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Title: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: robelneo on March 15, 2024, 11:59:12 AM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: SamReomo on March 15, 2024, 12:03:10 PM
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: aioc on March 15, 2024, 12:12:11 PM
This is because of these content creators who abuse their followers with deceptive marketing that if they are going to join using his link they will likely make a lot of money, they even show how they won a lot of money from manipulative spins on their dashboard.

The bill should be specific on who gets penalized not just random people who just posted their winnings or announced the winning numbers.

The bill is good for curbing the deceptive promotion of gambling you can make a lot of money if you gamble, there should be provisions and specifics so you don't put innocent people in jail or fine them.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Wapfika on March 15, 2024, 12:14:56 PM

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.


This bill was filed by Senator Robin Padilla which is an actor. The current bill content will surely revised before it was approved. I think the root of this bill is due to the current trend on our local influencers that is now shifted to gambling content that result to encouraging more user that just browsing social media to gamble instead.

I read the full scope of the bill, posting screenshots is not covered by the bill since you are not instructing or demonstrating gambling to someone but rather just posting proof of your win. Unless you include a comment that encouraged reader to gamble using your screenshot then you are liable for your action. But simply sharing of screenshots of your profit is not illegal.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: tsaroz on March 15, 2024, 12:21:42 PM
It's a weird way of trying to control the reach of gambling. The similar strategy can be seen with alcohol and cigarettes in some countries.
The government do want to restrict people from gambling specially young individuals who are more prone to be attracted by advertisement.
The reason they are not willing to outright ban gambling is the taxes involved and the contribution it makes to the economy. An outright ban also would increase the number of underground casinos and lotteries. Letting people advertise about gambling would cause voices to ban gambling from the general public as most of the society does consider gambling a bad thing.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: danherbias07 on March 15, 2024, 12:22:11 PM
This must have something to do with those vloggers that add gambling sites in the last part of their videos. Is the bill wrong? No, I don't think so. Kids and teenagers are watching those videos and they end up being exposed to those 21+ advertisements.
Worst, these vloggers show how to play the game, and the way they present it, they are urging the viewers to play the game. They will show how much they won, not thinking about how gambling really works. Maybe they did win but it doesn't mean everyone will end up like that because a gambling site is still a business and it would go bankrupt if all players will win. Some will lose most likely.
There's a big difference between the content of food or comedy with added gambling site ads in the end and a gambling streamer who only focuses on gambling. They can easily be filtered unlike those I said who are posting it on social media where kids might bump into them as a recommended video and end up watching it until the end.

I think this is just to filter them because they cannot check every video as it will consume time. It's much better if a bill is filed and then everything will follow. It's a warning obviously, for they could've just arrested them now if they want but there's too many of them doing that thing and prison will be crowded.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: coin-investor on March 15, 2024, 12:31:30 PM
Many content creators are making a lot of money from promoting these online casinos through deceptive marketing, the payout is $1k to $2k per stream or promotion on their content, I always unsubscribe content creators that I followed because of their deceptive marketing.

It becomes alarming because there are a lot of minors on social media, and the scheme is they show their content in the first minute of their video, and in the last minute of their video, they will show gambling content and entice people to use their code to join.
These are the target of this bill and hopefully, it will help minors from getting hooked on gambling because of these content creators.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: ryzaadit on March 15, 2024, 12:36:02 PM
Yes.

Fun fact about these in my country, they're chasing people who have a good number of follower and income revenues. They caught you and then you know the next, some of asset getting seized.

IMO country promotion with influencer with 2,000-10,000+ Follower for Gambling is quite high right now.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: masulum on March 15, 2024, 12:37:45 PM
Online promotions can be seen by children who are not yet ready to use gambling services. Online marketing algorithms such as Adsense use tracked browsing history on the device, this allows someone to see casino advertisements that are not targeted at the right marketing target. Fraud, also often occurs due to online advertising and marketing, perhaps the government in your country wants to limit fraudulent activities from online casino advertising. Streamers may not invite us to gamble on the services they use directly. However, some viewers will decide to gamble because they are interested in winning, not when the streamer loses. there are many reasonable reasons that can be obtained from this decision.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Frankolala on March 15, 2024, 12:45:40 PM
I am so surprised to read this but of course the government just want to make sure the the citizens are not misled into gambling for money, as most influencers on media make gambling look very easy and would not let the people know the disadvantages of gambling. The ad on gambling is the same on trading.

This bill will help the children who are growing up not to put much attention on gambling because it will not be seen online or in medias in the country. However, those citizens that watch football, like international leagues or some other kind of entertainment that promotes gamble, might still be tempted to gamble since the law is just only in your country.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on March 15, 2024, 12:48:39 PM
        -   Right now this is only a proposed bill, but I hope it becomes a law to stop the fraud of the lying influencers who do their live streaming for the content because many minors are also involved in their promotion, which includes fraud on their viewers.

I like the proposed bill made by Robin Padilla, although most of what Robin is doing is just grandstanding and stupidity, except for that matter. I hope it becomes a law to punish influencers who promote illegal gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: alastantiger on March 15, 2024, 12:49:39 PM
I read the bill and this is the part I like the most. I think they have a point.
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The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities.

Padilla noted the links of gambling to addiction, criminal activities, and social issues that destroy the moral fiber of the nation.

Gambling addiction is a pandemic. It cripples the society and increase the mental health burden on any nation. If the youth, the young people who are supposed to be working and being productive for the nation are struggling with gambling addiction how can such a nation prosper and compete globally.

On the other hand, there also be a bill for the establishment of mental health institutions to rehabilitate gambling addicts and this services should be offered at a subsidized rate to enable people from low economic status be beneficiaries because it is mostly low income earners who are battling gambling addiction.

@robelneo Do you have any of such Health Bill in your country?


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Taskford on March 15, 2024, 12:53:03 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)

Its not strange law this is been done so those influencers will not abuse their influence and promote gambling thru their channels but we don't see any news regarding about this case where if there's someone got penalize for promoting gambling online or anywhere. It seems they are just creating that law just to present something that they take action but it doesn't get any proper implementation. We can still see that there's a lot of influencers promote online gambling and some of them are over exaggerated with their results and always says that its easy to earn a lot of money in gambling that's why there's people got hook by some idea installed on their heads and been totally got wrecked and their hard earned money gone because unwanted loss has occur to them.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: junder on March 15, 2024, 01:00:02 PM
In my opinion, his statement is in accordance with the law, if gambling is legal in a country then when we advertise online it is legal. Because with a statement the state legalizes it, because advertising it is one way for us to make a profit. In my opinion, many governments are indifferent to the gambling that is advertised online. Even though gambling is illegal in the country. There are several cases of people who gamble online and they find out one night that the authorities catch them, it makes me confused, because it's not just him who gambles online, I'm sure there are other friends who gamble online too or maybe unless the authorities dig up Information from him should say that anyone who gambles online will be arrested a lot, but in reality this is not the case, as long as online gambling has existed and has been busy until now, I have only come across news of the arrest of online gambling players only twice.

And conversely, when the state prohibits gambling or makes it illegal, and we advertise gambling online or carry out gambling online, it could become a problem that involves dealing with the law and ending up in prison if the government is strict in the legal regulations set out. Because in fact it's not like that in my country, even though gambling is prohibited there are still many who gamble and advertise gambling online. And they are fine, maybe that's because the government is too relaxed in handling cases. There are also those who gamble live streaming with the aim of gaining other benefits from the large number of people watching, but sometimes they wear masks, perhaps they really want to hide their personal identity. In fact, I think that even though online gambling in my country is prohibited, it is not an obstacle, they are not afraid to do it, and I have heard the answer from one of them. When I asked them why they dared to gamble online or advertise gambling online, and their answer was "the rules are made to be prohibited" I was a little surprised, but it couldn't be hidden that many people in my community did not comply with the regulations. it has been made by the government.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: dimonstration on March 15, 2024, 01:04:24 PM
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

The law is definitely much deeper than what people think about it. The main target of this proposed bill is to crackdown those influencers with high volume of followers that encouraging their followers to gamble. However they are putting a disclaimer on gambling yet they are blatantly inviting all their viewers to register under their link and entertaining them to encourage to gamble.

I watch a lot of this streamer on my facebook and they kinda annoying now since I follow them due to their online gaming content while they are now focus on gambling content that I don’t like to see frequently on my social media wall.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: uneng on March 15, 2024, 01:08:42 PM
I guess the politician who proposed this bill is against gambling legalization, right? But to forbid gambling at once would be unlikely, so he has to censor it step by step until reaching the final goal of completely forbidding gambling in your country. This time he wants to cease any kind of gambling publications, but let's say the bill passes, so it's possible he will come with something else, restricting the activity more and more each new bill he proposes.

However, it's just a pending bill, like many others you have in your country. Many of those bills are ridiculous, contradictory and will never get passed by the legislative house. Anyway, I wouldn't worry too much about it, because if gambling is legal in your country, it doesn't make sense people are going to be forbidden from talking about it on the internet... It doesn't make any sense. :D

There is also a chance this politician is just wanting to get some attention from the media and from the public who is against gambling in your country, because his bill is really weak, pointless and incongruous with the reality of the country.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
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To me, this law seems like a lot of hypocrisy. Because they are punishing or jailing people for advertising gambling instead of banning it. Although I do not know the details of this law, this is the first time I knew it from you and after knowing this, the first question that arises in my mind is that what is their main purpose behind the implementation of this law? If they are really doing this to save the young generation or their people from the dark side of gambling then they should have banned gambling first. However, they have done the opposite. In my country, casino gambling is completely banned and those who are involved in it, whether it is advertising or management, are brought under the law. A few days ago, a famous celebrity YouTuber of our country had to go to jail for advertising gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Oshosondy on March 15, 2024, 01:14:11 PM
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.
This is not strange or new. Some governments see gambling promotions not appropriate or not appropriate to under 18 in the public and discourage the promotion. Any media you will see kids, the government will not let gambling site to do any promotions there. It is something that I like because it will help against underage gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: MAAManda on March 15, 2024, 01:22:39 PM
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

I realized from the post you shared that you are from Philippines, I think if we look at the types of countries in ASEAN, that rule is a good rule. Because we come from a developing country, which means that gamblers are not fully aware of the dangers of gambling when they become problem gamblers.

Not only you , we also have regulations that are a little confusing but good, for example, cigarettes are legal in our country, but TV stations are not allowed to broadcast cigarette advertisements below 10 PM.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: avikz on March 15, 2024, 01:39:02 PM
I believe sach kind of contradictory rule exists because of a greater good. Making people fall for a financial trap has become very easy in today's generation. So an influencer can easily provide false information to his followers in order to make money. Probably that's why the government had the ruled out such laws.

In my country, it is illegal to provide stock market related tips in any public platform. I mean no influencer can say whether you should buy or not buy a stock. Both are similar. This is to avoid influence in the market.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Gozie51 on March 15, 2024, 01:48:13 PM
I think it may look wield though but not too difficult to look deeper into the intent of the law to understand the purpose of a particular law. Every law is meant to fulfill a purpose and it further review covers any lacuna the the original law has left open. In order words, this law that prohibit the public advertisement of gambling whilst gambling is allowed, I think it is for the purpose to avoid exploitation of fake gambling social media bloggers, telegram groups and other gambling marketing affiliate that are all glutton to the pockets of gullible gamblers.

So, it means if those groups exist then they can not do public adverts and winning of members into their groups. The law allows a person to gamble to his will and conscience and not to be deceived out of their will or get scammed.

However, in every law you will still find offenders but it is already stated in the law on the punishment to such contravention of the law.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Rruchi man on March 15, 2024, 01:57:56 PM
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Considering the underaged, I think this law was made as a sort of protection for them. Yes there are many gambling and betting places around in the society that can also expose gambling to children, but think of it, some of our underaged will not ever step foot in one of those kinds of places if no one from their family or you who they look up has endorsed it.

Your family members who are underaged and other underaged in the society that look up to you are on you socials, when you post up gambling slips or any kind of endorsing content about gambling, they see it and may be inspired to try gambling from that early age because of you.

It makes sense to me that the government does not want people promoting gambling in any form online.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Strongkored on March 15, 2024, 01:58:38 PM
It does seem to be a rule that contradicts one another but actually it is quite reasonable, because when posts or anything about gambling can be easily disseminated it will probably make more citizens involved including those who have not reached maturity, especially sometimes many promotions can provide information that does not match reality. If a country legalizes gambling, it does not mean that it can be freely talked about or advertised because there must still be rules to prevent bad things from happening because of gambling, because the state still expects their citizens to gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: _act_ on March 15, 2024, 01:59:06 PM
I think it is for the purpose to avoid exploitation of fake gambling social media bloggers, telegram groups and other gambling marketing affiliate that are all glutton to the pockets of gullible gamblers.
I do not think so because if there is no gambling ads and promotions, there are other means that scammers can use to scam people. Scam is inevitable. If that is the reason, also no ads or site promotions will be allowed. I guess gambling ads are not allowed because gambling is risky. The government prefer people to know it by themselves and not through ads and with this, children can not easily know about gambling sites.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: moneystery on March 15, 2024, 02:04:09 PM
maybe for many people this is a funny and unreasonable law, but i believe that the government in your country has a purpose in making this law. maybe they see that the act of promoting gambling wins can trigger other people to join in gambling, especially in developing countries where most people have below average incomes and minimal knowledge about gambling, it can trigger them to be interested in gambling and this will make more and more people involved in gambling.

so this law has a good goal of being able to protect more people from the negative impacts of gambling and prohibiting more influencers from engaging in gambling promotional practices.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Assface16678 on March 15, 2024, 02:31:51 PM
Well I already know what country are you talking about and we are the same living in that country, the thing is gambling is not entirely legal in the country, meaning there are exceptions such as you can't operate without a permit or yiu are not following the legal rules and regulations in your establishment, and also winning a very huge amount of money from gambling should undergo in government meaning there are taxes and such which is a bullshit, but we can't argue because they are the one that implements the rules or laws so we don't have a choice but to obey and if some cases you win big amount in gambling in this country make sure you win in a legal establishment or business or else government will treat your earning as subject to crime and you will not get a single penny. For example, if you win in an illegal casino and announce it on social media, the government or authority will find a way to confiscate your money as it came from an illegal business.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Solosanz on March 15, 2024, 02:39:14 PM
There's always a double standard in government laws, so you need to get used for that.

They're accepting gambling because they know they can make a lot money by taxing the casino, but they don't want people to promote the casino because they didn't want to see people know their country are really known as gambling (many people still think gambling is bad), so they want to get a good impression for other people especially from foreign countries.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Obari on March 15, 2024, 02:52:45 PM
This is more of a case of eating your cake and having it back.
I couldn’t help but laugh so hard at how these politicians do their things and how in earth will they allow the day to day running of several gambling related outlets with possible licenses to operate in the country but yet prohibits people from talking about it , how ?
I think this is, another way of extorting from the poor and innocent citizens of your country because I can alone imagine the joy that comes with winning a very huge amount of money from gambling and yet can’t even share the news with someone else across the net because you’re scared of been jailed or fined which is absolutely ridiculous.

I also said it’s more like a case of eating ones cake and wanting it back because, for a casino to operas free legally in a country, there must be some sort of license backing them up legally and since the government is already generating some reasonable figure from them in form of tax, they can’t even decide if they should leave or not but rather imposing some insane law of an innocent gambler.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: skarais on March 15, 2024, 03:03:58 PM
Such regulations may be largely disrespected among most gamblers, but may be appreciated in government efforts to prevent more people from becoming addicted to gambling. They legalize gambling, but don't want casinos and winnings to be promoted, looking at the positive side is good in my opinion.

There may be good reasons on the government's part for such rules, but gamblers find them unreasonable. Everything that is bad on the part of gamblers is not necessarily bad to implement, especially since the government only wants to prevent more problems rather than allowing them to grow rapidly which is uncontrolled.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Findingnemo on March 15, 2024, 03:06:49 PM
Not quite the strange as everyone says, if I am not wrong many countries restricted celebrities from promoting casinos and any gambling related activities just like restrictions on tobacco and Booze so the advertising companies may find loopholes like promoting the brands instead of product that will reach the targetted audience. But proposing penalty even to talk about gambling is quite extreme and most likely it will be rephrased by the respective entity that can be applicable in reality.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: SamReomo on March 15, 2024, 03:10:16 PM
The main target of this proposed bill is to crackdown those influencers with high volume of followers that encouraging their followers to gamble.
That's a good thing because such influencers often promote shady casinos in order to earn revenue. I have personally seen many influencers who were promoting 1xBit to their followers and were saying good things about that casino. We on Bitcointalk know that how shady that casino is and if your words are true then government might also gather such information and try their best to stop such influencers.

Some governments see gambling promotions not appropriate or not appropriate to under 18 in the public and discourage the promotion.
That's in fact another great step taken by a government to protect the underage from gambling because underage people can get highly addicted to gambling and they can't discriminate between good and bad. If governments are against gambling promotion then why do they allow gambling casinos to continue their service in the area?

That's something strange, if they are against gambling promotion then they should be against casinos as well. In OP's country gambling casinos are functioning without any issue but the ones who say anything about betting may face issues. Isn't that very strange.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Doan9269 on March 15, 2024, 03:14:26 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

Then i don't actually think its legal in your country if what is legal cannot be promoted, then its as better as being against the law, promotion is not as bad as allowing it at the first place, so its better that they make their stand clear to the people that they did not support gambling and its illegal than creating a fine upon any attempt to advert it, are they not regulating the sector, are the government not being paid tax from the representing gambling organizations.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Beparanf on March 15, 2024, 03:16:33 PM
There may be good reasons on the government's part for such rules, but gamblers find them unreasonable. Everything that is bad on the part of gamblers is not necessarily bad to implement, especially since the government only wants to prevent more problems rather than allowing them to grow rapidly which is uncontrolled.

This bill was introduced in my country so I’m pretty sure that it’s content will be revised to a bare minimum since our government is corrupt while we get most of our taxes on gambling industry from huge scale casino like POGO which use various artist and influencer to promote their brand.

I doubt that this bill will successfully approved in the senate. Maybe this will be revised to target only influencers on social media that doing live stream but not to the level that it will be generalized for any gambling activity. I trust on how corrupt our government so this is an easy denied.  :D


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: adultcrypto on March 15, 2024, 03:19:43 PM
It is a matter of time before gambling is eventually banned in your country. I don't know the level of freedom of information you people enjoy in your country, but what your government may be doing is to discourage people from making gambling seem like a shortcut to wealth as many organizations package their product beautifully in advertisement. They prefer gamblers and potential gamblers to visit the physical shops to find out firsthand information about gambling from gamblers and those who can share from their person experience.  If this be the case, there is some merits to their actions even though I think they are too extreme. To avoid jail, just gamble but don't post about it on social media.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 15, 2024, 03:21:29 PM
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

I think they are limiting to casinos/gambling establishments that are monitored by the government. If you advertise any kind of gambling platform other than those mandated by law or by the government, then that is where it becomes illegal.

Though that may be the case, I also find this peculiar that there is a pending bill regarding this kind of advertisements. It is just all over the place to the point that a person may be held liable for cases which are advertised by the government itself.

There may be good reasons on the government's part for such rules, but gamblers find them unreasonable. Everything that is bad on the part of gamblers is not necessarily bad to implement, especially since the government only wants to prevent more problems rather than allowing them to grow rapidly which is uncontrolled.

This bill was introduced in my country so I’m pretty sure that it’s content will be revised to a bare minimum since our government is corrupt while we get most of our taxes on gambling industry from huge scale casino like POGO which use various artist and influencer to promote their brand.

I doubt that this bill will successfully approved in the senate. Maybe this will be revised to target only influencers on social media that doing live stream but not to the level that it will be generalized for any gambling activity. I trust on how corrupt our government so this is an easy denied.  :D

From what I learned in law school, majority of the bills that are passed through Congress will be heavily modified by the time it reaches the Senate. In fact, the whole bill can be changed essentially because the important requisite only is that the bill must ORIGINATE from the Congress.

For example, if the bill that originated from the lower house is about gambling, by the time it reaches the Senate, the whole bill can be about health or about anything. What is important only here is that the creation of the bill must start from the House of Representatives.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: YOSHIE on March 15, 2024, 03:22:47 PM
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Laws remain rules from the government, they can issue laws based on mutual negotiations, especially parliament, of course parliament is not one or two people, maybe dozens of people and including religions, whether it's for gambling or against gambling, we as a society must understand situations like that, I'm sure almost all countries apply rules like legal gambling but the same as illegal and illegal gambling but like legal.

