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March 30, 2024, 05:33:42 PM
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Op I would not blame you as it's your first and may be you want to gather experience, but for me the return is too small to equate the time spend and the heart beat over the game.

But trying something and seeing a success it give more courage to do more better live bet result most time is more sure than gamble before the game kickstart.

I predict more accurate and win live game prediction than before match kick start.

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March 30, 2024, 07:15:38 PM
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Why will I want to bet a game with 1k just to later cash out 1,641, it's like saying I made a profit of 641. Who does that! I am that gambler that don't fancy cash out that much which why before I place my bet I have before then made up my mind that there's no room for cash out be it  live match prediction or prematch.


He is a scared and curious gambler, and that's the reason why he choose to cash out, just so that he doesn't get to lose the initial money he used and I feel it was curiosity that made him try out the option of game he played. I often do that with different game pattern but what I like most is draw because the option yield good returns with just a few games in selection.

The way he constructs his post and the amount involved on his bet surely he is pertaining to the inconsistency of the cashout amount offer compared to the odds that he already won while he is still waiting for the last leg of his parlay.

Even I is wondering why does the cashout is around 1.6 while it was supposed to be close on a 2 match with both 2.5odds parlay bets. Choosing cashout option is not a sign of fear but rather it’s the desire to secure profit.

From the way I see it, this is a good move and decision made by OP, it's better that he won the match and earn little on it than to loose the entire game, if it were to be from the start when he was about to make the bet, the entire interest on the game is that 600 plus, I may advise him not to gamble it and risk loosing his money because what he stands to gain is lesser to the risk of what he's trying to loose, but as the game proceeds in such direction that he have to just maneuver himself just not to loose the bet, I will say such is a wise decision.

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March 30, 2024, 08:57:36 PM
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You shouldn't bet too much on live bets, because odds are usually very bad and there is always a waiting period between the moment when you try to place your bet and the moment when it is accepted and if an event happens during this time period changing the odds in a bad way for the house your bet will be rejected. It gives a quite large edge to the bookmaker over the bettors and it's very difficult to make any profit in the long run because of that.
Besides that you should try to use the attribute height of bbc tag [img] in order to reduce the size of your pictures like [img height=300] for example.

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March 30, 2024, 11:58:16 PM
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that cashout thing is just new but sometimes it makes us get greedy and miss the opportunity to enjoy a bigger winning. If I would choose, I'd rather not have that cashout option in my account if there's a way to block it because it causes some interruption on my focus.
I believe it's the opposite. A greedy person will always chase bigger wins. Someone who is not greedy will play it safe and accept whatever the sportsbook will offer to him and cash out while he still have the chance to do so. A greedy person is the one who takes the risk not the opposite.
OP, the amount the sportsbook offered you is reasonable given that the odds of the last game has increased from ~2x to ~3x which means your chances of winning decreased.

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March 31, 2024, 12:34:06 AM
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No it doesn't work that way, you have to check the winning probability which you picked 'over' 1.5 and yet your game is in between 'over' 0.5, meaning you need additional goals to be either 2.0 to win and the tendency to win under 85 minute is very poor.
So what made you think they will allow you to cash out 4k plus or 6k?
They won't all less you have 2 goals scored before 85 minutes for the first game, at then you can be fully sure that you have won the game. This same thing happened to me, a game that was to give 8k and out of 10 selected matches all already played, just waiting for game over, additional +5 minutes was given and the other team equalized the game to be draw. that was how I lost the game, although cashout option was given to me but I was too confident of myself thinking the game would go according to how I predicted.

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March 31, 2024, 01:03:41 PM
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that cashout thing is just new but sometimes it makes us get greedy and miss the opportunity to enjoy a bigger winning. If I would choose, I'd rather not have that cashout option in my account if there's a way to block it because it causes some interruption on my focus.
I believe it's the opposite. A greedy person will always chase bigger wins. Someone who is not greedy will play it safe and accept whatever the sportsbook will offer to him and cash out while he still have the chance to do so. A greedy person is the one who takes the risk not the opposite.
OP, the amount the sportsbook offered you is reasonable given that the odds of the last game has increased from ~2x to ~3x which means your chances of winning decreased.
That's not being greedy, you gamble and aim for a bigger win, that's our main goal. You can only call yourself greedy if you get tempted to do things that are our of your plan, like when you are betting in sports, you don't think of cashing out once you see you are already winning.

Thing is, casino wouldn't offer a cash out if they know you aren't winning, so what's the use of cashing out? I mean, we are here to take risk, just be a more risk taker, go home or go big so no regrets in the end.

