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April 04, 2024, 02:25:42 AM
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We should first consider the use of bot as being supported by some of the gambling platforms or they work against it, this will be the first approach on what we can give in addressing the whole situation, using bot may be termed as cheat for some platforms while some may not really see it as something bad because they know that the bot couldn't be that effective I winning all games for you, but to stand on a safe side, we need to read the rules and regulations.
The rules and regulations of each platform will most likely influence how they see the application of bots. Some platforms may consider it cheating because the decisions are not made by a human player. Others may accept it, as long as it does not jeopardize the game's integrity. For example, a platform may allow a bot to make simple decisions, such as whether to fold or call, but not sophisticated ones that require human intelligence. So it all relies on the platform and its policies.
Means there are some sites that allows players to use bot? well that is how important to check their terms each time because if not then you will be facing issues
once you need to withdraw, but one thing that  keeps me thinking is why Casino allows us to do everything as long as we are depositing
and the issues and violations will only occur once you need to take out the money?
look how tricky and selfish is that, why not confront gamblers earlier than to wait for them upon withdrawal because for me this is something that fishy .

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April 04, 2024, 04:30:11 AM
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Seeing that the OP has been on the forum but hasn't come back through the thread to comment on any of the issues we have raised, I'd bet he's already gone back to play what he won and lost it. Being the first time and having won a total of $1.2, that would be most likely.

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April 04, 2024, 02:33:44 PM
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Seeing that the OP has been on the forum but hasn't come back through the thread to comment on any of the issues we have raised, I'd bet he's already gone back to play what he won and lost it.

OP had already received a lot of comments regarding his post and had probably understood that there's nothing wrong with the amount the site has offered to him. The amount is small but probably still relevant to him, and I think it's not the amount (whether small or big) we are talking here but it's our expectation regarding as to how much could a sportsbook give us if we cash out.

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Being the first time and having won a total of $1.2, that would be most likely.
And even thought of cash out... I wouldn't if it's in my case, but it's him and that amount is significant for him.

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April 04, 2024, 03:03:09 PM
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We should first consider the use of bot as being supported by some of the gambling platforms or they work against it, this will be the first approach on what we can give in addressing the whole situation, using bot may be termed as cheat for some platforms while some may not really see it as something bad because they know that the bot couldn't be that effective I winning all games for you, but to stand on a safe side, we need to read the rules and regulations.
The rules and regulations of each platform will most likely influence how they see the application of bots. Some platforms may consider it cheating because the decisions are not made by a human player. Others may accept it, as long as it does not jeopardize the game's integrity. For example, a platform may allow a bot to make simple decisions, such as whether to fold or call, but not sophisticated ones that require human intelligence. So it all relies on the platform and its policies.
Means there are some sites that allows players to use bot? well that is how important to check their terms each time because if not then you will be facing issues
once you need to withdraw, but one thing that  keeps me thinking is why Casino allows us to do everything as long as we are depositing
and the issues and violations will only occur once you need to take out the money?
look how tricky and selfish is that, why not confront gamblers earlier than to wait for them upon withdrawal because for me this is something that fishy .

 this is what other casino did they are always made some reasons why some other gamblers who commit some mistakes can't withdraw Their winning money. And fore those gamblers who are careless enough to do such thing then they can't fight back to casino cause the gambler commit a mistakes then thier money is in the casino hands. And this is common issues nowadays and to prevent this things happen then the gambler it self need to review or read the terms of conditions by the casino so that there's no chance or way that the casino will hold the withdrawal.

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April 04, 2024, 04:38:47 PM
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We should first consider the use of bot as being supported by some of the gambling platforms or they work against it, this will be the first approach on what we can give in addressing the whole situation, using bot may be termed as cheat for some platforms while some may not really see it as something bad because they know that the bot couldn't be that effective I winning all games for you, but to stand on a safe side, we need to read the rules and regulations.
The rules and regulations of each platform will most likely influence how they see the application of bots. Some platforms may consider it cheating because the decisions are not made by a human player. Others may accept it, as long as it does not jeopardize the game's integrity. For example, a platform may allow a bot to make simple decisions, such as whether to fold or call, but not sophisticated ones that require human intelligence. So it all relies on the platform and its policies.
Means there are some sites that allows players to use bot? well that is how important to check their terms each time because if not then you will be facing issues
once you need to withdraw, but one thing that  keeps me thinking is why Casino allows us to do everything as long as we are depositing
and the issues and violations will only occur once you need to take out the money?
look how tricky and selfish is that, why not confront gamblers earlier than to wait for them upon withdrawal because for me this is something that fishy .

 this is what other casino did they are always made some reasons why some other gamblers who commit some mistakes can't withdraw Their winning money. And fore those gamblers who are careless enough to do such thing then they can't fight back to casino cause the gambler commit a mistakes then thier money is in the casino hands. And this is common issues nowadays and to prevent this things happen then the gambler it self need to review or read the terms of conditions by the casino so that there's no chance or way that the casino will hold the withdrawal.

