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March 23, 2024, 10:24:09 PM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
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March 23, 2024, 11:19:26 PM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

I mean, one does not need to be a historian on the topic of soccer/football to be aware in the past there have been literal massive fighting in stadiums over the defeat of a certain game. You know, the usual scenario of people jumping over the fences and and running towards the opposite team, to beat them up.
It is the result of a long standing toxic rivalry, mixed with anger and alcohol at the moment the match is taking place.
I am yet to see a family ruined by the passion for a sport, but I don't have doubts it could have happened before.

Perhaps, that is why sometimes is important to stop and recall those sports are supposed to be entertainment for most of us who are not seeking to make a living out of it.
I don't know about you, but those kind of people who follow a team and are willing to fight over it or mistreat others because of it, are not actual good fans.

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March 23, 2024, 11:36:08 PM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

Too much love for something can actually cause those kind of conflict. For example if you really love your club and you also love football wholeheartedly, you will always turn up for your club anytime they are to play a match and if your brother and riends are also a fan of the opposite team and both of you guys have the same energy for football, little misunderstanding during the match can cause a conflict and it really depends on how you guys handle your emotions. I hear crazy things about people that really love football, such a some people who will go hungry if their clubs losses in a match.

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March 27, 2024, 05:22:12 PM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

I believe it is critical to recollect that at the conclusion of the day, it is only a game. It's intended to be entertaining and pleasurable, and it's not worth getting very excited over. It's also crucial to remember that the other side is made up of actual people, and we ought to honour them even if we disagree with them. It is also critical to establish environments in which people may engage in peaceful and courteous debates about football without resorting to insults or personal assaults. Finally, it's critical to emphasize the good sides of football, such as the sense of community and belonging it may foster.

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March 27, 2024, 05:56:29 PM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

The truth is that everybody has different perspective, likes and dislike, so even without in football people always disagree with each others and when they believe on something anybody that object them becomes there rivals, so is not even only in football but also in some other things, but in terms of football that's what makes it fun because if everybody focus on one club I doubt if there would be fun, however in most cases were you could see that kind of argument or rather fight is mostly on the sport viewing centre because so many people with different narrative about a particular team are all there so there is bound to be argument.

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March 29, 2024, 05:40:22 AM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
I don't think we should blame football or any sport or even anything in the world for that because it's the people having that kind of mindset who should be blamed for this division and stuff. A person who is sane and wise enough would never create a negative environment around them just because of a game of sports no matter how much they love a team or a player that is involved in that game.

There is nothing wrong with rivalry and having different teams and preferences within a family, but taking that too seriously and dragging it to the fight of having actual and real fights within the family is something foolish in my opinion, and people who do this are literally out of their minds.

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March 29, 2024, 06:24:12 AM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
I have seen many times where men and boys sit and argue out football supporting their various clubs and teams, but it does not commonly result in deep grudges or a fight. I have asked some men before why there is always so much argument whenever a football game is on, the answer I got was that it was a part of the fun of the game. If you find two people fighting unashamedly because of a football match, they are both immature people. Football has created more unity among different people than dispute.


Football has outweighed other sports and games and it has created a room where people find themselves making certain decisions and steps to show their love for such games is inevitable.
Over time now when two teams play there may be an argument between them as they support their teams to win the game but aside this there won't be any form or room to regrets or fight against each other because this is what they love.and like some fans would say it's the Passion.

I had a friend whenever we go to watch football matches he would argue and quarrel so well that it would seem like he wants to have a fight with such person but he wouldn't,and then when I adj him why are you doing these,his response will be it's for the passion nothing else.heblove football so much that he can do anything for it but not to go on a fight.so I think the community it has created has put people into oneness.