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March 31, 2024, 01:51:06 PM
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OP, I was thinking you could understand  the nature of game you entered. I will only assume you are a newbie or it is your first time gambling and seeing such features as well. What you were given was a cash out option for you to choose if in the end your game does not win, at least you could get a little cash out from your game. This feature is mostly good when you are having any doubt about the game to end in your favour. In most cases, gamblers opt for it and walk away with the little amount presented rather than losing all at once.
So the casino presented you the cash out features for you to choose either to take the cash or continue the game and accept the end result with fate.


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March 31, 2024, 01:53:15 PM
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that cashout thing is just new but sometimes it makes us get greedy and miss the opportunity to enjoy a bigger winning. If I would choose, I'd rather not have that cashout option in my account if there's a way to block it because it causes some interruption on my focus.
I believe it's the opposite. A greedy person will always chase bigger wins. Someone who is not greedy will play it safe and accept whatever the sportsbook will offer to him and cash out while he still have the chance to do so. A greedy person is the one who takes the risk not the opposite.
OP, the amount the sportsbook offered you is reasonable given that the odds of the last game has increased from ~2x to ~3x which means your chances of winning decreased.
That's not being greedy, you gamble and aim for a bigger win, that's our main goal. You can only call yourself greedy if you get tempted to do things that are our of your plan, like when you are betting in sports, you don't think of cashing out once you see you are already winning.

Thing is, casino wouldn't offer a cash out if they know you aren't winning, so what's the use of cashing out? I mean, we are here to take risk, just be a more risk taker, go home or go big so no regrets in the end.

On the context that you use the word greedy to the cash out feature, I think the better word is scared/feared on losing the current guaranteed profit offered by the casino. Being greedy for securing profit is not right because the user means he is already settled to the amount which the casino being offered on the cash out.

Your example on this post about greediness is correct too. I think you grasp perfectly how greedy really means. But your usage on the previous context is really not appropriate because cash out is intended to secure profit while there’s still risk involved on your current bet.
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March 31, 2024, 04:27:45 PM
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a way to maximize profit while playing live match is also ... play single matches! this allow win each winning selection!
Ok you will not earn a multiplier but you will sure to maximize any profit... just a single mistake can ruin a perfect payslip.
Meanwhile playing single match is always an advantage.
I tried to explain and summarize these suggestions here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1234109.0

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March 31, 2024, 04:41:18 PM
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That's not being greedy, you gamble and aim for a bigger win, that's our main goal. You can only call yourself greedy if you get tempted to do things that are our of your plan, like when you are betting in sports, you don't think of cashing out once you see you are already winning.

Thing is, casino wouldn't offer a cash out if they know you aren't winning, so what's the use of cashing out? I mean, we are here to take risk, just be a more risk taker, go home or go big so no regrets in the end.
It's all about the winning, because as a gambler, you will never consider a cash out when you are in winning, this is because at that point you already come way too far assured with your bet and it outcomes and also having that assurance that you will win the game since you are already in winning is what make it difficult for you to Cash out at that point in time.
Most times, we can't tell to which extent the cash out features can help us to make good decisions or make tangible incomes in profits while we use them and what are the winning potentials of the game, but above all having in mind how risky and unpredictable football match could be, so we need to properly analys the feature and possible outcome before taking risks of looking away from your available cash out.

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March 31, 2024, 07:44:47 PM
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An achievement it is if it's your first time betting and winning on a live game. I don't bet into such but make sure that this don't overjoy because what may happen later on is you'd be wagering more or what you cannot afford to lose.

The excitement and joy is there and that's why I am giving you a reminder to please be reminded about that and always get yourself in control. Because with first time wins, this is where our confidence is being built.

And you'd never know how far it will bring you if you don't watch yourself out.

That's why some people say that having bad luck the first time you play is actually having quite good luck. So you won the bet, and chances are that you're reliving it in your memory and waiting for a new opportunity to repeat the feat, but next time you probably won't be so lucky, so plan ahead and set some personal limits before you put too much at stake. At least it's not instant games, so you have more options to cultivate patience.

Whatever the case, I wish you good luck Smiley
I definitely agree, setting some personal limits so that he won't go that far and will result into more intense type of gambling as he might not able to contain himself with it.

It's also fine if he's going to keep with small bets so that he won't be having any problems with money and it's a way for him to control himself. Once he starts to see that he's betting with big amounts, he has to be careful with that.

But as long as he's betting fine and small amounts, he's good and just have to enjoy.

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March 31, 2024, 08:53:13 PM
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That's not being greedy, you gamble and aim for a bigger win, that's our main goal. You can only call yourself greedy if you get tempted to do things that are our of your plan, like when you are betting in sports, you don't think of cashing out once you see you are already winning.

