Conmebol Libertadores 2024

[criptoevangelista]

what is even stranger is that these same players from South America who have been playing in the South American leagues and play in a strangely elegant way in the leagues of their countries and go to Europe, they start to play very well in Europe and even run very. This is something I always ask myself because they don't try very hard in the South American leagues and when they are playing for European teams they play very well. Maybe because in Europe they realize that there are many other good players and if they try hard they can have a lot of fame and money so they try hard to play well. I could be wrong in my way of thinking

I think your way of thinking makes sense, when they reach a European team they are just “one more”, so they have to work hard to have “their place in the sun”, unlike what happens when they are in leagues in their countries of origin, countries where they are already considered stars and most of the time they have no competition... In Europe they have to show their service, otherwise they are left out, unlike what happens in other leagues.

You got both your predictions right, Atlético and Cerro Porteno won 


In today's matches we have Botafogo vs LDU at altitude, I think LDU wins... and also Palmeiras vs Liverpool in São Paulo, I believe Palmeiras will win without any major difficulties....

Any guesses for the other games?

[tg88]

It's been a long time since I watched a Libertadores game, yesterday I watched Estudiantes x Gremio in Group C and what a game it was. It wasn't easy at all, but Gremio won 1-0 away from home and with one player less from the start of the second half and thus remained in contention within the group. Today I intend to watch the Flamengo game.

[criptoevangelista]

It's been a long time since I watched a Libertadores game, yesterday I watched Estudiantes x Gremio in Group C and what a game it was. It wasn't easy at all, but Gremio won 1-0 away from home and with one player less from the start of the second half and thus remained in contention within the group. Today I intend to watch the Flamengo game.

The Libertadores games are very difficult, the teams give their all, especially because a player doing well in this championship can get good contracts, salary increases, everything is possible financially, money moves the world, right? lol

Yesterday Flamengo lost playing in Bolivia... and as always the players complaining about playing at altitude (3600m above sea level), if they had won, would they complain that much?

[rdluffy]

There are 4 Libertadores matches today, take a look at the odds

If you believe in the Brazilian teams, you have a good chance of making some money
I'm thinking of betting on São Paulo and Fluminense to win, but I'm betting low since the Brazilian teams have started very badly in the Libertadores.



Source


Will anyone be placing any bets today?

[swogerino]

It's been a long time since I watched a Libertadores game, yesterday I watched Estudiantes x Gremio in Group C and what a game it was. It wasn't easy at all, but Gremio won 1-0 away from home and with one player less from the start of the second half and thus remained in contention within the group. Today I intend to watch the Flamengo game.

The Libertadores games are very difficult, the teams give their all, especially because a player doing well in this championship can get good contracts, salary increases, everything is possible financially, money moves the world, right? lol

Yesterday Flamengo lost playing in Bolivia... and as always the players complaining about playing at altitude (3600m above sea level), if they had won, would they complain that much?

If they had won I am sure no one would say a thing about such altitude as what is important in the end of the day are the three points.I think Flamengo needs to do better as in the new Serie A in Brazil are looking relatively in good performance and for sure the Brazilian league is of better quality than the Bolivian league.I think it was a surprise result that Flamengo lost and complaining about high altitude is just a justification to them not being able to win the game.

[rdluffy]

If they had won I am sure no one would say a thing about such altitude as what is important in the end of the day are the three points.I think Flamengo needs to do better as in the new Serie A in Brazil are looking relatively in good performance and for sure the Brazilian league is of better quality than the Bolivian league.I think it was a surprise result that Flamengo lost and complaining about high altitude is just a justification to them not being able to win the game.

It's funny because every year we have the same problems hahaha
Look at my thread of Libertadores 2023: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447531.80

The altitude, especially in games in Bolivia, becomes a frequent discussion, and especially for Brazilian teams, since we don't have that kind of terrain here
The Libertadores is very special because of this kind of rivalry, the altitude, the famous Argentinian and Uruguayan "catimba", the crowded La Bombonera (of Boca Juniors), etc.

[boltz]

It's been a long time since I watched a Libertadores game, yesterday I watched Estudiantes x Gremio in Group C and what a game it was. It wasn't easy at all, but Gremio won 1-0 away from home and with one player less from the start of the second half and thus remained in contention within the group. Today I intend to watch the Flamengo game.