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March 29, 2024, 08:21:08 AM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

Too much love for something can actually cause those kind of conflict. For example if you really love your club and you also love football wholeheartedly, you will always turn up for your club anytime they are to play a match and if your brother and riends are also a fan of the opposite team and both of you guys have the same energy for football, little misunderstanding during the match can cause a conflict and it really depends on how you guys handle your emotions. I hear crazy things about people that really love football, such a some people who will go hungry if their clubs losses in a match.
I disagree with you that this is about the love for football but extremism and it's very bad. We should always support whatever we want to support with wisdom, it is wrong of anyone to support provocatively, which is what I see here. Football is a sport, but it is unfortunate the way some people are taking it too far as if it is a war. This is to the extent that people would kill for the sake of football, how pathetic is that? Well, in my understanding based on the psychological view, it is beyond the football itself but the nature of the person in question. For instance, someone might provoke you naturally or your action provokes people which has nothing to do with football, these are purely emotional things and it depends on how we can handle ourselves.

But in football, such provocation may also happen because the people watching it are not mature enough and yield to emotion and anger. They view it beyond the mere sport it is, and the issues may now escalate from the football issues to the personal issues where their true character shows. Such character is in them even before football, it was only let out through it, just like any other thing that can bring the ugliness out of them. I hope you understand, the football was just that thing at that time, it could be other things in another circumstance. I still believe these people are crazy and childish and that is why I try as much as possible to move far from those who call themselves adults but are still with children's brains.

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March 29, 2024, 09:36:04 AM
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Someone who loves a team will gather a number of people who support the same team and then establish an association, initially small but as time goes by it gets bigger because more and more people join and then usually they will make their identity known to the public. I think at first they were purely establishing an association to support their team, but along the way there was something that made them tense. For example, rivalry between 2 teams will eventually lead to rivalry between the 2 teams' supporters, something that will definitely happen.
In fact, I see that it is not only supporters of two different teams who can have tension, those who support the same team will also have tension just because they are from different communities. This is usually caused by many factors, and usually trivial things, and it is not uncommon for initially personal problems to become community problems because they will assume solidarity.
However, this has now subsided, unlike in recent years when tensions between supporters still occurred very often.

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March 29, 2024, 02:57:25 PM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

Too much love for something can actually cause those kind of conflict. For example if you really love your club and you also love football wholeheartedly, you will always turn up for your club anytime they are to play a match and if your brother and riends are also a fan of the opposite team and both of you guys have the same energy for football, little misunderstanding during the match can cause a conflict and it really depends on how you guys handle your emotions. I hear crazy things about people that really love football, such a some people who will go hungry if their clubs losses in a match.
I disagree with you that this is about the love for football but extremism and it's very bad. We should always support whatever we want to support with wisdom, it is wrong of anyone to support provocatively, which is what I see here. Football is a sport, but it is unfortunate the way some people are taking it too far as if it is a war. This is to the extent that people would kill for the sake of football, how pathetic is that? Well, in my understanding based on the psychological view, it is beyond the football itself but the nature of the person in question. For instance, someone might provoke you naturally or your action provokes people which has nothing to do with football, these are purely emotional things and it depends on how we can handle ourselves.

But in football, such provocation may also happen because the people watching it are not mature enough and yield to emotion and anger. They view it beyond the mere sport it is, and the issues may now escalate from the football issues to the personal issues where their true character shows. Such character is in them even before football, it was only let out through it, just like any other thing that can bring the ugliness out of them. I hope you understand, the football was just that thing at that time, it could be other things in another circumstance. I still believe these people are crazy and childish and that is why I try as much as possible to move far from those who call themselves adults but are still with children's brains.
This hooligan stuff isnt really about football. Its about messed-up people who think being a fan means being a maniac. Im the best at knowing this, trust me, I see it all the time. Football's awesome - skill, tactics, the thrill of it all. Thats what its about. But these extremists, they've lost it.

You're right, its not about loving a team, its deeper than that. These are folks whose whole identity depends on this, who simply dont get boundaries. Honestly, its sad, way sad. This isnt just football - this happens anywhere people get obsessed. And yeah, its straight-up childish. Adults losing their minds, worse than kids fighting over a toy.

