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March 16, 2024, 03:55:55 PM
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This all comes back to each individual. Where there are some people who bet for the reason of adding sensation and pleasure when watching the matches they are taking part in, especially matches of their favorite club. in other words, they enjoy the match more than the bets they place. But there are also those who bet just to make a profit, so they always consider every opportunity in the bets they place, even if they have to bet against their papvotrit team. Because when the prediction results show that the opposing team is stronger than our favorite team. So it would be stupid if we bet on a weaker team. And people who bet like this, they tend to like the bet more than the game. But as a fan, of course this is unethical behavior, and can violate the code of ethics as a fan. Where as fans we should be able to respect the integrity of pair play. As fans of a certain team, we must have confidence that our favorite team will always try to give their best so as not to disappoint their fans.
If we already love a team then we don't care about the odds given by the bookie and even though realistically the chance of losing is much greater then it won't affect us, because in my opinion it is no longer the mind or brain that speaks, but the heart that speaks.
I have a story about this, this is the experience of a friend of mine who happens to be a supporter of one of the local teams in my country. He will do anything to support his favorite team, until one day his favorite team faces the team at the top of the standings. He asked me to help him find an opponent to bet on at that time, I was a little confused because logically his team would definitely lose, but he insisted on still looking for an opponent to bet on (he made individual bets, not from a gambling site).
From that experience, I believe that a fanatical fan doesn't care about the status of the opponent he or she will face, because usually they will always believe that their favorite team will win and that's why at the beginning I said they had used their heart.
But if we think rationally, sometimes such things waste our time and money because in the end we already know the chances are high that the club we love will lose a match especially when looking at previous poor performances (for example) but we are too forced just because of the thrill and love without thinking about others, this has a worse impact on our finances because we do not do rational thinking and only maintain ego.
This condition is not justified for gambling, it's just that everyone has their own views on it and because of our love for a club sometimes it makes us blind to the conditions we support considering the ambition and ego we have too big to admit it.

It is not wrong if we have more finances and are ready to spend money on an unnecessary condition but on the other hand, we also cannot always force things like this because after all, betting is based on a condition so that we benefit not to let the money we have go to waste.

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March 16, 2024, 04:52:22 PM
 #122

While in a football view centre last night, some of the football fans were arguing with the opposite football fans strongly defending their teams.

There one of the team guy said... Yes we loosed the match but that does not mean I will deny my team for that because the nature of football is that you would win somedays and you looses somedays too.
So he say... I love my team to the core that I will always stand by them and even if it is obvious that they were going to loose a match, I will still bet in support that they would win the match.

Question: Can you have so much love for your team to behave like this guy that even when you know your love fans team would loose a match, would you still further stake on the match against your team?
Remember that we are catching funs here and whoever chasing after profits is at its own will.


If I were to be asked if I would do what he did? I would answer yes, why? Maybe that's my way to show that I support them even if they win or lose. It's just like normal idolization, isn't it? Sometimes even with the amount of negative things and issues we hear about the person we admire, we still can't get the person we idolize to get angry or let go. It's the same when it comes to this game, especially when it comes to sports. Since not everyone watching there are really fans, the others are just there for betting and gambling so for me there is no issue if I will bet even if I know I will lose the money I bet because I am there to support and enjoy.


lol it's serious, man if you want to support a team you buy their t-shirts, go to the stadium, go on a trip where they want them to play, create a fans brave club, make positive content for the team (Social networks), but burn money on a bet on your team That's not supporting the team, that's supporting the casino.

There is a different context, when your team has real possibilities, I made a thread in that sense.
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March 16, 2024, 05:04:04 PM
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While in a football view centre last night, some of the football fans were arguing with the opposite football fans strongly defending their teams.

There one of the team guy said... Yes we loosed the match but that does not mean I will deny my team for that because the nature of football is that you would win somedays and you looses somedays too.
So he say... I love my team to the core that I will always stand by them and even if it is obvious that they were going to loose a match, I will still bet in support that they would win the match.

Question: Can you have so much love for your team to behave like this guy that even when you know your love fans team would loose a match, would you still further stake on the match against your team?
Remember that we are catching funs here and whoever chasing after profits is at its own will.

My buddy has a different view from you on this. He calls it the "happiness hedge." Basically, he bets against the team he's rooting for (at small amounts). If they lose, he's happy because he wins some money. If they win, he's happy because his team won. Feels like some gambler's logic to me lol but for him it works. I guess the main principle he follows is that he never puts in too much money to the point where he'd be sad if he lost.

