Resolved: SCAM REPORT | Heisenberg63

[zir787]

Adding more info.

My last deal I did had the same LTC address so in spite of Heisenberg63 loosing his phone his wallet access should remain with him.

check my last deal with Heisenberg63 in Feb with LTC address same as he asked me to make payment on Friday and ghosted me after.

screen shot: https://imgur.com/YCNzqjO

The chat just got cleared. I am glad I took screen shots of whatever I could.

Let's be clear, to make sure I understood everything correctly.
In February, you successfully made one trade, while in the other trade from March, you did not get what you paid for, and the seller used the same LTC address in both cases?

Heisenberg63's story doesn't add up. I'll follow this topic to see his response to this question. I'm very close to leaving a red warning tag.

I'm just going to leave a red tag because Heisenberg63 didn't show anything that would convince me that trading with him is not high risk. Even if what he claims is true, the way he runs his business is completely unprofessional.
Of course, if this case gets a positive epilogue, I will be happy to remove the red mark.

Yes the last two trades were of same LTC address of which one trade was completed successfully while the 2nd trade ended up me opening a scam report.

WOW!  Really shocked reading this.  Not saying what buyer or seller is saying is or is not true just that I have been dealing with Heisenberg63 FOR YEARS {but not in the last months) without issue. The "lost phone" excuse does sound kinda fluky though.

While he could have F'd up I'd bet that this will get fixed to everyone's satisfaction. Just seems so out of the norm for him.  Hopefully it gets resolved.

I am hoping that @Heisenberg63 takes onus and at least works towards a fix as he should be responsible for his equipment and like BitcoinGirl.club mentioned your account security is your liability and he needs to take responsibility.

I hope he returns here or reaches to me on Telegram with a fix. Since yesterday I have not heard of him.

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[MiLkz]

The use of the same LTC address(Lf3H5K7g6yGZGFNSd23zMZ36kvV7GkT8b3), on 2/18 and 3/9, makes this case fairly damning.

I cannot image why a scammer that stole the phone would provide the same LTC address as the original owner.

Need an answer for that one..

[Heisenberg63]

@Heisenberg63 would you mind explaining why the scammer using your address to scam people? and if the OP sent the LTC to your address, would you mind sending it back?

The chat just got cleared. I am glad I took screen shots of whatever I could.

do you have more screenshots of your previous dealings with him? if so, would you mind posting it too?

I wish and hope to get a resolution as I am in a very bad situation and I was not willing to do a deal for loosing money.

sadly if Heisenberg63 is really planning on scamming you, there is a high chance that you won't get your money back. he'd either abandon his account or ignore you.

But i did not do that and I am still here trying to figure out what happened.

The use of the same LTC address(Lf3H5K7g6yGZGFNSd23zMZ36kvV7GkT8b3), on 2/18 and 3/9, makes this case fairly damning.

I cannot image why a scammer that stole the phone would provide the same LTC address as the original owner.

Need an answer for that one..

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.


ANY ONE GETS A MESSAGE FROM THAT TELEGRAM, JUST IGNORE IT AS IT WILL BE FROM THE SCAMMER NOT ME.

WOW!  Really shocked reading this.  Not saying what buyer or seller is saying is or is not true just that I have been dealing with Heisenberg63 FOR YEARS {but not in the last months) without issue. The "lost phone" excuse does sound kinda fluky though.

While he could have F'd up I'd bet that this will get fixed to everyone's satisfaction. Just seems so out of the norm for him.  Hopefully it gets resolved.

I really appreciate your feedback though and I am getting myself together and see what I can do. But first of all I am trying to secure every account I had on this fkn phone.

[player514]

WOW!  Really shocked reading this.  Not saying what buyer or seller is saying is or is not true just that I have been dealing with Heisenberg63 FOR YEARS {but not in the last months) without issue. The "lost phone" excuse does sound kinda fluky though.

While he could have F'd up I'd bet that this will get fixed to everyone's satisfaction. Just seems so out of the norm for him.  Hopefully it gets resolved.

Also find this particularly wild, I was mostly around years ago, but I've dealt with Heisenberg63 in the past (literally >3 years ago though), and I don't think I ever had a problem. Logging back on after a few years and his username is one that I vaguely remember seeing back in the day.

@Heisenberg63 would you mind explaining why the scammer using your address to scam people? and if the OP sent the LTC to your address, would you mind sending it back?

The chat just got cleared. I am glad I took screen shots of whatever I could.

do you have more screenshots of your previous dealings with him? if so, would you mind posting it too?

I wish and hope to get a resolution as I am in a very bad situation and I was not willing to do a deal for loosing money.

sadly if Heisenberg63 is really planning on scamming you, there is a high chance that you won't get your money back. he'd either abandon his account or ignore you.

