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April 01, 2024, 03:14:23 PM
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Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.
As far as I know License and verification are two different things in online casinos.
• Licenses, which we can see in each casino that gets a permit will be published and the agreement can be seen on the casino's website, from where their license was issued.
• Verification, can be described as proof, documents or data from the relevant casino.

Meaning: every license that has been issued, of course the casino has been verified by the authority that issued the license, if it does not pass verification, in my opinion the casino cannot operate, that is as far as I know.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?
No, because we know the frequency of each casino that operates, whether it is regulated or not, that's another issue, maybe it's not our business to know that, the point is that the casino is fair and responsible, that's better.

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
Not really, a license is not to prevent fraud, as I said above, it 'PERMITS' fraud to occur outside of the license, if the authority that issued the license gets complaints and a lot of evidence that the casino in question is cheating, Maybe the action taken is only terminating the license, not giving permission to operate, of course it is not related to fraud.

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April 01, 2024, 03:31:30 PM
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Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.
Most gamblers don't concern themselves with trying to verify the casino they play in before they start playing in a casino. If it is the most popular casino around them, they are usually influenced by the crowd to gamble there. Some gamblers gamble more in a casino from recommendation, than from personal research.

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
The thing remains that we can never always fully trust any kind of proof that will be tendered, it can be manipulated, or the casino may even change in behavior after a while of acting good and getting all the customers.

Do not get relaxed gambling in a casino. follow up the news with them, so that you will be amongst the first people to notice if they start giving too many problems to too many customers.

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April 01, 2024, 03:36:59 PM
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It is true that it may be difficult for us to see evidence that the casino platform is truly regulated, but even so, that is not a reason for us to suspect whether the casino platform is truly regulated or not. As long as they include an image that references their license code and we can check it on the regulatory website, then I think it's pretty trustworthy. And it can also be strengthened by people's reviews and other users' experiences when using the platform - and that is more than enough for me.

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April 01, 2024, 04:29:26 PM
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Licenses and regulations are created as a process to verify the legitimacy of a company. For companies that tend to manage money rather than goods, a license is very necessary to ensure that money from users/customers is safe and to ensure company able to pay if users withdraw money and to guarantee company does not commit fraud. In gambling, a license is needed to prevent scams and also to minimize fraud from providers. Licensing cannot prevent it 100% from scam, but at least users will be safer using licensed services.

Thats right, it is better to play at a casino with license, even though it doesnt mean that a legal casino won't commit scams.
With a license, the casino owner is not anonymous and unlike illegal casinos where they can just disappear to avoid legal action.

Another example,
When gamblers have problems with an online casino, they will usually report it to Casinoguru or Askgambler.
Casinoguru and Askgambler usually refuse to intervene if the issue is related with illegal/unlicensed casino.


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April 01, 2024, 04:36:30 PM
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

If there should be any crypto online gambling casino and they proof to us they have all license required and everything happened to be fake, then there are means in which we may go in identifying and confirming for their registration genuity, if they are truly right or giving a fake tender on their license approval, i see no reason a well-established platform will go in for presenting fake documents, moreover, not all gamblers were also interested on making research and findings whether they are real or fake, all we care is about what they offers and how reliable they could be.

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April 01, 2024, 04:41:17 PM
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
To be honest, I've never really had any problems with online casinos not proofing that they are regulated, in fact, are they even supposed to prove that? What different does or will it make?
The thing is, even the casinos providing proof that they are regulated can still be a lie, why? Because any type of document can still be forged, and besides, what about the crypto currency exchanges?, they all claim to be regulated but how many of them have proven that?

I personally don't really give or pay attention to such things because even a scam casino can come up and claim to be regulated, and provide fake and forged document to make potential victims believe their claim, and at the end of the day, the casino will still scam their victims without looking back.
What i believe is the real deal for us here is, it's important for us to always choose to gamble on casinos that have been running for a very long time and very successful too, and have gained a very good reputation and trustworthiness, this way, one doesnt have to worry about the casino proofing their legitimacy and so on.