The Libertadores games are very difficult, the teams give their all, especially because a player doing well in this championship can get good contracts, salary increases, everything is possible financially, money moves the world, right? lol

Yesterday Flamengo lost playing in Bolivia... and as always the players complaining about playing at altitude (3600m above sea level), if they had won, would they complain that much?

I think it's very hard to predict this games while they are in group stages but yesterday Bolivar were favorites against Flamengo and they won. I agree with altitude when you play football as it's not great at all to to have fresh air , especially when you're not used to it. However ,I do enjoy watching this games with native commentary as that is the way you can feel the true South American football passion and I love when they scream "goal" for more than 40 seconds 

[tg88]

There are 4 Libertadores matches today, take a look at the odds

Today I was thinking about watching the international game for the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, but I looked at the time the game was going to take place and I almost couldn't believe it... It will start at 11pm. There will be time to watch the Libertadores games.

Does anyone know if there is a topic about the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, I'm thinking about creating one.

[alegotardo]

I'm very late here, I only just saw this thread.

The reason for this is because I'm not really following this championship even though I really like football.... last year Internacional invested a lot of money in trying to be champions, they defeated important opponents but ended up losing to a Brazilian team in an incomprehensible way.
This year, he didn't even qualify for the Libertadores

Today I was thinking about watching the international game for the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, but I looked at the time the game was going to take place and I almost couldn't believe it... It will start at 11pm. There will be time to watch the Libertadores games.

Does anyone know if there is a topic about the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, I'm thinking about creating one.

Exactly!!!!
I'm following this championship and I believe we will have another victory here. But, that's a topic for another topic (is there a topic about Sul-Amerciana here?).

Ah... I've been reading that this year Conmebol will pay the biggest prize in the world for a competitive tournament... no less than US$ 23,000,000

Good luck to everyone!

[rdluffy]

There are 4 Libertadores matches today, take a look at the odds

Today I was thinking about watching the international game for the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, but I looked at the time the game was going to take place and I almost couldn't believe it... It will start at 11pm. There will be time to watch the Libertadores games.

Does anyone know if there is a topic about the CONMEBOL Sudamericana cup, I'm thinking about creating one.

If you create the thread, I'll participate
It's the only international competition Corinthians will participate in (and lose a lot of games) this year, so I'll bet against my own team and win some money hehehehe

Don't forget to let us know here if you create the thread


Yesterday I bet on São Paulo and Fluminense
I lost the Fluminense bet, but won the São Paulo one. I ended up with practically the same amount of money, at least I didn't lose 

[Slow death]

BOLÍVAR 2 - 1 FLAMENGO

As expected from Flamengo, they lost and they always use something to justify the defeat, and this time they blamed the altitude. as if that would be a convincing justification. It is an undeniable fact that Flamengo is not performing well in this competition, in 3 games they only had 1 win, 1 draw and 1 defeat. I don't know what Flamengo's coach is thinking. In Brazil they played 3 games in which they won 2 games and drew 1 game and are currently in second place. but in 3 games they only managed to score 4 goals in the Brazilian league and conceded 2 goals. It's not a good performance for a team that wants to become champions.

In Brasileirao's last game they managed to draw with Palmeiras, but a victory would have been the best thing, because Palmeiras is a team that can start badly in the league, they can even perform poorly in many of the first games, but after the middle During the season they start to play well and become champions, which is why the sooner Flamengo distances itself from Palmeiras, beats Palmeiras, the better for Flamengo. Something funny I saw in this game between Flamengo and Bolivar was this:



If Flamengo's goalkeeper hadn't fallen early, then he would have had a better chance of saving that ball. but unfortunately he couldn't save that ball. Will Flamengo really be able to get far in this competition?

[criptoevangelista]

BOLÍVAR 2 - 1 FLAMENGO

As expected from Flamengo, they lost and they always use something to justify the defeat, and this time they blamed the altitude. as if that would be a convincing justification. It is an undeniable fact that Flamengo is not performing well in this competition, in 3 games they only had 1 win, 1 draw and 1 defeat. I don't know what Flamengo's coach is thinking. In Brazil they played 3 games in which they won 2 games and drew 1 game and are currently in second place. but in 3 games they only managed to score 4 goals in the Brazilian league and conceded 2 goals. It's not a good performance for a team that wants to become champions.