Thing is, casino wouldn't offer a cash out if they know you aren't winning, so what's the use of cashing out? I mean, we are here to take risk, just be a more risk taker, go home or go big so no regrets in the end.
It's all about the winning, because as a gambler, you will never consider a cash out when you are in winning, this is because at that point you already come way too far assured with your bet and it outcomes and also having that assurance that you will win the game since you are already in winning is what make it difficult for you to Cash out at that point in time.
Most times, we can't tell to which extent the cash out features can help us to make good decisions or make tangible incomes in profits while we use them and what are the winning potentials of the game, but above all having in mind how risky and unpredictable football match could be, so we need to properly analys the feature and possible outcome before taking risks of looking away from your available cash out.
If we mean business, we don't have to complicate things, make it simple and just focus on winning. Thing is, when you consider "cash out", you'll now think of this being part of your strategy, which means you'll include this on your analysis, and like I mentioned, that word regret will always be present as you might regret that you should not cash out, or cash out late or early... that kind of feeling is so frustrating and might affect your decision making, you know, decision making is very crucial in sports betting as we all like to win in the long run, this isn't just a game, some of us aim to be profitable and try to beat the system that most of us struggle to beat.

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March 31, 2024, 08:59:46 PM
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It was my first attempt at playing a live game. I wagered #1000 on a winning range of #7,000 on three live games out of a total of seven odd. I started to question why this sport bet robot was acting that way after two of the three games had already been played, even if I eventually won the game. At that point, my cash out was #1,641.
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. The image is too big and it covered the whole screen. Op you odd is good but gambling is not something you wins always so when you playing you have to consider losing. And you are not the greedy type, the $641 profit from the $1000 deposit is good. Since you were asked to cash out.$1641 and as a beginner it was good for you to take that and replay again. But most greediness would not allow them to cash out and loss all. Op you should have budget to play gamble and don't use a random amount to play gamble. This $1000 you supposed serve you for about one week plus but you used it for once. Restructure your gambling habit.

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March 31, 2024, 09:21:00 PM
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If I didn't convert what the cash out amount in the OP I wouldn't know that it's only $1.25...

Let's not focus on the amount, instead focus on the feature.

Well, cash out option has been there already, but it may differ from sportsbook to sportsbook, so you can't question the casino if the amount in the cash out is lower than you expected. What you have to do is just don't mind it or mind it... cash out if you are not sure with your bet, but if you are confident you'll win, you'll let the games to be over and see what happen.
Also the win that OP has got, for a first timer it's already a big goal that he's made and we shouldn't cut the fun that makes them happy with what happened to him.

You know, the best feeling in gambling is when you are brave enough to accept whatever will happen and cash out option is not for the brave ones.
But cashing out when you're in profit is also an act of being wise and that's why if someone gets to cash out or withdraw their profits, that's the money that they deserve to have.

They can take as much as they can for cashing out when they're happy so that it won't be taken back from them.

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March 31, 2024, 09:25:34 PM
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It was my first attempt at playing a live game. I wagered #1000 on a winning range of #7,000 on three live games out of a total of seven odd. I started to question why this sport bet robot was acting that way after two of the three games had already been played, even if I eventually won the game. At that point, my cash out was #1,641.

Did you expect to see a cash out of N5000 or more? It doesn't matter whether two of your games had already played, there's still one pending game. At the time you took the screenshot the game was at 85 minute, so there's 5 minutes left for the game to come to an end. The chances of either side scoring one goal to give you the win is very slim that's why you had a N1,650 cash out option and the more the game go into the final minutes the more the cash out amount decreases. However, if a goal is later scored in the game, the complete amount will be credited to your account.
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March 31, 2024, 09:34:45 PM
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It was my first attempt at playing a live game. I wagered #1000 on a winning range of #7,000 on three live games out of a total of seven odd. I started to question why this sport bet robot was acting that way after two of the three games had already been played, even if I eventually won the game. At that point, my cash out was #1,641.

Did you expect to see a cash out of N5000 or more? It doesn't matter whether two of your games had already played, there's still one pending game. At the time you took the screenshot the game was at 85 minute, so there's 5 minutes left for the game to come to an end. The chances of either side scoring one goal to give you the win is very slim that's why you had a N1,650 cash out option and the more the game go into the final minutes the more the cash out amount decreases. However, if a goal is later scored in the game, the complete amount will be credited to your account.
The available cashout is in proportion to how much odds have already entered I his favor just as we see that those two games that he already won are all small odds games and the pay out based on his staked amount is what is displaying as cashout, so is left for the ops to either take the cashout or risk to wait till the end of the match to be able to know wether he lose everything or all the total odds calculated.

