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Author Topic: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?  (Read 1403 times)
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March 15, 2024, 11:59:12 AM
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I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content


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March 15, 2024, 12:03:10 PM
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That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

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March 15, 2024, 12:12:11 PM
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This is because of these content creators who abuse their followers with deceptive marketing that if they are going to join using his link they will likely make a lot of money, they even show how they won a lot of money from manipulative spins on their dashboard.

The bill should be specific on who gets penalized not just random people who just posted their winnings or announced the winning numbers.

The bill is good for curbing the deceptive promotion of gambling you can make a lot of money if you gamble, there should be provisions and specifics so you don't put innocent people in jail or fine them.

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March 15, 2024, 12:14:56 PM
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So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.


This bill was filed by Senator Robin Padilla which is an actor. The current bill content will surely revised before it was approved. I think the root of this bill is due to the current trend on our local influencers that is now shifted to gambling content that result to encouraging more user that just browsing social media to gamble instead.

I read the full scope of the bill, posting screenshots is not covered by the bill since you are not instructing or demonstrating gambling to someone but rather just posting proof of your win. Unless you include a comment that encouraged reader to gamble using your screenshot then you are liable for your action. But simply sharing of screenshots of your profit is not illegal.

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March 15, 2024, 12:21:42 PM
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It's a weird way of trying to control the reach of gambling. The similar strategy can be seen with alcohol and cigarettes in some countries.
The government do want to restrict people from gambling specially young individuals who are more prone to be attracted by advertisement.
The reason they are not willing to outright ban gambling is the taxes involved and the contribution it makes to the economy. An outright ban also would increase the number of underground casinos and lotteries. Letting people advertise about gambling would cause voices to ban gambling from the general public as most of the society does consider gambling a bad thing.



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March 15, 2024, 12:22:11 PM
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This must have something to do with those vloggers that add gambling sites in the last part of their videos. Is the bill wrong? No, I don't think so. Kids and teenagers are watching those videos and they end up being exposed to those 21+ advertisements.
Worst, these vloggers show how to play the game, and the way they present it, they are urging the viewers to play the game. They will show how much they won, not thinking about how gambling really works. Maybe they did win but it doesn't mean everyone will end up like that because a gambling site is still a business and it would go bankrupt if all players will win. Some will lose most likely.
There's a big difference between the content of food or comedy with added gambling site ads in the end and a gambling streamer who only focuses on gambling. They can easily be filtered unlike those I said who are posting it on social media where kids might bump into them as a recommended video and end up watching it until the end.

I think this is just to filter them because they cannot check every video as it will consume time. It's much better if a bill is filed and then everything will follow. It's a warning obviously, for they could've just arrested them now if they want but there's too many of them doing that thing and prison will be crowded.

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Many content creators are making a lot of money from promoting these online casinos through deceptive marketing, the payout is $1k to $2k per stream or promotion on their content, I always unsubscribe content creators that I followed because of their deceptive marketing.

It becomes alarming because there are a lot of minors on social media, and the scheme is they show their content in the first minute of their video, and in the last minute of their video, they will show gambling content and entice people to use their code to join.
These are the target of this bill and hopefully, it will help minors from getting hooked on gambling because of these content creators.

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March 15, 2024, 12:36:02 PM
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Yes.

Fun fact about these in my country, they're chasing people who have a good number of follower and income revenues. They caught you and then you know the next, some of asset getting seized.

IMO country promotion with influencer with 2,000-10,000+ Follower for Gambling is quite high right now.

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Online promotions can be seen by children who are not yet ready to use gambling services. Online marketing algorithms such as Adsense use tracked browsing history on the device, this allows someone to see casino advertisements that are not targeted at the right marketing target. Fraud, also often occurs due to online advertising and marketing, perhaps the government in your country wants to limit fraudulent activities from online casino advertising. Streamers may not invite us to gamble on the services they use directly. However, some viewers will decide to gamble because they are interested in winning, not when the streamer loses. there are many reasonable reasons that can be obtained from this decision.

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March 15, 2024, 12:45:40 PM
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I am so surprised to read this but of course the government just want to make sure the the citizens are not misled into gambling for money, as most influencers on media make gambling look very easy and would not let the people know the disadvantages of gambling. The ad on gambling is the same on trading.

This bill will help the children who are growing up not to put much attention on gambling because it will not be seen online or in medias in the country. However, those citizens that watch football, like international leagues or some other kind of entertainment that promotes gamble, might still be tempted to gamble since the law is just only in your country.

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        -   Right now this is only a proposed bill, but I hope it becomes a law to stop the fraud of the lying influencers who do their live streaming for the content because many minors are also involved in their promotion, which includes fraud on their viewers.

I like the proposed bill made by Robin Padilla, although most of what Robin is doing is just grandstanding and stupidity, except for that matter. I hope it becomes a law to punish influencers who promote illegal gambling.

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I read the bill and this is the part I like the most. I think they have a point.
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The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities.

Padilla noted the links of gambling to addiction, criminal activities, and social issues that destroy the moral fiber of the nation.

Gambling addiction is a pandemic. It cripples the society and increase the mental health burden on any nation. If the youth, the young people who are supposed to be working and being productive for the nation are struggling with gambling addiction how can such a nation prosper and compete globally.

