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March 19, 2024, 02:52:53 AM
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Hi everyone, I've been following and reading this forum for some time now and I've decided to make my first contribution here lol. I really appreciate how welcoming and kind you guys all are to strangers. I rarely see that in a forum, which made me want to be more involved here Smiley

I've long been a crypto enthusiast, and I also enjoy betting as a simple pleasure

However, I've grown quite bored of all the repetitive games and stale options out there. It seems like every gambling site is the same website/interface, just with a different domain name.  

My partner and I are skilled software developers by profession, so we've decided to challenge ourselves by making our own betting game.

We want to start by innovating on top of a simple game that already exists before we go all in on creating our own game from scratch (which would take months)

We've decided to start with Plinko since we're familiar with the game mechanics. I've always loved the comfort of a Lo-Fi aesthetic, so I think it would be cool to create something from that angle while being a fun game that is exclusive to everyone on the Bitcointalk forum Cool

As far as licensing goes, I take this stuff seriously. I've always been a by-the-books type of person. I know there are a lot of bandits out there, but I don't joke about this kind of stuff. I don't think anyone willing to bend the rules is someone worth respecting, especially when money is involved, no matter how small of an amount.

If someone doesn't care about the law, what makes you think they care about you and your money?

For that reason, we believe we should do KYC from the start. We're open to suggestions, however, the alternative is doing KYC at the end (during withdrawals) which would be even worse. Imagine winning a game only to have your money held up by KYC? Yuck. That's how you lose reputation overnight. People will feel like they are being scammed or caught by surprise.

I would rather be upfront. If this was my world, no KYC would exist, but I don't want to take the shortcut, only to force KYC later on just like these other Casinos have done.

KYC only has to be done once and then never again. I'm hoping that users will be willing to do it, simply because this is a unique arcade/club that we have built as a community, and cannot be replicated anywhere else.

This is a fun project that we want to build with you guys, on this forum, so i'll leave this thread open and be extremely active in getting opinions, feedback, and suggestions on what to add to this Plinko game to make it more enjoyable.

Some proposed features
  • All revenue generated from this game is distributed among active players for the first few months
  • Live active users count so you know who else is playing at the same time
  • Solana, Bitcoin, Ethereum deposit options. No fiat for now
  • Lo-fi cafe/arcade-type aesthetic

I'm hoping to launch this sometime in the next few days. Any suggestions are appreciated!! I look forward to building this together.
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March 19, 2024, 03:01:12 AM
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I understand that KYC is important, but believe me, many have already got upset by seeing this that you will make KYC mandatory. Now in this case they will go to popular casinos where Plinko is already there, rather than giving personal details to a new casino. I am not criticising you, but this is the ugly truth. Moreover if possible add PvP mode in the Plinko game. We gamblers really like to compete with other gamblers. So yes it will be really fun if you add this. Good luck with your project OP.

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I understand that KYC is important, but believe me, many have already got upset by seeing this that you will make KYC mandatory. Now in this case they will go to popular casinos where Plinko is already there, rather than giving personal details to a new casino.

What do you say? There are almost no casinos left without KYC. To me now comes to mind one that offers Plinko but if you win and order a withdrawal of your money you will be processed and you may spend a month waiting, so I personally would not deposit a satoshi in that one. I don't think that KYC nowadays is a determining factor for people to decide not to bet in that casino, really.

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March 19, 2024, 05:35:39 AM
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It would be nice if the user can change the colour of the game mechanics.. like the colour of the balls or the play area or to add a Pinball game type background.

The reason for this is the boring nature of this game... just watching balls fall through pegs, gets very boring after a few hours.  Roll Eyes

You can also introduce a "Gold ball" feature that will indicate that it will hit a large multiplier, if and when it drops. This will add some extra excitement when people see it.

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March 19, 2024, 07:03:14 AM
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Great write-up op! I am interested in your project because Plinko is one of my favourite games out there, but the whole mandatory KYC stuff for a new site like yours is a major turn-off if I am being honest with you.

If you ever consider making your site KYC free for a certain time-period at the very least, it would definitely attract plenty of gamblers within this forum.

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I would like to see some features for you to consider:
1. Replay feature especially for a bet where players hit big multipliers. This feature is good especially if there is also a feature to share it on chat room so other users can watch how the ball bounced and hit the big multiplier.
2. Speed adjustment; most plinko games usually comes with normal and instant speed only. Normal can be so slow or it can be too fast while instant is something where we cant see the ball at all, so if there is an option to adjust the ball speed will be nice.
3. Attractive sound for the animation, make few different sound based on which multiplier the ball landed/dropped.
4. Animation when the ball hit the biggest multiplier in played plinko board so it will give great experience for players.


