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April 03, 2024, 05:23:56 AM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
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April 03, 2024, 06:40:31 AM
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If it is land based casinos, socialization is among the reasons you will see rich men that are gambling. But some rich people also prefer online gambling and that can not just be because of socialization if the rich person only prefer to gamble online and prefer privacy. A rich person that is addicted to going is because he is not able to discipline himself and such addiction is not good at all because it is possible for a rich man to become poor.

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April 03, 2024, 07:10:22 AM
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I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
To add to Oshosondy, gambling is a social activity and a way of life for the rich and wealthy. Did you know that there are exclusive land based casinos, private gaming clubs, and invitation-only events only for the wealthy. Some example of these exclusive casinos are Venetian Macao – Macau, Casino de Monte Carlo – Monaco, The Kurhaus of Baden-Baden – Germany.  And these type environments has been modified so that they can participate in various forms of gambling while socializing and networking with their peers. In some of these gambling venues, business deals and connections are made. They interact with potential business partners, investors, or clients. This is more than just place to bet on high-stakes games, such as poker, baccarat, or blackjack but a place that provides them a sense of prestige and belonging to an elite group their wealth and social status are showcased. However, if they do not gamble responsibly, they too will become addicted to gambling and lead to loss of wealth.

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April 03, 2024, 07:19:46 AM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

The reality is that most gamblers, and specially the most addicted ones, are usually people without much money to begin with.

Most millionaires would rarely gamble. As you mention, there's little point for them to do that.

They can instead enjoy many other activities with the money they have.

Gambling is basically paying for chasing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire, which they already are.

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April 03, 2024, 07:39:15 AM
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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

It doesn't matter if someone is rich or poor, we all start gambling for fun & easy profit. The stakes are different, everyone has their own limit and perception of a min bet & big win.

It's not a question of how someone becomes too addicted to gambling, I think we are all addicted, so the real question is how well we are able to control it. Without control, anyone (rich or poor) can lose everything they have and get into debt on top of that.

Each of us has our own reasons why we like to gamble, for sure it's common for all of us to feel the thrill of taking risks and trying to get bigger wins. Other factors like socialization in land-based casinos or online casino chat rooms, and drinking can add up to the experience, but some people just like to gamble without them.

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April 03, 2024, 07:48:22 AM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more
I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
You already stated it; what more will be the reason for rich people or wealthy people to choose to gamble? simple as that they want to waste their money just to satisfy themselves, for pleasure, of course. Why do they get addicted? also simple because they have the means to continue playing despite losing too much, but as we know, money and wealth are not infinite, so if they continue to waste money on gambling, then at some point they will stumble and may lose their luxurious life.

But in their lives, one thing we only know is that they are just people who found fun and satisfaction in gambling; they are the ones who didn't take gambling seriously because, in their minds, it was just a hobby, and no matter how much they could waste, as long as they were enjoying themselves, they would continue and would not stop until their end point.

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April 03, 2024, 08:05:46 AM
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Before some rich people become rich most of them had gone through the effect of gambling in the society. At least that experiences are something that they don't want to forget. So, in as much as they are rich and could afford anything for themselves the spirit of gambling is still in them. This is where the idea of gambling for fun comes into play. The gambling for fun comprises the feeling of losing and winning. When you win you rejoice and would feel that you are a good gambler while whenever one loses you feel so sad (but not regret) which you would want to show yourself by winning the next bet.

The rich gamble with the rich. And there is a euphoria feeling whenever they are in the casinos gambling with their fellow rich gamblers. It gives them so kind of relaxing feeling that they are among the elite gamblers. Such a gambler regardless of his profession he won't stop gambling.

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April 03, 2024, 08:34:53 AM
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Yes, that's also one part of it.
They like to be with people, they like boasting about their riches, they like drinking, and they love spending their money, that's all the reasons why they will gamble and I think it's just okay since they have the money to do so.

I don't envy them though, it's still nice being on the average side because you enjoy what you have and you are disciplined enough to secure yourself financially. That means working harder, that means budgeting everything, and that also means being a responsible gambler if you are one. We can always adjust to anything but rich people might have a hard time once all that wealth is gone. The rich keep getting rich, they say, but that is because once they fall adjustment will be not easy. Some even take their own lives because they cannot swallow it.

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April 03, 2024, 09:01:35 AM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

A millionaire can start gambling as he wants the entertainment that comes from gambling, as he continues to gamble without being disciplined he'll get addicted to gambling and will then want to continue playing it just to fulfill his  satisfaction. A majority of addicted individual don't care if they're losing or winning when they're gambling. For some individuals it's about the money that they're making as they're addicted to making money from gambling as they're not always losing when they gamble.