Though, us, we're the grown-ups, the ones with brains. We gotta be better, show how to be a REAL fan without going crazy. Its about smarts, being strategic in how we support. No insults, no picking fights. At the end of the day, its a GAME. Seriously. If one match makes you so nuts that you hurt someone, thats your problem to fix. Passion's good, but be smart about it. Love the game, not the craziness.

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April 01, 2024, 03:45:44 PM
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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

Too much love for something can actually cause those kind of conflict. For example if you really love your club and you also love football wholeheartedly, you will always turn up for your club anytime they are to play a match and if your brother and riends are also a fan of the opposite team and both of you guys have the same energy for football, little misunderstanding during the match can cause a conflict and it really depends on how you guys handle your emotions. I hear crazy things about people that really love football, such a some people who will go hungry if their clubs losses in a match.
I disagree with you that this is about the love for football but extremism and it's very bad. We should always support whatever we want to support with wisdom, it is wrong of anyone to support provocatively, which is what I see here. Football is a sport, but it is unfortunate the way some people are taking it too far as if it is a war. This is to the extent that people would kill for the sake of football, how pathetic is that? Well, in my understanding based on the psychological view, it is beyond the football itself but the nature of the person in question. For instance, someone might provoke you naturally or your action provokes people which has nothing to do with football, these are purely emotional things and it depends on how we can handle ourselves.

But in football, such provocation may also happen because the people watching it are not mature enough and yield to emotion and anger. They view it beyond the mere sport it is, and the issues may now escalate from the football issues to the personal issues where their true character shows. Such character is in them even before football, it was only let out through it, just like any other thing that can bring the ugliness out of them. I hope you understand, the football was just that thing at that time, it could be other things in another circumstance. I still believe these people are crazy and childish and that is why I try as much as possible to move far from those who call themselves adults but are still with children's brains.
This hooligan stuff isnt really about football. Its about messed-up people who think being a fan means being a maniac. Im the best at knowing this, trust me, I see it all the time. Football's awesome - skill, tactics, the thrill of it all. Thats what its about. But these extremists, they've lost it.

You're right, its not about loving a team, its deeper than that. These are folks whose whole identity depends on this, who simply dont get boundaries. Honestly, its sad, way sad. This isnt just football - this happens anywhere people get obsessed. And yeah, its straight-up childish. Adults losing their minds, worse than kids fighting over a toy.

Though, us, we're the grown-ups, the ones with brains. We gotta be better, show how to be a REAL fan without going crazy. Its about smarts, being strategic in how we support. No insults, no picking fights. At the end of the day, its a GAME. Seriously. If one match makes you so nuts that you hurt someone, thats your problem to fix. Passion's good, but be smart about it. Love the game, not the craziness.

Sometimes things can turn out very differently when people Confuse Passion with the Desire of a human Being to turn to Violence I have seen a lot About Hooligans, and although I don't Agree , in all Countries there is this type of fans who for me go much further and go too far, I do not agree with any type of violence, and things should be Focused on the Development of the Sport, it is good that there is rivalry but not such vandalism, then considering all this type of This is the reason why some South American countries cannot enter the stadium with alcoholic drinks because the Majority lose Control and the effects of alcohol are very Devastating in some people, there are some who erase everything from their brains from the things they do, and Although they are guilty, Alcohol is one of the Factors that Mixes and causes Tragedies Above all.


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 #92

Someone who loves a team will gather a number of people who support the same team and then establish an association, initially small but as time goes by it gets bigger because more and more people join and then usually they will make their identity known to the public. I think at first they were purely establishing an association to support their team, but along the way there was something that made them tense. For example, rivalry between 2 teams will eventually lead to rivalry between the 2 teams' supporters, something that will definitely happen.
In fact, I see that it is not only supporters of two different teams who can have tension, those who support the same team will also have tension just because they are from different communities. This is usually caused by many factors, and usually trivial things, and it is not uncommon for initially personal problems to become community problems because they will assume solidarity.
However, this has now subsided, unlike in recent years when tensions between supporters still occurred very often.
Even in a small group of people, if you would really be tending to make a poll or categorization on particular things then you could already make a different group out of it.  Cheesy. How much more if we do speak about
about a famous sport that everyone been aware of. For sure it would really be making out that different groups on which someone who would really be supporting a particular thing on which it would really be just that normal on this case. There's no bad about such division because this would really be added up on the thrill but the only problem on this is on that on the time that discussions and arguments becomes too much then it do really ends up on conflicts on which it isnt really just that good looking.