On the other hand, there also be a bill for the establishment of mental health institutions to rehabilitate gambling addicts and this services should be offered at a subsidized rate to enable people from low economic status be beneficiaries because it is mostly low income earners who are battling gambling addiction.

@robelneo Do you have any of such Health Bill in your country?

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March 15, 2024, 12:53:03 PM
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I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content

Its not strange law this is been done so those influencers will not abuse their influence and promote gambling thru their channels but we don't see any news regarding about this case where if there's someone got penalize for promoting gambling online or anywhere. It seems they are just creating that law just to present something that they take action but it doesn't get any proper implementation. We can still see that there's a lot of influencers promote online gambling and some of them are over exaggerated with their results and always says that its easy to earn a lot of money in gambling that's why there's people got hook by some idea installed on their heads and been totally got wrecked and their hard earned money gone because unwanted loss has occur to them.

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March 15, 2024, 01:00:02 PM
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In my opinion, his statement is in accordance with the law, if gambling is legal in a country then when we advertise online it is legal. Because with a statement the state legalizes it, because advertising it is one way for us to make a profit. In my opinion, many governments are indifferent to the gambling that is advertised online. Even though gambling is illegal in the country. There are several cases of people who gamble online and they find out one night that the authorities catch them, it makes me confused, because it's not just him who gambles online, I'm sure there are other friends who gamble online too or maybe unless the authorities dig up Information from him should say that anyone who gambles online will be arrested a lot, but in reality this is not the case, as long as online gambling has existed and has been busy until now, I have only come across news of the arrest of online gambling players only twice.

And conversely, when the state prohibits gambling or makes it illegal, and we advertise gambling online or carry out gambling online, it could become a problem that involves dealing with the law and ending up in prison if the government is strict in the legal regulations set out. Because in fact it's not like that in my country, even though gambling is prohibited there are still many who gamble and advertise gambling online. And they are fine, maybe that's because the government is too relaxed in handling cases. There are also those who gamble live streaming with the aim of gaining other benefits from the large number of people watching, but sometimes they wear masks, perhaps they really want to hide their personal identity. In fact, I think that even though online gambling in my country is prohibited, it is not an obstacle, they are not afraid to do it, and I have heard the answer from one of them. When I asked them why they dared to gamble online or advertise gambling online, and their answer was "the rules are made to be prohibited" I was a little surprised, but it couldn't be hidden that many people in my community did not comply with the regulations. it has been made by the government.

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That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

The law is definitely much deeper than what people think about it. The main target of this proposed bill is to crackdown those influencers with high volume of followers that encouraging their followers to gamble. However they are putting a disclaimer on gambling yet they are blatantly inviting all their viewers to register under their link and entertaining them to encourage to gamble.

I watch a lot of this streamer on my facebook and they kinda annoying now since I follow them due to their online gaming content while they are now focus on gambling content that I don’t like to see frequently on my social media wall.

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I guess the politician who proposed this bill is against gambling legalization, right? But to forbid gambling at once would be unlikely, so he has to censor it step by step until reaching the final goal of completely forbidding gambling in your country. This time he wants to cease any kind of gambling publications, but let's say the bill passes, so it's possible he will come with something else, restricting the activity more and more each new bill he proposes.

However, it's just a pending bill, like many others you have in your country. Many of those bills are ridiculous, contradictory and will never get passed by the legislative house. Anyway, I wouldn't worry too much about it, because if gambling is legal in your country, it doesn't make sense people are going to be forbidden from talking about it on the internet... It doesn't make any sense. Cheesy

There is also a chance this politician is just wanting to get some attention from the media and from the public who is against gambling in your country, because his bill is really weak, pointless and incongruous with the reality of the country.

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To me, this law seems like a lot of hypocrisy. Because they are punishing or jailing people for advertising gambling instead of banning it. Although I do not know the details of this law, this is the first time I knew it from you and after knowing this, the first question that arises in my mind is that what is their main purpose behind the implementation of this law? If they are really doing this to save the young generation or their people from the dark side of gambling then they should have banned gambling first. However, they have done the opposite. In my country, casino gambling is completely banned and those who are involved in it, whether it is advertising or management, are brought under the law. A few days ago, a famous celebrity YouTuber of our country had to go to jail for advertising gambling.

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That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.
This is not strange or new. Some governments see gambling promotions not appropriate or not appropriate to under 18 in the public and discourage the promotion. Any media you will see kids, the government will not let gambling site to do any promotions there. It is something that I like because it will help against underage gambling.

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So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

I realized from the post you shared that you are from Philippines, I think if we look at the types of countries in ASEAN, that rule is a good rule. Because we come from a developing country, which means that gamblers are not fully aware of the dangers of gambling when they become problem gamblers.

Not only you , we also have regulations that are a little confusing but good, for example, cigarettes are legal in our country, but TV stations are not allowed to broadcast cigarette advertisements below 10 PM.

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I believe sach kind of contradictory rule exists because of a greater good. Making people fall for a financial trap has become very easy in today's generation. So an influencer can easily provide false information to his followers in order to make money. Probably that's why the government had the ruled out such laws.

In my country, it is illegal to provide stock market related tips in any public platform. I mean no influencer can say whether you should buy or not buy a stock. Both are similar. This is to avoid influence in the market.

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