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March 26, 2024, 09:39:49 PM
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And not only the wallet address, but checking the minimum deposit amount is also very important, so that you don't sent a money that will be considered as a donation and not deposited into your exchange or casino account.
however I have actually witnessed a situation were a friend was trying to make a deposit but forgetting to check the minimum deposit that is allowed and after making the deposit he stayed for a very long time waiting for the deposit to arrive but could not see it, so he had to visit there support system for complain that was when they told him the reason why his deposit couldn't arrive because he did not meet the minimum deposit,
That's true, and one of the areas I have noticed to have this high minimum deposit are all these new-generation casinos (i.e casinos who got launched with the last 3yrs), with a minimum deposit most times of over $20, of which if by mistake you happen to send any coin below the minimum deposit, its authentically considered as a donation and irreversible. Hence, the need for taking note of those very important, because one annoying thing I have noticed is that most casinos don't always write/indicate minimum deposit at areas that are easily visible to gamblers, but could be found in casino terms and conditions, hence, the need for reading it's terms and conditions is always very important.

Yeah that's just the problem most people normally face because just like you said is very unfortunate that most of those platform doesn't put there information easily visible and at the end most people will become a victim because it is believed that every platform that has a certain minimum deposit amount normally have the information boldly written on the deposit area so since most people are use to seeing it that way so in a case they did not see it that way they would just send any amount they feel is okay for them without knowing the actual minimum deposit, although like you already mentioned those things are mostly common on those new Casinos that got launched new because they miss out adding some features while trying to kick start the platform immediately. Although the truth is that even if is boldly written on the deposit area most people will always fall a victim because most people doesn't have the habits of reading which can also lead to making a mistake.
Honestly, its not something that you would really be able to see in most gambling sites on which most of them are really having that fixed deposit addresses and this is something that new that
they would really be having that kind of changing address like on exchange sites. I dont know on whats their set up on this one if it tends that they would be making out some changes then it would
really be just that right that they will be making out some announcement in relation to that because not all would really be that a fan on seeing those changes specially in regarding on this one.
You would really be tending to make it fix and wouldnt be checking those addresses. Good for you if the site will really be making out such refund but well its the ethical way on doing
so because its their address and everything could really be traced up.

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March 27, 2024, 06:04:06 AM
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Good for you if the site will really be making out such refund but well its the ethical way on doing
so because its their address and everything could really be traced up.
Yes, that is if such casino who will reverse an already sent fund below their minimum deposit do actually exist, because I doubt if any casino today will want to do that, because if in such a scenerio, casinos would have asked gambler to send an additional fund so as to enable the old fund reach it's minimum deposit, before it could be credited, it would have been a better idea, but I'm sure non will want to do such, but will rather tend to capitalize on the mistake of the gambler, while confiscating such fund. Hence, we should always strive at each moment never to be a victim of sending a lost BTC, but rather learn from the mistake of others, and always ensure to look at the minimum deposit of any exchange, casino or any crypto related online platforms before sending any coin, so as to be on the safer side.

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March 27, 2024, 06:20:52 AM
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But the problem I see here mate is what if the change happens almost minute or second apart from the sending of the funds? I mean the timing of the sending is almost same from the changing of wallet address then this will still occur like what you have experience here.

That would be the responsibility of the casino who change the address without any prior announcement. If such a thing happen, the fault is on the casino side obviously and the casino should resolve it by crediting the deposit to the account. There can be one other case where players are allowed to change (renew) the deposit address anytime they wish. In this case if the one who is changing address is the player, of course the player is the one who is responsible for it but I still believe that reputable casino will still try to help.
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March 27, 2024, 11:12:40 AM
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The lesson here is always check the wallet address before you deposit no matter how long do you use the same address. Most importantly don’t use casino wallet address to receive funds that has a delay such as loan money and campaign payments since there’s a chance that they will update their wallet address without prior notice. Keep safe and have fun.
Do not be I rush or in a hurry. And do not get used to the address you forget to double check.
What I do is to always check the first five figures and the last five figures. Then I cross check with the on the gambling website.
I know the consequences of failure to do so. It's is like double losses. Double losses because you don't know if you will win after you stake your bet.
Honestly, a online casino should not chnage their address because they are always permanent and if there is any reason for this sudden change they must notify their customers through email, changing the address without customers' consent is wrong.