We understand situations like that in gambling, because almost on average mafia countries have power in the government, if that happens then it is not surprising that in countries where gambling is legal it becomes illegal and vice versa, business and rivals talk, that's how the world is today, laws can be bought and wrong can be right and right can be wrong.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Zlantann on March 15, 2024, 03:29:12 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

I just hope this bill is not passed into law because many people might go to jail or be forced to pay fines. I hope the government is also making plans to increase the prison capacity of the country because many people might fall victim to this law. People usually post wins on social media to advertise the casino and out of the joy of winning. Friends and families have mocked many people concerning losses in gambling, so out of joy they might want to prove to critics that they have been fortunate. This is why some of them post these wins on social media.

That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

Sometimes it is not out of place for the government to regulate the gambling sector to discourage gambling addiction and underage gambling. I was not pleased when I saw a betting company advertising close to a junior secondary school where students are less than fourteen years old. This is why the government will make certain laws to protect the vulnerable. However, I find this bill to be very strict.   


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: cabron on March 15, 2024, 03:29:55 PM
That's strange. But reading from the article's first paragraph you can already tell this is something about social media influencers promoting casinos which have ruined lives of your fellow men. Many off us are not aware of the people affected in your country but the government must have took noticed of those victims are did some actions.

The casino and all other gambling businesses in the cities are regulated and the establishments know their gamblers. If you are someone who gambles in your city, they know you can afford and they will not bother you but those online gamblers, the government will not be able to monitor people who spends money in to online casinos and who got addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: skarais on March 15, 2024, 03:31:38 PM
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This bill was introduced in my country so I’m pretty sure that it’s content will be revised to a bare minimum since our government is corrupt while we get most of our taxes on gambling industry from huge scale casino like POGO which use various artist and influencer to promote their brand.

I doubt that this bill will successfully approved in the senate. Maybe this will be revised to target only influencers on social media that doing live stream but not to the level that it will be generalized for any gambling activity. I trust on how corrupt our government so this is an easy denied.  :D
LOL, I noticed it and it's no longer a secret.
The government will try to take a middle path so as not to ban it completely, which in the end will get nothing from the industry. Maybe they'll think about what's mutually beneficial before passing a rule, but I don't know what country you're from.

Almost all countries have corrupt governments, not only yours but my country is the same. They often camouflage themselves with regulations, while behind the scenes they continue to get payments from the industry. It's ridiculous, but that's the truth.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: piebeyb on March 15, 2024, 03:37:26 PM
This violation is quite strange and confusing but interesting to discuss, sometimes there are strange regulations like that in some countries but we just don't know about them, but this is much stranger where gambling is legal everywhere but you are not allowed to publish it online let alone promote it, I think we Everyone knows that the reason the state prohibits gambling is because it doesn't want all of its people to gamble in online casinos and maybe that reason is used to prevent people from gambling online because the government doesn't get the taxes.

Meanwhile, playing gambling at lottery outlets offline, maybe the government gets taxes from it, but I also don't want to react, let alone assess the regulations in your country, of course your government has reasons for that, it could be because they want to get more taxes and fines from the people who do you like gambling or does your government not want people to like gambling because of invitations from friends who publish their winnings as gambling-related content on the internet or their social media.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: sokani on March 15, 2024, 04:02:05 PM
Well it's still a bill and it hasn't been passed into law but I don't think I'd be wrong to say whoever came up with such bill is sick in the head.

According to an extract from the article:

"The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities."

If they kick against talking and promoting gambling on social media, what's the difference between such publicity and stationary gambling sign boards in front of casinos, isn't it also a form of advert since casinos are not banned.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Japinat on March 15, 2024, 04:07:36 PM
Philippines are not really 100% pro gambling, they have some gambling operators that were given a license but are only selective. About lottery, yeah, they are everywhere but it does not make people loss a lot of money, unless a person is truly addicted, but overall, less than a dollar, one can already bet in lottery.

However, this online gambling platforms with most of them are unlicensed has been used or abuse by the influencers to make easy money by convining their followers to bet after they showed their winning bets. Knowing the Philippines has a high poverty rate,  people might be desperate to make money from gambling but in reality they were just misled.  I have not opposition about this bill, anyone can gamble but this one is to eliminate irresponsible gambling cause by irresponsible online influencers.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: target on March 15, 2024, 04:17:04 PM

Any chance this bill will be approved?

And its such a big amount compare to other crimes, the heck Sen Padilla. because this I think will affect Filipinos here in the forum if they proved us to be promoting casinos. I did have a medium account where I wrote  some articles about gambling and added my referral links and I did create a youtube channel for it.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: CryptSafe on March 15, 2024, 04:18:11 PM
Well it's still a bill and it hasn't been passed into law but I don't think I'd be wrong to say whoever came up with such bill is sick in the head.

According to an extract from the article:

"The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities."

If they kick against talking and promoting gambling on social media, what's the difference between such publicity and stationary gambling sign boards in front of casinos, isn't it also a form of advert?

If the government chooses to take such measures, possibly they must be doing such for the interest of their citizens. Sometimes, before the government or the law makers in a nation put up bills of such nature, there must have been uproars of such act in that nation which is however causing or becoming a menace in that country  and as a step to curtailing excess of it, the put a law into action to checkmate such activities. This I believe the government of that nation wants to do to her citizens.

This I think would not solve the issue of gambling as their citizens would resort to going online to gamble just to avoid the government sanctions against them. This would get worse than they expected to reduce.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: bettercrypto on March 15, 2024, 04:22:12 PM
Philippines are not really 100% pro gambling, they have some gambling operators that were given a license but are only selective. About lottery, yeah, they are everywhere but it does not make people loss a lot of money, unless a person is truly addicted, but overall, less than a dollar, one can already bet in lottery.

However, this online gambling platforms with most of them are unlicensed has been used or abuse by the influencers to make easy money by convining their followers to bet after they showed their winning bets. Knowing the Philippines has a high poverty rate,  people might be desperate to make money from gambling but in reality they were just misled.  I have not opposition about this bill, anyone can gamble but this one is to eliminate irresponsible gambling cause by irresponsible online influencers.

Yes, you are right there. As long as they follow the regulation requirements that the government needs, it is fine in the Philippines for a gambling business to operate as long as it is
registered with Pagcor. So that proposed bill is good when it becomes law.

Because it has never been good to do illegal things in a gambling business, and everyone in the crypto space that we live in knows that too.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: punk.zink on March 15, 2024, 04:31:42 PM
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This bill was introduced in my country so I’m pretty sure that it’s content will be revised to a bare minimum since our government is corrupt while we get most of our taxes on gambling industry from huge scale casino like POGO which use various artist and influencer to promote their brand.

I doubt that this bill will successfully approved in the senate. Maybe this will be revised to target only influencers on social media that doing live stream but not to the level that it will be generalized for any gambling activity. I trust on how corrupt our government so this is an easy denied.  :D
LOL, I noticed it and it's no longer a secret.
The government will try to take a middle path so as not to ban it completely, which in the end will get nothing from the industry. Maybe they'll think about what's mutually beneficial before passing a rule, but I don't know what country you're from.

Almost all countries have corrupt governments, not only yours but my country is the same. They often camouflage themselves with regulations, while behind the scenes they continue to get payments from the industry. It's ridiculous, but that's the truth.

This is quite a strange proposed law. However, what I see is that there is some anxiety that has led the proponent make the prohibition proposal. The prohibition is intended for reduce the negative impact that gambling activities can have, but the prohibition is not intended to limit the income that government can get from gambling activities. If he really want to eliminate the bad effects of gambling, then instead of prohibition on promoting gambling activities, he should submit a proposal to ban all gambling activities.

Besides that, it is not stated whether the prohibition applies to individuals or also applies to government agencies. If the prohibition on promoting gambling activities only applies to individuals, so there is a possibility the authorized party or those given permission by the government can promote gambling activities and the content, which means it will be additional income for the government.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on March 15, 2024, 04:37:57 PM
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Looking at this from my own personal point of view, I just think your country is just only trying to indirectly tax people for every successful gambling, because if I may ask, Do your country also charge people to court if they post a bet they lost while gambling? Because allowing gambling in the physical, while persecuting same people when they post a game won while gambling online doesn't make any sense. But, only if such penalty is being made just to regulate gambling exposure to people less of below 18yrs, then such policy is likely to be worth it.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Nwada001 on March 15, 2024, 04:42:00 PM
This is very understandable. What the senates are trying to do is regulate the way people gamble and react to gambling in their country. Truth be told, online gambling promotion is a partner.
 
The reason why the gambling industry is getting the kind of attention it's getting is because of the pattern most people use in promoting gambling online, like the way they promote it as if it's all that easy to win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth do not rush into it with further study of how the gambling industry works. 


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: killerfrost on March 15, 2024, 04:42:44 PM
These vloggers often paint an unrealistic picture. They showcase their wins, the thrill of victory, but conveniently forget the countless losses that keep gambling sites afloat. It's like watching a highlight reel of a soccer game, with only the goals and none of the grueling training or missed shots.

This lack of transparency is what makes the situation so dangerous. Kids and teenagers, with their developing sense of judgment, are particularly vulnerable to this distorted portrayal. They might see gambling as a path to easy money, a quick fix for their desires, completely oblivious to the potential dangers of addiction.

So, a blanket ban on all gambling promotion might seem like a blunt instrument, but it highlights a genuine concern. We need a more nuanced approach. Age restrictions on gambling content are crucial, but what about these cleverly disguised vlog endings? Perhaps a stricter vetting process is needed, or clearer disclaimers separating the actual content from the gambling promotion.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Woodie on March 15, 2024, 04:45:54 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
Two things are likely to be happening here;

1. The government could be pushing its citizens to playing the lottery because they might have a stake in it or probably use it as a cashcow for whatever financing is needed...

2. This could be targeted to any other gambling platform available from you jurisdiction, and they are trying to put them out of business either for not paying the right amount for licensing or probably an individual using the government machinery to put a competitor out of business.

Make your pick from above reasons, but from how all this is all explained it honestly doesn't even make sense, perphaps if they really want gambling controlled then let them ban this vice altogether than subjecting it's people to some hash punishments!!

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
If I where in this country, I would go for my freedom and stay away from gambling, otherwise if they serve the interests of the people better they state their intentions than shooting in the dark and people aren't sure of what's happening.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: southerngentuk on March 15, 2024, 05:10:18 PM
Gambling laws can be a puzzling maze. On one hand, some forms of gambling are legal, on the other, advertising them is strictly forbidden. It seems counterintuitive, doesn't it?

Let's peel back the layers. This law isn't about stopping people from gambling altogether. It's about creating a safeguard against exploitation. Imagine a world bombarded with flashy casino ads, promising easy riches. Vulnerable individuals, enticed by these deceptive portrayals, could be lured into a dangerous cycle of addiction.

These fake social media influencers and telegram groups are like digital sirens, luring unsuspecting victims onto the gambling rocks. The law wants to silence these deceptive voices, protecting people from falling prey to their manipulative tactics.

The law doesn't judge the gambler, it protects them. It allows individuals to make informed choices, free from the pressure of relentless advertising. Imagine a casino with a big sign outside, but no salespeople allowed on the street. People can still walk in if they choose, but the decision is theirs, unclouded by aggressive marketing tactics.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Yatsan on March 15, 2024, 05:19:33 PM
Selective I guess. Most likely, registered gambling providers are the one which are legal and not all of the platforms. Therefore, promoting it will have sanctions. Also, gambling promotion has added weight by means of encouragement. Legality of a platform means it is accessible to people as long as it follows the regulation. Promoting gambling activities could encourage people including those whoch are not yet 18 and above; simply this industry wouldn't want to. It is most likely a 'lt it be' set up and if it will involve persuasion and encouragement.
Philippines are not really 100% pro gambling, they have some gambling operators that were given a license but are only selective. About lottery, yeah, they are everywhere but it does not make people loss a lot of money, unless a person is truly addicted, but overall, less than a dollar, one can already bet in lottery.

However, this online gambling platforms with most of them are unlicensed has been used or abuse by the influencers to make easy money by convining their followers to bet after they showed their winning bets. Knowing the Philippines has a high poverty rate,  people might be desperate to make money from gambling but in reality they were just misled.  I have not opposition about this bill, anyone can gamble but this one is to eliminate irresponsible gambling cause by irresponsible online influencers.

Yes, you are right there. As long as they follow the regulation requirements that the government needs, it is fine in the Philippines for a gambling business to operate as long as it is
registered with Pagcor. So that proposed bill is good when it becomes law.

Because it has never been good to do illegal things in a gambling business, and everyone in the crypto space that we live in knows that too.
Well, in gambling industry to most of the countries, majority of operators are not registered because they avoid taxes and restrictions with regards to operation. Illegal is a common term being associated with betting in general simply because only few countries are allowing its operation due to the risks involved in particular with addiction. But still, there are platforms who still obey the law and in exchange is regulation including promotion, to name one.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: adzino on March 15, 2024, 05:29:01 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
I wouldn't say it is weird. Some countries allow gambling, but they don't allow "advertising" or promoting gambling. I forgot, but a year or before, there was a country that banned all gambling related content/advertisement on TVs and  maybe posters too. The rationale behind such a law probably boils down to the influence social media and online platforms have, specially on kids. There's a real issue with people sharing fake wins or exaggerating their gambling success online. They do it mainly to lure others in, sometimes through referral links or just to gain followers/views. This kind of promotion can definitely hide the reality of gambling risks and potentially encourages more people to gamble, thinking it is easy to win big. So I guess it is more likely to protect those that are vulnerable like gambling addicts and kids.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 15, 2024, 05:39:33 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

This is very strange but at the same time, very understandable as well.
Strange in the sense that this is a very uncommon law, it's the first time I am hearing or learning about such, and I believe that it is exactly the same for so many people here as well.
So, it is very uncommon to know of the possibility of a country banning talks about gambling, mean while gambling is fully legal in the same country.

On the other hand, this is understandable in the sense that, gambling is naturally promoted and more people get into gambling when they see or read about or of people's gambing testimonies online or in face to face discussions or interactions, a person who never had any intention of gambling can easily pick interest to want to try out gambling after they have read or heard that a person won a certain big amount of money on a game after betting a supposedly small about of money.

I believe this is what the government is moving to want to stop, gambling promotions regardless of the fact it's still legal to gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Adbitco on March 15, 2024, 05:56:46 PM
The only thing I noticed here is that they are trying to reduce gambling addiction because I know too well that is commentaries or testimonies that always inspired a fellow or none gambling to pick up interest to gamble with this law people might remain anonymous while they still gamble without them influencing others.
This will also reduce the gambling active and influencing people around knowing to well that there are fine to pay so gambling could be done responsibly without or getting oneself into additive phase.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: famososMuertos on March 15, 2024, 08:17:29 PM
I think it may be a promotion-oriented assessment, everyone who talks or mentioned betting could be engaging in promotion, some without interest, others instead to promote their betting businesses.

In my country, advertising of cigarettes and alcoholic beverages is not allowed, but they are sold left and right.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 15, 2024, 08:58:06 PM
This is very understandable. What the senates are trying to do is regulate the way people gamble and react to gambling in their country. Truth be told, online gambling promotion is a partner.
 
The reason why the gambling industry is getting the kind of attention it's getting is because of the pattern most people use in promoting gambling online, like the way they promote it as if it's all that easy to win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth do not rush into it with further study of how the gambling industry works.

Deception is what you are talking about here. They are showing that it is quite easy to win but in reality it is not. Who knows, they are only showing the winning clips and not the losing ones. Most of the time, they are editing their videos to make it look like, they are always getting the jackpot.

Gambling laws can be a puzzling maze. On one hand, some forms of gambling are legal, on the other, advertising them is strictly forbidden. It seems counterintuitive, doesn't it?

Let's peel back the layers. This law isn't about stopping people from gambling altogether. It's about creating a safeguard against exploitation. Imagine a world bombarded with flashy casino ads, promising easy riches. Vulnerable individuals, enticed by these deceptive portrayals, could be lured into a dangerous cycle of addiction.

These fake social media influencers and telegram groups are like digital sirens, luring unsuspecting victims onto the gambling rocks. The law wants to silence these deceptive voices, protecting people from falling prey to their manipulative tactics.

The law doesn't judge the gambler, it protects them. It allows individuals to make informed choices, free from the pressure of relentless advertising. Imagine a casino with a big sign outside, but no salespeople allowed on the street. People can still walk in if they choose, but the decision is theirs, unclouded by aggressive marketing tactics.

What more can I say? A lot of influencers are being paid to promote a site. Hence, the government is just giving some protection to its people, particularly those gullible individuals who can't tell the difference of fake and genuine ads or promotion. For sure, many people are being the victim of false hopes from these streamers, thinking that they can also get such winnings but in reality, winnings is quite slippery to get.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: alani123 on March 15, 2024, 09:55:29 PM
I've seen several people in my country promoting non-licensed casinos with their full name on facebook and other social media without any real consequences from authorities.

The issue in countries where gambling has become legal is that so called "legal" licensed gambling providers spend too much money on promotion so they've created sort of a monopoly where if you are a promoter it's only really worth it to promote them and no one other. So unlicensed casinos have a hard time getting a footing in these types of countries. Casinos that feature crypto tend to be more competitive and earn more players through word of mouth, but can't compete in any way to the affiliate budget of the "legal" ones. Because these casinos have a higher house edge and rather spend all their money on affiliate marketing.



Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Rockstarguy on March 15, 2024, 10:42:36 PM
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
I think the goverment they are only trying to regulate gambling in your country so that it won't be abused.  Maybe they think promoting gambling and advertising gambling can make Young people to show much interest on it which can later be a difficult for challenge for them . Maybe the government is trying to control gambling just because of the side effect which can be serious of problem to the citizens of this country,  I think this could only be the reason for this .

I think the goverment just want the citizens to just play their gambling online and never to talk about outside or public places. This is to say that the government is against the promotion of gambling so that it won't affect people to get addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Heartilly on March 15, 2024, 10:53:17 PM
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

You don't fully understand the law mate. It's about publishing gambling-related content that seems to attract more users.

If the post were done in a simple "Yey I won on Lottery", that wouldn't be subject to getting penalized. The law is honestly good because there are lots of users on social media who are posting gambling links as they are gathering referrals and not using real accounts.

Besides, I can't believe someone will really post their winning bets in lottery or horse racing to the public?


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: chaser15 on March 15, 2024, 10:59:09 PM
That's not weird or strange. Sen. Robin Padilla is shit on some of his actions as a Senator but I support him on that bill he's proposing. If you try to visit some gambling-related groups on social media, especially on Facebook, there are several posers around just to advertise the site they are promoting.

The site is not publicly posted by these posers and fake accounts but you need to PM them. It might lead to some users ending up playing on a scam site just because of these free offers from these posers. If that is regulated, it can somehow minimize the worst-case scenario that newbies might end up.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Stepstowealth on March 15, 2024, 10:59:42 PM
"The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities."
This is another way of the government saying that if you gamble, gamble privately which is how it should be without letting everyone know that you are into gambling. Many people have picked up the trend of always posting their activities online, even when they gamble. It must have been very rampant for the government to formulate such policies.

Besides, I can't believe someone will really post their winning bets in lottery or horse racing to the public?
You better believe it, there are people who happen to be gamblers too, they cannot do without posting online, there is nothing like a private life to these people. Many celebrities and influencers are like this.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: serjent05 on March 15, 2024, 11:07:38 PM
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

This wasn't a law yet, it is just a bill proposal that anyone who promote gambling content online get penalized.  I do not find this kind of proposition  to be strange.  This kind of proposed bill is expected if the person wanted to limit gambling activities in the country.  This does not contradict with the legality of gambling n a country since it targets the publication of online gambling content that may encourage people to gambling.  This is more or less prohibiting online promotion of gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: LDL on March 15, 2024, 11:11:40 PM
I don't understand any rules of the law and it seems very strange to me that in a country where gambling is legalized, posting or commenting or advertising about gambling in that country will be fined a huge amount.
If such a penalty system is done with legalization then I don't see any reason to legalize it. Gambling has been legalized in different countries of the world and allowed enough to promote but I found the first country where even if gambling is legalized only to promote it has to pay huge fines.
But OP's post doesn't make the whole thing clear, I think there are some government rules where gambling is legalized and some specific regulations are given to promote it. If it can be promoted in any other way outside of that specific regulation, then maybe fine will have to be paid.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Casdinyard on March 15, 2024, 11:17:23 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
It's pretty much like that US law where prostitution is legal, but if you were caught getting paid in money as a prostitute, you're going to be jailed. It's pretty much a way for the country's government to either pass up laws that wouldn't necessarily violate some human rights, or in this case in particular, to literally solve a fucking problem.

