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April 02, 2024, 03:41:44 PM
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I think there whitepager or light paper fully explain brief history about casinos, most times if you are not careful you would not find time to monitor. -snip- This was what happened during the ICO, IEO and IDO dead using it to scammed investors and made away with there heart earned money.
Are you referring to the same whitepaper/lightpaper that an ICO project used to market themselves back in 2017/18? Which casino does that? I never heard of one unless they're launching their own token (which is basically an ICO too). Some of them make ANN threads, which is common practice in this forum. I don't think it is similar to ICO and its derivative since you don't necessarily have to buy tokens or spend money to check whether they are running a good business or not.

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April 02, 2024, 04:02:31 PM
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Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

I think many of them use their license to attract people, most often they post about this license on their social media page, like in X platform for example, you will see it in their Bio Description and also places like Instagram, it's easy to sort them out. The only challenge here is that the casino might be individually difficult to verify but I think a casino cannot be bold to post about their license online without unless they want to get into another problem.

I have not verify a license before but Google is a big place to have a solution for that. If truly they are license, their is an agency that give them that number online, you can easily verify that from the official website to know about the company. Mostly I think licensing platforms are free to access by anyone to verify genuine status of a company or a product.

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April 02, 2024, 04:13:42 PM
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Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Or maybe we should also consider some instances whereby you could have made your necessary verifications to ascertain your fact about a particular gambling casino to later discover that they are not up to the required standard for you to entrust your fund with them, you cant use the license approval for operation as a proof on what to take in trusting a gambling platform, though it can only be part of the requirement we may choose to use as criteria's in selecting for the best.
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April 03, 2024, 04:36:50 AM
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Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?
For regular players like us, it is very difficult to ask the casino to prove whether they have an operating license or not. There are dozens of players, they can't vouch for each one. And do you know whether the documents they show you are legitimate or not? We can only check ourselves through the official websites of licensing regulators. Each country has a specific authority that regulates the licensing of online casinos. For example, in the UK it is the Gaming Classification Authority that manages the licensing and regulation of online casinos. Besides, reading reviews and feedback from previous players can help you get an overview of that casino.
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Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
Having an operating license can partially reduce scams. However, casinos have many ways to circumvent the law as well as sophisticated tricks to openly cheat that you cannot predict. Therefore, whether or not there is an operating license is only a small factor in assessing the reputation of a casino. The most objective assessment should mostly come from real players.
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April 03, 2024, 11:33:15 AM
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
I don't really care about all that because as long as what I use is trusted casino that clearly has an official license then that is more than enough, with regard to whether the gambling site is regulated or not, all of that can clearly be answered by the license they use.
Moreover, each gambling site will clearly provide series of proof of the license used and is usually listed very clearly at the bottom of the initial page, there we will see and be able to read it directly and can check for more detailed information.

No, license will never be guarantee that gambling site will not commit fraud because there are several gambling sites that have been licensed but are still scam gambling sites and have harmed many gamblers.
But at least having license can provide confidence that the chances of fraud or scams occurring are much smaller, moreover we can see how trusted and active customers are on gambling sites.
If gambling site is officially licensed with high trust and there are lots of active customers then it is clear that it is an example of gambling site that can be relied on.

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April 03, 2024, 12:03:21 PM
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It is true that it may be difficult for us to see evidence that the casino platform is truly regulated, but even so, that is not a reason for us to suspect whether the casino platform is truly regulated or not. As long as they include an image that references their license code and we can check it on the regulatory website, then I think it's pretty trustworthy. And it can also be strengthened by people's reviews and other users' experiences when using the platform - and that is more than enough for me.
It is not difficult if you want to know if a casino or gambling center is well registered or licensed because, if you go through their website you will surely find all their documents that guarantee that the casino or gambling center is legal.

If you can watch some casino or gambling center very well, you will discover that some people prefer to gamble in some casinos or gambling center because, all the details they want to know about the casinos or gambling center has be confirmed that the casino or gambling center is well registered from their country and their government is fully aware about such casinos or gambling center.