Of course we cannot fight the casino except we have the financial background as backup to take them on a law suit if they were wrong,  but on the other aspect, the gamblers also have a lot to have contributed to the way they got served by some of these gambling platforms, we cannot violate them and expect to go scot-free, they have their rules and they have already set a system that guides over such.



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April 04, 2024, 05:02:24 PM
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Seeing that the OP has been on the forum but hasn't come back through the thread to comment on any of the issues we have raised, I'd bet he's already gone back to play what he won and lost it. Being the first time and having won a total of $1.2, that would be most likely.
Lol! You're probably right. He is still active in the forum, but didn't post again in this thread yet. It's pretty evident that is an amateur punter who was simply questioning the mechanics of cashout in sportsbetting.

Personally, I rarely cashout since I like to let my money ride for the entire bet(Single and Parlay) since I prefer yolo(all-in) gambling.

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April 04, 2024, 05:07:14 PM
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Seeing that the OP has been on the forum but hasn't come back through the thread to comment on any of the issues we have raised, I'd bet he's already gone back to play what he won and lost it. Being the first time and having won a total of $1.2, that would be most likely.
Lol! You're probably right. He is still active in the forum, but didn't post again in this thread yet. It's pretty evident that is an amateur punter who was simply questioning the mechanics of cashout in sportsbetting.

Personally, I rarely cashout since I like to let my money ride for the entire bet(Single and Parlay) since I prefer yolo(all-in) gambling.

His expectations for the casino giving a cashout offer equivalent to the total odds already settled on his bet probably makes him rant on the casino cashout system since newbie will always think that they already have that profit amount if they place a single so it should be the same scenario on parlay bets.

What trivial on this thread is the amount involved just like what PokerPlayer emphasized. This kind of parlay bet usually the type that you will let it finish since the amount at stake is small regardless if win or loss.

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April 04, 2024, 05:44:43 PM
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that cashout thing is just new but sometimes it makes us get greedy and miss the opportunity to enjoy a bigger winning. If I would choose, I'd rather not have that cashout option in my account if there's a way to block it because it causes some interruption on my focus.
I believe it's the opposite. A greedy person will always chase bigger wins. Someone who is not greedy will play it safe and accept whatever the sportsbook will offer to him and cash out while he still have the chance to do so. A greedy person is the one who takes the risk not the opposite.
OP, the amount the sportsbook offered you is reasonable given that the odds of the last game has increased from ~2x to ~3x which means your chances of winning decreased.
This! But, both greedy and non-greedy person, as long as both are playing the game, are both taking a risk, though the level of their risk are not the same. In regards to the game of the OP, yes, that's how a sports betting works, or even other gambling games. This is where we can attain more thrill and more profits, in case we got lucky.

It may only be unpleasant for some once they lose because they already saw the money building, only to find out that it will crash later on and they will never get even a single piece of it. It's still nice on how the OP shared his experience. He can surely learn from it and others too who will try to play the same game.

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since the games that already won have the odds of x1.8 and x1.9 i feel the cashout should be bigger, something like x2.5, but since is the cashout option it makes sense that it becomes a lower value. I mean at least you have the option to cancel the bet and walk away with a profit.

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April 05, 2024, 05:02:10 AM
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Seeing that the OP has been on the forum but hasn't come back through the thread to comment on any of the issues we have raised, I'd bet he's already gone back to play what he won and lost it. Being the first time and having won a total of $1.2, that would be most likely.
correct , we have been waiting for His update and answers to our posts but did not comply means either he losses that amount or this is just a made up story to earn merits(common thing that we find in topic starter recently)
and actually 1.2 dollars give him hard time to earn but that easy to lose  lol.

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Seeing that the OP has been on the forum but hasn't come back through the thread to comment on any of the issues we have raised, I'd bet he's already gone back to play what he won and lost it. Being the first time and having won a total of $1.2, that would be most likely.
Lol! You're probably right. He is still active in the forum, but didn't post again in this thread yet. It's pretty evident that is an amateur punter who was simply questioning the mechanics of cashout in sportsbetting.

Personally, I rarely cashout since I like to let my money ride for the entire bet(Single and Parlay) since I prefer yolo(all-in) gambling.
Hahaha, there is also possibility that he is of gamblers who only liked playing casino games for long time, so he created this thread to get more information regarding sports betting and the mechanics of sports betting.
Agree with you because when gambler understands sports betting and has really been familiar with all the mechanisms of gambling in any type for long time then he definitely has lot of experience and knowledge that he really understands.