As somenoe who's gained access to the Filipino internet community's trends and setups, I knew for a fact just how massive online gambling ads are in this fucking space. Every micro-blogger/internet vlogger you would see out there is either sponsored by an unlicensed online gambling platform, or is a direct partner of theirs, luring and leading people into thinking that they can earn quick cash by playing in their site as compared to the regular casino's discretion of warnings, (you'd literally see these people saying how easy it is to earn $200 on a single session of betting, and to top it all off, they don't require any form of KYC) so yeah, glad to see that for once the government is looking at an issue at hand and is doing whatever they can in their power to solve a running problem.



Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: arimamib on March 15, 2024, 11:17:47 PM
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
I think the goverment they are only trying to regulate gambling in your country so that it won't be abused.  Maybe they think promoting gambling and advertising gambling can make Young people to show much interest on it which can later be a difficult for challenge for them . Maybe the government is trying to control gambling just because of the side effect which can be serious of problem to the citizens of this country,  I think this could only be the reason for this .

I think the goverment just want the citizens to just play their gambling online and never to talk about outside or public places. This is to say that the government is against the promotion of gambling so that it won't affect people to get addicted.
I think It's wise for government to have regulations on gambling in a way to respond a common concern for public welfare and the potential negative consequences associated with excessive gambling. Governments often implement regulations to protect citizens from the harmful effects of gambling addiction. It's better to ensure that gambling activities are conducted responsibly. It would be a good policy to promote responsible gambling and limit exposure to gambling advertising, especially to vulnerable populations such as young people. That is a primary objective of many government regulations.

Regulating the industry and controlling where and how gambling activities are advertised are the policy to mitigate the risks of addiction and minimize the impact on society. Encouraging online gambling, where activities can be more easily monitored and controlled, may indeed be part of the government's strategy to regulate gambling in a more controlled environment. Online platforms make gamblers easier to set limits on their spending and time spent gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: SmartGold01 on March 15, 2024, 11:27:09 PM
If your government would enact a law that you can't promote anything that relates with gambling then there is no need to keep gambling in that country its better to restricts gambling than enacting such law to be abide by their citizens which is very difficult in my opinion. I can't see any season to people gambling not to mentioned anything that is related to gambling and probably mentioned then such person's or groups of people has to pay penalty for mention and promoting gambling site, don't you think is better to ban gambling in that state region?
If that can solve the problems because I know too well that some people do love sharing their winning on their social media handle and are they also monitoring the social media page of everyone to know if they violates the rules by promoting external material that is purely on a gambling benefits?


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: dothebeats on March 15, 2024, 11:40:00 PM
This is just absurdity coming in from the government. Most of the laws and ordinance from the Philippines related to gambling contradict each other. It's like they are protecting something, but at the same time, lets the actual danger roam around and take people's hopes. If they want to ban advertisements but not gambling, then they are just subtly promoting gambling since people will look in places just to know what platforms are out there to play on.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: HelliumZ on March 15, 2024, 11:48:15 PM
The law is strange but nothing new. There are many countries where gambling is legal but there are some strict rules that must be followed. The exact rationale behind making all these rules is that if the government does not make any strict laws to promote gambling then all classes of people in that country will be so strongly attracted to gambling that the entire eco system will be ruined. Especially youth below 18 years will involve themselves in gambling without complying with the government regulations and thus their life along with their career will become miserable. That is why the government has not banned gambling but has strictly prohibited the promotion of gambling and in such cases promotion will be punished with severe penalties.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: JoyMarsha on March 15, 2024, 11:54:01 PM
Every country has its own funny rules that can make you wonder what could lead to their drastic rule against their citizens.

This makes to ask, what could be the cause of this? For your country, Senate members think of passing this kind of bill against gamblers who would like to talk about their gambling experiences(winning or losing) openly for others to learn from it. However, every country wants to protect its citizens from not having financial deception from other citizens. Let everyone not be deceived that gambling makes one millionaire by betting hugely. I think that should be one of the reasons the bill was passed by your country's Senate members


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: agustina2 on March 15, 2024, 11:59:06 PM
At least, that law, if ever it will be passed, will restrict those braggers from posting their winnings, especially streamers.

It's for the safety of the users as well and these people will learn how to just keep low-key with their winnings.

This is just absurdity coming in from the government. Most of the laws and ordinance from the Philippines related to gambling contradict each other. It's like they are protecting something, but at the same time, lets the actual danger roam around and take people's hopes. If they want to ban advertisements but not gambling, then they are just subtly promoting gambling since people will look in places just to know what platforms are out there to play on.

For the fairness of both parties, since gambling is an important part of the economy of the country, it should be regulated.

Is it good for you to see those chillers and influencers doing gambling content freely luring many people?


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Potato Chips on March 16, 2024, 12:20:11 AM

Any chance this bill will be approved?

And its such a big amount compare to other crimes, the heck Sen Padilla. because this I think will affect Filipinos here in the forum if they proved us to be promoting casinos. I did have a medium account where I wrote  some articles about gambling and added my referral links and I did create a youtube channel for it.

I get where the senator is coming from but it does sound extreme. Being in an early stage, there is likely to be changes about the bill (if approved) as well so I'm expecting it to be laxer.

I also doubt the bill would be retroactive -- means past actions will not be counted because it doesn't sound fair if it's retroactive. Plus, they would need to fine the influencers first so imagine the noise from that community lol.

But I guess this is one of the reasons why I try to stay private on bitcointalk because you never know what happens next.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: bayu7adi on March 16, 2024, 01:11:40 AM
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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
How massive is the world of gambling in that country (the Philippines)? It's true that you see several casinos and gambling outlets in several corners of the region and I have also done a little research on the Philippines, where gambling really contributes to the culture of the Filipino people... but it seems like the government is quite concerned about the gambling addiction that befalls its citizens. Until now, perhaps the government is reducing the number of gambling addicts by stopping online promotions regarding gambling so that people don't get too involved in the world of gambling.

I'm sure Senator Robin Padilla feels that gambling in the Philippines should be reduced, and as long as this bill is not approved, then I don't think the warnings regarding uploading content about gambling on social media will be realized.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 16, 2024, 02:53:18 AM
That's why if you win on gambling games, you don't have to posts your winning to your social media or tells to many people around you. That's for your save from any bad guys or any regulations like that. By keeping your winning secretly, you can enjoy the wins money for yourself. But the regulations in one country will be different than in other countries so that will depends on how people will react if they win much money by playing gambling. They can still posts their winning from gambling especially if there is no regulations like that because they thinks that posting their winning in the social media is like a prestigious.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on March 16, 2024, 07:46:27 AM
Based on the url or article, I see that you are from the Philippines. It's kinda strange because gambling is allowed in your country but there's a law being proposed to charge and penalize people for talking or posting about online gambling. Maybe they aim to control gambling problems, especially influencers who cannot control their problem with excessive gambling. I hope that they can balance between controlling gambling issues and allowing people to express themselves freely


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: AVE5 on March 16, 2024, 08:21:10 AM
Personally I don't see any reasonable reasons on why someone should even speculate their winning of bets in the first place. That doesn't make a difference to their gambling and I wonder why they don't spread the news of their looses. So probably spreading a winning game to the internet is like promoting the gambling which can be influential to posses others who might not have the thought to gamble in the first place and definitely such could ilicit chronic gambling to others because everyone would be so eager to hit the jackpot at all costs while their funds are gone on the process.
Left with me single handedly, it should be better of to talking about lost games than winning games because that alone can moderate and serves warnings to gamblers who are just after of making money in their gambling.
Moreso, I love the terms and conditions there in your country because your government cares about your financial and mental reputations.
I hope you don't get mad by the lawful system.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Beparanf on March 16, 2024, 08:29:45 AM
Based on the url or article, I see that you are from the Philippines. It's kinda strange because gambling is allowed in your country but there's a law being proposed to charge and penalize people for talking or posting about online gambling. Maybe they aim to control gambling problems, especially influencers who cannot control their problem with excessive gambling. I hope that they can balance between controlling gambling issues and allowing people to express themselves freely

It’s not really what it looks like. It’s not for the general public but for those influencers that have huge amount of followers trying to encourage their viewers to gamble. Normal social media user can still post a gambling related post but it shouldn’t contain any word of encouragement to make other people to gamble.

The problem on gambling in our country is very serious now since influencers are free to post any gambling related content despite they have minor audience. Government is just dumb here to not control the meta content by requesting meta to ban any gambling content rather than create a useless bill like this that will waste time and money of senators.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on March 16, 2024, 08:30:09 AM
           -   As far as I can see, the reason that proposed bill was made is because the senator probably saw that there are many minors who see the promotion of online gambling on social media like the Facebook platform. Usually, the promoters are influencers who teach people to gamble, and most of the influencers are fraudsters and deceitful in their streaming or content uploaded on their Facebook pages.

That's why it's good that we can see some influencers who will be caught by that law when it becomes law, and there are those who will be jailed. It's too severe, even for women who promote online gambling, because many of them are ruining the lives of poor people. What's even more annoying is that there are also influencers because other poor people, like vendors, who are looking for a good life will be taught to gamble, which is really below the belt, so I am in favor of that proposed bill.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Die_empty on March 16, 2024, 08:42:26 AM
That's why if you win on gambling games, you don't have to posts your winning to your social media or tells to many people around you. That's for your save from any bad guys or any regulations like that. By keeping your winning secretly, you can enjoy the wins money for yourself. But the regulations in one country will be different than in other countries so that will depends on how people will react if they win much money by playing gambling. They can still posts their winning from gambling especially if there is no regulations like that because they thinks that posting their winning in the social media is like a prestigious.
I don't see any reason why people will post winnings on Social Media just to gain attention. In most cases social media is not regulated and this action might expose gambling to children. The most challenging part of this issue is that most celebrities with high followership also post these wins and this could fuel unhealthy gambling activities. Just as you rightly stated, it is ideal to keep your gambling activities secret because it will reduce the risk of being attacked after a big win. Gambling in my area is not well accepted therefore posting your win on social media could fuel discrimination and even cyberbullying.

Based on the url or article, I see that you are from the Philippines. It's kinda strange because gambling is allowed in your country but there's a law being proposed to charge and penalize people for talking or posting about online gambling. Maybe they aim to control gambling problems, especially influencers who cannot control their problem with excessive gambling. I hope that they can balance between controlling gambling issues and allowing people to express themselves freely
There has been an increase in celebrities showcasing their gambling experience on social media in the Philippines. This might be the measure by the government to minimize these actions because they have large followers which might include underage individuals. It is also possible that some gambling firms pay these celebrities to promote their platforms. If I am allowed to make input in the bill I will propose that anybody who posts gambling wins or loses on social media for commercial purposes will be fined.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Iroh on March 16, 2024, 08:43:50 AM
I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.

Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: _act_ on March 16, 2024, 10:43:13 AM
I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.

Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.
Under 18s are online. You will see people advertising gambling online very well where children are visiting. That would be the reason for something like that was put in place. I like such country because they allow freedom and make adults to gamble but they should not advertise it which is something I see to be good. The government is not finding ways to reduce gambling but looking for ways it will not be talked about in the community which I think is not bad.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: robelneo on March 16, 2024, 10:50:39 AM

Any chance this bill will be approved?

And its such a big amount compare to other crimes, the heck Sen Padilla. because this I think will affect Filipinos here in the forum if they proved us to be promoting casinos. I did have a medium account where I wrote  some articles about gambling and added my referral links and I did create a youtube channel for it.

I get where the senator is coming from but it does sound extreme. Being in an early stage, there is likely to be changes about the bill (if approved) as well so I'm expecting it to be laxer.

I also doubt the bill would be retroactive -- means past actions will not be counted because it doesn't sound fair if it's retroactive. Plus, they would need to fine the influencers first so imagine the noise from that community lol.

But I guess this is one of the reasons why I try to stay private on bitcointalk because you never know what happens next.

This is one bill that is interesting to follow, gambling is very much legal in our country and many content creators are getting rich creating content about gambling, I also want this manipulative promotion stopped, but there should be provisions and specifics on who are the target of this bill.
I don't think it will reach this forum, its only for content creators on social medias who have large following, I hope to get this bill approve as early as possible and let's see where it leads to, will it stop content creators from promoting gambling in their channels and pages.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: HelliumZ on March 16, 2024, 11:50:53 AM
There's always a double standard in government laws, so you need to get used for that.

They're accepting gambling because they know they can make a lot money by taxing the casino, but they don't want people to promote the casino because they didn't want to see people know their country are really known as gambling (many people still think gambling is bad), so they want to get a good impression for other people especially from foreign countries.
The reasoning you provided could be a possible reason.  Then there are some other important issues due to which the government has banned the promotion of casinos or gambling despite legalization. At present, if online gambling is advertised, children below 18 years of age are seen as visitors, so they will become addicted to all these gambling out of interest, thus their career will be threatened. Moreover, the government may have banned gambling promotion considering some other important issues.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Lanatsa on March 16, 2024, 12:21:50 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)

Totally contradictory right? Or totally that government doesnt really like on publishing things. I do actually mind boggled on whats up into their minds on which considering that they do allow gambling
but they are really that prohibiting about posting those winnings. If they are really that after for gambling revenue then they would really be that not making those kind of prohibitions.

Unless, if they do still allow gambling but they dont like for them to be advertised or be exposed because they dont like that gambling addiction would really be rising on the charts or in numbers?
If they do then there's nothing we can do if they are really just that making that kind of decisions on which its citizens wont really be having no choice but to comply or would be avoiding
into those things which are prohibited if they wont really be experiencing any issues. So it would really be that your choice.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Natsuu on March 16, 2024, 12:39:52 PM
I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.

Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.

Nakes sense. It's kinda crazy you can gamble all you want but can't chat about it online without getting in trouble. If they're worried about the bad side of gambling why not just make stricter rules for it instead of trying to hush people up? But I guess really tough laws might not go down well with everyone. Still, tightening things up online could help keep kids away from it. It's a real tricky situation, you know? Balancing freedom and control ain't easy


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: el kaka22 on March 16, 2024, 01:03:54 PM
Same logic exists for drugs in my nation. Not bad drugs, I mean medicine, like for headache or stomachache etc etc, the ones that you go and buy at pharmacy. Obviously it is legal to sell them, how would we not die if it was illegal to sell medicine lol. However, promoting them is illegal, because doctors should be prescribing them and people should not be requesting them.

So all in all, the yare all illegal and you just have to go to a doctor, they will give you what you should take, you get the prescription, take it to a pharmacy, and the pharmacist will give you what the doctor wrote down. This is similar, so if you bet then you can bet but promoting it could cause a lot more trouble on the long run and should be avoided.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Samlucky O on March 16, 2024, 01:12:55 PM
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.
That is quit a strange thing I have ever heard of. I can't emerging a country penalizing people for talking about gambling yet they allow people Play gamble in shoplets and many other casino centre. Although I know gambling is not  legal practice. But allowing people to play and open casino yet they deal with people who speaks about it, is what baffles me. I am also in support that if they can't handle or stand the chance to handle gambling issues they better call it a quit. Because I don see enough reason to benefit from something yet criticise it for nothing.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 16, 2024, 01:16:53 PM
Same logic exists for drugs in my nation. Not bad drugs, I mean medicine, like for headache or stomachache etc etc, the ones that you go and buy at pharmacy. Obviously it is legal to sell them, how would we not die if it was illegal to sell medicine lol. However, promoting them is illegal, because doctors should be prescribing them and people should not be requesting them.
If that medicine is strong, why the pharmacist allows to sell the medicine without prescription? ???

In my country, someone who don't have prescription will not able to buy strong medicine, you can only get the alternative which is not strong as that medicine.

I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.
I believe it's not all gamblers will be jailed because if the government is catching everyone who talk about gambling, then the jail will be full and it would harm their countries. Instead, they only catch the big person i.e. popular or rich.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: swogerino on March 16, 2024, 01:20:19 PM
At first when I read the title I thought a strange law indeed but after thinking about it for some time I agree with such law in the country.I am assuming people go deep down in addiction there and the government don't want widespread of the gamblers throughout their territory so they keep it simple,you can play gambling as long as you don't interfere with other people by impacting them to join gambling.In such country I assume gambling is geared only toward those who really want to play and this country does not need promotion,especially online promotion of this type.For us in Europe this may seem strange yet I am sure there are countries suffering from gambling and the government wants to restrict it,but not completely as they want to have taxes because of such businesses also.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Odusko on March 16, 2024, 01:21:19 PM
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.
From my observations, this look like a mix up because the thing doesn't connect how can you allow the use of gambling and then ban those who won from same it from celebrating or promoting the game, this is a big mix up and I believe the bill will not scale through legislative process.
One or two other legislators will definitely kick against tlsuch Bill and I believe there is going to be more approvals for public gambling if it already allowed in the country just as the ops aiad, most of the time, some of those bills are just Born out of personal interest and prejudice mentality which will be scrapped out in the long run.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: junder on March 16, 2024, 01:30:52 PM
I think It's wise for government to have regulations on gambling in a way to respond a common concern for public welfare and the potential negative consequences associated with excessive gambling. Governments often implement regulations to protect citizens from the harmful effects of gambling addiction. It's better to ensure that gambling activities are conducted responsibly. It would be a good policy to promote responsible gambling and limit exposure to gambling advertising, especially to vulnerable populations such as young people. That is a primary objective of many government regulations.

Regulating the industry and controlling where and how gambling activities are advertised are the policy to mitigate the risks of addiction and minimize the impact on society. Encouraging online gambling, where activities can be more easily monitored and controlled, may indeed be part of the government's strategy to regulate gambling in a more controlled environment. Online platforms make gamblers easier to set limits on their spending and time spent gambling.

I agree with you, of course the government has a responsibility towards its people, such as setting rules for its people about gambling that should not be done excessively, but even so, there are still many people who gamble excessively, they tend to gamble inappropriately so that they experience huge financial loss. Even though a country legalizes gambling, it doesn't mean we can gamble excessively. Of course, if we really like gambling, we hope we can do it responsibly.

Gambling that is done should be done responsibly, with the large number of advertisements displayed on social media, it is indeed attracting more and more people to gamble, but even so, we should not gamble excessively. being able to take responsibility for everything you do is good. especially with today's young people who are very closely connected to social media in their daily lives, they are definitely familiar with online gambling, the thing that must be paid attention to is that we must be able to see the bad effects of gambling, which if done excessively, there have been many cases of the bad effects of gambling which was done excessively and I think that can be a lesson for us, so we don't do the same thing.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: acroman08 on March 16, 2024, 01:40:50 PM
so what do you think of this law, is this right?
It's moronic!

I wonder if this includes celebrities who have been hired to advertise casinos because I've seen a lot of well known celebrities in the philippines who advertise casinos. if celebrities are not included on this, it will be extremely unfair to people who are not celebrities, if this bill somehow get passed it will take a lot of opportunity to a lot of people.

I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
I think you meant to write $9k instead of $90k, because $90k would equal to 5M PHP.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: leonair on March 16, 2024, 02:30:34 PM
It depends on the laws of each country. Gambling may be legalized in your country for those who want to gamble on their own initiative.  But if you promote the casino site with various interesting slides, videos or other content then it is also on them. May affect people who originally did not want to gamble. so such people can get upset and complain against the promoter and at that time the promoter can be jailed it will depend on the laws of each country. So to know this, you have to study law first


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Odusko on March 16, 2024, 04:55:12 PM
It depends on the laws of each country. Gambling may be legalized in your country for those who want to gamble on their own initiative.  But if you promote the casino site with various interesting slides, videos or other content then it is also on them. May affect people who originally did not want to gamble. so such people can get upset and complain against the promoter and at that time the promoter can be jailed it will depend on the laws of each country. So to know this, you have to study law first
You have a point any ways because from the promotion of those gambling site, it may attract under children tolinto gambling which is what the government want to prevent, and also we have to note some other factors that may possibly put the government in the position to ban public promotion of gambling in the media or social such as the money laundering worries of the government but even at that the government will ban all their official from operating a casino account or involved in any form of gambling.
But realistically we need to be clear on something, which is that the government won't get good feedback from such laws because of their want to be strict on gambling they should have hand out a total ban instead of a partial ban on public promotion while they accept and allow gambling within they country.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on March 16, 2024, 05:06:04 PM
That is a really weird law in your country. Why would they imprison someone if they post or promote gambling when gambling is legal and everyone can gamble? It seems really weird if we are comparing it to other countries. Perhaps there's a reason why they would do such things, like, are there a large number of criminal cases that are related to gambling? Or is the number of gamblers in there growing?