But i did not do that and I am still here trying to figure out what happened.

The use of the same LTC address(Lf3H5K7g6yGZGFNSd23zMZ36kvV7GkT8b3), on 2/18 and 3/9, makes this case fairly damning.

I cannot image why a scammer that stole the phone would provide the same LTC address as the original owner.

Need an answer for that one..

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.


ANY ONE GETS A MESSAGE FROM THAT TELEGRAM, JUST IGNORE IT AS IT WILL BE FROM THE SCAMMER NOT ME.

WOW!  Really shocked reading this.  Not saying what buyer or seller is saying is or is not true just that I have been dealing with Heisenberg63 FOR YEARS {but not in the last months) without issue. The "lost phone" excuse does sound kinda fluky though.

While he could have F'd up I'd bet that this will get fixed to everyone's satisfaction. Just seems so out of the norm for him.  Hopefully it gets resolved.

I really appreciate your feedback though and I am getting myself together and see what I can do. But first of all I am trying to secure every account I had on this fkn phone.

I'm assuming even if you lost your phone, it was secured with some form of password or key or something right? How would someone else have gotten into that? Also not sure if it's the same as other wallets, but do you have some backup recovery code for regaining access to your LTC wallet? If it's empty can you find where the funds were going to?

Don't want to have to remove the positive trust from a while ago 

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Something tells me @Heisenberg63 is lying and this is going to even look worse for him.

1. So someone stole his phone, guessed his password, face ID or fingerprint of the mobile phone and immediately logged into his telegram and Bitcointalk account and started scamming users in the middle of the deal? 
How sharp is that thief?
2. Heisenberg63 and the Phone thief share the same LTC address? 

[Nwada001]

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.

Like I don't buy this story, you lost your phone, and somehow the person who found the phone, or possibly the person who stole the phone, was able to pass your phone security without flashing and wiping that device.
 
Okay, let's assume the person was able to do that. How do they know about your business of digital card buying and selling?
And which crypto wallet do you make use of? Did you not add extra security to the wallet, or did you just leave your device unprotected?
 
And among all the wallets you might have on your mobile phone, why would the person who stole your phone choose to make use of the LTC address? I assume it was never the buyer who suggested that address from the beginning.
 
I was the first to comment on this post, and I was thinking you were just busy or lost access to your device, but with the whole twisted story, I'm beginning to think otherwise.

[zir787]

@Heisenberg63 would you mind explaining why the scammer using your address to scam people? and if the OP sent the LTC to your address, would you mind sending it back?

The chat just got cleared. I am glad I took screen shots of whatever I could.

do you have more screenshots of your previous dealings with him? if so, would you mind posting it too?

I wish and hope to get a resolution as I am in a very bad situation and I was not willing to do a deal for loosing money.

sadly if Heisenberg63 is really planning on scamming you, there is a high chance that you won't get your money back. he'd either abandon his account or ignore you.

But i did not do that and I am still here trying to figure out what happened.

The use of the same LTC address(Lf3H5K7g6yGZGFNSd23zMZ36kvV7GkT8b3), on 2/18 and 3/9, makes this case fairly damning.

I cannot image why a scammer that stole the phone would provide the same LTC address as the original owner.

Need an answer for that one..

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.


ANY ONE GETS A MESSAGE FROM THAT TELEGRAM, JUST IGNORE IT AS IT WILL BE FROM THE SCAMMER NOT ME.

WOW!  Really shocked reading this.  Not saying what buyer or seller is saying is or is not true just that I have been dealing with Heisenberg63 FOR YEARS {but not in the last months) without issue. The "lost phone" excuse does sound kinda fluky though.

While he could have F'd up I'd bet that this will get fixed to everyone's satisfaction. Just seems so out of the norm for him.  Hopefully it gets resolved.

I really appreciate your feedback though and I am getting myself together and see what I can do. But first of all I am trying to secure every account I had on this fkn phone.

This is since last week Friday @ Heisenberg63 that you have not offered me something that I paid for. At least solve the matter you have in hand right now by solving the matter here first. That will remove unwanted suspicions and put your account in good standing which will let you give time to fix your sales thread as well as your ID’s and wallets.

Please refund me or deliver me what I paid for.

[PX-Z]

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.

I checked the transaction of the ltc address Lf3H5K7g6yGZGFNSd23zMZ36kvV7GkT8b3, and there was new transaction just few hours ago, idk who you're dealing with that.

The date of OP and your last transaction was last March 9 with this txid
-> c08498d6df9717994c1f25cb823daf33adf609fe7071b9bccd691ddf2a1e8f9d
But it was sent few hours later to this address, this is probably an exchange address
-> LZEjckteAtWrugbsy9zU8VHEZ4iUiXo9Nm
Upon researching it is from binance based from whale-alert.