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April 01, 2024, 04:47:38 PM
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
Never had thoughts of it. When I'm looking for a platform or gambling site to be more specific, I only engage with small amounts for the whole month, although I am not a heavy bettor in the first place. If things are fine then I'd just continue and with this, if ever I m in doubt of their credibility I could leave anytime I want. If I would ever be engaging huge amount of money then I'd choose those which are known by many and not those which are just newly operated. If you're in doubt then move to other platforms. As far as I know they don't usually publish their registration number or ID in their platform. Well, ofcourse it would somewhat increase the trust of players on their site however, registered or not, if they have the motive to do things which I doubt they would be too reckless to catch the attention of public, then they would regardless if they are registered or not. This is why I seek for a platforms social proofing and reputation more than with numbers and papers that could be easily tampered.

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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

That's a good question. I guess most of the people don't bother to go and find out if the gambling site they gamble on is legit or not.
Even I haven't made such efforts to verify the gambling site. I just prefer to gamble on sites which have a good reputation.
I consider reputation to be the most important factor for a site to rely on.

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Licensed casinos provide the license number and reference to be verified in the original county website where you can easily put that reference and check if that casino is really licensed with the original link to direct you to the casino website and not a stolen name as well, it’s easy for any other scam casinos to fake being licensed but when it comes to verifying, nobody can fake a license inside the government license checker, as the information there are only for those who have purchased and paid the fees.

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

That’s not the only issue, everyone and every player now can verify the license provided by the casino if it’s real or fake, the bigger issue and from what I have observed is many casinos running with valid licenses, still scam people without consequences. A proof of license is not enough to prevent scam casinos in my opinion.

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Licensed casinos provide the license number and reference to be verified in the original county website where you can easily put that reference and check if that casino is really licensed with the original link to direct you to the casino website and not a stolen name as well, it’s easy for any other scam casinos to fake being licensed but when it comes to verifying, nobody can fake a license inside the government license checker, as the information there are only for those who have purchased and paid the fees.

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

Most licensed casinos have their clickable gambling license logo on their page, where it will direct you to the licensing site and see if it is indeed legit/valid license. If not, you can do what GxSTxV has suggested above.

Now, if you have qualms in using the casino, despite of its license, you can also check its reputation among the community. In this board or the gambling board itself can very well give you idea if the casino is reputable or not. That is, if you are playing on a casino that can be found in the forum. So even if the casino has no license or not, you can still check if the casino is worth trying or checking out. There are still several casinos here found in the forum that operate without license, and yet they still have loyal patrons on their site.

That’s not the only issue, everyone and every player now can verify the license provided by the casino if it’s real or fake, the bigger issue and from what I have observed is many casinos running with valid licenses, still scam people without consequences. A proof of license is not enough to prevent scam casinos in my opinion.

That is actually true, there are still licensed casinos and yet, it doesn't stop them from screwing their players by not releasing their winnings or by freezing their account for no valid reason. Do take note, how many players have you really read or seen that actually reported a casino or gambling site to the licensing authority? And for sure, no one yet. For now, license logo is just like an added assurance to the players that they are running legit but not an ultimate feature that will tell the credibility of the gambling site.

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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
I usually go with trust and using common sense. If i really am not able to figure out if the casino is legit or not, i rather not use it, but it's not like i will be hunting for proof and contacting the companies that gave the licence and double check via them that they indeed are regulated.

If the site looks reputable enough and ToS is making sense, and top of that there are no huge number of users that complain about it in public forums, i risk it and trust them. As i don't see why it would be up to me to have any extra stress by using them while not trusting them.

But then again i am not playing with any life changing amounts that would require it. And i have been in this space from 2014 so i am familiar with working without any trust. Any casino these days beats legitimacy of sites from those times. They basically operated on trust, and regulations were frowned on. But if i find anything sketchy from a casino, or if they lack quality and professionality, i'll just stop using them. One place that i left that seemed like a scam just changed their name, probably because of all the bad rep and other one i left is still operating but i am waiting for an exit scam based on some lie at any moment.

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Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
I don't care much about whether I can verify the licence of a casino or not most of the time. Where I focus more is whether the casino is offering the kind of quality service that they offer and how successful people who gamble with them have been able to win games and make withdrawals without any problem. These are the areas that I pay attention to very well.
 
On the aspect of whether scams will reduce if the number of licenced casinos is made public, to me, the thing might even promote more scams as people might pay less attention to things they should have taken very seriously as a result of trusting the licencing authority to do the right thing. Those people can use fake identities to make their verifications, and you never can tell. A lot of things are happening these days online.

