that?    Even though a newbie might get beaten up verbally if joining the WO thread as a beginner, no one can really stop anyone from posting there about any topic, even though you will likely get beaten up if you try to pump shitcoins in that thread...

I have not been in WO in recent time. The reason for newbies were beaten up was the tactics some forum members discovered that in WO earning merit is easy. There were accusations that many members were creating new accounts and posting things that we like and was earning merits [for others these were shitposts though] from it. I hope now there are no lurkers.

I believe it is easy to distinguish a legitimate newbie from an opportunist.

[philipma1957]

Is hard to fish out those who break the rules and I some how get why some users are saying that the WO thread should be pinned, if that thread was opened by a newbie I believe some actions would have been taken, so let's forget about how things are been done over there, the merit is not something we can take home.

The culture of the WO thread had evolved over time, and more or less, various members of the forum petitioned theymos to reopen the thread because the culture of the WO thread was something that several of the members wanted to keep, and theymos agreed to such retention of the thread - after several of us voted for a new thread owner - and largely the member who won the vote had pledged to leave the thread as it had been with little to no intervention... which likely contributed to his winning the vote of the them interested (or those who voted in that vision) members.

Which means this isn't something that took a day or weeks to begin and since it has been this way I don't feel there's any need for a reshuffling, from all you said it seems like this thread WO is the oldest thread in this Forum, after passing through series of vote and I don't think we have any thread on the Forum that made members to vote for it (the thread) to stay up till this very moment, much respect should be given to the WO.

It is not even close to being the oldest thread on the forum (even though it is surely the longest and I believe has a pretty high ranking in terms of long threads in any forum), and it even had a couple of predecessor threads that were on the same topic, but I think that there was a desire to convert the thread from a regular thread to a self-directed thread since from the perspective of the then owner adamstgBit there had been too much deviation from the topic and trolling, so he created the thread that is currently the WO as a self-directed thread rather than a regular thread.

The thread just took on a life of its own, and in that sense theymos allowed the thread to continue with a kind of "special treatment" status, mostly in terms of playing out as a kind of anything goes thread - even though regular thread participants will get pretty irritated if any members come in there pumping shitcoins, which still does happen from time to time, even though mostly the members tend to be mostly bitcoin maximalism oriented, even though there is no requirement that you have to be a bitcoin maximalist to participate in the thread.. to the extent that any of us like those kinds of labels in the first place..

Several of the regular thread members appreciate new thread participants, even though sometimes we will beat them up a bit if they seem to be coming to the thread in a trolly or shilling kind of a way or maybe seeming to have some other personality problems.. .. yet in the end, even the participation of the active members in that thread has changed over the years. .. some new members get worn out by trying to keep up with the thread, and I think that participation will go up quite a bit during high price movements.. and surely there were some times in which there were 20-30 pages added per day, even during the time that chartbuddy was not active there... so if you think about it, just with chartbuddy, there is slightly more than one page per day, since he has hourly posts - which would be 24 posts per day (when he is not broken down - which is fairly rarely, these days).

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jjg a whining little cunt is harsh bro 😎 far too harsh.

Touché    





 what you say is surely possible.  


By the way, I have not seen you in the "planking thread" recently.






You better get your pudgy lil old fat ass over there.. #nohomo hahahahaha


#justsaying if you want to make it to 93+

missed this I changed my mind you are a whining little c word.

I have not been exercising and to be truthful gained some weight plus my slacking off matched the btc price retreat. So I am getting up out of my chair and going on the bike for 33 minutes.

I will shoot for 100 minutes on the bike today hoping that honey badger cares about me and my 100 minutes for 100k

[Mia Chloe]

missed this I changed my mind you are a whining little c word.

I have not been exercising and to be truthful gained some weight plus my slacking off matched the btc price retreat. So I am getting up out of my chair and going on the bike for 33 minutes.

I will shoot for 100 minutes on the bike today hoping that honey badger cares about me and my 100 minutes for 100k

Hahaha that's a ton of hope there. If its would  happen that way  I would encourage you so you would do an extra 100 minutes making it 200 minutes in total so that way Bitcoin could hit 200k  I bet Hodlers will rejoice.

Currently I guess Bitcoin won't be hitting a new all time high till after halving. And besides every one is hoping that by halving, it shoots to 100k or even more and from the boosts in price we have seen for a couple of weeks until recently I guess it will.

Anyways I guess it's quite funny how everyone hodling is happy about the halving but miners aren't that much. Imagine receiving half of your initial reward for same amount of cryptographic work. But I guess a price pump would still give them a little pump in value of their rewards.

[philipma1957]

missed this I changed my mind you are a whining little c word.

I have not been exercising and to be truthful gained some weight plus my slacking off matched the btc price retreat. So I am getting up out of my chair and going on the bike for 33 minutes.

I will shoot for 100 minutes on the bike today hoping that honey badger cares about me and my 100 minutes for 100k

Hahaha that's a ton of hope there. If its would  happen that way  I would encourage you so you would do an extra 100 minutes making it 200 minutes in total so that way Bitcoin could hit 200k   I bet Hodlers will rejoice.