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I would like to see some features for you to consider:
1. Replay feature especially for a bet where players hit big multipliers. This feature is good especially if there is also a feature to share it on chat room so other users can watch how the ball bounced and hit the big multiplier.
2. Speed adjustment; most plinko games usually comes with normal and instant speed only. Normal can be so slow or it can be too fast while instant is something where we cant see the ball at all, so if there is an option to adjust the ball speed will be nice.
3. Attractive sound for the animation, make few different sound based on which multiplier the ball landed/dropped.
4. Animation when the ball hit the biggest multiplier in played plinko board so it will give great experience for players.



That's really an amazing suggestion. Nothing is more enjoyable than the sound of coins going Kaching when you win.
He plans to share the revenue for the first few months and we don't know what will happen next.

It better be using LN for BTC since the fees are going to be a pain in the ass. If there are active users in the casino that are also in the forum, its good to hire them to market the project and share the revenue with them.

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March 19, 2024, 08:11:39 PM
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I love the idea that you want to make this exclusive for Bitcointalk users but that kuc part is not sounding good.

Trust me, a lot of users are against the idea of giving out their personal information to a service and they would prefer to use one where they won't have to undergo KYC and risk having their personal information exposed to people that might use it for illicit activity.

If I may suggest, I'd like if you could keep track of users' IP addresses or activities and only enforce kuc when you notice strange activities (although, those who are willing to undergo KYC can still do the ones who are not ready should allow to use enjoy your site without undergoing it, as long as they are not doing anything wrong. )

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Great write-up op! I am interested in your project because Plinko is one of my favourite games out there, but the whole mandatory KYC stuff for a new site like yours is a major turn-off if I am being honest with you.

If you ever consider making your site KYC free for a certain time-period at the very least, it would definitely attract plenty of gamblers within this forum.

If they are just starting, I don't think they can enforce KYC right away. It would take time to implement such. Do take note that launching a casino may be easier but the maintenance is hard. They should have good bankroll to begin with. If they can't afford to pay winnings, how the players can be enticed to play on their site? Though the enthusiasm is there but they need to think the long-term sustenance of the site.

And also, most newly-launched sites don't require KYC because they don't have the gambling license yet. I can understand being strict with kyc if their license is already in place. But this is still in the prerogative of the team or the owners. They can be lenient in the beginning to attract potential patrons.

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One think I like is seeing developers trying to get suggestions from their prospective customers which shows some
Level of respect which i admire.
I’ve also read some comments of people complaining about KYC but that’s just the bitter truth, as anyone who is expecting to play on a reputable platform that is registered should be ready to submit KYC at some trigger point and personally, I prefer a casino being sincere and straight forward with their KYC terms and I would prefer KYC during registration so one would be aware of what they intend getting involved with rather than been trapped during withdrawals and making everything difficult for the gambler.

Most times, I think we gamblers have to take things easy with developers and also try to understand that, they’re doing their best to balance the whole situation between the legal demands as well as their customers demands which isn’t always an easy task.

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Most times, I think we gamblers have to take things easy with developers and also try to understand that, they’re doing their best to balance the whole situation between the legal demands as well as their customers demands which isn’t always an easy task.
What you stated makes complete sense, but that logic applies to popular sites that already have a great reputation in the crypto world(Not new sites like what op proposed that are just starting out).

I would prefer if they didn't enforce KYC initially and enforced it later on while being honest and transparent about the changes.

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Great write-up op! I am interested in your project because Plinko is one of my favourite games out there, but the whole mandatory KYC stuff for a new site like yours is a major turn-off if I am being honest with you.

If you ever consider making your site KYC free for a certain time-period at the very least, it would definitely attract plenty of gamblers within this forum.
Its no doubt that many gamblers still hate passing KYC and I don't blame them, but for me, the KYC requirement is never going to be one of reasons why I will walk away from any online casinos.

I even expect a new or old casino to request for KYC because the gambling business is always going to be a centralized thing, you should not run an online casino without the proper centralized approvals, If your online casino becomes successful and popular, you will end up in court and you will be a fine big time for running an illegal online casino because any unregistered online casino is illegal.

Every online casino that I like to use is already satisfying, when security and good customer service are top priorities, you will surely be successful with the online casino business, many people don't realize that running an online casino business is not so easy like they see, I don't blame them.

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As a regular gambler, What I really like to a casino is the VIP rewards and the bonuses that doesn’t have a wagering requirements.