There would really be no interesting thing or thrill whenever there would be no fans that do make out those kind of arguments on whose better in between the two.  Smiley

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I once went to the stadium and a person died during the clashes between police and "hooligans".
the sense of sadness that such an event left in my life are difficult to explain in words.
I have just decided to not follow football after this event. And I don't regret the choice.

Unfortunately, behind football (and the fans) there are big money interests which as such influence not only the game on the pitch but also the game at the gambling level Roll Eyes likewise players that are blackmailed etc etc....

it is not in the interest of the clubs to create these situations, but a whole series of "group of people" find personal advantages and try to make the most of them.

So sorry can't really understand how you felt experiencing such an event as a witness, I've never seen anyone due in front if me before. Your choice is good cause I see all this fanhood as just a bunch of means to create tension in matches cause there are supporters for each side, yeah lots of guys behind the scenes making money from all these stuff happening.

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May 24, 2024, 06:19:43 PM
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I once went to the stadium and a person died during the clashes between police and "hooligans".
the sense of sadness that such an event left in my life are difficult to explain in words.
I have just decided to not follow football after this event. And I don't regret the choice.

Unfortunately, behind football (and the fans) there are big money interests which as such influence not only the game on the pitch but also the game at the gambling level Roll Eyes likewise players that are blackmailed etc etc....

it is not in the interest of the clubs to create these situations, but a whole series of "group of people" find personal advantages and try to make the most of them.

So sorry can't really understand how you felt experiencing such an event as a witness, I've never seen anyone due in front if me before. Your choice is good cause I see all this fanhood as just a bunch of means to create tension in matches cause there are supporters for each side, yeah lots of guys behind the scenes making money from all these stuff happening.

Wow, the truth is that I have not had that experience of seeing someone die due to a game or confrontations of that style, it is a hard experience, although sport has nothing to do with it, those are just acts of vandalism, and it is something that It should never happen, in my country they prohibited drinking alcohol or beer inside the stadium because people became very crazy and uncontrolled causing tragedies, also one day they burned a bus inside the opposing team's stadium, and these are acts of vandalism, something that would never happen It should happen, so when faced with these things you have to gain experience so that things like this do not happen again, but in the end this is not the fault of a few, who are the ones who damage the entire beautiful spectacle that is football. .

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May 24, 2024, 06:35:43 PM
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I once went to the stadium and a person died during the clashes between police and "hooligans".
the sense of sadness that such an event left in my life are difficult to explain in words.
I have just decided to not follow football after this event. And I don't regret the choice.

Unfortunately, behind football (and the fans) there are big money interests which as such influence not only the game on the pitch but also the game at the gambling level Roll Eyes likewise players that are blackmailed etc etc....

it is not in the interest of the clubs to create these situations, but a whole series of "group of people" find personal advantages and try to make the most of them.

So sorry can't really understand how you felt experiencing such an event as a witness, I've never seen anyone due in front if me before. Your choice is good cause I see all this fanhood as just a bunch of means to create tension in matches cause there are supporters for each side, yeah lots of guys behind the scenes making money from all these stuff happening.

Wow, the truth is that I have not had that experience of seeing someone die due to a game or confrontations of that style, it is a hard experience, although sport has nothing to do with it, those are just acts of vandalism, and it is something that It should never happen, in my country they prohibited drinking alcohol or beer inside the stadium because people became very crazy and uncontrolled causing tragedies, also one day they burned a bus inside the opposing team's stadium, and these are acts of vandalism, something that would never happen It should happen, so when faced with these things you have to gain experience so that things like this do not happen again, but in the end this is not the fault of a few, who are the ones who damage the entire beautiful spectacle that is football. .