For those individuals that are losing but still gambling, we can say it's about the wins that they're chasing. The individuals will say when they win that they'll stop gambling but after winning they won't stop but want to continue to gamble further. Gambling addiction works differently for different individuals and this is why we have different types of addiction an different reasons why they get addicted to gambling.

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April 03, 2024, 10:24:25 AM
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Which one is even better between these two? They are the same for me.

The majority of gamblers are gambling because of the money they can win, and some are gambling to win by force, these two will eventually lead to addiction.

Gambling is not a source of income, if you keep thinking that you could win all the time you will keep getting closer to gambling more and more, and the more you keep it up, the more attractive you get to the game.

Many gamblers started to become a responsible one, and as time flew by they changed, and the game changed them, the problem must have started within, they must have strongly believed that gambling holds the key to the cribs.

Either a millionaire or not, everyone wants to make money, for millionaires, they will always want more money, and no one ever stops hunting for money after they make millions, stopping means slowly going broke.

If you like gambling before you become rich, you will keep gambling after you get rich, its simple, what we do all the time becomes a part of us, and we can't go on for long without trying them again.

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April 03, 2024, 10:32:34 AM
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If you satisfied in gambling because of winning, you should gamble on 1.01x odds games.

Millionaire start to gambling because they have enough money that they can afford to lose.

They can become addict because of skill issue, they can't control themselves.

Of course get drunk is really satisfy because you can temporary escape from your problems, but you will not able to control yourself when you're high.

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It doesn't matter if someone is rich or poor, we all start gambling for fun & easy profit. The stakes are different, everyone has their own limit and perception of a min bet & big win.
Rich men prefer other means of entertainment also and not depend on gambling like people that are not rich that are looking for a day to win jackpot and win huge amount of money. I can say that rich people are more sensible and avoidinf irresponsible gambling than people that are not rich.

It's not a question of how someone becomes too addicted to gambling, I think we are all addicted, so the real question is how well we are able to control it. Without control, anyone (rich or poor) can lose everything they have and get into debt on top of that.
You are right. But non rich people gamble to make money and that makes rich people to be different because they do not look for money from gambling the way people that are not rich are looking for money.

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April 03, 2024, 10:58:31 AM
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If you satisfied in gambling because of winning, you should gamble on 1.01x odds games.

Millionaire start to gambling because they have enough money that they can afford to lose.

They can become addict because of skill issue, they can't control themselves.

Of course get drunk is really satisfy because you can temporary escape from your problems, but you will not able to control yourself when you're high.

I agree, those millionares start to gamble because they want to enjoy theirselves and their money by using it for their own leisures, and gambling is a big part of their leisures in their life, but some millionares are too smart when it comes to spending their hardwork money,
the rest of them are really just controlling their movements with their money, maybe because they know how difficult it is to earn them, because it's true that not all rich people become rich instantly, for sure their hard work, intelligence and strategy that they have, became an investment here and as a reward to themselves, they do the things they want to do. Some of them become addicted because of greed, knowing their background, all they really want is to gain huge amount of money and they saw gambling as one of the possible source if that money that's why even if they know the consequences of the things that they wanted to do, they still continue doing it because gambling satisfy their wants and happiness at some point



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April 03, 2024, 11:01:15 AM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
there is no socializing in Online casino because you are playing on your own in your gadget and also drinking? well if you drink and gamble then for sure you will end up losing because you will never stop betting even if you are already a winner.

but your points are valid ,  because what can a Billionaire need to gamble from the first place? when they already have everything in life? it is the satisfaction of beating the table that gives them this feeling.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.
I'd like to believe it the same the goal is to make money if you're trying to win or beat the house the goal is about winning the money, it's different if you're playing for fun, making money is not the main objective but capturing those exciting moments when you're betting, but even if you want to have fun you still want to win money we cannot be hypocrite about winning money when there's an opportunity to win.

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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

This applies to physical casinos since you mentioned socialization+joy+drinking+gambling these are all present when you're playing in physical casinos and in online casinos the socialization is not present unless they are playing with friends.
Both versions have different ambiances, those patronizing the physical casino are looking to socialize and enjoy  the entertainment and ambiance of physical casinos, they meet their business associates, and some businesses are discussed in online casinos, and there were times that some deals are made there.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.
Are you sure that it's a good idea to start gambling to make your life better? Are you really sure about that? You might be lucky and win a million dollar one day but don't build your future on that dream.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  
The experience of millionaire is different from a regular guy. Millionaire has fun in one of the most exciting casinos, have many hot chicks around him and doesn't have to worry about financial problems, he doesn't gamble for money, he gambles for fun, that's all.