Upon checking the old transactions, your all outgoing transaction including all in February are going to this this address LZEjckteAtWrugbsy9zU8VHEZ4iUiXo9Nm. Don't tell me that this address or your exchange account was compromised too, and still using even on your latest transaction few hours ago?

Being curious why most of the outgoing transactions are going to binance hot wallet address, thinking why they provided the same address, realizing that it is binance itself who transfer those transactions. So this address Lf3H5K7g6yGZGFNSd23zMZ36kvV7GkT8b3 is an exchange address, which you tell us that was hacked too. Scammer using the same wallet as the original owner for scamming is something a scammer won't do.

[Heisenberg63]

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.

I checked the transaction of the ltc address Lf3H5K7g6yGZGFNSd23zMZ36kvV7GkT8b3, and there was new transaction just few hours ago, idk who you're dealing with that.

The date of OP and your last transaction was last March 9 with this txid
-> c08498d6df9717994c1f25cb823daf33adf609fe7071b9bccd691ddf2a1e8f9d
But it was sent few hours later to this address, this is probably an exchange address
-> LZEjckteAtWrugbsy9zU8VHEZ4iUiXo9Nm
Upon researching it is from binance based from whale-alert.

Upon checking the old transactions, your all outgoing transaction including all in February are going to this this address LZEjckteAtWrugbsy9zU8VHEZ4iUiXo9Nm. Don't tell me that this address or your exchange account was compromised too, and still using even on your latest transaction few hours ago?

Being curious why most of the outgoing transactions are going to binance hot wallet address, thinking why they provided the same address, realizing that it is binance itself who transfer those transactions. So this address Lf3H5K7g6yGZGFNSd23zMZ36kvV7GkT8b3 is an exchange address, which you tell us that was hacked too. Scammer using the same wallet as the original owner for scamming is something a scammer won't do.

I read every comment on this thread, Believe me no one is in my position and i hope no one will be in my situation. I was silly enough not to secure my accounts and my phone to make it easier to reach out my apps quicker and i never expected to get robbed like that. That guy could reach to my exchange and my other wallets too and I am trying to get in touch with the support to find out who did that and to even try to track him out. Anyways I will reach the op once I get the hella out of this hell and I will try to get the money to compensate him ofc i have a big loss already and ofc I am not a scammer and I do not like to see someone get scammed and I know many of you has dealt with me for years and they know that I am not a scammer.

Let me focus my reply here to the OP, Please be patient with me and I will reach you out and obviously if i am the on who scammed you, i would bother to reply here or even to try to solve this situation out.

[Coin_trader]

Don't want to have to remove the positive trust from a while ago 

If your feedback in the past is due to the successful deal then there’s no need to delete it because it’s backed by successful transactions worthy of positive feedback. Let the new negative feed do their work on giving warning to other user that will potentially have deals with the user. That’s why you should only give positive trust to user that shows trust worthy act and he deserves that during the time of your deal.

I read every comment on this thread, Believe me no one is in my position and i hope no one will be in my situation. I was silly enough not to secure my accounts and my phone to make it easier to reach out my apps quicker and i never expected to get robbed like that. That guy could reach to my exchange and my other wallets too and I am trying to get in touch with the support to find out who did that and to even try to track him out. Anyways I will reach the op once I get the hella out of this hell and I will try to get the money to compensate him ofc i have a big loss already and ofc I am not a scammer and I do not like to see someone get scammed and I know many of you has dealt with me for years and they know that I am not a scammer.

This is still vague excuse because how come a hacker can login your exchange account without knowing your password? Does your phone doesn’t have any security installed because the first thing thief will do on stolen gadget is to factory reset it to avoid being traced back by the owner.

There’s a feature on Android and Iphone that you can detect your device location when connected in the internet.

[albon]

I was silly enough not to secure my accounts and my phone to make it easier to reach out my apps quicker and i never expected to get robbed like that. That guy could reach to my exchange and my other wallets too.

Why couldn't the scammer hack your Bitcointalk account to prevent us from reading your lies? 

All the comments and evidence here condemn you and prove that you are involved in this scam, as your responses were as ridiculous as the one I am responding to now. How is it possible that you are responsible for a business here and your phone does not have 1% protection, and how could the scammer, if not you, have access to all of this? Is he a magician? How did you not notice everything that happened until after the OP posted this topic? You did not provide any evidence to defend yourself; it was just a blah blah, so take extra negative trust until you compensate the OP and return his stolen funds, which I believe you will not return to him again.