Still it is for our own good if we can always check the address so that we won't be a victim of such an experience, just to avoid such thing it doesn't take much of our time to check the address before making any transactions.

I have used some online casinos and this have never happened before but this is something that's very common with crypto exchanges, and they do notify customers through email addresses for change of addresses, the last time I witnessed this was with Binance exchange, I did got their notification via email.
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March 27, 2024, 12:58:16 PM
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This happened to me but not with a gambling address. It happened with our local exchange application. I used to just deposit at the same address that I have been using for a long time and then suddenly I was surprised when I checked my deposit address was changed. I don't know if they e-mailed me with an update on that change because there are just too many e-mails and I don't want to read everything.
Still, I was lucky that I received the balance that I deposited and after that, I updated my own deposit address so I won't make a mistake anymore.
They said that my old address is still live, so even if I use it I will still receive the amount deposited. Still, I just want to be careful so that no problem will happen in the future.
You are lucky that they gave you back the deposit because other gambling sites won't even care about it. And yes, I agree we must at least check it monthly or maybe every two months.

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March 27, 2024, 02:21:02 PM
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This is not new warning but I think people might need to be reminded about this after experiencing this personally just now. I recently made a loan using a casino wallet address, I check the wallet address if it’s the same before I ask the loan and I confirmed that it was the same.

The problem comes when the loan is already sent while my casino wallet address update right after the loan amount sent. Take note that I’m using same wallet address since I play to this casino for about 3 years and they just update my wallet address some time after I post my loan request here.

To make the story short. The balance is not credited but after a lengthy discussion with the support and after sending proof that my old wallet address is still the same when I made the deposit(loan) then they recover my funds out of good will.

The lesson here is always check the wallet address before you deposit no matter how long do you use the same address. Most importantly don’t use casino wallet address to receive funds that has a delay such as loan money and campaign payments since there’s a chance that they will update their wallet address without prior notice. Keep safe and have fun.


This must have happened to the majority of people in the crypto space today, I was also a victim too, but the exchange team helped me to solve the problem, but its rare that such happen on a gambling website, because all the online casinos that I have used always have one permanent BTC and other crypto addresses, they have never changed their address before.

I guess many people who are into gambling hardly fall for this because its not common at all, if a casino decide to swap their customers account address they must issue warning to all their users to avoid loss of fund, because there will surely be some gamblers that will keep the old address for faster transaction from one address to another.

Anyway, I guess we need to be cautious from now on, I will stop the habit of not copying the address from the gambling platform every time I want to deposit some BTC into the account, thanks for sharing.
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March 27, 2024, 02:49:52 PM
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This happened to me but not with a gambling address. It happened with our local exchange application. I used to just deposit at the same address that I have been using for a long time and then suddenly I was surprised when I checked my deposit address was changed. I don't know if they e-mailed me with an update on that change because there are just too many e-mails and I don't want to read everything.
Still, I was lucky that I received the balance that I deposited and after that, I updated my own deposit address so I won't make a mistake anymore.
They said that my old address is still live, so even if I use it I will still receive the amount deposited. Still, I just want to be careful so that no problem will happen in the future.
You are lucky that they gave you back the deposit because other gambling sites won't even care about it. And yes, I agree we must at least check it monthly or maybe every two months.

A similar story happened to me when I used one of the cryptocurrency exchangers. But everything happened differently: in general, I decided to withdraw part of my cryptocurrency, it was ethereum, like, I don't remember exactly, well, it doesn't matter. And so the money came to my card. I was very surprised, because there were exactly 1,000 more dollars than should have come. It turned out that the operator accidentally clicked on one and later began to ask for a refund. I returned it, because they knew my last name and banking details.

