What do you think if Bitcointalk accepted videos?

[joker_josue]

Videos are increasingly part of our way of communicating. Although some of us like to watch more or fewer videos on the most varied topics, we have to agree that in many cases they are very useful.

In this sense, I thought: couldn't the forum also accept videos?
Of course we don't expect to see Oppenheimer - 3 hours of film - through the forum. However, short informative videos or tutorials could be interesting.

Does this make sense to you?
I spoke to theymos and he made the following observation:

Just like images, I don't want to have users' browsers automatically sending HTTP requests to a third-party site just by viewing a topic. And I don't want to proxy images in the same way that videos are proxied, since they're large.

One way that that a [video] tag could conceivably work in an acceptable way is that it could initially show up as a specially-marked link (maybe putting an 🎞️ icon in front of it, or something), and only after clicking on it would it expand via JavaScript into an embedded video. I'd first want community input on how best to do this in case anyone else has any better ideas, though, so it'd be best if you created a topic in Meta asking for feedback. (You can quote this PM.)

Thanks!

What are your opinions? Should it be possible or not to watch videos via the forum?
If so, do you think it should be possible to share videos from any platform, or just from specific platforms? And what would be the maximum time a video should take to be available here?

[Synchronice]

In this sense, I thought: couldn't the forum also accept videos?
Of course we don't expect to see Oppenheimer - 3 hours of film - through the forum. However, short informative videos or tutorials could be interesting.

Does this make sense to you?

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What are your opinions? Should it be possible or not to watch videos via the forum?
If so, do you think it should be possible to share videos from any platform, or just from specific platforms? And what would be the maximum time a video should take to be available here?

If you want to offer video hosting via talkimg, you are asking for trouble. If this is only about bitcointalk accepting videos, i.e. giving us the possibility to see videos without leaving a forum, then yes, I would really love to see it. I would love to see video embedded here the way images are, i.e. shown directly without necessity of clicking on any kind of icon.

[Lucius]

I have nothing against that idea, because they say a picture is worth a thousand words, and adding a video to the forum in a quick and easy way might be a step in a positive direction. However, I think that such a feature should somehow be limited to at least the Member+ rank, because there should be no doubt that otherwise there will be those who will abuse such a feature.

On other forum there is an option to add videos directly to the post, so it might be good to check how it's done there.

I sometimes post a video in the following form, but it takes some time, and some users don't even realize that the link to the video is hidden behind the picture.

[Catenaccio]

If a link to a video is clickable, as it is now, forum members can click on it and watch the video and I don't feel annoying or uncomfortable by clicking to watch a video after reading a short description to introduce what that video is about.

If an image attached to a video, affects loading a page, a thread, I feel it is uncomfortable.

I don't see difference between clicking to watch a video and watching it directly on the forum so why do we need to watch it directly on the forum if it can bring some side effects.

[Churchillvv]

What are your opinions? Should it be possible or not to watch videos via the forum?

I love the idea of watching a video in the forum but I think adding a video to a thread or post should come with a whole lot of rules because if there are no rules to posting videos I believe some calibers of people would just see a video of there interest whether it has to do with the forum, bitcoin or not they will just post them here just as the social media, or they can even be people who will begin to promote there youtube channels and videos in the forum hence it could lead to a defeat in the initial idea of video posting here in the forum.

If so, do you think it should be possible to share videos from any platform, or just from specific platforms? And what would be the maximum time a video should take to be available here?

I think rules should be made on what videos are to be posted here, either from a certain platform or it should be of a certain category (like bitcoin related) before it should be posted here.

And from my perspective I think a 1 minute video is too long for a forum like this because it will some how look like social media reels, then it will definitely defeat it's concept, perhaps a 30 secs video is more likely to be okay by me. Or perhaps we have to go with Theymos idea of clicking and displaying via JavaScript into an embedded video, or more like a new tab, just to display the video.


@Lucuis got it all right. There should be a limitation on who can post a video in forum because if not so there will be a lot of abuse and I can smell that already. And for me I think member rank is quite easy to achieve for one to post a video hence it should be of senior members rank or full member+  to protect the interest of the forum.

[Amphenomenon]

And what would be the maximum time a video should take to be available here?

I guess this would be depending on the video content while if its a tutorial it should be here for a longer time maybe a year though depending on the cost for keeping it

I support Lucius statement on the restriction of forum members below member from it, I guess a maximum of 10mins might not be bad since after all its for tutorial but to be frank there should be some video content restriction because there are somethings some of us personally may not like to see.

If a link to a video is clickable, as it is now, forum members can click on it and watch the video and I don't feel annoying or uncomfortable by clicking to watch a video after reading a short description to introduce what that video is about.

If an image attached to a video, affects loading a page, a thread, I feel it is uncomfortable.

I don't see difference between clicking to watch a video and watching it directly on the forum so why do we need to watch it directly on the forum if it can bring some side effects.

To be frank not everybody may click no a link since majority of us here are privacy inclined while they use a virtual hero of themselves to access these sites but I guess if the video is uploaded here they might not need to go  through such since sometimes it may skip their mind to remember to watch later.

[Catenaccio]

To be frank not everybody may click no a link since majority of us here are privacy inclined

Careful people will not carelessly click on link but if they do it, they accept risk.

Forum itself detect and block suspicious links but if a poster attach a Youtube video link, you are curious, don't mind about privacy, click on it to watch that video is not bad for you.

while they use a virtual hero of themselves to access these sites

Virtual hero, what's this?

[Wapfika]

Sharing videos or uploading it DIY is always a best way to express interesting content that you see outside the forum. This is also very helpful on beginners & help board that is frequently asking for help and tutorials on different matters. Screenshot is good but having a screen record is more efficient to share easily what we are trying to express.