Whatever the reason, somehow it is a good law if they are limiting something. With this law, it can also limit the number of new gamblers since maybe there are an uncontrollable number of people who are gambling and an absolute number of vloggers or influencers that are promoting them. Since social media is a wide place, maybe kids can see them, and there's a chance that they might be influenced by the vloggers that are promoting them.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: GigaBit on March 16, 2024, 05:24:18 PM
There must be a logical reason for making such a law. Where online gambling or physical gambling is permitted but direct promotion is prohibited. I think the purpose of making such a law is that gambling cannot be encouraged there. If one conducts gambling at his own wish he has sufficient freedom but when it is publicized he becomes a criminal. I think this is definitely a good law. If gambling is legalized in most countries that have existing laws, they will be allowed to do all kinds of promotions, including gambling and advertising. But the laws of your country legalize gambling but do not allow it to be encouraged which is certainly commendable. Government in a country can take any decision considering various opportunities, benefits and alternative possibilities.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: decodx on March 16, 2024, 05:40:59 PM
so what do you think of this law, is this right?

I get what you're saying, but I don't think gambling ads being illegal while gambling itself is legal is that weird.  It kinda reminds me of alcohol - it's legal to buy but theres all these rules about selling it or drinking it public and  my guess is they're worried about problem gambling and addiction.  So maybe cracking down on constant ads everywhere is their way to help addicts out?  Seems contradictory though, right? Makes you wonder if there's some other reason they don't want it promoted so much.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: o48o on March 16, 2024, 06:21:14 PM

Any chance this bill will be approved?

And its such a big amount compare to other crimes, the heck Sen Padilla. because this I think will affect Filipinos here in the forum if they proved us to be promoting casinos. I did have a medium account where I wrote  some articles about gambling and added my referral links and I did create a youtube channel for it.
I don't see link to actual proposal so i could read it word to word, and i am not expert on philippines gambling laws, so it's hard to do any deductive reasoning about if it's going to pass, but i am assuming they are considering it could be targeted to young people, especially in some social media platforms where kids are active that argument could hold. Especially when age limit for gambling in philippines is 21.

Similar rules for advertisement bans for certain fields exists already all around the world and EU is setting up tighter laws against influencer marketing too.

Traditional media and traditional advertisement was easier to control, but regulators want to catch up with guerrilla adverisement like influencers. And since that fight is way harder to win as most of them don't admit that they are advertising. This could be one step against it. If they don't need to prove that influencer is getting something in return, it's way more easier just to enforce blanket ban pro gambling content in general.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: taufik123 on March 16, 2024, 06:42:53 PM
It depends on the laws of each country. Gambling may be legalized in your country for those who want to gamble on their own initiative.  But if you promote the casino site with various interesting slides, videos or other content then it is also on them. May affect people who originally did not want to gamble. so such people can get upset and complain against the promoter and at that time the promoter can be jailed it will depend on the laws of each country. So to know this, you have to study law first
Such regulations are too cornering gambling, even though it has been legalized.
There should be places where to promote gambling, and these places are already addressed.

There may be rules that do not allow promoting in public places or places that are too crowded with minors.
Not completely prohibiting someone from promoting gambling either through slides, videos and other content.

If it is prohibitive, of course it is obvious, not allowing it at all, but if it is still legal, it must be flexible and equally profitable,
because the casino must have paid taxes to the government that legalized it.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Ever-young on March 16, 2024, 06:50:57 PM
I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.

Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.

Nakes sense. It's kinda crazy you can gamble all you want but can't chat about it online without getting in trouble. If they're worried about the bad side of gambling why not just make stricter rules for it instead of trying to hush people up? But I guess really tough laws might not go down well with everyone. Still, tightening things up online could help keep kids away from it. It's a real tricky situation, you know? Balancing freedom and control ain't easy
It's a difficult angle and you make an excellent point regarding the conflict between freedom and control. There is always a balance to strike between allowing people to make their own decisions and protecting them from potential damage. Finding the correct balance is especially challenging in situations when addiction is a real risk, such as gambling. As you mentioned, any alterations to gambling regulations may be met with resistance from some people.
I believe that achieving a balance will always be difficult because people's definitions of "freedom" and "control" differ. Some people believe that any gambling prohibitions violate their right to make their own decisions. Others see greater limitations as a helpful step toward safeguarding individuals from harm. So, even if a policy is implemented to strike a balance, it is possible that some people will be dissatisfied with it.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Smartvirus on March 16, 2024, 06:58:39 PM
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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
I can understand the reason behind the prohibition of any form of gambling promotion and that is in regards to the number of audience it could accord the industry and the internet does not discriminate on age grade, have hot zero control of the persons that would be fed this information hence, this becomes an attempt to limit or put some form of control on the public whom would be receiving this information.

Still, it doesn’t make a lot of sense as these are taxed industry and not allowing any form of internet publicity is directly hampering the growth of the industry which you’re taxing.
All that tough doesn’t stop humans from gambling and indirectly, these materials will go out.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Zoomic on March 16, 2024, 07:26:21 PM
This is a selfish rule
If the government wants to restrict gambling, they should do so completely and not let the existing businesses (casinos and other gambling companies) suffer because of no promotional activities and advertisements online and we know online promotion is one fast means of reaching a wider audience/customers. This is a greedy attempt on the side of the government, they clearly don't like gambling yet they legalise it so they can receive revenue from these gambling companies. It will only be fair if the government monitors online gambling promotions instead and place restrictions on certain promotional contents, including some channels used to promote such contents.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Quidat on March 16, 2024, 07:41:13 PM
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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
I can understand the reason behind the prohibition of any form of gambling promotion and that is in regards to the number of audience it could accord the industry and the internet does not discriminate on age grade, have hot zero control of the persons that would be fed this information hence, this becomes an attempt to limit or put some form of control on the public whom would be receiving this information.

Still, it doesn’t make a lot of sense as these are taxed industry and not allowing any form of internet publicity is directly hampering the growth of the industry which you’re taxing.
All that tough doesn’t stop humans from gambling and indirectly, these materials will go out.
It wouldnt be still something that cant be stopped despite of those prohibitions when it comes to exposure on which if gambling industry on such country is really just that doing well
then it wont really be needing that much exposure. The thing i do have in mind is on whats the reason that they do prohibit those kind of gestures or showcase those wins is that
they dont really like to get those negative inputs or impressions by the public despite of its being legal. We do know that not all would really be pleased out when it comes to
gambling despite of being allow but of course there would really be a certain market for that and its something that couldnt really be stopped.

As a citizen then if its something that you would be put up in jail, then why the heck you would really be doing such thing?


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Wakate on March 16, 2024, 07:54:01 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
I think this is a big trap for gamblers especially those that are not aware that advertising or talking about gambling activities would bring a big penalty. This is why we need to always read and make sure that any country we are going to, we know the law they so we don't become victims of circumstances we are nit aware about. In this kind of country that gambling is eligible but a single adverts attract sanctions that generate funds for the government. I think this is a trap and we should be aware of what we are doing so we don't become a victim of what we don't know and this is mostly for the expatriates living in a new country.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Potato Chips on March 16, 2024, 08:10:45 PM
This is one bill that is interesting to follow, gambling is very much legal in our country and many content creators are getting rich creating content about gambling,

and content creators are just the tip of the iceberg. The government is likely earning millions from taxes and fees from gambling operators. Winners from some jackpots may get taxed as well. A full blown ban on promotions will surely hit the industry.

I don't think it will reach this forum, its only for content creators on social medias who have large following,

I guess you have a point with bitcointalk being a non-mainstream platform hence likely won't be on their radar. From a resources to reward ratio perspective, it's such a poor target as well because it doesn't take a genius to know no one, if not, most would be able to pay huge fines.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Raflesia on March 16, 2024, 08:25:40 PM
This is a little strange actually because if in the end the senate's goal as said in the article is to reduce or even make gambling nonexistent in the country then indeed all forms of gambling should be prohibited not only in the online form but in the offline form because it would be very useless if they really want to stop gambling activities for the community or the youth in the country but indeed legalize gambling even there are still some legal outlets for lotteries or horse racing as you said . Its just like you forbid your child to play games but you buy a console that can be used for your child :D

But maybe in this case there is another consideration where it is to limit students because for some online sites that do not use KYC then anyone has the right to be in it unlike lottery outlets or casinos that are already visible then there must be some special requirements that can be used as a reference that only adults can be in it but it is a little silly because in the end gambling still exists and it doesnt make sense with this reason.
The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Issa56 on March 16, 2024, 08:54:27 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
And what’s the reason for that? Since you are from the country, you should know the reason why the government places ban on gambling advertisements in your country, because I haven’t heard something like this before and it’s really surprising to me. How will you allow gambling in a country, but you decided to place ban on gambling advertisement, with a fine and risk being jailed, definitely their will be a reason for that, but any reason for it, it looks some how to me, and it doesn’t make any sense to me.  

If the government is against gambling, then they should just place ban on it, instead of giving strict rules, and I don’t know if you can mention the country which you are from, maybe I can just do more research about the reason for banning gambling advertisement.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 16, 2024, 08:59:15 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
And what’s the reason for that? Since you are from the country, you should know the reason why the government places ban on gambling advertisements in your country, because I haven’t heard something like this before and it’s really surprising to me. How will you allow gambling in a country, but you decided to place ban on gambling advertisement, with a fine and risk being jailed, definitely their will be a reason for that, but any reason for it, it looks some how to me, and it doesn’t make any sense to me.  

If the government is against gambling, then they should just place ban on it, instead of giving strict rules, and I don’t know if you can mention the country which you are from, maybe I can just do more research about the reason for banning gambling advertisement.
Totally could make out some questions on why they've done such thing? They might not really just that want to published it out specially on television broadcast. Despite of gambling been allowed or legal
they dont want to let those children do see those ads on TV on which it might be giving out that kind of potential addiction. They are allowing on something that not allowed to make ads
on which same as you said that it would really be that raising up those kind of questions in mind on how they do that. If this would be the law then no one on their right minds would really be that
trying out to oppose on what the government had been set. There's nothing we can do but to follow on what the rules or laws are. You can gamble and incase you do win the better keep it
on yourself rather than on putting up yourself on such trouble.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: GxSTxV on March 16, 2024, 09:06:01 PM
I won’t say weird since it’s the same here in our region, where gambling lotto games are promoted normally on our national television channel, but they forbid you from promoting your winnings or opening casinos. The government is the only one who can promote and launch games for individuals to gamble. Otherwise, everything else is illegal.
This tells us that some governments are totally unaware of gambling games and the differences between one and another, also they intend ti benefit only their wallets instead of letting others to invest opening casinos or players to enjoy.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: cabron on March 16, 2024, 09:17:36 PM

I agree with those kids exposed to online casinos. The promotion of casinos should be monitored, anyone shouldn't be allowed to just promote to all audiences. A law for this I guess is necessary.

I won’t say weird since it’s the same here in our region, where gambling lotto games are promoted normally on our national television channel, but they forbid you from promoting your winnings or opening casinos. The government is the only one who can promote and launch games for individuals to gamble. Otherwise, everything else is illegal.
This tells us that some governments are totally unaware of gambling games and the differences between one and another, also they intend ti benefit only their wallets instead of letting others to invest opening casinos or players to enjoy.

It's not just about ads but the streamers online promoting these casinos are getting popular and their videos are shared because of the popularity of crypto. People are playing for the first time is increasing and their government is probably alarmed at the number of social media accounts reposting online casinos and trying to earn referral links.





Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: angrybirdy on March 16, 2024, 11:08:39 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)

it seems that the most target of this bill is for those influencers who will promote gambling in their contents. Because that's here in our country, usually when you watch videos via social media, you'll be surprised at the end of the video, there are a few minutes reserved for that in their promotion video, which for me is wrong. Why? Because there are content creators when the content is  for younger people so that means there are minors watching it and then suddenly there will be gambling at the end? what will the minor think? that gambling is just a normal game, we know how curious and talented they are, maybe later they are not of legal age but they already know how to gamble. That's also why the house bill was passed because of the number of complaints. Because here in our country, there are more and more influencers who promote gambling because the online gambling sites offer a lot of money to the people who will promote it and of course because money is involve, the others have no choice but to accept it.



Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: mirakal on March 16, 2024, 11:34:18 PM
This is a selfish rule
If the government wants to restrict gambling, they should do so completely and not let the existing businesses (casinos and other gambling companies) suffer because of no promotional activities and advertisements online and we know online promotion is one fast means of reaching a wider audience/customers. This is a greedy attempt on the side of the government, they clearly don't like gambling yet they legalise it so they can receive revenue from these gambling companies. It will only be fair if the government monitors online gambling promotions instead and place restrictions on certain promotional contents, including some channels used to promote such contents.
I think the government behaved like this since they just want to protect the welfare of their citizens not to fall into gambling addiction most particularly for minors who don’t have sufficient knowledge when it comes to gambling. Social media has become so influential these days and that even a single post about gambling can possibly attract thousands of aspiring gamblers. Gambling should be done in moderation, but if those gamblers who have winning history in gambling will continue to post positive views about gambling, and the government will not prohibit them from doing, then it’s as good to think that the government is allowing its citizens to fall eventually into gambling addiction.

Hence, proper rules and regulations should still be exercised when it comes to gambling, regardless of the fact that gambling is recognized and legalized in the country.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: topbitcoin on March 16, 2024, 11:41:40 PM
The rules OP mentioned, sound very contradictory. Because how could it not be... on the one hand, the country legalizes gambling, with many lottery outlets and places for betting on horse racing, but on the other hand, the country also threatens every gambler with fines and imprisonment for individuals who post or talk about gambling. . And this raises the question of whether gambling in this country is actually legal or not, because regulations like this will not only restrain lottery outlet owners but also their fans. Although I understand quite well, that this rule was deliberately created with the aim of controlling gambling activities carried out by the public, in order to anticipate the negative impacts of gambling. However, it seems that it would be better if regarding regulations, fines and penalties, this could be reviewed again and an evaluation carried out so that the right balance between regulation and freedom of speech can be ensured.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: lienfaye on March 17, 2024, 12:12:01 AM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Probably it's because of the influencers promoting gambling. They have many followers idolizing them especially the minors who are already exposed in social media. Many of these popular personality are now promoting gambling which is not really a good influence to many. Thus, it's not surprising if the Government will prohibit gambling promotions online.

Although it seems not fair since there are also physical gambling (like lotteries) wherein many people are exposed regardless of the age thus there's no difference really.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Maus0728 on March 17, 2024, 02:50:45 AM
I believe that this has to do with the fact that our country (the Philippines) is a hypocritically conservative of a country, what I mean by that is that most people in the country including the ruling class have a selective values and Christian morals that they're being used.

Another reason that I believe why this is a thing here is probably because the government don't want you to be competing with them when it comes to gambling business, that's the reason why they've got so much lottery outlets especially in poor neighborhoods is because gambling business is so profitable that they can't afford to have a competition but since they can't outright ban businessmen from making their own gambling business since doing so would make them a hypocrite all over again, they do the oppression as subtle as possible, and they do that by using that law that you've mentioned, with less people knowing about gambling and those businesses, the smaller the option is, which means that they're going to be able to see only the ones that are promoted by the government.

The second reason why I think that they're doing this is just a conspiracy theory of mine, might make sense to me but not to everyone as there's probably holes in my theory that might refute it though.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on March 17, 2024, 06:41:45 AM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
This is strange, and the only thing that I can think about is

1. Maybe the government believes that online is far more powerful and mind controlling, they might believe that talking about gambling online will influence the leaders of tomorrow in their country, and if no one is talking about gambling online they can control irresponsible offline? Its just a guess.

2. Talking about gambling online can motivate people to start their own online gambling which can attract a lot of people than located casinos, maybe they want the located casinos to be in business since they are likely getting something from the casinos.

Some countries have weird rules and it's better if you keep to them, don't be persuaded by what people are telling you, because they are not in the same country as you, if something happens it won't affect them but you.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: bakasabo on March 17, 2024, 08:04:27 AM
Indeed this is a weird situation in your country. I have a bit strange situation in my country either. Offline casinos are legal. Online casinos are legal only if they are registered in my country and have local license. When I open other online casinos pages, sometimes I get a redirection to «gambling supervision inspection» page with a clause that usage of foreign online casinos is illegal and future its usage will get fined. And sometimes I did not get a redirection and can use foreign online casinos.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Reatim on March 17, 2024, 08:05:53 AM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
Maybe because of the rampant gambling advertising happening in gambling world now , almost every area of internet now has Gambling post that is now even very young kids are being a target of these advertisers so I think that made the lawmaker to have this in their target bills.

imagine you are allowing your kids having their facebook that you limit their friends and communications but here it is , those gambling ads popping everywhere? sorry but in this part I agree with the law makers .,


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: adpinbr on March 17, 2024, 09:54:01 PM
Well, I don’t really think this is possible just going to jail because you posted something about gambling or gambling casino, gambling has been existing for a long time lotto  different countries Has gambling activities and it has been existing. I don’t think it’s something that will be hidden people even do advert consigning their Lotto or gambling shops so many people depends on gambling even the rich not just the poor so this is not like a problem, so I don’t know why it will be issue of someone going to jail if you put something about gambling because a lot of adverts and promotion is going on in gambling so I don’t see it as a problem


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: LDL on March 17, 2024, 09:58:43 PM
This is a selfish rule
If the government wants to restrict gambling, they should do so completely and not let the existing businesses (casinos and other gambling companies) suffer because of no promotional activities and advertisements online and we know online promotion is one fast means of reaching a wider audience/customers. This is a greedy attempt on the side of the government, they clearly don't like gambling yet they legalise it so they can receive revenue from these gambling companies. It will only be fair if the government monitors online gambling promotions instead and place restrictions on certain promotional contents, including some channels used to promote such contents.
Although the law seems selfish at the moment, the matter is not so bad, especially if you analyze it well, then you will not consider the government's action as a selfish law. In particular, the government of that country has legalized gambling and casino, it is legalized by a natural law, but the government may not allow the promotion of gambling in that way, that is why it has strictly prohibited the promotion of gambling.
Considering the economic condition of a country, the government legalizes some prohibited things like smoking and drinking, but these two prohibited things are exempted by the government due to the large amount of tax. The government legalizes gambling and casinos just because of extra tax but keeping in mind the young generation the government stops the promotion of some things only considering the interest of the country despite legalizing all these prohibited things. It can be said to be a special strategy of the government.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Hispo on March 17, 2024, 10:01:23 PM
Well, I don’t really think this is possible just going to jail because you posted something about gambling or gambling casino, gambling has been existing for a long time lotto  different countries Has gambling activities and it has been existing. I don’t think it’s something that will be hidden people even do advert consigning their Lotto or gambling shops so many people depends on gambling even the rich not just the poor so this is not like a problem, so I don’t know why it will be issue of someone going to jail if you put something about gambling because a lot of adverts and promotion is going on in gambling so I don’t see it as a problem


Actually, being imprisoned because of something you post in social media is something which is quite possible to happen nowadays, the administration of the governments around the world already have the tools to track and find someone specific who posted whatever in their social media.
Take a look at what is going on in China, for example, people here cannot openly criticize the CCP in their social media, otherwise, they would be visited by forced of the state right at their doorstep and they will get scored to the police station.
I am not saying it is something which will happen widely in the world and specially in the Americas, but it is possible. Any country which considers itself to the competent enough will have a department for electronic and internet research/investigation.

Leaving behind all of it, I still believe these kinds of laws sound rather like contradictions.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Fortify on March 17, 2024, 10:14:39 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.


It's not that unusual really and the logic behind it could be called reasonable, if the aim is to protect younger generations from too much exposure. When you start seeing cartoony type adverts, you can potentially see who they are really targeting and it's time to push back. The same bans are in place for tobacco and alcohol in many countries, but it can be hard to find the sensible balance. You'll often find that these things are not coming out of nowhere, but politicians will be riding a wave of public sentiment that is for whatever reason targeted on gambling right now. It's also a lot easier for sneaky companies to subvert restrictions online and try to push the boundaries whereas their TV adverts might be more closely monitored on local channels.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Agbe on March 17, 2024, 10:25:56 PM
Now I understand at first I was like what kind of country is that but when I finished reading your post I came to understand that the country is trying to hide his identity from gambling online. But that is bad habit because already there betting sites running online in the country and yet they don't allow just a post online that is really unusual. And such things like this people must definitely fall for it because if gambling is legal which means people or gamblers must discuss about their winnings and other odds online so such obnoxious policies or law is not good. If they don't want people to participate in gambling then they should make it clear for them.