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March 27, 2024, 03:06:18 PM
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that's true, sometimes casinos like to change their wallet addresses and that's why players need to double check their wallet addresses and make sure whether the wallet can still be used or not. and not only that, players also need to check the network supported by the casino and don't make the mistake of depositing money on a different network. because there are several cases where players mistakenly deposit their money on different networks, and in the end the casino is not responsible for these user errors.
Many gamblers have learned their lesson from that aspect from casino to always check the address of their wallets to know if the address has be changed or not before proceed their deposit so that they will not experience what some gamblers has experienced from casino because, they didn't check the address very well before depositing their money at the moment.

Any mistakes you make by depositing the money to a wrong address, you will not hodl any casino responsible because, every casino owner use to give out their rules and regulations to gamblers to go through so that they will not make such a mistakes that will make others gamblers to think that they are scamming them.

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March 27, 2024, 03:38:20 PM
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But the problem I see here mate is what if the change happens almost minute or second apart from the sending of the funds? I mean the timing of the sending is almost same from the changing of wallet address then this will still occur like what you have experience here.

That would be the responsibility of the casino who change the address without any prior announcement. If such a thing happen, the fault is on the casino side obviously and the casino should resolve it by crediting the deposit to the account. There can be one other case where players are allowed to change (renew) the deposit address anytime they wish. In this case if the one who is changing address is the player, of course the player is the one who is responsible for it but I still believe that reputable casino will still try to help.
You are right, because the mistake happened with the casino. Because the casino does not notify you in advance about the change of address. However, we must and must also be careful by paying attention to the addresses of both parties when we want to make a deposit, so that unwanted errors do not occur, whether it is the casino's fault or our own.
However, it all depends on the casino we use, whether the casino has a good reputation, if yes. So, if there is an error from our side or the casino's side. They will definitely help and solve the problem well, and choosing the right casino is also very important because we will not know in the long run what will happen.

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March 27, 2024, 04:22:16 PM
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This is not new warning but I think people might need to be reminded about this after experiencing this personally just now. I recently made a loan using a casino wallet address, I check the wallet address if it’s the same before I ask the loan and I confirmed that it was the same.

The problem comes when the loan is already sent while my casino wallet address update right after the loan amount sent. Take note that I’m using same wallet address since I play to this casino for about 3 years and they just update my wallet address some time after I post my loan request here.

To make the story short. The balance is not credited but after a lengthy discussion with the support and after sending proof that my old wallet address is still the same when I made the deposit(loan) then they recover my funds out of good will.

The lesson here is always check the wallet address before you deposit no matter how long do you use the same address. Most importantly don’t use casino wallet address to receive funds that has a delay such as loan money and campaign payments since there’s a chance that they will update their wallet address without prior notice. Keep safe and have fun.


Yeah that's Right you need to take note of every payments transaction,sometimes you might be wanting to make deposits to your wallets and then it's been changed,so it's best you proofread to crosscheck every address is aligning with your own wallet address.

Yes we all know change is a constant thing and it's inevitable in every aspect of life but with that when such changes are occured there should be a proper notification from the casinos so we would be alert and know how best to carry on with such issue.
And I would say this is an eye opener to everyone to always check their deposit address and wallets so as not to fall victims.

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March 27, 2024, 04:55:58 PM
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This happened to me but not with a gambling address. It happened with our local exchange application. I used to just deposit at the same address that I have been using for a long time and then suddenly I was surprised when I checked my deposit address was changed.
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They said that my old address is still live, so even if I use it I will still receive the amount deposited. Still, I just want to be careful so that no problem will happen in the future.
You are lucky that they gave you back the deposit because other gambling sites won't even care about it.
I'm not sure how casinos manage their users' deposit addresses, but the logic should not be that different from how exchanges generate and manage their users' addresses. It is just a deposit database, to begin with, and addresses never expire regardless of what they tell you. It depends on the ToS how they handle 'expired' addresses if the users mistakenly send some crypto there. Is there a similar case to OP's, or the context is different (such as using an old address after the casino sent notice a month prior or so)? I believe any reputable casino will help you if you end up in OP's situation, if they don't I'd suggest moving to other platforms asap.