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March 16, 2024, 06:14:48 PM
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When comes to betting on matches, I believe I would still rather to go for a pragmatic way and only bet on the team which I am more inclined to believe is going to win the match.
If there is a match where my favorite team or national team would be participating, I would rather not to bet, as an alternative to bet against them, but to me as a better it would be pretty illogical to bet in favor of a team which I would not believe to be capable of winning the match.
Sport bets are all about fun and also money, after all, and losing money on purpose because betting on a team which is bad would certainly spoil my fun. Though, because of the bad reputation of the team and his low chances of winning, scoring a win with them would likely mean pretty good multipliers.

In short, it is healthier not to bet unless you are sure you could win and you won't later regret your choice.

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March 16, 2024, 06:31:31 PM
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Can you have so much love for your team to behave like this guy that even when you know your love fans team would loose a match, would you still further stake on the match against your team?
Remember that we are catching funs here and whoever chasing after profits is at its own will.

The truth is that when it comes to gambling the only thing in our mind is the possibility of wining, so I see no reason why a gambler will see an opportunity to win a game and choose not to bet because of the reason that he will be betting against his club, although I wouldn't doubt if there are people like that because there people who love a particular club that no matter anything they will never bet against them, so actually for me if I see a good opportunity, no matter how the club is to me I will always bet on the wining side because the only reason of gambling is to win bet, so if a gambler sees an opportunity to win and decided not to bet because of the club, perhaps maybe he is not ready to gamble.

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March 16, 2024, 06:38:12 PM
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It can't be avoided by those people who have been following their favorite team since then, even before the start of their gambling journey. I have also been in the same situation many times where regardless of the odds, I need to bet on my favorite team even if the chances of losing are high.

The good thing about that is, if my favorite team is the underdog expect that the odds for the Moneyline to them is high.

If they were able to upset the opposing team, expect a juicy winning in return.

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March 16, 2024, 06:40:44 PM
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Question: Can you have so much love for your team to behave like this guy that even when you know your love fans team would loose a match, would you still further stake on the match against your team?
Remember that we are catching funs here and whoever chasing after profits is at its own will.
This here just draws the line between pro gamblers and amateur gamblers... When you are a pro gambler and know that your team doesn't have what it takes to win, you bet against them...but for those that want to show love for the team and not agree that they don't have the firepower defines who an amateur gambler is here!!

When it comes to a fan's clash, everyone is suppose to rally behind their team regardless of how big or small the club is but when talking about gambling,you can't walk the talk...let's go in for the money 💸💰. But then again, gambling being gambling, you can never be so sure that the favourite will always win which is why you never stake all your balance as risk management is king!

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March 16, 2024, 06:52:16 PM
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Gamblers can be nasty in some behaviors  and i cant be in any means thrown into surprise when i heard that some can go to such extent, though things like this happens more frequently on those that make bets and they stake money into it and not that someone will deliberately gamble knowing that he will lose but fir the love he had on the team, to me, i will consider such as a waste of money, the team can not be responsible to any of your loyalty or disloyalty on them because your take on them affect nothing about whom they stand to be or what to achieve.

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I know some friends that plays opposite of popular teams in some selected matches. Withe this they are able to combine two to four matches and they will realized big odds that they will bet small amount to target massive winning. They rarely win but when they win, t is usually massive. Another thing about such still is it usually involves small amount of bets to for huge wins. I have tried playing this pattern sometimes but I have not been lucky to win it so I don't keep at it on a regular basis, just once in a while I try it and pray for luck

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March 16, 2024, 07:25:07 PM
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Occasional sport bettor may choose to do it even I did same and it's purely because I love that team but the amount I bet is very minimal and almost close to couple of dollars only and It's not gonna affect me if I lose which is understandable but the other way of going big on an obvious losing team is jumping from the cliff and land on safe place.

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March 16, 2024, 07:25:40 PM
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Gamblers can be nasty in some behaviors  and i cant be in any means thrown into surprise when i heard that some can go to such extent, though things like this happens more frequently on those that make bets and they stake money into it and not that someone will deliberately gamble knowing that he will lose but fir the love he had on the team, to me, i will consider such as a waste of money, the team can not be responsible to any of your loyalty or disloyalty on them because your take on them affect nothing about whom they stand to be or what to achieve.
I really agree with you, if we bet on a team that is very sure that it cannot win the bet and place a bet because of love for that team, of course this is a waste of money in the bets we play and it would be better for us to just watch the match without placing a bet. a bet that we really can't win and what we do is of course a very stupid thing because betting has nothing to do with the team we love and if we do have a favorite team of course we always support them in various ways but if we bet there is no relationship with our love for the team.