And if they are doing to to restrict children from not seeing them then what of the physical conversations. That is even the worst.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: arimamib on March 17, 2024, 11:11:00 PM
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Maybe because of the rampant gambling advertising happening in gambling world now , almost every area of internet now has Gambling post that is now even very young kids are being a target of these advertisers so I think that made the lawmaker to have this in their target bills.

imagine you are allowing your kids having their facebook that you limit their friends and communications but here it is , those gambling ads popping everywhere? sorry but in this part I agree with the law makers .,
This is a concerning trend in the gambling industry. Gambling advertising across various online platforms can potentially expose kids to gambling-related content. The widespread presence of gambling advertisements in digital spaces poses significant challenges for parents and caregivers striving to create a safe online environment for their children. Even with strict privacy settings and limitations on social media usage, the pervasive nature of gambling ads makes it difficult to shield young individuals from exposure to such content.

Given the potential impact of gambling advertising on minors, it's understandable why lawmakers may be inclined to address this issue through legislation and regulatory measures. Imposing restrictions on the marketing and promotion of gambling products aims to mitigate the risks associated with underage gambling and protect the well-being of kids. It would be stupid if there is no policy regarding this concern. Efforts to limit the visibility of gambling ads on digital platforms align with broader initiatives aimed at safeguarding vulnerable populations from the potential harms of excessive gambling exposure.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Dewi Aries on March 18, 2024, 12:20:42 AM
Honestly, I don't understand the rules or laws like this in a country, people are allowed to gamble but they are not allowed to publish the results of their gambling activities such as when you get a win that you want to show off in the public eye or anything else that smells of gambling and will be subject to quite severe penalties if you end up breaking it. But if you look at the gambling access provided by the government which is in the form of real or physical gambling that you can find in various corners of the city then it seems that in my opinion the government is trying to limit gambling from most children, because as we know that this is the digital age where children today spend more time playing smartphones when they have free time such as after school.

Or simply your government seems to only allow adults to engage in gambling and is trying to cut off the reach of gambling from children so they made this kind of regulation that prohibits anyone from publicizing it by posting on some social media, but it could be that my prediction is wrong, but I think it doesn't matter because this is my point of view for this quite confusing regulatory issue. :D


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Yogee on March 18, 2024, 12:34:42 AM
Honestly, I don't understand the rules or laws like this in a country, people are allowed to gamble but they are not allowed to publish the results of their gambling activities such as when you get a win that you want to show off in the public eye or anything else that smells of gambling and will be subject to quite severe penalties if you end up breaking it. But if you look at the gambling access provided by the government which is in the form of real or physical gambling that you can find in various corners of the city then it seems that in my opinion the government is trying to limit gambling from most children, because as we know that this is the digital age where children today spend more time playing smartphones when they have free time such as after school.

Or simply your government seems to only allow adults to engage in gambling and is trying to cut off the reach of gambling from children so they made this kind of regulation that prohibits anyone from publicizing it by posting on some social media, but it could be that my prediction is wrong, but I think it doesn't matter because this is my point of view for this quite confusing regulatory issue. :D
It's basically saying you are free to gamble when of legal age but keep your gambling activities to yourself which is not a bad policy in itself. I personally have no problem with that since you don't really need to brag about winnings and encourage others to do the same or follow your footsteps. Most people who post such things are looking to earn from referrals or from sponsorships so it's better to just cut it off.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: angrybirdy on March 18, 2024, 08:10:39 AM
Honestly, I don't understand the rules or laws like this in a country, people are allowed to gamble but they are not allowed to publish the results of their gambling activities such as when you get a win that you want to show off in the public eye or anything else that smells of gambling and will be subject to quite severe penalties if you end up breaking it. But if you look at the gambling access provided by the government which is in the form of real or physical gambling that you can find in various corners of the city then it seems that in my opinion the government is trying to limit gambling from most children, because as we know that this is the digital age where children today spend more time playing smartphones when they have free time such as after school.

Or simply your government seems to only allow adults to engage in gambling and is trying to cut off the reach of gambling from children so they made this kind of regulation that prohibits anyone from publicizing it by posting on some social media, but it could be that my prediction is wrong, but I think it doesn't matter because this is my point of view for this quite confusing regulatory issue. :D
It's basically saying you are free to gamble when of legal age but keep your gambling activities to yourself which is not a bad policy in itself. I personally have no problem with that since you don't really need to brag about winnings and encourage others to do the same or follow your footsteps. Most people who post such things are looking to earn from referrals or from sponsorships so it's better to just cut it off.

Usually the only ones who post about gambling are those influencers and vloggers where they promote gambling on different social media platforms without thinking that many minors are likely to watch, that's probably the purpose of why there is a law about that whoever is found posting about gambling will be charged. Yes, we know whether gambling is legal or not in our country, but no one has stated whether promoting it on public social platforms is also legal.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: nullama on March 18, 2024, 09:31:39 AM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)

I've seen other countries with similar laws about other stuff.

I think it's alright.

Better than banning gambling.

They basically want to allow gambling but not make it popular, or obviously there.

If you know, you can get it legally.

If you don't know, you will not get into gambling.

I think it works fine.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Cookdata on March 18, 2024, 10:32:41 AM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

This is like saying, you can come to our land, you are allow to farm and harvest for your own consumption but you are not allow to tell anyone that you were able to harvest or had some infested with diseases and you must not tell people that we gave you a land to plant. This is insane and looks more like dictatorship, if you they don't see gambling as social exercise, they shouldn't allow people to play it or legalize it in the first place, it will not only discourage people but it will send a message that gambling is completely not allowed.

On a second thought, I don't think there is a smoke without fire, something must have trigger them to set this kind of rule in place, like we know how gambling influences do spread and how people are lazy to be productive when they see gambling as means of making money when they are supposed to he productive in to boost the economy growth. Kids influence might also be the reason why the ban of promotions I think.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 18, 2024, 10:42:02 AM
Gambling is rampant in Philippines and we have so many PH users in this forum who are regular gamblers. However the government there making such laws does not sound abnormal to me because of past articles I have come across where they try to correct something without addressing the root cause.

Possible that they are trying to curb gambling promotion from country members. However there are so many influencers promoting gambling on a large scale this law seems like a small hammer for them.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: borovichok on March 18, 2024, 10:25:53 PM
I don't see the possibility of such bill scaling through in the Parliament.  This will be a dumb law. How will you consider betting legal and then prohibit adverts online. The question is how will the bookmakers who pay tax to the government make adverts? I trust the bookmakers to ensure that such bill doesn't see the light of the day. Such law is likened to gifting someone and then telling the person not to make use of the gift.

I think such bill will be modified to state areas or channels where gambling advert shouldn't be placed to control younger people from having assess to gambling platforms and not prohibit it totally.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: DaNNy001 on March 18, 2024, 10:54:05 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
Fucking crazy man, I mean I have never seen anything like this, when you talk about odd rules, I think I rate this one as one among the high ranks because it's totally absurd for gambling to be done locally every where but no one can publish it online. Well it would be nice knowing such country so that I will remember to stay off it because what's the joy in gambling when you don't get post online, I mean so many people literally thrills from the joy they get through some of these kind of restricted activities.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: nullama on March 19, 2024, 08:06:26 AM
I don't see the possibility of such bill scaling through in the Parliament.  This will be a dumb law. How will you consider betting legal and then prohibit adverts online. The question is how will the bookmakers who pay tax to the government make adverts? I trust the bookmakers to ensure that such bill doesn't see the light of the day. Such law is likened to gifting someone and then telling the person not to make use of the gift.

I think such bill will be modified to state areas or channels where gambling advert shouldn't be placed to control younger people from having assess to gambling platforms and not prohibit it totally.

It's quite normal to have something legal, but not encouraged. Nothing strange with that.

They always end up attracting people from one way or another. Once you get a person once, they know how it works for the rest of their lives, and they also comment about to other people.

But if you are somehow isolated from that, you don't get the ads in your face.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: KiaKia on March 19, 2024, 09:15:09 AM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)

Your country want the best for its citizens.

They care about their youths, maybe after seeing the damages that gambling have done to some part of other countries?

I can't say that they are doing this wrong, gambling should be taken away from the public, there must be other ways of promoting gambling, we know how powerful social media have become today, imagine everyone on Facebook shilling gambling.

Even underage students will be caught in the trap, and addiction on young people are very tough to beat, its for the greater good of the country, if you love your country you should abide by the law.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on March 19, 2024, 10:25:29 AM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)

Your country want the best for its citizens.

They care about their youths, maybe after seeing the damages that gambling have done to some part of other countries?

I can't say that they are doing this wrong, gambling should be taken away from the public, there must be other ways of promoting gambling, we know how powerful social media have become today, imagine everyone on Facebook shilling gambling.

Even underage students will be caught in the trap, and addiction on young people are very tough to beat, its for the greater good of the country, if you love your country you should abide by the law.
That's also the main reason I think they make this Bill. A lot of social media influencers are now promoting gambling with their channels, despite knowing they are followed mostly by kids. By promoting gambling in their channels, becomes the reason why a lot of younger generations have been open to gambling and dared to try gambling at an early age.

They are not a good influence on the kids and even I see those influencers differently than they just started. Those kinds of influencers only think of the amount of money they can get from promoting gambling, and don't think of the future of the kids watching them. It's not good at all.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Dewi Aries on March 19, 2024, 05:46:57 PM
Honestly, I don't understand the rules or laws like this in a country, people are allowed to gamble but they are not allowed to publish the results of their gambling activities such as when you get a win that you want to show off in the public eye or anything else that smells of gambling and will be subject to quite severe penalties if you end up breaking it. But if you look at the gambling access provided by the government which is in the form of real or physical gambling that you can find in various corners of the city then it seems that in my opinion the government is trying to limit gambling from most children, because as we know that this is the digital age where children today spend more time playing smartphones when they have free time such as after school.

Or simply your government seems to only allow adults to engage in gambling and is trying to cut off the reach of gambling from children so they made this kind of regulation that prohibits anyone from publicizing it by posting on some social media, but it could be that my prediction is wrong, but I think it doesn't matter because this is my point of view for this quite confusing regulatory issue. :D
It's basically saying you are free to gamble when of legal age but keep your gambling activities to yourself which is not a bad policy in itself. I personally have no problem with that since you don't really need to brag about winnings and encourage others to do the same or follow your footsteps. Most people who post such things are looking to earn from referrals or from sponsorships so it's better to just cut it off.

Yes that's right, for some people who are always closed or don't overreact when they get a win for example or even when they are one of the people who are quite closed in their lives then rules like this really won't be a problem because they are just connoisseurs and not someone who always has the ambition to brag about the results of their gambling activities. On the other hand, from what you said, I think I would conclude that you are directing your ideas to some people who do act as promotional agents of casinos such as stremers or influencers who always advertise on some social media with the aim of attracting many people who in turn get benefits or income from sponsors who are their partners.

This is another thing that is different from what I said earlier where now we see from another point of view about why a country applies this kind of regulation that maybe they are limiting the promotion of online-based gambling in their country so they prohibit anyone from posting anything that smells of gambling on some social media but still I think limiting the reach of children is one of the government's goals also by implementing regulations like this.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Antotena on March 19, 2024, 05:56:38 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

Gambling is going to be a fail business in that region because no business succeed without marketing and how do you market a gambling platform when it is illegal in this case? If this is not wickedness then I don't know what to call it. This is more like trying to ban gambling but perhaps they see it as trying to make people not to exercise their freedom and right, then they implement this protocol to discourage people from gambling because with this, no gambling platform can even make a poster for people to see, it will be taken off and fine for such misconduct.

There is no way this is a democracy, $90k for making a talk about gambling,  how much will a person be charge when they steal? This is not, I'm seeing this for the first time but as I said, this is just a way to stop people from gambling completely, these warming aren't even friendly.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Rabata on March 19, 2024, 06:29:36 PM
Honestly, I don't understand the rules or laws like this in a country, people are allowed to gamble but they are not allowed to publish the results of their gambling activities such as when you get a win that you want to show off in the public eye or anything else that smells of gambling and will be subject to quite severe penalties if you end up breaking it. But if you look at the gambling access provided by the government which is in the form of real or physical gambling that you can find in various corners of the city then it seems that in my opinion the government is trying to limit gambling from most children, because as we know that this is the digital age where children today spend more time playing smartphones when they have free time such as after school.

Or simply your government seems to only allow adults to engage in gambling and is trying to cut off the reach of gambling from children so they made this kind of regulation that prohibits anyone from publicizing it by posting on some social media, but it could be that my prediction is wrong, but I think it doesn't matter because this is my point of view for this quite confusing regulatory issue. :D
It's basically saying you are free to gamble when of legal age but keep your gambling activities to yourself which is not a bad policy in itself. I personally have no problem with that since you don't really need to brag about winnings and encourage others to do the same or follow your footsteps. Most people who post such things are looking to earn from referrals or from sponsorships so it's better to just cut it off.

Usually the only ones who post about gambling are those influencers and vloggers where they promote gambling on different social media platforms without thinking that many minors are likely to watch, that's probably the purpose of why there is a law about that whoever is found posting about gambling will be charged. Yes, we know whether gambling is legal or not in our country, but no one has stated whether promoting it on public social platforms is also legal.
Governments of all countries strive to improve of the people of their country. The government must have a keen eye on what the people of that country will do to get opportunities and what to do will degrade them. A government is the most powerful in terms of power in a country but is again elected by the people of its country. In the country government has to take decisions on various issues even after any pressure. He may have been allowed to gamble, perhaps under public pressure or to collect revenue. But because those governments are aware, they work against the spread of gambling through propaganda.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Kavelj22 on March 19, 2024, 09:37:57 PM
In fact, I don't find it strange because the same thing happens with alcohol. Most countries allow the production and trade of wines at the same time that the law prohibits any advertising of any brands of those wines or any other brands. The same thing happens on a global scale for the cigarette industry as well.
All of these sectors have characteristics that make dealing with them special, given that these products should not appear on any occasion for children under a certain age or there should be any incentives for consumption.

In my country, the government has a monopoly on the gambling sector because the only betting company is a national government sports betting company, and two casino licenses have been granted, allowing them to provide their services to foreign tourists only.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: blockman on March 19, 2024, 10:29:21 PM
It's still a bill so it's not yet a law. I have got a lot of friends that are gamblers and they always share their betting slip, wins and losses in their facebook accounts. Once this passes onto law then it will surely going to stop them from sharing the same content materials that have been done. A lot of them are agents of these casinos and that's why it will affect their hustle if it happens to become a law. But as of now, there's nothing to worry about it if it's not yet a whole law and not yet signed by the president.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: nullama on March 20, 2024, 07:07:12 AM
It's still a bill so it's not yet a law. I have got a lot of friends that are gamblers and they always share their betting slip, wins and losses in their facebook accounts. Once this passes onto law then it will surely going to stop them from sharing the same content materials that have been done. A lot of them are agents of these casinos and that's why it will affect their hustle if it happens to become a law. But as of now, there's nothing to worry about it if it's not yet a whole law and not yet signed by the president.

Yeah, that's usually how people actually make money with gambling, through ads or social media, etc.

To make money actually gambling is a different story, and it's actually quite difficult. But it's fun, so many people do it as entertainment.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: dezoel on March 20, 2024, 07:49:41 AM
Talking about our wins to someone else is risky because you may get robbed by them, therefore this bill right there is good to give us a safety. Another good reason is that we can now be able to solo our winnings :D. This is only simple to follow and I don't think it was a big deal because after all, gambling is still very legal in your country.

Another thing that they restrict are online gambling ads, which again a good thing, as we know almost everyone know are accessing the web and we don't want our kids to get exposed to it. You must only be careful if you are a member of the forum and a part of a gambling campaign, as they may also target you.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Z390 on March 20, 2024, 07:56:26 AM
Talking about our wins to someone else is risky because you may get robbed by them, therefore this bill right there is good to give us a safety. Another good reason is that we can now be able to solo our winnings :D. This is only simple to follow and I don't think it was a big deal because after all, gambling is still very legal in your country.

Another thing that they restrict are online gambling ads, which again a good thing, as we know almost everyone know are accessing the web and we don't want our kids to get exposed to it. You must only be careful if you are a member of the forum and a part of a gambling campaign, as they may also target you.

Some countries laws don't care, they will promote gambling in every possible way, they don't mind having drunk and drugged underage on the streets running wild, but OP country is different, not many countries are like this, and he should be grateful.

Gambling should be a solo thing, under the radar, and its only those that find shall see it, this is the best for all the upcoming leaders of tomorrow, if there is no youths in a country with their right state of mind how will they become the leaders of tomorrow?

Gambling ads should be restricted, its a normal thing to do, and about the web thing I think there will come a time where smartphones will have restrictions for the underage, where they can't search for some things using the web, and they will never come across some ads that can affect their thinking.

I have seen many up growing children going wild because they have a smartphone, a few of them turned into fraudsters and some turned into porn addicts, its because the power is in their hands.



Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Dewi Aries on March 20, 2024, 06:58:20 PM
It's still a bill so it's not yet a law. I have got a lot of friends that are gamblers and they always share their betting slip, wins and losses in their facebook accounts. Once this passes onto law then it will surely going to stop them from sharing the same content materials that have been done. A lot of them are agents of these casinos and that's why it will affect their hustle if it happens to become a law. But as of now, there's nothing to worry about it if it's not yet a whole law and not yet signed by the president.

Yeah, that's usually how people actually make money with gambling, through ads or social media, etc.

To make money actually gambling is a different story, and it's actually quite difficult. But it's fun, so many people do it as entertainment.

Yes that is the way I think it makes more sense to make money in gambling but not by gambling but by becoming a promotional agent of an online casino situation on an agreement where you make money from the number of people who enter the casino that you promote and you will get paid according to the agreement with the casino and also as a bonus usually you can also get a percentage of the fee from each losing gambler, and if I'm not mistaken you will get 30% and the casino gets 70% when the gamblers you invite to engage in the promoted casino lose.

True, the income from pure gambling winnings such as getting a jackpot is of course different from the income if you become an influncer or stremer where the income of a stremer or promotional agent is that they get money from the agreement with the casino along with bonuses when the gamblers they invite lose, and I think this income has a fairly consistent element when you want to continue to cooperate with the casino you want to promote but still for the problem of risk is always there which is where the government usually does not legalize gambling promotion especially if you are in a country that is anti-gambling, and income from pure gambling winnings is another thing.



Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: blockman on March 20, 2024, 10:24:16 PM
It's still a bill so it's not yet a law. I have got a lot of friends that are gamblers and they always share their betting slip, wins and losses in their facebook accounts. Once this passes onto law then it will surely going to stop them from sharing the same content materials that have been done. A lot of them are agents of these casinos and that's why it will affect their hustle if it happens to become a law. But as of now, there's nothing to worry about it if it's not yet a whole law and not yet signed by the president.
Yeah, that's usually how people actually make money with gambling, through ads or social media, etc.

To make money actually gambling is a different story, and it's actually quite difficult. But it's fun, so many people do it as entertainment.
I am seeing of them have fun while getting into the real thing. I know that there are some suspicious and just trying to attract more people sign under them or their agency for the casino that they promote locally. But sometimes, they're just for real that I know these people(agents) personally shares how much their players won but it's been a long time since I haven't seen them so it's probably part of the plan and marketing but, it's still allowed in our country.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Onyeeze on March 20, 2024, 10:34:41 PM
Talking about our wins to someone else is risky because you may get robbed by them, therefore this bill right there is good to give us a safety. Another good reason is that we can now be able to solo our winnings :D. This is only simple to follow and I don't think it was a big deal because after all, gambling is still very legal in your country.