In Brasileirao's last game they managed to draw with Palmeiras, but a victory would have been the best thing, because Palmeiras is a team that can start badly in the league, they can even perform poorly in many of the first games, but after the middle During the season they start to play well and become champions, which is why the sooner Flamengo distances itself from Palmeiras, beats Palmeiras, the better for Flamengo. Something funny I saw in this game between Flamengo and Bolivar was this:



If Flamengo's goalkeeper hadn't fallen early, then he would have had a better chance of saving that ball. but unfortunately he couldn't save that ball. Will Flamengo really be able to get far in this competition?

It's true, Flamengo isn't playing like a team that wants to be champions plays.

The complaint about altitude is a lame excuse. If the team had won, would they talk about altitude? I don't think so, it's another justification without credibility.

Did this Flamengo goalkeeper try to guess the move? weird, right? he fell too early instead of advancing a little to close the attacker's angle... Simply horrible, I think if I had been there I would have been able to save that shot.

[LUCKMCFLY]

BOLÍVAR 2 - 1 FLAMENGO

As expected from Flamengo, they lost and they always use something to justify the defeat, and this time they blamed the altitude. as if that would be a convincing justification. It is an undeniable fact that Flamengo is not performing well in this competition, in 3 games they only had 1 win, 1 draw and 1 defeat. I don't know what Flamengo's coach is thinking. In Brazil they played 3 games in which they won 2 games and drew 1 game and are currently in second place. but in 3 games they only managed to score 4 goals in the Brazilian league and conceded 2 goals. It's not a good performance for a team that wants to become champions.

In Brasileirao's last game they managed to draw with Palmeiras, but a victory would have been the best thing, because Palmeiras is a team that can start badly in the league, they can even perform poorly in many of the first games, but after the middle During the season they start to play well and become champions, which is why the sooner Flamengo distances itself from Palmeiras, beats Palmeiras, the better for Flamengo. Something funny I saw in this game between Flamengo and Bolivar was this:



If Flamengo's goalkeeper hadn't fallen early, then he would have had a better chance of saving that ball. but unfortunately he couldn't save that ball. Will Flamengo really be able to get far in this competition?

It is very strange what the goalkeeper did, it could also be that the goalkeeper was filled with a lot of nerves and fell, it is something that can happen, but at the level of a Copa Libertadores de América, type of nerves, because it was not seen that It may have been a slip, sometimes goalkeepers can suffer from things like this, maybe things can be very different in a game like this, Flamenco is a team that is one of the best clubs in Brazil, they should not fail, But considering that we are human, nervousness, all this influences, but the shot that the goalkeeper actually gave looked very bad.

[criptoevangelista]

BOLÍVAR 2 - 1 FLAMENGO

~snip~

It is very strange what the goalkeeper did, it could also be that the goalkeeper was filled with a lot of nerves and fell, it is something that can happen, but at the level of a Copa Libertadores de América, type of nerves, because it was not seen that It may have been a slip, sometimes goalkeepers can suffer from things like this, maybe things can be very different in a game like this, Flamenco is a team that is one of the best clubs in Brazil, they should not fail, But considering that we are human, nervousness, all this influences, but the shot that the goalkeeper actually gave looked very bad.

If it were a team of young people, full of unknown players at the beginning of their careers, we could even consider it nervous, but this Flamengo team is mostly made up of very experienced players, including their coach is very experienced, he was the coach of the Brazilian team during the last world cup. What's missing there is tactical adjustment, Flamengo has been playing very inconsistently.

[LUCKMCFLY]

If it were a team of young people, full of unknown players at the beginning of their careers, we could even consider it nervous, but this Flamengo team is mostly made up of very experienced players, including their coach is very experienced, he was the coach of the Brazilian team during the last world cup. What's missing there is tactical adjustment, Flamengo has been playing very inconsistently.

I have always thought that in Flamengo things are getting into crisis like this because it is normal sometimes for teams to have that happen , because lately what they Showed in the Copa Libertadores was very good, in fact this team has given a lot of fight to a Santos, a Palmeiras that wow is on another level.

Personally, I like these teams because they Show happy football, the truth is that the Brazilian technique is very good, I have always said one thing, when we look for strong and beautiful emotions we should not hesitate, we have to look at how these teams play, Brazilian teams, I don't know if you remember when Neymar played for Santos, it was another level, when they had to play against Barcelona in the Intercontinental they lost, but that was when Ney pushed himself towards European Football ,  but in reality Brazil is the school.