Bit if I were the ops I will take the cashout and walk away Becassine looking at the ongoing game, it point to a directions that may possibly become a lose for the ops which is too risky for the ops as a newbies.

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March 31, 2024, 09:50:38 PM
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It was my first attempt at playing a live game. I wagered #1000 on a winning range of #7,000 on three live games out of a total of seven odd. I started to question why this sport bet robot was acting that way after two of the three games had already been played, even if I eventually won the game. At that point, my cash out was #1,641.

Did you expect to see a cash out of N5000 or more? It doesn't matter whether two of your games had already played, there's still one pending game. At the time you took the screenshot the game was at 85 minute, so there's 5 minutes left for the game to come to an end. The chances of either side scoring one goal to give you the win is very slim that's why you had a N1,650 cash out option and the more the game go into the final minutes the more the cash out amount decreases. However, if a goal is later scored in the game, the complete amount will be credited to your account.
You are very tight, I think op was actually expecting to see a way higher amount judging from the fact that he two games out of the three games he played or betted on had already won, it was just remaining one to go, but he forget that that one game that is remaining is running at a higher odds than the other two games that have already played combined, and as such, there is a very high chances that he may lose the game.

Good thing he mentioned that he is new to sports betting, so, we can't blame him much since this are some little stuff we usually don't know how they work or how they are calculated mostly when we are new to gambling, and this is not to say or assume that experienced gamblers know how this stuff is calculated, but I guess we all get used to it with deeper and deeper experience in gambling.

I do not know how this game later turned out for op, whether he lost it, or later won, or later cashed out, but all the same, I believe he has learnt something from this experience and going forward, it should be useful to him.

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That's not being greedy, you gamble and aim for a bigger win, that's our main goal. You can only call yourself greedy if you get tempted to do things that are our of your plan, like when you are betting in sports, you don't think of cashing out once you see you are already winning.
I think you missed the point.
We are not talking about greed here in the bad sense of the word. Besides, what I said that if you cash out then you are not being greedy unlike when you refuse the cash out offer.
It's all about odds and the sportsbook doesn't offer to cash out because they know you will win but because the odds are not in their favor anymore and they want to minimize the potential losses.

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You don't cash out when you place a bet in sports betting if you don't have a very large amount at stake and have a fear that you might lose it. What's the fun in cashing out? Make sure that you always use amounts for your bets that you can afford to lose and then sit back and watch when you have placed your bets, that's the fun of sports betting.

I would never cash out even if it was my first experience and I didn't have a lot of knowledge, but again, sports betting isn't for people that lack knowledge about sports or a specific sport that they are interested to gamble in. You get into sports betting when you have confidence in your knowledge and know that you can dominate and won't chicken out.
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April 01, 2024, 03:22:07 PM
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You don't cash out when you place a bet in sports betting if you don't have a very large amount at stake and have a fear that you might lose it. What's the fun in cashing out? Make sure that you always use amounts for your bets that you can afford to lose and then sit back and watch when you have placed your bets, that's the fun of sports betting.

I would never cash out even if it was my first experience and I didn't have a lot of knowledge, but again, sports betting isn't for people that lack knowledge about sports or a specific sport that they are interested to gamble in. You get into sports betting when you have confidence in your knowledge and know that you can dominate and won't chicken out.
First, there is nothing wrong in deciding to cash out your bet when ever you feel the game possibly may not end in your favor, most especially if it's a parlay - multi-bet, this is called risk management and it's completely advisable for gamblers to always consider it when ever the opportunity is made available to the player, it can be fun to engage in sports betting, but I definitely will tell you that it's no fun at all to constantly loss money due to inaccurate predictions, and more painful is when you actually had an opportunity to cash out the bet, but refused it and later end up losing that bet, that is, losing your initial bet, plus the money you would have cashed out if you had taken the offer, there is absolutely no shame in cashing out of a bet, like I said before, it's a simple risk management feature.

I do sports betting alot and several times in the times, I've had to cash out of my bet when the casino made the opportunity available to me, this is mostly when I am no longer comfortable or confident that the game will end in the way I predicted it, as we all know that in sports betting, there is little to no chance of accurate predictions, even the last seconds of the game can change or create a significant turn around in the game..

So, for a sports bettor, whenever he or she is no longer confident, it's advisable to use the cash out feature, there is absolutely no shame in it, even if at the end, the game end up as you predicted, be happy with what you have and try the next game.

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