Another thing that they restrict are online gambling ads, which again a good thing, as we know almost everyone know are accessing the web and we don't want our kids to get exposed to it. You must only be careful if you are a member of the forum and a part of a gambling campaign, as they may also target you.
gambling is not legal to most of the countries that we know especially some continent like Africa I don't think that they have legalized gambling to the extent that casino gambling with the have a center whereby someone can Gamble manually online via casino gambling because I know that majority of people who is into gambling and the Always emphasize on gambling do Lament directly based on the website of battery casino gambling not about the physical casino gambling center. So we all know that gambling is a risk and it is something that we know that the end product will be negative or positive based on your prediction and also luck opportunity that is beside you or behind you, that is why when people win in gambling we don't take it too much serious because it is a game of luck


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: passwordnow on March 20, 2024, 10:39:43 PM
Talking about our wins to someone else is risky because you may get robbed by them, therefore this bill right there is good to give us a safety. Another good reason is that we can now be able to solo our winnings :D. This is only simple to follow and I don't think it was a big deal because after all, gambling is still very legal in your country.
Well, this is one of the pros that people will be kept safe from sharing their winnings and those type of gamblers are in favor of this law. But most of them won't be as they're the owner of their own social medias and they're going to post whatever they want. Most laws aren't considerate at all but if it's for the good of most then it's a good resolution that shall be passed on to become a law. Yeah, it's simple to follow as many don't want to get penalized but many won't also be obliged to do so because they'll reason out that it is their own feed or wall to make.

Another thing that they restrict are online gambling ads, which again a good thing, as we know almost everyone know are accessing the web and we don't want our kids to get exposed to it. You must only be careful if you are a member of the forum and a part of a gambling campaign, as they may also target you.
I am in favor of this, when they are going to disable gambling ads. They're for sure going to lessen the viewership of it that might be seen by teens and younger ones. The protection is on them and that's one way to help them avoid going on with casinos. But people might see it as something odd when we're all gamblers here and gets into promotion of it but against to the gambling ads. Yes, we do because we're concerning to the welfare of the younger ones.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: nullama on March 21, 2024, 03:12:01 PM
~snip~
I am seeing of them have fun while getting into the real thing. I know that there are some suspicious and just trying to attract more people sign under them or their agency for the casino that they promote locally. But sometimes, they're just for real that I know these people(agents) personally shares how much their players won but it's been a long time since I haven't seen them so it's probably part of the plan and marketing but, it's still allowed in our country.

Yeah, that is a good thing that your country still allows it.

I think that personal responsibility should be the most important thing.

But yeah, many people are going to be exposed to a weird legal framework in their countries I guess...

It's the time to think about your membership I guess :)


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: blockman on March 21, 2024, 06:40:45 PM
~snip~
I am seeing of them have fun while getting into the real thing. I know that there are some suspicious and just trying to attract more people sign under them or their agency for the casino that they promote locally. But sometimes, they're just for real that I know these people(agents) personally shares how much their players won but it's been a long time since I haven't seen them so it's probably part of the plan and marketing but, it's still allowed in our country.

Yeah, that is a good thing that your country still allows it.

I think that personal responsibility should be the most important thing.

But yeah, many people are going to be exposed to a weird legal framework in their countries I guess...

It's the time to think about your membership I guess :)
I agree, personal responsibility is needed at most times and even if they pass this into law. We have to obey it but no matter how harsh the penalties and punishments will be, there will still be a lot of individuals that are going to violate and will continue in doing so.
But in social media times today, things are easy to get recorded when you're too vocal and active in posting your activities.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: wiss19 on March 22, 2024, 11:01:02 AM
That is a confusing and unfair law, to be honest.
If they don't want gambling to spread within the country or people shouldn't gamble, why is gambling legal in the first place? It is good if they do something to prevent gambling addiction but this is not the right way to do that because you can't deny citizens from posting anything related to gambling when gambling itself is legal in the country because that doesn't make any sense.

They should have rules such as a person below a certain age cannot post such things, but this doesn't sound right. I have never seen a country doing this if within the country gambling isn't illegal. I wonder how online casinos and other platforms advertise their services.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 23, 2024, 02:45:21 PM
What I think about all this is that things are very given to the fact that the eproans of certain countries do not see very well the action generated by casinos, they take it as something that they should not show it much, especially to protect the children, person who is somewhat susceptible to any of these effects of gambling.

It is not that it is prohibited, but they do not want the publicity of it, it is like something censored, for me some countries do these things only for protection measures, however the activity may require regulation that is not wrong, because sometimes the They take it as if it were a luxury activity, but in itself, depending on the government you are in, it can be seen as something bad for society where it is not prohibited but is restricted.

It is better to follow the rules of the country, because if they have a very tight control over them, it can cause problems for people if they are not fully complied with.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Onyeeze on March 23, 2024, 02:50:03 PM
That is a confusing and unfair law, to be honest.
If they don't want gambling to spread within the country or people shouldn't gamble, why is gambling legal in the first place? It is good if they do something to prevent gambling addiction but this is not the right way to do that because you can't deny citizens from posting anything related to gambling when gambling itself is legal in the country because that doesn't make any sense.

They should have rules such as a person below a certain age cannot post such things, but this doesn't sound right. I have never seen a country doing this if within the country gambling isn't illegal. I wonder how online casinos and other platforms advertise their services.
the thing is that each country have their own rules and regulation concerning gambling and if you fail to obey the rules and the regulation of that country you'll be having issues I know quite well that most of the gambling platform always pay tax to the country that legalized them but some country who does not accept gambling I'm the song gambling platforms operate there it is based on the gambling are doing their things on secret so that is one thing I will say so, nothing is that there's nothing a country can do someone who is addicted in gambling can skip gambling any day or any content time we have to know that that whoever that is addicted in gambling you cannot stop the person to gamble


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: killerfrost on March 23, 2024, 04:17:46 PM
A desire to curb the negative impacts of gambling without sacrificing government revenue.  Imagine a society seeking to protect its citizens from gambling addiction while still benefiting from potential tax income.

The point about a partial ban only affecting promotion by individuals is an interesting one.  This creates a loophole where government-sanctioned entities could still advertise, potentially creating a sense of unfairness.  Imagine a situation where some entities can promote gambling freely, while others cannot.

A complete ban on gambling activities, while seemingly effective, might not be realistic or practical.  A more nuanced approach, like stricter regulations on advertising content, consumer protection measures, and responsible gambling initiatives, could be a more effective solution.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: someone703 on March 23, 2024, 04:20:12 PM
It's a seemingly paradoxical situation: gambling is legal, but talking about it is restricted.  Imagine a society allowing the activity but discouraging open discussions about it. The reasoning behind the ban, is to curb the addictive nature of gambling.  Promotional narratives often focus on big wins, minimizing the risks and potential losses.  Imagine positive gambling stories influencing people who wouldn't normally gamble.

The concern about the "contagious" nature of gambling through word-of-mouth or online testimonials is insightful.  Hearing about someone's big win can spark interest in others, even those with no prior gambling experience.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: nullama on March 24, 2024, 04:03:00 AM
It's a seemingly paradoxical situation: gambling is legal, but talking about it is restricted.  Imagine a society allowing the activity but discouraging open discussions about it. The reasoning behind the ban, is to curb the addictive nature of gambling.  Promotional narratives often focus on big wins, minimizing the risks and potential losses.  Imagine positive gambling stories influencing people who wouldn't normally gamble.

The concern about the "contagious" nature of gambling through word-of-mouth or online testimonials is insightful.  Hearing about someone's big win can spark interest in others, even those with no prior gambling experience.

I don't think the ban is about discussing it. I think it is about displaying ads about it. There is a difference I think.

Mostly because if they start banning speech, then that's a bad thing really.

But they have banned certain types of advertisements like tobacco, alcohol, etc. I think it's not something new.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: shasan on March 24, 2024, 05:32:36 PM
I am very surprised to know about these laws. When there is no rule against the activity but there is a rule against publishing it. Actually, I have never heard of such a rule but came to know from your post. I think the majority of the people have not heard anything like this.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Juse14 on March 24, 2024, 06:05:03 PM
I personally just heard that there is a rule like this. A pretty nonsensical rule, very strange and confusing, because how could it not be? On the one hand, this country has legalized gambling, but on the other hand, the country has also issued policies to restrict its people from participating in promoting the casinos they visit. This is different from the previous policy regarding the legalization of gambling. And if the main reason is to prevent the negative impact of gambling, why doesn't the state openly issue a policy of prohibiting gambling and revoking all permits that have been granted. so that the country's attitude towards gambling activities is clear, if you want black, then black, if you want white, then white, not gray.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: salad daging on March 24, 2024, 07:18:21 PM
I just found out that there are laws like this - allowing gambling with outlets and then banning those who show off their winnings on social media or talk about it widely, it's a bit contradictory but I'm sure they designed this law for a reason.

Does this mean that only people who want to gamble can go to outlets if someone invites them to do so, will it be a crime or other penalty?

In particular, don't exhibit it online then it will be a consequence, really it's a bit confusing.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: alegotardo on March 24, 2024, 07:36:29 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

Although there are several betting houses, what is their advertising like?

I would say that this new law makes sense if its basis is to "discourage" new people from betting.
In other words... everyone sees that there is "another type of commerce" there, but no one talks about it, whether it is profitable, etc.

However, the moment people start talking about it anywhere in order to encourage other people to play too, especially young people, this can become a problem (which we all know about).

But, obviously, the government should also prohibit advertising from these establishments, whether on radio or television, as well as a banner or a simple pamphlet.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Saint-loup on March 24, 2024, 07:44:46 PM
Unfortunately in some countries, especially asian ones like the one in OP, gambling is a serious social concern, because it's in the habits, the culture and the traditions of people. While in western countries, it's way less socially accepted to play with money and to expose it publicly. So there are severe laws in those countries and governments reguarly take measures to fight against excesses. For example japanese people are known to like gambling and to be high rollers but the authorities take years to open the first casino there, because they are very concerned about the consequences on the population.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: darkangel11 on March 24, 2024, 07:46:54 PM
I am very surprised to know about these laws. When there is no rule against the activity but there is a rule against publishing it. Actually, I have never heard of such a rule but came to know from your post. I think the majority of the people have not heard anything like this.

You're right this is a bit too much. The way I see it they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They don't want people to scam newcomers by giving them a false sense of security in a casino, pretending that it's easy to win and as a result making those newbies lose money. Not allowing to post your wins at all it going too far because this is like telling people to shut up and not discuss anything. We are allowed to discuss politics, history, new technologies, but can't share our wins in a casino? Can we even say that we were in a casino? What's next, they won't allow you to say who you voted for or that you own a gun?
This is stupid and I've never seen a country actually ban free speech this way.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 24, 2024, 08:12:40 PM
Unfortunately in some countries, especially asian ones like the one in OP, gambling is a serious social concern, because it's in the habits, the culture and the traditions of people. While in western countries, it's way less socially accepted to play with money and to expose it publicly. So there are severe laws in those countries and governments reguarly take measures to fight against excesses. For example japanese people are known to like gambling and to be high rollers but the authorities take years to open the first casino there, because they are very concerned about the consequences on the population.
But still they do push through and make it legal but of course its would be normal that government would really be making everything would be in moderation on which it would really be just that a common approach or something i could say that it is really just that right that they would really be having that kind of control not to make things excessive at the same time they are really that making it legal.
Its not really that a bad approach it is really just that it would really be depending into their rules and regulations on how they would really be seeing gambling industry that plays out into their vicinity.

This is why as a citizen when it would really be just that a normal thing that you would do is to obey on which on the time that they would be prohibiting something then its normal
that you would really be that following if you dont like to face up some problems.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: agustina2 on March 24, 2024, 09:22:00 PM
You're right this is a bit too much. The way I see it they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They don't want people to scam newcomers by giving them a false sense of security in a casino, pretending that it's easy to win and as a result making those newbies lose money. Not allowing to post your wins at all it going too far because this is like telling people to shut up and not discuss anything. We are allowed to discuss politics, history, new technologies, but can't share our wins in a casino? Can we even say that we were in a casino? What's next, they won't allow you to say who you voted for or that you own a gun?
This is stupid and I've never seen a country actually ban free speech this way.

Don't post crappy things here if you don't understand everything. Did you even take the time to read the article? Or do you know what's the status of promoting online gambling in PH? The proposed bill is not stupid at all if you will not just read the title of this thread.

There are lots of online influencers already who promote gambling in PH. These streamers didn't even think twice but just for the content, they will promote several different gambling sites, even though some are not officially registered to the country's main gambling bureau which is PAGCOR. In case of a scam, these streamers will just hide for several weeks and then go back again streaming like nothing happened.

It's stupid to think that by posting your wins, you will go to jail. Please understand the proposed bill first before reacting.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Webetcoins on March 26, 2024, 05:45:22 PM
the thing is that each country have their own rules and regulation concerning gambling and if you fail to obey the rules and the regulation of that country you'll be having issues I know quite well that most of the gambling platform always pay tax to the country that legalized them but some country who does not accept gambling I'm the song gambling platforms operate there it is based on the gambling are doing their things on secret so that is one thing I will say so, nothing is that there's nothing a country can do someone who is addicted in gambling can skip gambling any day or any content time we have to know that that whoever that is addicted in gambling you cannot stop the person to gamble
It's a different thing if a country doesn't allow gambling at all and some platforms still operate within that jurisdiction, but if a country has legalized gambling, which means you are allowed to gamble and casinos are allowed to operate, why the hell would one go to jail if they have posted something or discussed gambling somewhere online? That doesn't sound like a normal law.

A normal law is that gambling is banned or illegal in a country and then anyone who is seen getting engaged with gambling or even posting or discussing it is doing a punishable offense, but somewhere where gambling is legal, people should be allowed to post or discuss about it anywhere they want.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Dewi Aries on March 26, 2024, 07:58:27 PM
the thing is that each country have their own rules and regulation concerning gambling and if you fail to obey the rules and the regulation of that country you'll be having issues I know quite well that most of the gambling platform always pay tax to the country that legalized them but some country who does not accept gambling I'm the song gambling platforms operate there it is based on the gambling are doing their things on secret so that is one thing I will say so, nothing is that there's nothing a country can do someone who is addicted in gambling can skip gambling any day or any content time we have to know that that whoever that is addicted in gambling you cannot stop the person to gamble
It's a different thing if a country doesn't allow gambling at all and some platforms still operate within that jurisdiction, but if a country has legalized gambling, which means you are allowed to gamble and casinos are allowed to operate, why the hell would one go to jail if they have posted something or discussed gambling somewhere online? That doesn't sound like a normal law.

A normal law is that gambling is banned or illegal in a country and then anyone who is seen getting engaged with gambling or even posting or discussing it is doing a punishable offense, but somewhere where gambling is legal, people should be allowed to post or discuss about it anywhere they want.

However it is the rules of the country that confuse me, as discussed that the government allows people to gamble in physical casinos but they prohibit people from posting anything that smells of gambling on social media or online, As you said above that when a country legalizes gambling activities, it means that the regulations will apply as a whole in the sense that people are free to gamble anywhere whether it is a physical casino or online and also they should be allowed to post something that smells of gambling on online media, because sometimes there like people who want to publicize the results of their gambling such as big wins as an act of telling others that they are very lucky.

As I said above this is a very confusing rule and I think some people here would agree, and the real law should be as you said which is that if gambling is banned then obviously anyone in the country should not be able to touch, post, publish or discuss gambling or anything gambling related, but if it is legalized then there should be freedom to do anything gambling related, and I think the conclusion is that the government is not strict enough in terms of implementing this rule which should be applied across the board to all places.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: South Park on March 26, 2024, 08:10:18 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
It does not seems that odd to me, it seems as if the government where you live is taking the same posture towards gambling that many other governments have towards tobacco, as in many countries tobacco itself is legal to be consumed by those that are considered to be legal adults but the advertising in itself is illegal, this is done as a way to prevent people from engaging in a hobby the politicians in turn consider to be harmful, and in fact I have always thought that gambling ads will eventually suffer this fate, so I do not find it surprising at all.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Zadicar on March 26, 2024, 08:15:20 PM
the thing is that each country have their own rules and regulation concerning gambling and if you fail to obey the rules and the regulation of that country you'll be having issues I know quite well that most of the gambling platform always pay tax to the country that legalized them but some country who does not accept gambling I'm the song gambling platforms operate there it is based on the gambling are doing their things on secret so that is one thing I will say so, nothing is that there's nothing a country can do someone who is addicted in gambling can skip gambling any day or any content time we have to know that that whoever that is addicted in gambling you cannot stop the person to gamble
It's a different thing if a country doesn't allow gambling at all and some platforms still operate within that jurisdiction, but if a country has legalized gambling, which means you are allowed to gamble and casinos are allowed to operate, why the hell would one go to jail if they have posted something or discussed gambling somewhere online? That doesn't sound like a normal law.

A normal law is that gambling is banned or illegal in a country and then anyone who is seen getting engaged with gambling or even posting or discussing it is doing a punishable offense, but somewhere where gambling is legal, people should be allowed to post or discuss about it anywhere they want.

However it is the rules of the country that confuse me, as discussed that the government allows people to gamble in physical casinos but they prohibit people from posting anything that smells of gambling on social media or online, As you said above that when a country legalizes gambling activities, it means that the regulations will apply as a whole in the sense that people are free to gamble anywhere whether it is a physical casino or online and also they should be allowed to post something that smells of gambling on online media, because sometimes there like people who want to publicize the results of their gambling such as big wins as an act of telling others that they are very lucky.

As I said above this is a very confusing rule and I think some people here would agree, and the real law should be as you said which is that if gambling is banned then obviously anyone in the country should not be able to touch, post, publish or discuss gambling or anything gambling related, but if it is legalized then there should be freedom to do anything gambling related, and I think the conclusion is that the government is not strict enough in terms of implementing this rule which should be applied across the board to all places.
Totally confusing on which its legal but not allowed to have those advertisement or posting up winnings? that would be surely be creating that kind of question in mind on why they do really
have those kind of rule or regulation on which its something no sense. How would those companies would really be doing their marketing on this method or kind of ruling?
Totally that hard to market on something having this kind of rules and regulations but well as a citizens or company owners then you wont really be able to do something
because we are really that following on whats mandated and there's nothing we can do about that.

If you dont like to go to jail then follow those rules or laws then you should really be just that fine.  :)


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: entertheabyss on March 26, 2024, 08:41:38 PM
It's a different thing if a country doesn't allow gambling at all and some platforms still operate within that jurisdiction, but if a country has legalized gambling, which means you are allowed to gamble and casinos are allowed to operate, why the hell would one go to jail if they have posted something or discussed gambling somewhere online? That doesn't sound like a normal law.

A normal law is that gambling is banned or illegal in a country and then anyone who is seen getting engaged with gambling or even posting or discussing it is doing a punishable offense, but somewhere where gambling is legal, people should be allowed to post or discuss about it anywhere they want.
Illegal or legal, ensure to earn in good proportion. Always keep to widely recognized strategies, which will lead to a solid standing in the system. We do what we believe is best for us, never doubt the process, and present the required data regarding the system. It's extremely dangerous, but we do what we believe is appropriate given the substantial earnings. Gambling is authorized in my country, and it has been one of the biggest source of the rebellion of the young people, while also ruling out the values set out by the lottery system.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: HelliumZ on March 26, 2024, 09:06:19 PM
The law of a country is passed considering the overall situation of that country, but I still find this matter strange where gambling has got parliamentary legalization, but after getting parliamentary legalization, if promotion or advertisement is made on gambling in that country, there is a provision of severe punishment or fine. Of course, there may be some issue in that country for this, or if gambling promotion in that country may be of great public welfareThis may have the opposite effect, perhaps because gambling advertising is strictly prohibited despite the government's parliamentary legalization of gambling. However, whether online or offline, gambling advertisements can have a negative impact on people, especially children who see these advertisements will create a strong curiosity about gambling and from this strong curiosity, they are later attracted to gambling and become a professional gambler.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Dewi Aries on March 27, 2024, 07:43:15 PM
However it is the rules of the country that confuse me, as discussed that the government allows people to gamble in physical casinos but they prohibit people from posting anything that smells of gambling on social media or online, As you said above that when a country legalizes gambling activities, it means that the regulations will apply as a whole in the sense that people are free to gamble anywhere whether it is a physical casino or online and also they should be allowed to post something that smells of gambling on online media, because sometimes there like people who want to publicize the results of their gambling such as big wins as an act of telling others that they are very lucky.

As I said above this is a very confusing rule and I think some people here would agree, and the real law should be as you said which is that if gambling is banned then obviously anyone in the country should not be able to touch, post, publish or discuss gambling or anything gambling related, but if it is legalized then there should be freedom to do anything gambling related, and I think the conclusion is that the government is not strict enough in terms of implementing this rule which should be applied across the board to all places.
Totally confusing on which its legal but not allowed to have those advertisement or posting up winnings? that would be surely be creating that kind of question in mind on why they do really
have those kind of rule or regulation on which its something no sense. How would those companies would really be doing their marketing on this method or kind of ruling?
Totally that hard to market on something having this kind of rules and regulations but well as a citizens or company owners then you wont really be able to do something
because we are really that following on whats mandated and there's nothing we can do about that.