[criptoevangelista]

If it were a team of young people, full of unknown players at the beginning of their careers, we could even consider it nervous, but this Flamengo team is mostly made up of very experienced players, including their coach is very experienced, he was the coach of the Brazilian team during the last world cup. What's missing there is tactical adjustment, Flamengo has been playing very inconsistently.

I have always thought that in Flamengo things are getting into crisis like this because it is normal sometimes for teams to have that happen , because lately what they Showed in the Copa Libertadores was very good, in fact this team has given a lot of fight to a Santos, a Palmeiras that wow is on another level.

Personally, I like these teams because they Show happy football, the truth is that the Brazilian technique is very good, I have always said one thing, when we look for strong and beautiful emotions we should not hesitate, we have to look at how these teams play, Brazilian teams, I don't know if you remember when Neymar played for Santos, it was another level, when they had to play against Barcelona in the Intercontinental they lost, but that was when Ney pushed himself towards European Football ,  but in reality Brazil is the school.

I don't know if the future holds anything good for Brazil regarding football... in the past, 10, 15 years ago it was common to see children on the streets playing football, various talents were born there, skills were trained from a very young age during these matches on the street... nowadays with the advancement of the internet, most children and young people just want to be on the internet... leaving aside typical games, like playing ball and playing in the street... It will become increasingly rare to appear outstanding players in Brazil.

I don't know if I'm too pessimistic... but that's the only thing I can see about it

[boltz]

If it were a team of young people, full of unknown players at the beginning of their careers, we could even consider it nervous, but this Flamengo team is mostly made up of very experienced players, including their coach is very experienced, he was the coach of the Brazilian team during the last world cup. What's missing there is tactical adjustment, Flamengo has been playing very inconsistently.

I have always thought that in Flamengo things are getting into crisis like this because it is normal sometimes for teams to have that happen , because lately what they Showed in the Copa Libertadores was very good, in fact this team has given a lot of fight to a Santos, a Palmeiras that wow is on another level.

Personally, I like these teams because they Show happy football, the truth is that the Brazilian technique is very good, I have always said one thing, when we look for strong and beautiful emotions we should not hesitate, we have to look at how these teams play, Brazilian teams, I don't know if you remember when Neymar played for Santos, it was another level, when they had to play against Barcelona in the Intercontinental they lost, but that was when Ney pushed himself towards European Football ,  but in reality Brazil is the school.

I don't know if the future holds anything good for Brazil regarding football... in the past, 10, 15 years ago it was common to see children on the streets playing football, various talents were born there, skills were trained from a very young age during these matches on the street... nowadays with the advancement of the internet, most children and young people just want to be on the internet... leaving aside typical games, like playing ball and playing in the street... It will become increasingly rare to appear outstanding players in Brazil.

I don't know if I'm too pessimistic... but that's the only thing I can see about it

When it comes to club , I don't see Brazil having a another crazy run to win Liberdatores cup year after year and that is because more and more players are leaving for Europe club at a very early age and that will automatically affect their clubs performance. However , when it comes to international football , Brazill will always be top3 and always one of the favorites to win World Cup but also Copa America and personally , I'm a huge Brazilian fan when they play at world cup and maybe with a bit of luck we can win at USA 2026 

[LUCKMCFLY]

If it were a team of young people, full of unknown players at the beginning of their careers, we could even consider it nervous, but this Flamengo team is mostly made up of very experienced players, including their coach is very experienced, he was the coach of the Brazilian team during the last world cup. What's missing there is tactical adjustment, Flamengo has been playing very inconsistently.

I have always thought that in Flamengo things are getting into crisis like this because it is normal sometimes for teams to have that happen , because lately what they Showed in the Copa Libertadores was very good, in fact this team has given a lot of fight to a Santos, a Palmeiras that wow is on another level.

Personally, I like these teams because they Show happy football, the truth is that the Brazilian technique is very good, I have always said one thing, when we look for strong and beautiful emotions we should not hesitate, we have to look at how these teams play, Brazilian teams, I don't know if you remember when Neymar played for Santos, it was another level, when they had to play against Barcelona in the Intercontinental they lost, but that was when Ney pushed himself towards European Football ,  but in reality Brazil is the school.

I don't know if the future holds anything good for Brazil regarding football... in the past, 10, 15 years ago it was common to see children on the streets playing football, various talents were born there, skills were trained from a very young age during these matches on the street... nowadays with the advancement of the internet, most children and young people just want to be on the internet... leaving aside typical games, like playing ball and playing in the street... It will become increasingly rare to appear outstanding players in Brazil.