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As long as the site doesn't have problems with withdrawing money and there are no problems with the gambling site, I don't care whether the gambling site has been verified or not, but what is clear is that I always use casinos that have a good reputation so that we don't take any risks. Indeed there are several casinos that do it can lead to fraud if we are not careful, but if we have found a trusted site and are confident in it, we don't need to change sites anymore rather than having to risk losing the money we save at the casino.



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April 03, 2024, 01:32:34 PM
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?
Actually if a casino can prove of being licensed then most likely there's a less chance of been scammed by such a casino because they would have their reputation at stake and tracking them down becomes easy because I'm sure they don't license a faceless business even away from the casinos, if they are license it then . means they are regulated and for every wrong or inappropriate actions they take they could be reported to the regulating body who can actually take actions on them.

In my country of residence, there's actually ba regulator commission In charge of regulating the activities of casinos and making sure they are not fraudulent and are able bro protect the citizens away from been victims of such fraudulent casinos, they have a website where they put out the names of licensed casinos so if you check and couldn't find the name of that which you are using then you can be sure you are Gambling at your risk.

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April 03, 2024, 01:54:57 PM
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Nowadays, many scams and frauds are encountered in the online world and many people fall for these scams without checking. When creating an online casino platform it is never possible to create a casino without government permission from a country, even though many casinos are currently created only illegally. When you deposit your money in casinos that are not licensed and proven by the government, you will surely face many problems later on. So when you play you must check whether the casino is government approved or you must see how good the rating of that platform is. Moreover, it is most important for you to check the people who are in control of the casino and how good the casino is and how many facilities it offers. To verify, you must check their social media and their road maps and check whether they are approved or not. Only if you see everything right then you can go for betting in that casino and get benefits there.

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I think it’s always something to be concerned about about in some way shape or form. I think if you weren’t concerned about these types of things than there might be something a bit wrong with one’s approach to online gambling. But the main thing for me is proven experience/time. A lot of these casinos have been operating for many years with very few complaints and to me that speaks volumes.

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To verify, you must check their social media and their road maps and check whether they are approved or not. Only if you see everything right then you can go for betting in that casino and get benefits there.
Approved by who? The government? I don't recall seeing a casino platform that publishes a roadmap with government approval tbh. Not to mention it is rare for a casino to have a roadmap unless they launch with a token so they need to find how to utilize that token for their platform. Usually, product announcements just happen with a teaser or some sort instead of a roadmap. At least that is what I saw from some ann threads posted on this forum.

In my country of residence, there's actually ba regulator commission In charge of regulating the activities of casinos and making sure they are not fraudulent and are able bro protect the citizens away from been victims of such fraudulent casinos, they have a website where they put out the names of licensed casinos so if you check and couldn't find the name of that which you are using then you can be sure you are Gambling at your risk.
Do they allow overseas businesses to register too, or is it limited to national business? I'd say that the risk here still depends on your chosen platform. Maybe they registered in another country but you can ask for legal help if trouble arises, or just an illegal casino where they use a random building on some fake island as a headquarters. But yeah, it is gambling at your own risk.

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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Usually, most of these gambling websites have a text at the bottom of the website that mentions about their license and when it is being operated. For example, Rollbit has some information about their license and their address:

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Copyright © 2024 rollbit.com. All rights reserved. Rollbit is a brand name of Bull Gaming N.V. Company Address: Abraham de Veerstraat 9, Willemstad, Curacao. Rollbit is licensed and authorized by the Government of Curaçao and operates under the Master License of Gaming Services Provider, N.V. #365/JAZ
Bull Gaming N.V. payments can be processed by WINGAMING SUPPORT LIMITED (Registration Number HE406701). Company Address: Avlonos, 1, MARIA HOUSE, 1075, Nicosia, Cyprus
Crypto trading is not gambling, and therefore not covered by our gaming license

From this, you can have a glimpse of their license and on how they validly operate. For sure, there may be better ways to confirm such information. The best way to actually confirm this is to directly ask their ANN thread on this forum. But if the gambling company has no registered ANN thread, then I highly suggest that you switch to another platform.

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Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

I do think that there is a correlation between presenting all of your genuine documents upfront to gambling platforms who hide it.