If you dont like to go to jail then follow those rules or laws then you should really be just that fine.  :)

Yes this regulation triggers many questions especially from us people who just found out about the existence of such regulations in a country and I'm sure the people there will also initially feel strange when the first time a regulation like this is published, and yes I agree with you that another question is how casino companies can promote their casinos while now is the digital era where 90% of people are more interested in being or active in the world of social media and as we know that in most other countries social media is one of the biggest places for some businesses to showcase and promote their products including gambling promotions.

With this kind of regulation, it seems that the casino industry there only promotes physically or that means not touching the online world which I think the results will not be too optimal because most people in all countries are more active in online media, and yes it is true that in the end there will be nothing they can do there but follow the rules that are enforced and what I worry about is that there will most likely be individuals who accidentally and unknowingly publish something that smells of gambling on online media which makes them have to be punished.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: livingfree on March 27, 2024, 08:43:29 PM
Quite odd when gambling is legal and then promotion of it is not allowed. It varies from laws of a country towards gambling. There are countries that are strict and implementing heavily their rules about it.

Once a bill becomes a law then all you have to do is to obey it or face the consequences. That's what everyone have to remember with these policies.

If you don't like it then don't do it so that you'll not be in trouble when the law enforcement finds you doing it.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: harapan on March 27, 2024, 09:12:27 PM
I read the bill and this is the part I like the most. I think they have a point.
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The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities.

Padilla noted the links of gambling to addiction, criminal activities, and social issues that destroy the moral fiber of the nation.

Gambling addiction is a pandemic. It cripples the society and increase the mental health burden on any nation. If the youth, the young people who are supposed to be working and being productive for the nation are struggling with gambling addiction how can such a nation prosper and compete globally.

On the other hand, there also be a bill for the establishment of mental health institutions to rehabilitate gambling addicts and this services should be offered at a subsidized rate to enable people from low economic status be beneficiaries because it is mostly low income earners who are battling gambling addiction.

@robelneo Do you have any of such Health Bill in your country?

Yeah this is indeed a biased law and I don't see why a country will make such law's and expect a follow up on it.all this laws governing such country and are brutally causing or adding to a big mental blow of individuals.
So now, what's the essence of going to casinos to play and when you win,you can't rejoice or share it to others.
We'll I think is a way they try to minimize the population of individuals going into gambling and ending becoming big time addicts.probabky they are trying hard to erace the high rate of gambling in the society.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Fortify on March 27, 2024, 09:28:36 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.

You'll find these sort of logical inconsistencies all through life if you pay attention long enough. You have to wonder why some places in the world, even US states, you're not allowed to pump your own gas because it's "not safe", yet the rest of the world seems to do it millions of times every day without disaster. One key factor that politicians might be using in this scenario is - they have control over what goes on in the physical confines of their border, yet companies may have been taking advantage of that fact in the past and trying to avoid things like paying the correct taxes for the country. You'll tend to find these laws are focused towards businesses and will rarely penalize the individual players.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: angrybirdy on March 27, 2024, 09:39:23 PM
Quite odd when gambling is legal and then promotion of it is not allowed. It varies from laws of a country towards gambling. There are countries that are strict and implementing heavily their rules about it.

Once a bill becomes a law then all you have to do is to obey it or face the consequences. That's what everyone have to remember with these policies.

If you don't like it then don't do it so that you'll not be in trouble when the law enforcement finds you doing it.

the laws will really be strict in a country especially if they see its effect on the people, and it is necessary to follow it in order to respect the decision of the government. Why is the promotion of gambling prohibited when gambling is legal in the country? There are many possible reasons, but the first one here is the wrong way of promotion, which many minors see and possibly imitate, just to avoid that even young people may become addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Slow death on March 27, 2024, 11:26:42 PM
You're right this is a bit too much. The way I see it they're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. They don't want people to scam newcomers by giving them a false sense of security in a casino, pretending that it's easy to win and as a result making those newbies lose money. Not allowing to post your wins at all it going too far because this is like telling people to shut up and not discuss anything. We are allowed to discuss politics, history, new technologies, but can't share our wins in a casino? Can we even say that we were in a casino? What's next, they won't allow you to say who you voted for or that you own a gun?
This is stupid and I've never seen a country actually ban free speech this way.

Don't post crappy things here if you don't understand everything. Did you even take the time to read the article? Or do you know what's the status of promoting online gambling in PH? The proposed bill is not stupid at all if you will not just read the title of this thread.

There are lots of online influencers already who promote gambling in PH. These streamers didn't even think twice but just for the content, they will promote several different gambling sites, even though some are not officially registered to the country's main gambling bureau which is PAGCOR. In case of a scam, these streamers will just hide for several weeks and then go back again streaming like nothing happened.

It's stupid to think that by posting your wins, you will go to jail. Please understand the proposed bill first before reacting.

In my opinion, it seems to me that you are not understanding the seriousness of this bill that this senator is proposing. In short, the senator is proposing a law that aims to ban gambling, there is no better word than that: "ban", he just didn't use the word ban gambling because that would generate some political problem, but in This bill, if approved, will ban all gambling. Think about how any gambling company will function if advertising about gambling is prohibited? It is very clear that the bill bans gambling and this is also something that will deter any citizen of this country from participating in anything that involves gambling. Look at this:

The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities.

Padilla noted the links of gambling to addiction, criminal activities, and social issues that destroy the moral fiber of the nation.

Under Section 4 of SB 2602, the Department of Justice (DOJ) will be tasked to issue a disabling order to restrict or block access to gambling-related content with notice to the Department of Information and Communications and National Telecommunications Commission to monitor compliance.

It also tasks service providers to comply with the disabling order within 48 hours of DOJ's issuance of an order.

Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face sis months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.

If the violator has linked the online content to an online gambling site or has received any form of remuneration or commissions for publishing gambling-related online content, a maximum penalty of three years jail time and fine of P500,000 will be imposed.

If the offender is a juridical person, a maximum penalty of three years imprisonment and a fine of P500,000 will be imposed on the president, director, manager or managing partners, and or responsible officers. –VAL, GMA Integrated News


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source: https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/

In other words, with this bill, if it is approved (I don't know if it hasn't been approved yet), they will be banning all games of chance in that country and also all citizens of that country who are found participating in any signature campaign that involves games of chance. they will be punished. In my opinion it is clear that they are banning gambling, I don't know why they are not direct and do not say that gambling will be banned. In any case, it is up to politicians to make the laws, in this case it is the senators and deputies who are elected by the people. but it is also necessary to see who these senators are, if they are very honest people, because in part of this article this senator says that gambling destroys the morale of a nation, I suppose he is a very ethical and moral person. I don't know him so I'm not going to condemn him, but I think he's wrong when he says that gambling destroys society's morals


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Sithara007 on March 28, 2024, 03:21:20 AM
Here in India, as such gambling is illegal (unless it is in the form of government approved lotteries). And a lot of times the illegal gambling dens get raided by local police (that is unless they pay the bribes on time). But the government is completely helpless when it comes to online gambling. They can't take any action, because the web servers are situated abroad, in countries where gambling is legal. Law enforcement is always a step behind in terms of technological innovations. In the end, government ends up losing valuable tax revenue, and the citizens still participate in gambling through the online loophole.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: nullama on March 28, 2024, 02:26:09 PM
Here in India, as such gambling is illegal (unless it is in the form of government approved lotteries). And a lot of times the illegal gambling dens get raided by local police (that is unless they pay the bribes on time). But the government is completely helpless when it comes to online gambling. They can't take any action, because the web servers are situated abroad, in countries where gambling is legal. Law enforcement is always a step behind in terms of technological innovations. In the end, government ends up losing valuable tax revenue, and the citizens still participate in gambling through the online loophole.

Yeah, it really depends on the actual country that you live.

It is such a different world when you go somewhere else, because you assume everyone has the same rules, but the world doesn't work like that at all.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: livingfree on March 28, 2024, 09:46:09 PM
Quite odd when gambling is legal and then promotion of it is not allowed. It varies from laws of a country towards gambling. There are countries that are strict and implementing heavily their rules about it.

Once a bill becomes a law then all you have to do is to obey it or face the consequences. That's what everyone have to remember with these policies.

If you don't like it then don't do it so that you'll not be in trouble when the law enforcement finds you doing it.

the laws will really be strict in a country especially if they see its effect on the people, and it is necessary to follow it in order to respect the decision of the government. Why is the promotion of gambling prohibited when gambling is legal in the country? There are many possible reasons, but the first one here is the wrong way of promotion, which many minors see and possibly imitate, just to avoid that even young people may become addicted to gambling.
I'd agree if it's about the wrong way of promotion and the promoters have got the audience that are below the legal age then that should be fined.

But if it's about the traditional way of advertising and promotion then it's like any other service that they're promoting but they have no control over who's going to see their promotion.

So, the channel or promoter who promotes it will likely get some fine if they've got that range of audiences that are minors.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: South Park on April 01, 2024, 08:18:07 PM
the laws will really be strict in a country especially if they see its effect on the people, and it is necessary to follow it in order to respect the decision of the government. Why is the promotion of gambling prohibited when gambling is legal in the country? There are many possible reasons, but the first one here is the wrong way of promotion, which many minors see and possibly imitate, just to avoid that even young people may become addicted to gambling.

It may not seem as if it makes any sense, but as stated before there are some products which are legal but that are not allowed to advertise, what this means is that the government does not want to go through the trouble of actually banning something that people like and that realistically they have no way to really ban, however they are trying to reduce the rate at which people use that product, and an effective way to achieve this goal is to forbid those products to advertise.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Oasisman on April 01, 2024, 09:03:18 PM

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

Nah, I don't think it works that way. It say's in the article that anyone who post gambling related promotions will be charged. I don't think posting your winnings in the social media will get you charged of the bill. I think this law is created for those very abusive and greedy content creators who constantly advertise gambling related contents enticing people to do gambling. They even stage a betting session where they win good amount of money just to encourage their followers to do the same and use their referral code. Online gambling platform are seriously paying these greedy content creators to promote their website in the most aggressive way. The law is created to protect children from seeing this kind of content and to avoid adults from getting addicted.
What I think about this law is actually just fair. Even in the television, gambling advertisement are only limited.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Ever-young on April 01, 2024, 09:28:06 PM
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.

On the other side, they are attempting to keep people from talking about gambling. So, it appears that there is some discrepancy in their approach to this by drawing a clear line between "promoting" gambling and "discussing" it. For example, the government may enable people to share their gambling experiences, both positive and unpleasant. However, they may restrict persons from advertising or inciting gambling. This would allow individuals to discuss their experiences while simultaneously limiting the development of gambling addiction. Allow consumers to make educated judgments about whether or not to bet, without fully outlawing marketing.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: SamReomo on April 01, 2024, 10:45:11 PM
This would allow individuals to discuss their experiences while simultaneously limiting the development of gambling addiction.
I don't think that their intention is to stop gambling addiction because if they allow the citizens to gamble on casinos then they aren't giving much priority to addiction. I think their main motive behind promoting gambling is to stop majority of the citizens from knowing about gambling.

They could also do that because they might don't want young population, especially the students to take part in gambling activities. We all know that the students that become addicted to gambling could ruin their educational career and if majority of youngsters become addicts then such country can face hard times.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Ever-young on April 02, 2024, 06:51:46 PM
This would allow individuals to discuss their experiences while simultaneously limiting the development of gambling addiction.
I don't think that their intention is to stop gambling addiction because if they allow the citizens to gamble on casinos then they aren't giving much priority to addiction. I think their main motive behind promoting gambling is to stop majority of the citizens from knowing about gambling.

They could also do that because they might don't want young population, especially the students to take part in gambling activities. We all know that the students that become addicted to gambling could ruin their educational career and if majority of youngsters become addicts then such country can face hard times.
Yeah, government has several and different reasons why they'd decide to legalize gambling in the country. One of the major reasons would be to generate tax revenue or possibly for the purpose of promoting tourism. But this also has its disadvantages on the citizens,  gambling is so addictive and gambling addiction can have serious consequences on individuals, especially the inexperienced, naive and minors who do not really understand how gambling really works. So it's up to the government to also consider the possible negative effects of legalizing gambling and not just the potential benefits.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Lanatsa on April 02, 2024, 08:44:09 PM
This would allow individuals to discuss their experiences while simultaneously limiting the development of gambling addiction.
I don't think that their intention is to stop gambling addiction because if they allow the citizens to gamble on casinos then they aren't giving much priority to addiction. I think their main motive behind promoting gambling is to stop majority of the citizens from knowing about gambling.

They could also do that because they might don't want young population, especially the students to take part in gambling activities. We all know that the students that become addicted to gambling could ruin their educational career and if majority of youngsters become addicts then such country can face hard times.
Yeah, government has several and different reasons why they'd decide to legalize gambling in the country. One of the major reasons would be to generate tax revenue or possibly for the purpose of promoting tourism. But this also has its disadvantages on the citizens,  gambling is so addictive and gambling addiction can have serious consequences on individuals, especially the inexperienced, naive and minors who do not really understand how gambling really works. So it's up to the government to also consider the possible negative effects of legalizing gambling and not just the potential benefits.
When it comes to tax then gambling business would really be giving out that huge numbers but it would really be depending on how much revenue that they could make but we know that once a certain gambling casino would be that operating
and becomes big then we could really be able to tell that it is really that generating income or money on which it would really be just that understandable that government would really be giving out that kind of importance but well
each country does have their own jurisdiction when it comes to things on where they would neither be banning it or would be allowing it. In regarding about into the situation or condition stated on OP about banning some ads
or those winnings from gamblers or publicly that boasting it out on which it would really be putting you up in trouble is something that contradictory.

Somewhat it is really that obvious that the government is really that trying out to suppress possible gambling addiction into its citizens on which we know that once these winnings would be aired or published out
then it would really be that creating that kind of interest for people to play gambling and we do know that once addiction kicks in then it would really be imposing another potential problem on which
government would really be some heachache.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Ever-young on April 03, 2024, 09:00:39 AM
This would allow individuals to discuss their experiences while simultaneously limiting the development of gambling addiction.
I don't think that their intention is to stop gambling addiction because if they allow the citizens to gamble on casinos then they aren't giving much priority to addiction. I think their main motive behind promoting gambling is to stop majority of the citizens from knowing about gambling.

They could also do that because they might don't want young population, especially the students to take part in gambling activities. We all know that the students that become addicted to gambling could ruin their educational career and if majority of youngsters become addicts then such country can face hard times.
Yeah, government has several and different reasons why they'd decide to legalize gambling in the country. One of the major reasons would be to generate tax revenue or possibly for the purpose of promoting tourism. But this also has its disadvantages on the citizens,  gambling is so addictive and gambling addiction can have serious consequences on individuals, especially the inexperienced, naive and minors who do not really understand how gambling really works. So it's up to the government to also consider the possible negative effects of legalizing gambling and not just the potential benefits.
When it comes to tax then gambling business would really be giving out that huge numbers but it would really be depending on how much revenue that they could make but we know that once a certain gambling casino would be that operating
and becomes big then we could really be able to tell that it is really that generating income or money on which it would really be just that understandable that government would really be giving out that kind of importance but well
each country does have their own jurisdiction when it comes to things on where they would neither be banning it or would be allowing it. In regarding about into the situation or condition stated on OP about banning some ads
or those winnings from gamblers or publicly that boasting it out on which it would really be putting you up in trouble is something that contradictory.
It's true that each country do have their own laws and regulations concerning gambling. And yes it can be really contradictory and complicated at the same time when they try to actually publicize gambling wins and at the same time also trying to ban gambling ads. It's indeed a very complicated situation and a tricky balance for the government to strike, especially when it has to do with online gambling where the regulations are even more difficult to implement. Due to how tricky and complicated this situation can be, most countries have completely placed a ban on gambling while some other countries still believe they can regulate it by employing some measures. Like requiring licenses from online gambling sites or imposing of taxes on winnings.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: shasan on April 05, 2024, 10:51:51 PM
It's true that each country do have their own laws and regulations concerning gambling. And yes it can be really contradictory and complicated at the same time when they try to actually publicize gambling wins and at the same time also trying to ban gambling ads. It's indeed a very complicated situation and a tricky balance for the government to strike, especially when it has to do with online gambling where the regulations are even more difficult to implement. Due to how tricky and complicated this situation can be, most countries have completely placed a ban on gambling while some other countries still believe they can regulate it by employing some measures. Like requiring licenses from online gambling sites or imposing of taxes on winnings.
It is true that different countries has different laws and regulations but the rule of the country of the OP is too contradictory and I relay hate this type of law cause the country supports gambling but they do not support promoting it. If they can't support promoting then they should stop supporting gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: oktana on April 05, 2024, 10:58:54 PM
I think they are seeing the damage caused by the promotion of gambling content and hence the ban. It could be children who see these content, people losing too much money in gambling, or anything that is just not right. You can’t blame the government for the decision because I believe that they are doing what they see to be best. It’s good they didn’t ban it so people will get the message and it wouldn’t seem like it was an aggressive attack on gambling .


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Iroh on April 05, 2024, 11:15:06 PM
So now, what's the essence of going to casinos to play and when you win,you can't rejoice or share it to others.
We'll I think is a way they try to minimize the population of individuals going into gambling and ending becoming big time addicts.probabky they are trying hard to erace the high rate of gambling in the society.

You could always share you wins with friends and family. But promoting it online is what’s frowned upon. I do agree that the law is kinda strange as you could freely gamble but can’t openly talk about in and in a way, help promote it online.
Like you noted, they’re probably trying hard to curtail the increasing number of gamblers in the country and the rate of irresponsibility that comes with it. The rate of minors being exposed to gambling online is alarming and perhaps that’s why the law was proposed.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Bravut on April 06, 2024, 01:54:56 AM
That's s very sensitive step taken by the government of your country and isn't wierd. Gambling sites, centres can be present but that mean they can't take measures to curtail  the spread of  Gambling in the country of which such is one of the measures.

I think this would help reduce the number of citizens that would participate, I love this. Most persons would have gotten interest after seeing post of winnings and hearing enticing words and benefits during promotions which in reality isn't easy as said. This is also safeguarding underage 🔞 from been expose to gambling at an early stage.

I would have loved if my country also initiated this measure, though all country aren't the same and have different policies. You don't many that would have gotten involved and lose much, those leading to debt and financial instability and issues.
My concern is; That the casinos and gambling companies (sites) don't have influencers and promoters in your country? If they don't this would have great impact in reaching potential clients thus affecting there revenue generation in your country.
   
 


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: HelliumZ on April 06, 2024, 02:48:42 AM
I think they are seeing the damage caused by the promotion of gambling content and hence the ban. It could be children who see these content, people losing too much money in gambling, or anything that is just not right. You can’t blame the government for the decision because I believe that they are doing what they see to be best. It’s good they didn’t ban it so people will get the message and it wouldn’t seem like it was an aggressive attack on gambling .
When the government makes laws in a country, it makes laws keeping in mind the overall welfare of the people. In this case, the government has legalized the casino or gambling but made the promotion of gambling or casino illegal, maybe the government has a big plan in this regard. The government never wants the misfortune of a country but always wants the welfare of the people and may have made this rule. Although the rule may seem strange temporarily, if its long-term perspective is considered, there are certainly good reasons for the government to make this law. If people think this law is strange, I think that the people of that country will follow a discipline towards gambling and casino and this law seems to be effective enough for students and young generation.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Oilacris on April 06, 2024, 04:21:39 AM
I think they are seeing the damage caused by the promotion of gambling content and hence the ban. It could be children who see these content, people losing too much money in gambling, or anything that is just not right. You can’t blame the government for the decision because I believe that they are doing what they see to be best. It’s good they didn’t ban it so people will get the message and it wouldn’t seem like it was an aggressive attack on gambling .
When the government makes laws in a country, it makes laws keeping in mind the overall welfare of the people. In this case, the government has legalized the casino or gambling but made the promotion of gambling or casino illegal, maybe the government has a big plan in this regard. The government never wants the misfortune of a country but always wants the welfare of the people and may have made this rule. Although the rule may seem strange temporarily, if its long-term perspective is considered, there are certainly good reasons for the government to make this law. If people think this law is strange, I think that the people of that country will follow a discipline towards gambling and casino and this law seems to be effective enough for students and young generation.

Actually this is kind of a good step or decision because government is really that still minding about into their citizens sake when it comes to gambling addiction on which we know that this is really that something that will really be avoiding or lessening creating new addicts. It would really be that something that totally opposing on the overall intent on gambling revenue.
I dont see something anything wrong with this on which as long they could really be able to control too much gambling addiction without sacrificing their gambling industry revenue.
So it would really be that better that let them be on how they would really be handling out but if its for the sake of betterment of its citizens then it would really be just that fine.