If you can combine Winz.io lucky spin and Blackjack.fun rakeback which is 20% based and 70% on rush hour then you can have a solid casino that is very generous. Most of the casino nowadays have a very low rakeback despite they get most of their profit when the players totally bust which means this rakeback is just minimal for them since it’s just a small percentage on players bet.
Doesnt have a wager requirement? There's no such business that they would really be doing up such thing on which they would really be that setting those requirements knowing that gamblers could luckily be able to win up that big with those free amounts. Who the hell would really be giving out free money without having no terms? They are the ones who do make their business potentially be bankrupt.

This is why it doesnt really have any sense for them to apply on having no rules. No business would really be doing that. Generous? There's no way that they would be. They can set out those good % when it comes to bonuses but you could really expect that terms and conditions or wagering requirements is something that would be hard to achieved. House do always win at the end and
those bonuses or whatever benefits or perks you could get is something that a trap i must say. lol

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I wonder what's the update on OP's casino. I checked his profile and saw he was online earlier but hasn't responded on any of the replies to this thread, gave any update about the casino they are planning on creating or when it will be launched.


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Hello gLanaKA, to do KYC on your site first you need a gambling license, and those aren't cheap at all. And the KYC process should be secure enough to ensure your customers that their data is secure.

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Doesnt have a wager requirement? There's no such business that they would really be doing up such thing on which they would really be that setting those requirements knowing that gamblers could luckily be able to win up that big with those free amounts. Who the hell would really be giving out free money without having no terms?
You are right. If you are going to ask fir something then ask something reasonable. You can't except from a casino, which is a for-profit business, to give out bonuses, which is free money, without them setting some requirements such as the wagering requirement to minimize the risk of going bankrupt.

to do KYC on your site first you need a gambling license, and those aren't cheap at all. And the KYC process should be secure enough to ensure your customers that their data is secure.
As far as I know, Curaçao license are not that expensive, at least not for someone who is intending to run a casino.

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I think your proposed features have the potential to set your Plinko game apart from the rest. I find it generous to distribute revenue among active players, which can build a loyal user base. It's also good that you can offer multiple crypto deposit options for added flexibility. Once you have established Plinko, I hope you can add other simple arcade-style games that players can unlock or switch between. Another thing that I think players will like is the lo-fi aesthetic, as this style is very popular right now and can create a relaxing and enjoyable atmosphere. It would be great to have a feature for customization such as avatars and board designs, where themes like a beach theme for example, since it's summer here now, and at night maybe a galaxy theme as if in outer space, with background music chosen accordingly.

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April 06, 2024, 06:25:42 AM
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I understand that KYC is important, but believe me, many have already got upset by seeing this that you will make KYC mandatory. Now in this case they will go to popular casinos where Plinko is already there, rather than giving personal details to a new casino. I am not criticising you, but this is the ugly truth. Moreover if possible add PvP mode in the Plinko game. We gamblers like to compete with other gamblers. So yes it will be really fun if you add this. Good luck with your project OP.

Let them be upset, it's sincerity.

As if KYC can be dodged like a bullet, many new online casinos started as a non-KYC casinos only to end up asking for KYC and this have made many people to hate them, calling them liars.

I still respect this person for saying the truth right from the beginning instead of deceiving us to gather a lot of crowd only to pull the stood from their feet later on.

I know plinko, its a good one, great graphics, superb soundtracks and complex gameplay, but easy to play and also essy to lose money, but my point is how longer can a online casino stays non-KYC? Many have already disappoint gamblers, it does feel like they can't all escape from KYC mandatory.

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April 06, 2024, 06:39:11 AM
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I think your proposed features have the potential to set your Plinko game apart from the rest. I find it generous to distribute revenue among active players, which can build a loyal user base. It's also good that you can offer multiple crypto deposit options for added flexibility. Once you have established Plinko, I hope you can add other simple arcade-style games that players can unlock or switch between. Another thing that I think players will like is the lo-fi aesthetic, as this style is very popular right now and can create a relaxing and enjoyable atmosphere. It would be great to have a feature for customization such as avatars and board designs, where themes like a beach theme for example, since it's summer here now, and at night maybe a galaxy theme as if in outer space, with background music chosen accordingly.
When it comes to plinko then it be better that he should be getting some ideas into these ff; sites or platforms.

1. Bitvest
2. Stake
3. Crypto.games

These are the sites or platforms on which i have been able to experience on playing plinko. Experience is great but
still a game which everything relies on luck and this is something that you should really be wary about.
It is really that still not that an assurance about success even if you do put up every community feedbacks and suggestions that been mentioned out.
Unique games is something that we are really that looking into this saturated market when it comes to game types and offerings.
We do really need something unique and really give out that kind of thrill.
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