I don't know if I'm too pessimistic... but that's the only thing I can see about it

When it comes to club , I don't see Brazil having a another crazy run to win Liberdatores cup year after year and that is because more and more players are leaving for Europe club at a very early age and that will automatically affect their clubs performance. However , when it comes to international football , Brazill will always be top3 and always one of the favorites to win World Cup but also Copa America and personally , I'm a huge Brazilian fan when they play at world cup and maybe with a bit of luck we can win at USA 2026 

Well, about the replacement generation of Brazil, well, if they are in that line, they should do something to motivate the children, well, in fact, Antony who plays for Man United is one of them who came out of the favelas and is a great example For many then in this order of ideas things should be like this, if Brazil starts looking for children they should encourage them, the thing about social networks, telephones is not only in Brazil, I think that happens in all countries in the world . , but Brazil, due to pure genetics, its players are very good, so with the passage of time I believe that apart from the protection that recruitment campaigns must carry out for them, Brazil will surely recover from the time it spent in the first phase of the USA 2026 qualifiers, It is a team that will always give its best and give its best, tremendous players who have wow, there is no doubt about that.

[criptoevangelista]

If it were a team of young people, full of unknown players at the beginning of their careers, we could even consider it nervous, but this Flamengo team is mostly made up of very experienced players, including their coach is very experienced, he was the coach of the Brazilian team during the last world cup. What's missing there is tactical adjustment, Flamengo has been playing very inconsistently.

I have always thought that in Flamengo things are getting into crisis like this because it is normal sometimes for teams to have that happen , because lately what they Showed in the Copa Libertadores was very good, in fact this team has given a lot of fight to a Santos, a Palmeiras that wow is on another level.

Personally, I like these teams because they Show happy football, the truth is that the Brazilian technique is very good, I have always said one thing, when we look for strong and beautiful emotions we should not hesitate, we have to look at how these teams play, Brazilian teams, I don't know if you remember when Neymar played for Santos, it was another level, when they had to play against Barcelona in the Intercontinental they lost, but that was when Ney pushed himself towards European Football ,  but in reality Brazil is the school.

I don't know if the future holds anything good for Brazil regarding football... in the past, 10, 15 years ago it was common to see children on the streets playing football, various talents were born there, skills were trained from a very young age during these matches on the street... nowadays with the advancement of the internet, most children and young people just want to be on the internet... leaving aside typical games, like playing ball and playing in the street... It will become increasingly rare to appear outstanding players in Brazil.

I don't know if I'm too pessimistic... but that's the only thing I can see about it

When it comes to club , I don't see Brazil having a another crazy run to win Liberdatores cup year after year and that is because more and more players are leaving for Europe club at a very early age and that will automatically affect their clubs performance. However , when it comes to international football , Brazill will always be top3 and always one of the favorites to win World Cup but also Copa America and personally , I'm a huge Brazilian fan when they play at world cup and maybe with a bit of luck we can win at USA 2026 

Well, about the replacement generation of Brazil, well, if they are in that line, they should do something to motivate the children, well, in fact, Antony who plays for Man United is one of them who came out of the favelas and is a great example For many then in this order of ideas things should be like this, if Brazil starts looking for children they should encourage them, the thing about social networks, telephones is not only in Brazil, I think that happens in all countries in the world . , but Brazil, due to pure genetics, its players are very good, so with the passage of time I believe that apart from the protection that recruitment campaigns must carry out for them, Brazil will surely recover from the time it spent in the first phase of the USA 2026 qualifiers, It is a team that will always give its best and give its best, tremendous players who have wow, there is no doubt about that.

What has happened to encourage this is the opening of football schools linked to clubs, but I don't know if the children's interest is still the same as it used to be.

Perhaps from childhood, sports could be encouraged more because what currently happens in schools are simple weekly physical education classes, but it is still not enough...

But perhaps there is still hope, in the Copa São Paulo de Juniores, the annual youth tournament, there are always some players with a lot of potential.

[criptoevangelista]

Another shame for Flamengo, this time losing to Palestino. Flamengo is at risk of being eliminated in the next round...

What catches my attention is this goalkeeper, who once again fails in a move, he didn't even jump to try to save the shot that resulted in the goal, he tried to do the famous "defend with his eyes"... a total shame. As a Flamengo fan, I have already lost hope in this team in the Copa Libertadores.

Here's a video with the best moments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp_4Egqy7OE