Wait, if you place bets like that, will each bet be large enough amount?
I very rarely bet all-in because it would be very disappointing if I failed, but under certain conditions I can do it occasionally and when I feel there is decent profit then cashout is my main choice.
This minimizes losses and also takes advantage of opportunities that present themselves to be able to save profits.

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April 05, 2024, 07:29:05 AM
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since the games that already won have the odds of x1.8 and x1.9 i feel the cashout should be bigger, something like x2.5, but since is the cashout option it makes sense that it becomes a lower value. I mean at least you have the option to cancel the bet and walk away with a profit.

Maybe other casinos offer bigger amounts for early cashouts you should try.
The site might have their own rate when it comes to cashing out and the amount is reasonable.
I wonder if OP is able to get that profit early or choses to stay and continue with the bet. Live betting might be different on every site, and that's why you have to understand the terms of every site so you can know where to gamble more and what site offers the best rate, for me this is already ok.

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since the games that already won have the odds of x1.8 and x1.9 i feel the cashout should be bigger, something like x2.5, but since is the cashout option it makes sense that it becomes a lower value. I mean at least you have the option to cancel the bet and walk away with a profit.


You don't only consider the bets that have already won as part of the parlay. Try to consider also the active bets, bets that are not yet graded and if the system sees it that its chance is lower, than they will put a cash out that is not based on our expectation. There's nothing wrong with the cash out amount, if OP complain, he can just wait until the game is over and see if he wins, but that cash out amount IMO is just reasonable.


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Maybe other casinos offer bigger amounts for early cashouts you should try.
That can be confirm if OP have the same bet on the other sportsbook.

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April 05, 2024, 11:17:44 AM
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Seeing that the OP has been on the forum but hasn't come back through the thread to comment on any of the issues we have raised, I'd bet he's already gone back to play what he won and lost it. Being the first time and having won a total of $1.2, that would be most likely.
I would give him credit still even if he went back and risk the whole balance again, its rare this days to see newbies risking $1.2 on a bet, they always go big, the few ones I knew are desperate, if he lost this amount it's not going to change him, compared to someone who risks $100 thats meant for food restocking on gambling and they starve for a month.

At least he will feel what it's like to win and to lose, he can easily learn some lessons from here compared to someone who could end up chasing what he lost, because the amount is too high and can't move on from it.

Its becoming very hard and hard for beginners to risk very small money on gambling, they always feel special when they want to start, they have no questions or curiosity why many people aren't making it with gambling.

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April 05, 2024, 05:00:20 PM
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since the games that already won have the odds of x1.8 and x1.9 i feel the cashout should be bigger, something like x2.5, but since is the cashout option it makes sense that it becomes a lower value. I mean at least you have the option to cancel the bet and walk away with a profit.


You don't only consider the bets that have already won as part of the parlay. Try to consider also the active bets, bets that are not yet graded and if the system sees it that its chance is lower, than they will put a cash out that is not based on our expectation. There's nothing wrong with the cash out amount, if OP complain, he can just wait until the game is over and see if he wins, but that cash out amount IMO is just reasonable.

Go to a sports book and make a parlay of x1.8 and x1.9, i just tried it and got the odds of x3.45... so offering a cash out of x1.6 while he could get x3.45 with those 2 games is weird. But as you mention, there are some other considerations involved, x1.6 doesn't feel fair but he has the option to cash out and that's a nice feature. And doesn't matter the amount they offer, it's profit.

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April 05, 2024, 05:07:28 PM
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The Op did not say this was their first time gambling, just their first time staking on a live bet. They also did not say whether or not they took the cash-out option.

It must have been an experience the first time playing on a game that is already live. You have to do some more bits of analysis and most importantly you need to be watching the games live to have a feel of the momentum and which way it is looking to go. Jumping blind into live bets is very risky.

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I don't think that it makes any sense to bet on live when you are not following the match very well. It is more than risky to bet on a live match you are not following. Live betting brings out the best vibes in watching matches. It makes every moment of the match to count. I have never bet live, but if I should do, I should not be in a haste to cash out. Live bet is just like short term gambling, why make it shorter by cashing out.
Op might never come back to the thread, this is not the first time I have seen people make this kind of posts and not return to it. This happen especially to newbies, I don't know whether they don't know where to return or losses interest in the middle of the discussion.