[LoyceV]

The use of the same LTC address(Lf3H5K7g6yGZGFNSd23zMZ36kvV7GkT8b3), on 2/18 and 3/9, makes this case fairly damning.

I cannot image why a scammer that stole the phone would provide the same LTC address as the original owner.

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.

I'm not buying it. In the past week, that address received 2 large transactions, and both took 2 hours to send the funds. If there's a (third party) scammer, he would have moved the funds a lot faster. If a scammer gained access to your wallet, you would have moved the funds by yourself a lot faster.

[Heisenberg63]

I am sick of explaining everything to you guy and you keep blaming me as if i was the scammer, i am in a very bad situation and all of what you are doing is that you are seeming me that i was the scammer. I can not respond to every comment but my talk is now to the OP, give me a day or two and I will share the loss with you and will send you money you paid to that scammer back.

[zir787]

I am sick of explaining everything to you guy and you keep blaming me as if i was the scammer, i am in a very bad situation and all of what you are doing is that you are seeming me that i was the scammer. I can not respond to every comment but my talk is now to the OP, give me a day or two and I will share the loss with you and will send you money you paid to that scammer back.

Sure I am waiting for another day or two as you are asking for.

I will be waiting to hear from you.

[examplens]

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.

Which wallet did you use on your phone?
As far as I know, every mobile wallet requires a password or PIN, and this cannot be reset even with access to email or a SIM card.
I guess you didn't keep the note with all the passwords on your phone.

I am sick of explaining everything to you guy and you keep blaming me as if i was the scammer, i am in a very bad situation and all of what you are doing is that you are seeming me that i was the scammer. I can not respond to every comment but my talk is now to the OP, give me a day or two and I will share the loss with you and will send you money you paid to that scammer back.

Don't be angry with anyone, because your explanations have no rational basis. Obviously, it has to wait one or two more days.

[NotATether]

I am sick of explaining everything to you guy and you keep blaming me as if i was the scammer, i am in a very bad situation and all of what you are doing is that you are seeming me that i was the scammer. I can not respond to every comment but my talk is now to the OP, give me a day or two and I will share the loss with you and will send you money you paid to that scammer back.

Why don't you reset the Telegram account by email?

You did add an email address to the Telegram, I hope?

If your account had a 2FA password on it then you should still be able to lock them out somehow during the account reset process, unless the hacker changed the password to your telegram account (I dunno, by breaking open the password manager or something?)

Phone number is not the only way to log into Telegram.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.

So he got your phone, he got your wallet, what else he got?
Your email, laptop, your door key, your spouse.

You must be doing a big business online. How much is your yearly turnover?

[acroman08]

I am sick of explaining everything to you guy and you keep blaming me as if i was the scammer, i am in a very bad situation and all of what you are doing is that you are seeming me that i was the scammer.

you have to realize that you can't really blame us that we are suspecting you especially when your story is very suspicious and hard to believe. there is even new evidence that just further makes your story a lot more suspicious.

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.

Which wallet did you use on your phone?
As far as I know, every mobile wallet requires a password or PIN, and this cannot be reset even with access to email or a SIM card.
I guess you didn't keep the note with all the passwords on your phone.

just want to let you know that you misquoted zir787, it was Heisenberg63 who wrote that.

[Heisenberg63]

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.

So he got your phone, he got your wallet, what else he got?
Your email, laptop, your door key, your spouse.

You must be doing a big business online. How much is your yearly turnover?

If you were my spouse, I will let him have you. Just fuck off if you do not know how to say appropriate things in such cases.

I am sick of explaining everything to you guy and you keep blaming me as if i was the scammer, i am in a very bad situation and all of what you are doing is that you are seeming me that i was the scammer. I can not respond to every comment but my talk is now to the OP, give me a day or two and I will share the loss with you and will send you money you paid to that scammer back.

Sure I am waiting for another day or two as you are asking for.

I will be waiting to hear from you.

I am sending you a message now about the payment.

[zir787]

Because he emptied my wallet as well, I think he used my wallet not to raise any suspicions with my guys.

So he got your phone, he got your wallet, what else he got?
Your email, laptop, your door key, your spouse.

You must be doing a big business online. How much is your yearly turnover?

If you were my spouse, I will let him have you. Just fuck off if you do not know how to say appropriate things in such cases.

I am sick of explaining everything to you guy and you keep blaming me as if i was the scammer, i am in a very bad situation and all of what you are doing is that you are seeming me that i was the scammer. I can not respond to every comment but my talk is now to the OP, give me a day or two and I will share the loss with you and will send you money you paid to that scammer back.

Sure I am waiting for another day or two as you are asking for.

I will be waiting to hear from you.

I am sending you a message now about the payment.

Noted! Will reply on message.