As a citizen then you wont really be having any options or choices but to obey on whats mandated or what are the rules if you dont like to get into jail.
So it would really be just that a normal that you would be following the rules.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: adpinbr on April 06, 2024, 08:26:46 AM
I don’t really know how to contribute what is in my mind because the country seems to be confused on what they want. How would you legalize gambling and have a law that if anyone pulls gambling online it is a crime, but it is legal in the country, I don’t See sense. Or smartness in this process well I would see that it is just time they are waiting. Maybe they will also legalize it online or they have the reason that is the only thing is your country and they know what you are doing to protect you that is just it.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: EluguHcman on April 06, 2024, 09:48:42 AM
This is because of these content creators who abuse their followers with deceptive marketing that if they are going to join using his link they will likely make a lot of money, they even show how they won a lot of money from manipulative spins on their dashboard.

The bill should be specific on who gets penalized not just random people who just posted their winnings or announced the winning numbers.

The bill is good for curbing the deceptive promotion of gambling you can make a lot of money if you gamble, there should be provisions and specifics so you don't put innocent people in jail or fine them.

I don't think if there is something else attached to such situations other than what you have just said.
In such state of gambling dominance, they would be likely individuals whom had ruined their lives at the course of take gambling for source of income couples with the influences of the content creators who manipulates the minds of the people with false adverts that whoever follows their leads would stand the chances to win


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: shasan on April 06, 2024, 07:25:47 PM
I think they are seeing the damage caused by the promotion of gambling content and hence the ban. It could be children who see these content, people losing too much money in gambling, or anything that is just not right. You can’t blame the government for the decision because I believe that they are doing what they see to be best. It’s good they didn’t ban it so people will get the message and it wouldn’t seem like it was an aggressive attack on gambling .
I could not agree with you because if the government considered the promotion is bad for human specially for the children then why they are not banning the service of gambling. If they ban gambling then the large portion of people will be able to stay away from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: entertheabyss on April 07, 2024, 06:26:07 AM
I don’t really know how to contribute what is in my mind because the country seems to be confused on what they want. How would you legalize gambling and have a law that if anyone pulls gambling online it is a crime, but it is legal in the country, I don’t See sense. Or smartness in this process well I would see that it is just time they are waiting. Maybe they will also legalize it online or they have the reason that is the only thing is your country and they know what you are doing to protect you that is just it.
Smart gamblers should implement their solid strategies and ensure they're not caught by the government, that means they will stay safe. We should ready to face the decisive actions from the government and also aiming for the best, I know it's not ways to go against the contrary rules of the government but some rules are mainly for average class and they should tens to break them if they're fighting to be free to gamble. Funny how it sounds because this is just to entrapped gamblers that have hits lotto and become very promising in the system.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: oktana on April 07, 2024, 11:54:17 AM
I think they are seeing the damage caused by the promotion of gambling content and hence the ban. It could be children who see these content, people losing too much money in gambling, or anything that is just not right. You can’t blame the government for the decision because I believe that they are doing what they see to be best. It’s good they didn’t ban it so people will get the message and it wouldn’t seem like it was an aggressive attack on gambling .
I could not agree with you because if the government considered the promotion is bad for human specially for the children then why they are not banning the service of gambling. If they ban gambling then the large portion of people will be able to stay away from gambling.

Yes but I think that they don’t necessarily have to ban gambling yet. But I can guarantee that if they still notice that gambling is greatly affecting people in the country, they will definitely ban it. That is how the government operates. This step is to reduce whatever damage they have seen, so it’s probably not enough to put a ban yet.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Marvelockg on April 07, 2024, 12:03:15 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.

So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?

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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"

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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content (https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/topstories/nation/900468/senate-bill-seeks-ban-on-pro-gambling-online-content/story/)
isn't this strange?  How do you allow physical location and practice of gambling activities in your country while citizens can't talk about their gambling experience. That's a total hypocrisy that's even baseless and bent on bringing a chaotic situation.
Like, I'm allowed to gamble but can't talk about how my gambling went? Who does that?

Gambling laws should mostly centered on making regulations that prevent bad gambling habit and if the reason for making such laws is to prevent younger ones from getting involved in gambling at a tender age, then it's reasonable to some extent but anything outside of that is just not it.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: wiss19 on April 07, 2024, 06:36:52 PM
the laws will really be strict in a country especially if they see its effect on the people, and it is necessary to follow it in order to respect the decision of the government. Why is the promotion of gambling prohibited when gambling is legal in the country? There are many possible reasons, but the first one here is the wrong way of promotion, which many minors see and possibly imitate, just to avoid that even young people may become addicted to gambling.
It may not seem as if it makes any sense, but as stated before there are some products which are legal but that are not allowed to advertise, what this means is that the government does not want to go through the trouble of actually banning something that people like and that realistically they have no way to really ban, however they are trying to reduce the rate at which people use that product, and an effective way to achieve this goal is to forbid those products to advertise.
It's understandable for some products, such as some countries have restrictions on advertising products such as condoms, however, the use of the product or the production isn't illegal and it is sold without any problems but they just don't allow you to advertise the product for some reason. There are many things such as that, however, this is something completely different than gambling and casinos.

They might be doing this to prevent the youth from getting addicted to gambling or starting gambling, but there must be other ways of doing this. It shouldn't be allowed on TVs, and advertisements shouldn't be allowed online by platforms, but if an individual is discussing about it, that shouldn't be a problem.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: nullama on April 08, 2024, 07:00:13 AM
~snip~
I could not agree with you because if the government considered the promotion is bad for human specially for the children then why they are not banning the service of gambling. If they ban gambling then the large portion of people will be able to stay away from gambling.

Yeah, but the thing is that sometimes you need to be able to allow people to make their own choices.

The government can always make incentives one way or another to try to persuade the people, but I think it is in the end a choice every person has to make.

Gambling is also a very lucrative thing if you are providing the services.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Ever-young on April 08, 2024, 07:43:18 PM
It's true that each country do have their own laws and regulations concerning gambling. And yes it can be really contradictory and complicated at the same time when they try to actually publicize gambling wins and at the same time also trying to ban gambling ads. It's indeed a very complicated situation and a tricky balance for the government to strike, especially when it has to do with online gambling where the regulations are even more difficult to implement. Due to how tricky and complicated this situation can be, most countries have completely placed a ban on gambling while some other countries still believe they can regulate it by employing some measures. Like requiring licenses from online gambling sites or imposing of taxes on winnings.
It is true that different countries has different laws and regulations but the rule of the country of the OP is too contradictory and I relay hate this type of law cause the country supports gambling but they do not support promoting it. If they can't support promoting then they should stop supporting gambling.
Maybe, just maybe completely restricting or placing a bann on gambling may be beyond they judicial jurisdictions, according to their laws and since they can't exercise judicial power over gambling activities, they decided to use an alternative measure to make sure gambling doesn't spread like wildfire all over the counyand that's why they decided to attack promotion or advertising of gambling through social medias or other means, which could actually turn out to be quite an effective way to control the spreading of gambling, because the way people gets to know about gambling is through ads and that's how most People even end up getting the wrong idea about gambling and going into gambling with the usual misconception that gambling can suddenly make someone rich. So if this is the case, I don't think the government of that country has done anything wrong by restraining people from advertising gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Lanatsa on April 08, 2024, 07:59:10 PM
This would allow individuals to discuss their experiences while simultaneously limiting the development of gambling addiction.
I don't think that their intention is to stop gambling addiction because if they allow the citizens to gamble on casinos then they aren't giving much priority to addiction. I think their main motive behind promoting gambling is to stop majority of the citizens from knowing about gambling.

They could also do that because they might don't want young population, especially the students to take part in gambling activities. We all know that the students that become addicted to gambling could ruin their educational career and if majority of youngsters become addicts then such country can face hard times.
Yeah, government has several and different reasons why they'd decide to legalize gambling in the country. One of the major reasons would be to generate tax revenue or possibly for the purpose of promoting tourism. But this also has its disadvantages on the citizens,  gambling is so addictive and gambling addiction can have serious consequences on individuals, especially the inexperienced, naive and minors who do not really understand how gambling really works. So it's up to the government to also consider the possible negative effects of legalizing gambling and not just the potential benefits.
When it comes to tax then gambling business would really be giving out that huge numbers but it would really be depending on how much revenue that they could make but we know that once a certain gambling casino would be that operating
and becomes big then we could really be able to tell that it is really that generating income or money on which it would really be just that understandable that government would really be giving out that kind of importance but well
each country does have their own jurisdiction when it comes to things on where they would neither be banning it or would be allowing it. In regarding about into the situation or condition stated on OP about banning some ads
or those winnings from gamblers or publicly that boasting it out on which it would really be putting you up in trouble is something that contradictory.
It's true that each country do have their own laws and regulations concerning gambling. And yes it can be really contradictory and complicated at the same time when they try to actually publicize gambling wins and at the same time also trying to ban gambling ads. It's indeed a very complicated situation and a tricky balance for the government to strike, especially when it has to do with online gambling where the regulations are even more difficult to implement. Due to how tricky and complicated this situation can be, most countries have completely placed a ban on gambling while some other countries still believe they can regulate it by employing some measures. Like requiring licenses from online gambling sites or imposing of taxes on winnings.
Yes, it would be something still be thankful with those gamblers who do reside into those countries which do still allow on playing gambling compared into those places which had totally banned out gambling.
Each country does have their own approach when it comes to gambling on where there are ones who are really that banned it completely and there are ones who are been allowed. It would really be just that a matter of rules and regulations of course and as a citizen then just like on what i have said that you wont really be having any options but to go along on what been stated or been that put up.

Good thing that government is really that still minding about their citizens condition or in having that concern about trying to lessen out when it comes to possible addiction.
This is why it isnt really that a bad idea for them to have that kind of approach on which they wont really be that trying out to allow those kind of possible exposure of wins
because it can actually trigger out that kind of addiction problems when people would really be trying out to play.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: South Park on April 08, 2024, 09:44:31 PM
the laws will really be strict in a country especially if they see its effect on the people, and it is necessary to follow it in order to respect the decision of the government. Why is the promotion of gambling prohibited when gambling is legal in the country? There are many possible reasons, but the first one here is the wrong way of promotion, which many minors see and possibly imitate, just to avoid that even young people may become addicted to gambling.
It may not seem as if it makes any sense, but as stated before there are some products which are legal but that are not allowed to advertise, what this means is that the government does not want to go through the trouble of actually banning something that people like and that realistically they have no way to really ban, however they are trying to reduce the rate at which people use that product, and an effective way to achieve this goal is to forbid those products to advertise.
It's understandable for some products, such as some countries have restrictions on advertising products such as condoms, however, the use of the product or the production isn't illegal and it is sold without any problems but they just don't allow you to advertise the product for some reason. There are many things such as that, however, this is something completely different than gambling and casinos.

They might be doing this to prevent the youth from getting addicted to gambling or starting gambling, but there must be other ways of doing this. It shouldn't be allowed on TVs, and advertisements shouldn't be allowed online by platforms, but if an individual is discussing about it, that shouldn't be a problem.
I agree on that, but politicians very often create laws that are too overbearing and that the police have no way to enforce, after all what could they possibly do to achieve this, listen to every single conversation online and offline that people have with each other and arrest anyone that mentions gambling in any way? This is impossible, and even if it was, it would lead to a backlash against the politicians that passed such laws as the privacy of millions will be infringed just to implement this law.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Miles2006 on April 08, 2024, 10:44:11 PM
This is kinda weird cause limiting the act on social platform is surprising, I have never heard of such information and this is my first time hearing such law. Despite the law I believe there's something behind the law or are they trying to protect their reputation or what will trigger such decision. Online gambling is just the same as gambling casino so what's the point. Although some countries can be so sensitive when it comes to the public in terms of other stuffs, this is just normal cause you don't except a country to showcase everything out to the public that's why you see people with little knowledge about other countries but I still don't understand this law concerning gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: oktana on April 08, 2024, 11:25:09 PM
This is kinda weird cause limiting the act on social platform is surprising, I have never heard of such information and this is my first time hearing such law. Despite the law I believe there's something behind the law or are they trying to protect their reputation or what will trigger such decision. Online gambling is just the same as gambling casino so what's the point. Although some countries can be so sensitive when it comes to the public in terms of other stuffs, this is just normal cause you don't except a country to showcase everything out to the public that's why you see people with little knowledge about other countries but I still don't understand this law concerning gambling.

It isn’t about online gambling but about publicizing any gambling content online. And from what I understand, especially if the content you’re posting is capable of luring someone to gamble. So even if it’s a casino at a store and you didn’t gamble online, you should still not post about it (your winnings, etc)


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: TopT3ns on April 08, 2024, 11:55:08 PM
I agree on that, but politicians very often create laws that are too overbearing and that the police have no way to enforce, after all what could they possibly do to achieve this, listen to every single conversation online and offline that people have with each other and arrest anyone that mentions gambling in any way? This is impossible, and even if it was, it would lead to a backlash against the politicians that passed such laws as the privacy of millions will be infringed just to implement this law.
The police will only act when they know what is right and what is wrong, but when looking at gambling sites, this depends on existing government policy. There are some places that provide gambling permits and there are also those that strictly prohibit gambling places, no matter how small, whether it be through online or offline. The government must be wiser in making laws and must go through discussions first, perhaps with gambling developers, to see whether they agree with the laws that will be created or not.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: shasan on April 12, 2024, 03:16:48 PM
The police will only act when they know what is right and what is wrong, but when looking at gambling sites, this depends on existing government policy. There are some places that provide gambling permits and there are also those that strictly prohibit gambling places, no matter how small, whether it be through online or offline. The government must be wiser in making laws and must go through discussions first, perhaps with gambling developers, to see whether they agree with the laws that will be created or not.
   
I do not know the rules of your country but in my country police can't go against the rule of the government. So, if the advertisement is illegal then police can take action based on the government rule.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 12, 2024, 06:59:04 PM
The truth is that it doesn't seem strange to me, I would call it a dictatorship, because in the country where I am, casinos are not Prohibited , but they put in place a law that if you speak badly of the current government they can put you in prison, so if they are capable of doing something like that, that seems so stupid to me, why can't they do something that has to do with money ? It is not within the normal parameters, but I believe that we as people deserve freedom and that freedom must coexist at all times, whether to say what you want on the networks, so if Gambling is prohibited in a country, it is an activity It is Dangerous to do some Marketing, however Anonymity and protecting Yourself well with a good security Protocol by making publications where the IP cannot be detected is Possible , sometimes irreverence is not bad in situations where those rights are skewed.



Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Mr.suevie on April 12, 2024, 07:10:18 PM
This is kinda weird cause limiting the act on social platform is surprising, I have never heard of such information and this is my first time hearing such law. Despite the law I believe there's something behind the law or are they trying to protect their reputation or what will trigger such decision. Online gambling is just the same as gambling casino so what's the point. Although some countries can be so sensitive when it comes to the public in terms of other stuffs, this is just normal cause you don't except a country to showcase everything out to the public that's why you see people with little knowledge about other countries but I still don't understand this law concerning gambling.
Yeah, I think weird is exactly what you can call this but I normally see this kind of behavior among some Muslim and asian countries and the perfect example would be Korea, they are very limited to what is happening and social media at large and I believe there are even result of people being arrested because of such habits of even posting their things online not to talk of gambling related content, I guess your jail sentence will be very certain.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: South Park on April 15, 2024, 08:43:37 PM
This is kinda weird cause limiting the act on social platform is surprising, I have never heard of such information and this is my first time hearing such law. Despite the law I believe there's something behind the law or are they trying to protect their reputation or what will trigger such decision. Online gambling is just the same as gambling casino so what's the point. Although some countries can be so sensitive when it comes to the public in terms of other stuffs, this is just normal cause you don't except a country to showcase everything out to the public that's why you see people with little knowledge about other countries but I still don't understand this law concerning gambling.
Even if you think that a law can be unjust or it does not make sense, just make sure to follow it if you live there, as there is no point on getting in trouble with the police just because you could not help yourself and you posted something on your social media accounts which can be interpreted as a way to promote online gambling to others, now this kind of self-censorship can be difficult at first, as most people are not used to think before posting something online, but it has to be done.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: TheUltraElite on May 02, 2024, 03:07:46 PM
Yeah, I think weird is exactly what you can call this but I normally see this kind of behavior among some Muslim and asian countries and the perfect example would be Korea, they are very limited to what is happening and social media at large and I believe there are even result of people being arrested because of such habits of even posting their things online not to talk of gambling related content, I guess your jail sentence will be very certain.
Their objective might be control of online spreading of gambling and gambling related affiliate content out there. Most of the religious sects will abhor gambling and it might be related to those in such countries as well.

After all people will still gamble even after governments put restrictions on them by some or the other bypass methods. So just let these bills come and go, they dont really make an impact on the people. Online gambling is so easy and accessible to common people even minors today.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: danadc on May 02, 2024, 09:05:38 PM
This is kinda weird cause limiting the act on social platform is surprising, I have never heard of such information and this is my first time hearing such law. Despite the law I believe there's something behind the law or are they trying to protect their reputation or what will trigger such decision. Online gambling is just the same as gambling casino so what's the point. Although some countries can be so sensitive when it comes to the public in terms of other stuffs, this is just normal cause you don't except a country to showcase everything out to the public that's why you see people with little knowledge about other countries but I still don't understand this law concerning gambling.
Even if you think that a law can be unjust or it does not make sense, just make sure to follow it if you live there, as there is no point on getting in trouble with the police just because you could not help yourself and you posted something on your social media accounts which can be interpreted as a way to promote online gambling to others, now this kind of self-censorship can be difficult at first, as most people are not used to think before posting something online, but it has to be done.

The truth is very strange, that can happen in a country where there is a lot of corruption, in the country where I lived things are not like that, they are not so strict, but they are not super corrupt, in fact there is a problem of this style if the person talks to the official and gives him money, everything remains there, at that point unfortunately is the country where he lived, claor is not very far from all the aises, who in one way or another can do this type of business below from the table, now in the country I am in the socsas are more legal, but the system itself has meant that here also the need and the low salary make them start to be a little more corrupt.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: swogerino on May 02, 2024, 09:28:05 PM
Yeah, I think weird is exactly what you can call this but I normally see this kind of behavior among some Muslim and asian countries and the perfect example would be Korea, they are very limited to what is happening and social media at large and I believe there are even result of people being arrested because of such habits of even posting their things online not to talk of gambling related content, I guess your jail sentence will be very certain.
Their objective might be control of online spreading of gambling and gambling related affiliate content out there. Most of the religious sects will abhor gambling and it might be related to those in such countries as well.

After all people will still gamble even after governments put restrictions on them by some or the other bypass methods. So just let these bills come and go, they dont really make an impact on the people. Online gambling is so easy and accessible to common people even minors today.

I think it is like that,the government does not want people to spread gambling to other people but to keep it to themselves,they want to not increase the number of people who gamble and keep those who do in control in order to keep society in line.Most of gamblers let's speak the truth are "degenerates" degen for short as they call each other in the chats of well known casinos so trying to keep them in place is somewhat a good idea,it will absolutely not work as people who love gambling will continue to gamble while others will follow,the government is just telling everyone to shut up and to not promote it,as for yourselves do what you fucking care.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: Mia Chloe on May 02, 2024, 10:33:26 PM
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.
Of course the law definitely seems weird. At first sight the image that would likely strike a person's mind is that of which the country is making up that law just to make sure that they are efficiently taxing regular and traditional legal casinos. The law seems to be posing some kind of weird restriction especially for gamblers who are either familiar with online Gambling or prefer it to the traditional Gambling. Therefore it would be kindof difficult for online Gambling lovers to figure out new casinos while still trying to make sure that the casino isn't a scam one.
This is part of the reason why the type of Gambling activity gamblers in a particular location or region tend to prefer is partly dependent on the laws of that region. It won't be surprising to notice that people on such a location would be more familiar with traditional casino Gambling than online Gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail?
Post by: SamReomo on May 03, 2024, 07:23:27 PM
It won't be surprising to notice that people on such a location would be more familiar with traditional casino Gambling than online Gambling.
I agree, in such regions gamblers will most probably try to go to traditional physical casinos instead of doing much on the online casinos.

The rules and law often cause fear in the minds of the gamblers and that's why they might try their best to avoid online casinos so they won't get any trouble from government.