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March 27, 2024, 05:10:44 PM
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The lesson here is always check the wallet address before you deposit no matter how long do you use the same address. Most importantly don’t use casino wallet address to receive funds that has a delay such as loan money and campaign payments since there’s a chance that they will update their wallet address without prior notice. Keep safe and have fun.
This is very important, yesterday afternoon I made a deposit at Stake.com and before I did that I wanted to check whether the Bitcoin address was still the same or not, in fact, to ensure safe transactions, I generated a new address so that it was absolutely certain that the casino had updated my Bitcoin address. I've experienced cases like this in other places, but at one of the centralized exchanges because the addresses I frequently use are labeled with a special name so that when I make a transaction it's direct without needing to check again. Unfortunately, the exchange address had been updated so I was worried enough to contact support several times.
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But the problem I see here mate is what if the change happens almost minute or second apart from the sending of the funds? I mean the timing of the sending is almost same from the changing of wallet address then this will still occur like what you have experience here.

That would be the responsibility of the casino who change the address without any prior announcement. If such a thing happen, the fault is on the casino side obviously and the casino should resolve it by crediting the deposit to the account. There can be one other case where players are allowed to change (renew) the deposit address anytime they wish. In this case if the one who is changing address is the player, of course the player is the one who is responsible for it but I still believe that reputable casino will still try to help.

I think they will not only "try to help" but they will give the user all the money he transferred on the "wrong" address. Because both addresses, the "wrong" one and the "right" one, belong to them, right? I can't imagine a situation when the money just disappear if it were sent on one of the old addresses.

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March 29, 2024, 09:40:52 AM
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First things first, don't take loans for gambling Tongue.

The incident you mentioned sounds a bit odd to me because even if they update your wallet address, you should receive your funds because the wallet you had earlier should still be associated with your account and if they received funds on that wallet, they should know it is you who made a deposit and they should credit it without you reaching out to them and explaining everything with proof and stuff.
I guess a reputable platform would do that, but still, it's good that you got your funds back and they didn't refuse to credit them to your account.

One more thing that I saw someone else saying as well is to stay alert from clipboard malware because such things can change your wallet address after you copy it, which means you might copy the right one but when you paste it somewhere, it might be changed.

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March 31, 2024, 03:39:02 PM
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You took a loan and sent the money into your casino wallet address, do you want to gamble with borrowed funds? I hope not, because that is not a good thing to do. Take note that you should always check and copy the right address when you are receiving or sending funds to a custodial wallet, you can't be sure if the service have changed the deposit address in your account. I know that you may be avoiding tx fees, but it is recommended to receive funds from a third party in your own self custodial wallet and then you can fund your casino address by yourself.
I believe yes he wants to gamble using the borrowed funds because why he will use his casino's address anyway? But yeah, this is not good because we all know how gambling business are built. They always ensure that they can win more than their customer. That would feel like a double loss for us because we still need to pay our loans after, in case we got a bad luck in our play. Whether the wallet we use is custodial or not, double-checking the address is always a must. Not only that they can change the address without prior notice, we can also copy and pasted the wrong address due to some factors or reasons. Your last advice is also great because they may not allow casino addresses.

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March 31, 2024, 05:56:34 PM
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The lesson here is always check the wallet address before you deposit no matter how long do you use the same address. Most importantly don’t use casino wallet address to receive funds that has a delay such as loan money and campaign payments since there’s a chance that they will update their wallet address without prior notice. Keep safe and have fun.
Thanks for the concluding part of this post, and the two points I can extract from what you narrated which are also your fault are that you sent a loan directly to a casino, this is not cool. Thankfully, this is a loan arrangement, if it were to be the financial companies that are strict with AML, it might be difficult for you to change that wallet address. Such would be what you will ever be using with them no matter what you explain, and this will make you dependent on the wallet irrespective of whether they are the one who first sent the money to you or you first deposited to them and expecting subsequent withdrawal. Casinos' crypto addresses should be used for the primary role of sending and receiving money from them, anything other than that may create an issue.