Although I really like the current version of the forum which is easy to load and refresh but having a feature to import or share video that you can watch here without the need to go on the source link is the best for me.

Yes for this if possible but make sure that video is not automatically played once browse just like on social media. 

[Betwrong]

I have nothing against that idea, because they say a picture is worth a thousand words, and adding a video to the forum in a quick and easy way might be a step in a positive direction. However, I think that such a feature should somehow be limited to at least the Member+ rank, because there should be no doubt that otherwise there will be those who will abuse such a feature.

I agree with this, otherwise the feature surely will be abused.

I sometimes post a video in the following form, but it takes some time, and some users don't even realize that the link to the video is hidden behind the picture.

I'm doing exactly the same if I want to show a video. To be honest, I don't understand why anyone sees this way of showing videos inconvenient. And if you want to watch a particular video, is it so hard to click on the link or linked image?

I'm just happy with how this forum woks and afraid of some unnecessary "improvements" that can potentially damage the forum.

[vapourminer]

as long as the video doesnt autoplay im good with it. i like static pages. and ill hit youtube for videos if im in the mood

[examplens]

Videos are increasingly part of our way of communicating. Although some of us like to watch more or fewer videos on the most varied topics, we have to agree that in many cases they are very useful.

I am not sure that I recognize the video as part of the communication here on the forum. Watching videos makes me completely passive in that communication, plus it's mostly quite broad and for something that I read in 30 seconds, it's most often packed into a 2-minute video. Seems like quite a waste of time to me.

What are your opinions? Should it be possible or not to watch videos via the forum?

Just imagine spammers with this capability. You have to watch the whole video to be sure that it is a useless thing. 

A posted link is enough if someone wants to hear more.

[Plaguedeath]

With the forum that sometime went down and it takes time for the forum to load the images even though it just 2MB, the forum isn't ready yet to allow embedded videos. Usually the size of 1 minute video around 50~ MB, although we can compress it or reduce the resolution, but I don't think it's good to watch an blurry/low quality video.

At least the forum still allow GIFs, even though it's not effective to be used as tutorials.

[ibminer]

Mainly for aesthetics, Talkimg could maybe offer a way to "make a video thumbnail" of an image that is uploaded, which would darken the image a bit and overlay a basic circle/play button, then provide that as the uploaded image which can be linked. If it asks for a direct URL to the video itself during the upload, it could also provide the BBCode to put the image & link together for a post.

Still would require a user to grab an image/screenshot of the video they'd want to use and upload it, as I assume talkimg would not want to try grabbing thumbnails of videos themselves. In any case, there should probably be a disclaimer added with these types of image/links letting users know that clicking would take them to a 3rd party site.

edit: I think this could potentially work for a [video] tag as well, but the forum would need to have a template image that gets put over top of any [video] tag. The video tag would essentially then accept an image URL as a thumbnail, and a video URL.

[Amphenomenon]

while they use a virtual hero of themselves to access these sites

Virtual hero, what's this?

This is just you creating an online version of someone/character you may wish to be address as online, base on username, style of chatting and others

[TheUltraElite]

The main thing to ask yourself is Why do you need this feature and what use will it do above all that is already available?

Tutorials and informative videos, there are loads available on the internet. Of course you can suggest an "Official" bitcointalk-community driven video set for newbies who seek information.

In my opinion, uploading such "Series" should be on video hosting sites like Youtube or so. Images already on this forum ends up being an eyesore (no offense to anybody).

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Countless times on this forum, users have actually made reference to some helpful video links that were not directly hosted on this platform but on other social apps like YouTube, Facebook, Ticktock, etc.

Last year, there was a topic I created in the gambling section in which I included a video that was saved in my gallery, but since I couldn't upload it directly to my post on this forum, I had to upload it on a different website where I was now able to copy the video link. 

Most people cannot actually understand a written article or piece of content as well as they will if it were a video they are watching. So, I agree with @Lucius that "a picture is worth a thousand words.".

This idea is cool to me. 

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Since it is better to make use of the video link than the video itself, this will help us from having the hectic attempts in trying to load some video contents from their respective platforms, i like it the way this forum operates, not only that, when you're logging in, you wont have any delay on loading the content because there is no video uploads allowed that may be part of other reason for a slow in loading the bitcointalk page, this alone is enough reason.

[Mia Chloe]

This is a nice idea joker_josue it will definitely help make some things easier to understand via video illustrations. Since everyone is of the opinion they don't want a clickable video, or an autoplay setting, my suggestion is if possible, we can create a video hosting site like TALKImg but it would work like an iframe function on this forum. In that way you have full control over the video without leaving the page.

Plus I think there should be a restriction for it's use probably full member rank upwards.

[SFR10]

If so, do you think it should be possible to share videos from any platform, or just from specific platforms?

I prefer the embedded videos to be from a platform that doesn't force users to view an ad or two ^{[YouTube (e.g. standard videos) is a perfect example of a platform that should be avoided]}.

And what would be the maximum time a video should take to be available here?

I'm not sure if the length of the embedded videos can put significant stress on the resources of this forum or not ^{[especially since they're hosted somewhere else]}, but I think a maximum of three minutes would be more than enough for covering a lot of things.
IIRC, there were security risks with embedding such things, so I'm wondering what changed.

[electronicash]

not all forums do have this kind of functionality but having a video that can be played without going out of the forum will encourage deeper discussions. videos are good topic starter, especially with the news that is happening all over the world or even just the videos of crypto influencers, they are increasing too.

and most of all why it's a great idea is because we can finally post memes from twitter and youtube here once it's put into action.