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April 05, 2024, 05:15:15 PM
Last edit: April 05, 2024, 06:03:19 PM by 348Judah
 #77

We should first consider the use of bot as being supported by some of the gambling platforms or they work against it, this will be the first approach on what we can give in addressing the whole situation, using bot may be termed as cheat for some platforms while some may not really see it as something bad because they know that the bot couldn't be that effective I winning all games for you, but to stand on a safe side, we need to read the rules and regulations.
The rules and regulations of each platform will most likely influence how they see the application of bots. Some platforms may consider it cheating because the decisions are not made by a human player. Others may accept it, as long as it does not jeopardize the game's integrity. For example, a platform may allow a bot to make simple decisions, such as whether to fold or call, but not sophisticated ones that require human intelligence. So it all relies on the platform and its policies.
Means there are some sites that allows players to use bot? well that is how important to check their terms each time because if not then you will be facing issues
once you need to withdraw, but one thing that  keeps me thinking is why Casino allows us to do everything as long as we are depositing
and the issues and violations will only occur once you need to take out the money?
look how tricky and selfish is that, why not confront gamblers earlier than to wait for them upon withdrawal because for me this is something that fishy .

Some gamblers will only be seeing otherwise and keep talking what they don't realized they are the cause to what they are seeing with the use of a particular gambling platform, we need to go by their rules and this should be the first thing we must put into consideration because if such is not in place, i doubt our stay with the use of the platform to enjoy gambling, i want to believe that it will also be a lazy gambler or an inexperience one that will be busy looking around for gambling bot, especially when such gambler wants to make money from gambling.

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April 05, 2024, 05:55:42 PM
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Seeing that the OP has been on the forum but hasn't come back through the thread to comment on any of the issues we have raised, I'd bet he's already gone back to play what he won and lost it. Being the first time and having won a total of $1.2, that would be most likely.
Lol! You're probably right. He is still active in the forum, but didn't post again in this thread yet. It's pretty evident that is an amateur punter who was simply questioning the mechanics of cashout in sportsbetting.

Personally, I rarely cashout since I like to let my money ride for the entire bet(Single and Parlay) since I prefer yolo(all-in) gambling.
Not all newbies know how to reply thread that they have created. When I was newbie I also faced this challenge until I was taught by a friend. Even to lock a thread was a problem for me until it was livesmayfamilis that taught me how to do it with screenshots of how to do it. So the way I look at it the Op might have facing that challenge but not sure because when I checked the Op profile, he was active on the 3rd of April. Yah those who are amateur in gambling are always afraid to loss all their money in the bet so if the cash out button appears on the screen they didn't waste time to cash it out. But the legend gamblers always have the confidence that they will win the game and the bet will enter.

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April 05, 2024, 06:22:00 PM
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The Op did not say this was their first time gambling, just their first time staking on a live bet. They also did not say whether or not they took the cash-out option.

It must have been an experience the first time playing on a game that is already live. You have to do some more bits of analysis and most importantly you need to be watching the games live to have a feel of the momentum and which way it is looking to go. Jumping blind into live bets is very risky.

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I don't think that it makes any sense to bet on live when you are not following the match very well. It is more than risky to bet on a live match you are not following. Live betting brings out the best vibes in watching matches. It makes every moment of the match to count. I have never bet live, but if I should do, I should not be in a haste to cash out. Live bet is just like short term gambling, why make it shorter by cashing out.
Op might never come back to the thread, this is not the first time I have seen people make this kind of posts and not return to it. This happen especially to newbies, I don't know whether they don't know where to return or losses interest in the middle of the discussion.
Well, I am highly experienced in live betting, and what I do have to tell you is that, you never will understand how live bets actually works until you try live bets yourself.

First thing I have to tell you is that, 99 percent of gamblers who bet on sports live games do so, not because they want to enjoy the match the more, or to cherish every moment of the remaining part of that match as you said, but they bet solely to make quick profit, live bets is like what we call scalp trading in crypto currency trading, it's risky, but those who engage in it are usually not doing it to have fun, but are plainly after profit, this is why most live bettors will stay online to monitor how the game is going, and wouldn't hesitate to use the cash out function whenever the casino makes it available to them, and with a very juicy offer, one they may likely regret refusing to take if eventually, that bet later end up in a loss, and this is mostly with multi-bet, or parlays as we generally refer to it as.

And speaking on op returning back here, understand that newbies arent used to this forum like we are, most of them usually just want to find out the solution to their problem and they are off, like when I first joined this forum, I registered, made a few first posts, and went offline for more than four moment for coming back here, I become constantly active after I've learnt more about the forum, and also had some crypto currencies I was already following here, in those days when ICOs and airdrops were really a thing.

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April 05, 2024, 07:52:21 PM
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Seeing that the OP has been on the forum but hasn't come back through the thread to comment on any of the issues we have raised, I'd bet he's already gone back to play what he won and lost it. Being the first time and having won a total of $1.2, that would be most likely.

He did not get a warm welcome here after showing off his $1 bet Wink
I know that Nigeria isn't the richest country in the world, but come on, it's like a child putting a candy bar on the line.

I'm not saying we all have to bet $1k+ for people to notice, but there are some limits to how low you can get. I could make 10 bets with 5 cents each and then pick the ones that I win and start a thread, but what would be the point of that?

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