The second part is that you undermine the way centralised crypto companies behave. This happened to me with Binance last year but they made an arrangement for me to do the crediting myself. Though the money can't be lost, only that they will have to credit you manually. But if it takes too long and you deposited into an unverified address this way, I do not know what could happen. For this, it will be good for us to verify our beneficiary details before we risk sending the asset.


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First things first, don't take loans for gambling Tongue.

It's a very important remark indeed. I feel like every post in this thread should start from this simple sentence. It's like obvious, but so many gamblers don't understand it, even those on this very forum, that I think it should repeated again and again.


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One more thing that I saw someone else saying as well is to stay alert from clipboard malware because such things can change your wallet address after you copy it, which means you might copy the right one but when you paste it somewhere, it might be changed.

To avoid thing like that always memorise the last three letters of the address you copy  and compare them to the address you paste.

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This is not new warning but I think people might need to be reminded about this after experiencing this personally just now. I recently made a loan using a casino wallet address, I check the wallet address if it’s the same before I ask the loan and I confirmed that it was the same.

The problem comes when the loan is already sent while my casino wallet address update right after the loan amount sent. Take note that I’m using same wallet address since I play to this casino for about 3 years and they just update my wallet address some time after I post my loan request here.

To make the story short. The balance is not credited but after a lengthy discussion with the support and after sending proof that my old wallet address is still the same when I made the deposit(loan) then they recover my funds out of good will.

The lesson here is always check the wallet address before you deposit no matter how long do you use the same address. Most importantly don’t use casino wallet address to receive funds that has a delay such as loan money and campaign payments since there’s a chance that they will update their wallet address without prior notice. Keep safe and have fun.

Or maybe just get a loan and using a wallet that you have control off? Not sure why you wanted to set it in a casino address, maybe to save fees and you can play right away, but this could be another lessons here to learn.

It's good though that the casino was able to recover your funds. But in worst cases, the casino might say that they address is already new and there's no way that they can recovered from that old address.
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April 04, 2024, 02:21:59 PM
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The lesson here is always check the wallet address before you deposit no matter how long do you use the same address. Most importantly don’t use casino wallet address to receive funds that has a delay such as loan money and campaign payments since there’s a chance that they will update their wallet address without prior notice. Keep safe and have fun.
Ensure that the address is correct every time you want to make a deposit, steps that must be observed at all times. I really agree that the habit of checking addresses to make sure they are correct should become a permanent habit even though it seems very trivial to do.
The address obtained from the casino is not intended to be used as an address for receiving funds from other parties. There must be a separation between the address for making deposits to the casino and the address for other receipts.

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The lesson here is always check the wallet address before you deposit no matter how long do you use the same address. Most importantly don’t use casino wallet address to receive funds that has a delay such as loan money and campaign payments since there’s a chance that they will update their wallet address without prior notice. Keep safe and have fun.
Ensure that the address is correct every time you want to make a deposit, steps that must be observed at all times. I really agree that the habit of checking addresses to make sure they are correct should become a permanent habit even though it seems very trivial to do.
The address obtained from the casino is not intended to be used as an address for receiving funds from other parties. There must be a separation between the address for making deposits to the casino and the address for other receipts.

Absolutely agree with you. Using a custodial wallet in this regard is very similar to OP's carelessness or ignorance of the simple rules of storing cryptocurrencies.

It is very common to have some problems when receiving funds, so it is very important that you have full access to the wallet. In case of receiving funds on a custodial wallet, you have neither a private key nor a seed-phrase, and therefore the wallet does not belong to you.

OP was lucky that his mistake didn't play a trick on him.

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