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March 16, 2024, 07:30:35 PM
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This all comes back to each individual. Where there are some people who bet for the reason of adding sensation and pleasure when watching the matches they are taking part in, especially matches of their favorite club. in other words, they enjoy the match more than the bets they place. But there are also those who bet just to make a profit, so they always consider every opportunity in the bets they place, even if they have to bet against their papvotrit team. Because when the prediction results show that the opposing team is stronger than our favorite team. So it would be stupid if we bet on a weaker team. And people who bet like this, they tend to like the bet more than the game. But as a fan, of course this is unethical behavior, and can violate the code of ethics as a fan. Where as fans we should be able to respect the integrity of pair play. As fans of a certain team, we must have confidence that our favorite team will always try to give their best so as not to disappoint their fans.
If we already love a team then we don't care about the odds given by the bookie and even though realistically the chance of losing is much greater then it won't affect us, because in my opinion it is no longer the mind or brain that speaks, but the heart that speaks.
I have a story about this, this is the experience of a friend of mine who happens to be a supporter of one of the local teams in my country. He will do anything to support his favorite team, until one day his favorite team faces the team at the top of the standings. He asked me to help him find an opponent to bet on at that time, I was a little confused because logically his team would definitely lose, but he insisted on still looking for an opponent to bet on (he made individual bets, not from a gambling site).
From that experience, I believe that a fanatical fan doesn't care about the status of the opponent he or she will face, because usually they will always believe that their favorite team will win and that's why at the beginning I said they had used their heart.
Your friend's story shows how sports become belief fights. Fans like him reflect the ethos of standing by your choices no matter what. This is a double-edged weapon, don't kid yourself. Bets on passion can be as dangerous as walking a tightrope over a chasm

The bookie stakes? They're probabilities, not fate. However, the heart's roar sometimes overshadows them, demonstrating human resilience and perseverance. A wonderful human quirk, this isn't folly. Even against overwhelming evidence, we're wired to follow our passions. Having this knowledge can empower you. This implies we may commit profoundly and believe strongly in the face of adversity

However, regulating this feature is wise. Support your team, wear your heart on your sleeve, but maintain perspective. The smart distinguishes themselves from the sentimental by balancing heart and head. Making informed decisions while enjoying the raw, pure emotion that makes sports and life exhilarating. May we gracefully walk this tightrope? Absolutely. It demands a potent mix of loyalty and smart thinking, as intriguing as the games we love to gamble on

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March 16, 2024, 07:40:52 PM
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While in a football view centre last night, some of the football fans were arguing with the opposite football fans strongly defending their teams.
Some people are die hard fans of their club, no matter how poor the club is performing, they will keep on supporting the club, even when they notice their club is performing so poorly, they will always look for excuses to justify their poor performance, actually I also do this often, no matter how my club performs poorly, I will always support them in public, but deep down, I do always feel bad, but nobody will know.

I love my team to the core that I will always stand by them and even if it is obvious that they were going to loose a match, I will still bet in support that they would win the match.
Whenever my club is not in form, I do end up gambling on them in some matches, even if I know they are going to lose, I just derive joy by doing that, but I do use just little amount of money to place bets on matches like that, even when I lose, I won’t even feel it.

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March 16, 2024, 08:33:06 PM
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Some gamblers view betting on their favorite team as an extension of their fandom.  It's a way to add another layer of excitement to the game, a chance to "put their money where their mouth is."  Imagine a die-hard fan, decked out in team colors, celebrating not just a win, but also a successful wager.  For them, it's about solidarity, a financial expression of their unwavering loyalty.

There's a counterpoint: the emotionless analyst.  They see sports betting as a business transaction, devoid of sentiment.  They detach themselves from any emotional ties to a team, focusing solely on statistics and betting odds.  Imagine a poker player, analyzing every detail, making calculated decisions based on cold, hard logic. Both approaches have merit.  The "fan" approach injects passion into the experience, but can lead to biased decisions.  The "analyst" approach prioritizes logic, but might lack the visceral thrill of victory.

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March 16, 2024, 08:47:15 PM
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Blind passion shouldn't cloud judgment when it comes to sports betting.  Unlike your friend who lets emotions dictate his bets, you understand the importance of analyzing matchups objectively.  Imagine a chess player, meticulously evaluating the strengths and weaknesses of each piece before making a move.

Refusing to bet against your favorite team is a sound strategy.  Emotional attachment can cloud your ability to assess their true chances of winning.  It's like wearing rose-colored glasses – you see your team as invincible, even when they're not.