Most of the genuine gambling platforms have information available as soon as you visit their website. Additionally, you can also check their ANN thread in this forum for further information and questions.

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It is true that it may be difficult for us to see evidence that the casino platform is truly regulated, but even so, that is not a reason for us to suspect whether the casino platform is truly regulated or not. As long as they include an image that references their license code and we can check it on the regulatory website, then I think it's pretty trustworthy. And it can also be strengthened by people's reviews and other users' experiences when using the platform - and that is more than enough for me.
It is not difficult if you want to know if a casino or gambling center is well registered or licensed because, if you go through their website you will surely find all their documents that guarantee that the casino or gambling center is legal.

If you can watch some casino or gambling center very well, you will discover that some people prefer to gamble in some casinos or gambling center because, all the details they want to know about the casinos or gambling center has be confirmed that the casino or gambling center is well registered from their country and their government is fully aware about such casinos or gambling center.
Documents isnt everything, reputation is. We do know that those things could be faked out and also its really that impossible that you cant really be able to see yourself about its reputation or
recognition in just basing up into its user base. Also, you could really easily make out some searches in regards about some possible issues or complaints which it might not been resolved.
Its up to you whether you would really be pushing up on playing on a site with less information or cant be able to see any feedbacks.

Just like on what been said by others is that if you are really that interested on playing on a certain site. Then, you could really be always having that free posting or asking
here on the community on which we know that its always best on seeing and following on what the community is been suggesting, which of course you would really be
needing to see whether those recommendations are viable or not. It would really be just that depending on you.

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April 03, 2024, 04:41:01 PM
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

That's a good question. I guess most of the people don't bother to go and find out if the gambling site they gamble on is legit or not.
Even I haven't made such efforts to verify the gambling site. I just prefer to gamble on sites which have a good reputation.
I consider reputation to be the most important factor for a site to rely on.
Yes, most gamblers only want an online gambling site that has a good reputation, in my opinion that is enough. And also having good reviews can help ensure that the site is really good, and I think those two factors are the most important.
Actually, to ensure whether the online gambling site is licensed
Whether it is legal or not is actually easy if we really want to do it. And we can visit the gambling authority site that issues the license and look for the name of the online casino site that we want to use, whether it is legal or not. But most gamblers don't want that, and they just want a reputable online gambling site that is enough.

If a gambling site has good reputation then it will automatically have good reviews. It need not be two separate things.
Hence a gambling site with good reputation would be the ideal choice for most of the gamblers.
Earning good reputation is a lengthy process of providing good services and user experience to the users.
That itself is a big deal which many sites cannot fulfill.

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April 03, 2024, 05:32:48 PM
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As long as the site doesn't have problems with withdrawing money and there are no problems with the gambling site, I don't care whether the gambling site has been verified or not, but what is clear is that I always use casinos that have a good reputation so that we don't take any risks. Indeed there are several casinos that do it can lead to fraud if we are not careful, but if we have found a trusted site and are confident in it, we don't need to change sites anymore rather than having to risk losing the money we save at the casino.
It would be better if we could avoid the risk if we already know that the site has a problem, because when we gamble on a site that has problems, of course we will not be able to enjoy winnings from the bets we play, of course this will be detrimental to ourselves and Indeed, it would be better for us to continue to trust a site that can make it easier for us to deposit funds or withdraw funds so that we can enjoy the game and have fun, because if we have problems in these two things, of course this will make us feel annoyed when playing it.

I think it’s always something to be concerned about about in some way shape or form. I think if you weren’t concerned about these types of things than there might be something a bit wrong with one’s approach to online gambling. But the main thing for me is proven experience/time. A lot of these casinos have been operating for many years with very few complaints and to me that speaks volumes.
That's right, of course we really need to make sure that the site we play on can pay the winnings that we have gotten and don't let it happen that when we have won they don't pay the winnings that we have gotten and casinos that have been operating for years of course they don't have a bad history and they can always meet the needs of people who want to place bets on their site and make them comfortable choosing to bet on that site.