Currently I guess Bitcoin won't be hitting a new all time high till after halving. And besides every one is hoping that by halving, it shoots to 100k or even more and from the boosts in price we have seen for a couple of weeks until recently I guess it will.

Anyways I guess it's quite funny how everyone hodling is happy about the halving but miners aren't that much. Imagine receiving half of your initial reward for same amount of cryptographic work. But I guess a price pump would still give them a little pump in value of their rewards.

Just did 33 minutes and 20 seconds on the bike. I will do that three times today for 100 minutes on the bike.

I also did 100 rubber band pulls with each arm.

I will also do three planks adding up to 100 seconds today.

[JayJuanGee]

missed this I changed my mind you are a whining little c word.

I have not been exercising and to be truthful gained some weight plus my slacking off matched the btc price retreat. So I am getting up out of my chair and going on the bike for 33 minutes.

I will shoot for 100 minutes on the bike today hoping that honey badger cares about me and my 100 minutes for 100k

Hahaha that's a ton of hope there. If its would  happen that way  I would encourage you so you would do an extra 100 minutes making it 200 minutes in total so that way Bitcoin could hit 200k   I bet Hodlers will rejoice.

Currently I guess Bitcoin won't be hitting a new all time high till after halving. And besides every one is hoping that by halving, it shoots to 100k or even more and from the boosts in price we have seen for a couple of weeks until recently I guess it will.

Anyways I guess it's quite funny how everyone hodling is happy about the halving but miners aren't that much. Imagine receiving half of your initial reward for same amount of cryptographic work. But I guess a price pump would still give them a little pump in value of their rewards.

Just did 33 minutes and 20 seconds on the bike. I will do that three times today for 100 minutes on the bike.

I also did 100 rubber band pulls with each arm.

I will also do three planks adding up to 100 seconds today.

Don't overdo it you old fart.

You cannot go from not doing anything and then all-of-a sudden try to make up for those days that you already lost.

This happens to be a marathon and not a sprint (especially if you are wanting to make it to 93 or whatever might be your target), so if you peter out because you over did it - even on the way to $100k, then you will have no one to blame, except u r lil selfie.

I am saying this in an attempt to help you (if that is even possible?)... not to hurt you.. because I care.. #nohomo

[I_Anime]

The thing that makes the Wall Observer thread so great is that it is resilient on it's own.  It doesn't need to be pinned like other weak threads that are here today and forgotten tomorrow.  The Wall Observer thread lives on through it's own means.  If you want to help the Wall Observer thread live on in it's infamy for all time you need not worry about pins, you just need to participate along with everyone else.  That's been historically enough to keep it around and I suspect that will do the job going forward as well.

Exactly, WO is always at the top in the speculation board , any users who access the speculation board for the first time , I'm pretty sure that the first thread is gonna she Is the WO. One seeing such number of activity in just one thread would be force to click it and see what it is all about. and the Wall observer thread is full with true lovers of Bitcoin, though I don't often post there but I'm a big fan in reading their post . And anything that have been post there, are one way or the other related to bitcoin . Most they do use ramen to indicate that there's a decrease in price If am not mistaken. And those same users have inspired alot of users when it come to holding their bitcoin, most users may see those post there as shit post, But still to me most of those post are Impacting.

[KingsDen]

The thing that makes the Wall Observer thread so great is that it is resilient on it's own.  It doesn't need to be pinned like other weak threads that are here today and forgotten tomorrow.  The Wall Observer thread lives on through it's own means.  If you want to help the Wall Observer thread live on in it's infamy for all time you need not worry about pins, you just need to participate along with everyone else.  That's been historically enough to keep it around and I suspect that will do the job going forward as well.

Wall Observe is a monumental thread. It is qualified by age and also by engagement. With the availability of a bit in that thread, it's always going to be at the first page and if not at the top of the speculation board. I am of the opinion that WO should just be left the way it is. I have heard many accusations about WO such as;

• It has turned to a merit fishing and sharing thread
• Someone even raised a topic to deactivate signature in WO thread
• I have also read about the emergence of shit posts in the thread

But all these didn't change anything. WO is like a thread in auto pilot, maybe we allow it continue that way

[Ambatman]

@Mia Chloe I feel the thread should be closed except maybe there are more to be added. Many have already given their reasons as to why pinning the thread is not really important to is popularity or survival.
Chartbuddy post around 24 post a day, not including the active members there especially in time when we swimming in greens.
About the issue that many talk about the WO like preventing merit from been given there, or closing signature avatars from appearing I still believe that even if all this is applied the thread would still be as busy at it was.
Many Bitcoin enthusiast and holders are active there.

I would have used the opportunity to ask a question about another section in BTT but I don't want it to be off topic.
So might be creating a thread about that soon, This I usually find as a chore.
Do all have  a wonderful Easter in advance with  Easter Bunny sending Green eggs.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I believe it is easy to distinguish a legitimate newbie from an opportunist.

Not always easy unless you suspect the account and spend an hour or half an hour on checking the post history.

Currently I guess Bitcoin won't be hitting a new all time high till after halving. And besides every one is hoping that by halving, it shoots to 100k or even more and from the boosts in price we have seen for a couple of weeks until recently I guess it will.

It already created a new ATH but if you are talking about 100k party, then it's soon in the next few weeks, I think.