Supporting your team goes beyond winning wagers.  You highlight the importance of official merchandise and attending club events.  These actions directly contribute to the club's financial well-being, allowing them to attract better players and enhance the overall experience for fans.  Imagine a stadium filled with passionate supporters, their cheers a tangible expression of their love for the game and their team.

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March 16, 2024, 09:05:51 PM
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What ill make clear for you OP is there is no passion in betting. My younger brother plays 8 ball pool, most times he face some tough opponent and i do bet against him because i feel they would win. Always understand that familiarity, blood and love should not be considered in gambling. If you are to take any hard choice let it be that your taking a very high risk and you are aware of it, sometimes it works for us.

By now the answer should be clear. I wont bet on an odd that would most likely not enter for me. I bet my money on an odd with higher probability.

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March 16, 2024, 09:14:02 PM
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Op is like you are new to supporting football team. I have seen die hard football fans in my community and even in where I am schooling. And before you choose a football team support, you have to believe the team with all your mind and support them. And that is what the team also needs. The team needs your support that will give them morals to play and win matches.
There is a girl I know that supporting Arsenal and if Arsenal lose games she still support them. So what that fan is saying is the truth. Even their team lose they still support them. Example, upon all the loses Chelsea has been incurred they still have enough fans and whenever Chelsea wins a game they would be very happy and jubilating. But if they know that their team lose frequently then when the team play games they would not bet with big amount but small amount. But if others are playing they would bet with big amount. But that one too is depends on the team that is playing with them. If fans know that the opposition team is not strong enough to play with their team then they'll bet big amount.

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While in a football view centre last night, some of the football fans were arguing with the opposite football fans strongly defending their teams.

There one of the team guy said... Yes we loosed the match but that does not mean I will deny my team for that because the nature of football is that you would win somedays and you looses somedays too.
So he say... I love my team to the core that I will always stand by them and even if it is obvious that they were going to loose a match, I will still bet in support that they would win the match.

Question: Can you have so much love for your team to behave like this guy that even when you know your love fans team would loose a match, would you still further stake on the match against your team?
Remember that we are catching funs here and whoever chasing after profits is at its own will.
For the hell of it, yeah.

Thing is, and this may not fall that much in topic since we're talking about football teams here, I'm an avid Valorant ESports enjoyer and viewer, and one of the biggest teams that I root for consistently is always Sentinels. They won the first ever official Valorant tournament back in 2021, but since then they have fallen from grace and have lost multiple games and tournaments due to bad playstyle, irrelevant tactics and a general sense of losing the competitive drive they had when they first played in the LAN servers(and only until recently did they start to show that they are one of the best teams on the planet for this game). Despite this I have remained an avid fan of them, and have made pub bets with friends in favor of Sentinels even though I know they have little to no chance of ever winning again.

The thing is that it doesn't even do anything to amp and increase the morale of the team whatsoever, I just do it because I love the whole roster and I want to support them whichever way I can even if it doesn't make sense. As of now, they have been making waves and have been getting their comeback storyline recently. Hoping they show more prowess the rest of the tournament.

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March 16, 2024, 09:53:20 PM
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We all know that football is a game of passion and entertainment be it that your team win or losses yet we still keep supporting them but not when money is involved.

Football is really a game of passion and we see different strange behaviors and actions being displayed by supporters in weird ways of showing support.
But I haven’t yet met anyone that would be willing to part away with money to place bets that is most likely to come out not in his favor. When a scenario where parting of money is involved, we tend to think more clearly unless of course we’re thinking out of a place of greed.
We could buy loads of merch in show of support but placing bets when the outcome is obviously isn’t in your favor in a show of support is quite unheard of.
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I love my team to the core that I will always stand by them and even if it is obvious that they were going to loose a match, I will still bet in support that they would win the match.
That is not making any sense.

Question: Can you have so much love for your team to behave like this guy that even when you know your love fans team would loose a match, would you still further stake on the match against your team?
Remember that we are catching funs here and whoever chasing after profits is at its own will.
Why would I? When I am not stupid. If I know a club would win my team, I will stake on the other club.

Gambling is not about betting on your team to win.
If you focus on mere profits, you will definitely bet on a team that has higher probability to win, to the extent of even leaving your own team. However, other people might do the opposite and instead stick to their favorite team even if it’s obvious that they’ll lose eventually, just to show support or love to the team. With this, they are actually beating their purpose why they are gambling. Gambling is not a fan game, and those who have a lot of fans or supporters will win, but basically it’s based on luck and skills on the team itself to win over the opponents.

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