Actually there's no exemption for this one whether it would be happening on a match game on the stadium or would really be that happening on a concert on which these kind of trouble or incidents could really happen due to the fact that there a people who cant really be able to control up themselves specially into their emotions. We do know that there are ones who are really that too sensitive on which for example about watching a match and its understandable that there would really be that those people who would really be that making that some initial arguments about whose better among the two until they would really be having those conflicts on which it could possibly causes up for some trouble. If its not been that controlled then it would really be ending up with this kind of incident on which it would be understandable that neither individual or groups would be starting up some trouble.

This is why it wont really be shocking that there would really be that security checks before you could really be able to get in the venue on which it would be understandable on which this is for the safety of everyone.
Avoiding potential troubles which it could cause up specially on prohibiting people to have some drinks of liqour or any kind. We do know on what troubles or issues like this could anytime spark out.
This is why some people doesnt really like on going into those public or crowded place just because they dont really like with this kind of possible happenings on which it could put out
harm to them or simply in speaking about security.

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May 30, 2024, 12:13:43 AM
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This is why some people doesnt really like on going into those public or crowded place just because they dont really like with this kind of possible happenings on which it could put out
harm to them or simply in speaking about security.
You are Absolutely right in that sense, many people who are very fans Prefer to watch Football matches in bars or in places that can be more controlled, Usually Smaller , I have friends who are from large families and one of the reasons why no Not going to the stadium to see the local team is why, they think that some fans are very violent, they like to look for problems and prefer to avoid unwanted events, in the stadium there are many Controls , but the Person who is bad is Hurt by a simple hand, they are capable of doing harm , there are Always ways, that's why the only places in the Stadium that are controlled, but Obviously the people with a lot of money go there are the VIPs , there they can drink alcohol and everything.

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The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.
Normally not only football but anything game or gambling be it football bet or any Oder form of betting. What I really discovered is that people always creat tension in what ever that they love so much. One thing about life is that apart from food and shelter what also put smile to people faces is fun. And the fun comes in different dimensions which football sums it all. Though there are other games with fun which people always put their whole mind in it, but generally football gambling is the greatest of all since it is for fun and also for making money.

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The football world is one world of unity,the love in football is no where,and it's only in Football that there is no tribalism, everybody walks in unity as long as the person is a fan of your club,you won't care about his religion or his tribe,you just have to love him.Football is another thing that brings so much joy to people's heart,and no body who is a fan of a club,and his club is doing well at the moment,who won't be constantly happy.Football is that thing that when you think about,you always find this inner joy in your heart,and always feel connected to the team and the players because of the love you have for them.Football brings unity to the world.

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It's ridiculous you can think like that.

So if there's tension between fans from two different teams, the sport should be blamed for creating such tension.

It's similar like people get addicted in gambling, instead of blaming the gambler, you choose to blame gambling.

Those people who don't have brain to think should get educated first, if a country is full of uneducated citizen, I can't imagine how disastrous the country is.

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May 30, 2024, 09:52:11 AM
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Recently I've been reading about the tension and division that football can put amongst people making it look as tho they are part of a different community or even county, like when two famous clubs are playing, and members of the same family or friends would be against each other forgetting other bonds they once had and going all out to support their club or née family they belong to.

The point is why does football create such a tension and division that can even result to fight and dispute sometimes.

People are at some point are driven by passion based on what they believe is the best and will apparently belittle others that doesn't have same believe as their believe will tend to be the best among other's and will or can never stand much of the criticizing by the other fashion for protection of their interest, such attributes doesn't only occur in football debates but also happened in other areas of life generally, for instance family members that plays fraternity that find them self in different fraternity equally do the same just as that if football clubs and at most times different religions can as well be found in this act, all the same it just all about trying to protect one interest over the others.

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