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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
You don't know exactly what happens inside the house, you just know what you see from the outside. We can't be 100% sure whether casinos tell the truth or lie to us but I know that in some countries gambling is very regulated and even online casinos are often audited. The government sends people to audit their software and hardware to check for fairness. I don't know if that happens in crypto casinos that have Curacao licenses but there is another trick that will help you to have a good and fair gambling experience: Stick with casinos that are popular on this forum. If you see a casino on this forum that is popular, has a positive trust rating and is active on this forum, then stick with that casino, there are many crypto casinos that you can trust with a blind eye.

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April 01, 2024, 06:26:01 PM
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

That's a good question. I guess most of the people don't bother to go and find out if the gambling site they gamble on is legit or not.
Even I haven't made such efforts to verify the gambling site. I just prefer to gamble on sites which have a good reputation.
I consider reputation to be the most important factor for a site to rely on.
Yes, most gamblers only want an online gambling site that has a good reputation, in my opinion that is enough. And also having good reviews can help ensure that the site is really good, and I think those two factors are the most important.
Actually, to ensure whether the online gambling site is licensed
Whether it is legal or not is actually easy if we really want to do it. And we can visit the gambling authority site that issues the license and look for the name of the online casino site that we want to use, whether it is legal or not. But most gamblers don't want that, and they just want a reputable online gambling site that is enough.

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April 01, 2024, 09:18:45 PM
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Showing a legal proof of registration and regulations is a very important element in the online casino games, that any gambler must put it into consideration if he wants to be on the safer side.
Most casino site has fraudulent practices where by they operate In such a way that you will never win. They determine the outcome to always be against the player where by enriching themselves.

So it should be a thing of consideration to know how the game is been regulated so you don't waste your hard earned money to a scam casino site. They only play with your mindset and emotions making you think that you will only be lucky after a hundred tries.


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April 01, 2024, 09:36:09 PM
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

I don't use a casino that is not use by many people. When u see a casino is popular, their must be a unique reason why people use it and from their, I go over their footer to check if they have the licnence print on them, most casino that are licensed don't joke with their licencd. They make sure to make it public and how do you verify if their license is real, just head over to the websites that issue licensing, you can input the registration number and see for yourself if they are real and in some cases you can contact the agency to verify if the are real, this way yiu can clear the doubt.

I hope you know that a casino can be licensed and yet they wouldn't have good reputation, they will be freezing customers fund and doing some shady deals under the ground and you might not even be able to speak up. There was this casino that use to do something ugly like that, they called them 1xbit, a lot of complaints from customer and the casino claim to be registered.

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April 01, 2024, 11:21:59 PM
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We all know here that there are ways to verify the authenticity of a license, the casino will not put its reputation in trouble just by faking the certificate and trying to fool the community.

Here is the tutorial on how to verify and validate a Curacao license if the method is not working in a platform then there's a possibility that the platform does not have a license at all and just faking it.
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We all know here that there are ways to verify the authenticity of a license, the casino will not put its reputation in trouble just by faking the certificate and trying to fool the community.
I love the optimism but you don't have the depth of understanding how malicious a person can be just to make money, people are faking a lot of things every now and then, what's a fake license to them but just another gig to prey upon innocent people. Picture this, if you're that person that owns an illegal(unlicensed) casino and you can get away with it, you'd be doing all the work to make sure you make the most out of it right? Pretty sure that you're going to be doing that, no way that you'd just let that kind of thing slide.

Lack of proof is definitely a red flag for me in a casino but it's difficult to not show your license as a casino because some of the players would be asking and most of the time it's easy to show it in your FAQ or About page so not showing them is a bit counterintuitive to do so.

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I hope you know that a casino can be licensed and yet they wouldn't have good reputation, they will be freezing customers fund and doing some shady deals under the ground and you might not even be able to speak up. There was this casino that use to do something ugly like that, they called them 1xbit, a lot of complaints from customer and the casino claim to be registered.


The license is good but it's not the right parameters that should show how trusted one casino is, I'll still go for players' feedback, and complaints that are resolved, and community interaction.

1xbit is one casino that uses the license to its advantage to scam people you are looking in the wrong direction if you just look at the license and entice you sign up and play, you have to be good at research to be able to play at the right casino and license is not everything.


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