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Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?
For regular players like us, it is very difficult to ask the casino to prove whether they have an operating license or not. There are dozens of players, they can't vouch for each one. And do you know whether the documents they show you are legitimate or not? We can only check ourselves through the official websites of licensing regulators. Each country has a specific authority that regulates the licensing of online casinos. For example, in the UK it is the Gaming Classification Authority that manages the licensing and regulation of online casinos. Besides, reading reviews and feedback from previous players can help you get an overview of that casino.
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Having an operating license can partially reduce scams. However, casinos have many ways to circumvent the law as well as sophisticated tricks to openly cheat that you cannot predict. Therefore, whether or not there is an operating license is only a small factor in assessing the reputation of a casino. The most objective assessment should mostly come from real players.
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April 04, 2024, 06:49:38 AM
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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

Most crypto casinos have gambling licenses issued in Curacao mostly because they are cheap and the gambling regulations there are extremely liberal(almost non-existent). To be honest, it doesn't matter that much to me, if a casino is licensed or not. Maybe some of the gambling noobs want to gamble on licensed casinos, because this gives them a false sense of security, but I've seen licensed casinos that are really sketchy. I definitely don't think that gambling licenses can reduce the amount of scams in online gambling. Just bet small amounts and gamble for fun, not for chasing big profits.

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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

Most crypto casinos have gambling licenses issued in Curacao mostly because they are cheap and the gambling regulations there are extremely liberal(almost non-existent). To be honest, it doesn't matter that much to me, if a casino is licensed or not. Maybe some of the gambling noobs want to gamble on licensed casinos, because this gives them a false sense of security, but I've seen licensed casinos that are really sketchy. I definitely don't think that gambling licenses can reduce the amount of scams in online gambling. Just bet small amounts and gamble for fun, not for chasing big profits.
Licenses isnt everything in speaking about legitimacy because even despite on having those license but doesnt mean that you are dealing something or in the right place. There would really be those possibilities
that those licensed casinos would really be turning out to be a scam in the end or does depend on what are their intents on which it would really be something that could happen.
Just like on what others been saying that there are  some sites now that having no license but still that mainly been recognized by the whole crypto community on which this one indicates that
licenses isnt 100% an assured factor for you to see up on dealing on the site or something that we can call for it to be legit.

Somehow it would really be that a very common impressions that once a site does have that kind of license which means that they do have some sort of security or feeling of assurance
whenever the site would really be trying out to do bullshit things.  So it would really be just that depending on you on where you would really be sticking up.
On my own preference then i would usually be sticking on where those tons of people do really been hanging out.

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Most online casinos are said to be regulated, they claimed to have a license to operate, but experts claimed that it's stupid if there isn't any evidence of them being regulated.

My question to all of you is ...

Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?

Do you think that if all online casinos can tender some proof of being licensed all it reduce scams in online gambling?

To be honest, I don't really care whether the casino I play at is licensed or not. This is important for some people if they want to try lots of new sites that usually provide big bonuses. But I personally only use one or two sites and I don't like something complicated like creating lots of accounts. One of the casinos I often play at is Duelbits. This is a trusted casino and I have made several withdrawals without any problems. I've also used some other casinos but if it's big money I'll just try playing at Duelbits instead.

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Have you verified that the online casino you are using now is verified? How can you tell that its verified because there is no proof of verified shown to the public.

Also, in any way, does it bother you if you can't be able to figure it out that the casino is regulated or not?
so far I have used several sites on this forum and very rarely try new sites or sites outside this forum even though I can't confirm whether my current favorite casino is truly verified but looking at the huge customer traffic on the one hand it is also running the advertising of the campaign paying large amounts and on time for me was enough to convince me to say that the casino did not have any problems.
Indeed, there may not be any guarantees, but we can all see the popular and biggest casinos here that have been around for a long time, they don't have any problems even though they have never published regarding verification.
maybe I just rely on the reputation of the casinos here to believe that my favorite casino will not commit fraud just to damage its own reputation.

It all comes back to each gambler on how to respond to this matter of license verification because sometimes, even though online sites have been verified, they also make mistakes, destroying their reputation by deceiving customers and most importantly, when it comes to online, nothing is safe except your own self confidence.

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