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
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A gambler is a gambler, rich or poor but who needs to be more active with gambling? The dudes with the less money, and thats where  the poor comes in, they have the biggest desire to make the most money, they will go all into gambling thinking it's the way to get rich.

And the rich already have a source of income getting them the real bags of money, gambling to them is catching some fun.

The poor will fall mercilessly in the addiction of gambling compared to the rich men, a responsible gambler who isn't rich like I am don't see much fulfillment of getting rich through gambling.

I know that trying to get my mind fixed on gambling as my source of income will put me in much bigger trouble, I prefer having a great time in gamble and going to other sources for income stream.

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It is natural if you have the mindset to win some money. People often think about that when they gamble because they have seen several people who have succeeded in making a lot of money from gambling. They also want to get it but can't follow people's actions.

A millionaire gambles for many reasons, and we will never know the exact reason. They may gamble because they want to have fun after their daily activities. They want to enjoy their free time by gambling but they don't think about winning or losing from gambling. They can stop themselves after playing gambling for a while.

If they think that socializing+fun+drinking+gambling is satisfying, that's right because they enjoy their free time well. Meanwhile, if people use gambling to make money, they should be prepared to lose.

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April 03, 2024, 12:29:25 PM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

I know very few millionaires who gamble and are addicted.We all know Drake but that guy is being hugely sponsored by a casino and cases of such celebrities and millionaires are rare.I see no reason in the first place why someone who has achieved quite a lot in their life should gamble,there is no logical sense to it knowing the gambling dangers,it is like going to tease the Lion in his cage so close that you risk to get your hand cut.

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April 03, 2024, 12:44:38 PM
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I agree, those millionares start to gamble because they want to enjoy theirselves and their money by using it for their own leisures, and gambling is a big part of their leisures in their life, but some millionares are too smart when it comes to spending their hardwork money,
the rest of them are really just controlling their movements with their money, maybe because they know how difficult it is to earn them, because it's true that not all rich people become rich instantly, for sure their hard work, intelligence and strategy that they have, became an investment here and as a reward to themselves, they do the things they want to do. Some of them become addicted because of greed, knowing their background, all they really want is to gain huge amount of money and they saw gambling as one of the possible source if that money that's why even if they know the consequences of the things that they wanted to do, they still continue doing it because gambling satisfy their wants and happiness at some point
Believe me, if you see someone claimed to be rich or you think they're rich because they have many business or high paying job, they're not that rich. Let's say you have $10 Million, technically you're rich by a lot people, you can actually buy lambo that cost you $300K, but you choose to not buy because you feel it's wasting money and better you invest it. But if you own $10 Billion, I don't think you will think like that, you will immediately buy it.

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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  
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The answer is already in your statement, millionaires already have a lot of money, they have assets, good money circulation, investment, and etc so they don't need to worry if they lose too much money because at the end of the day, they have the cash to enjoy themselves, if you have a lot of money there's a lot of opportunity, and chances will be given to you because you can play a lot of games, you can risk a lot more than the other gambler. Sometimes you must need to enjoy life and people found this in playing gambling.

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April 03, 2024, 02:17:05 PM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
These days we all know that there are things that we can all spend our money on, the things you mentioned are thr real examples of things people spend their moneys on, if they don't spend of drinks they spend on women, if they don't spend on women, they spend on drugs, gamble and don't people don't even spend their money on themselves, those people prefer to satisfy other people than them self, drinks too.

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so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Sometimes it's not always about the money- it is about making a statement and conquering the odds on your favour.

The rich gamble due to various reasons but mostly, they look for the feeling of adrenaline and anxiety. When they conquer great fear, there is that huge moment of relief that people sometimes look for.

You're right- these people are already rich so what do they gain from it? Perhaps more money to dispose; or maybe they find the environment of gambling establishments to be comfortable? There's lots of reasons on why they gamble but I do think that majority of the rich gamble in order to prove that they can win. Their competitive nature drives them to prove to others that they can win against these odds.

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April 03, 2024, 02:39:00 PM
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Well, we can actually sort out what you said in this post, let's start with you first. initially you start gambling to win some money, or you hope to get the biggest win. then, you claim that gradually your ideas began to change. but still, the common thread is money which is the starting point for you to gamble. although now, perhaps your mindset has changed as you gain more experience.

Referring to the second point, we do not necessarily generalize it to what you think. for example, Athletes, Politicians, and even other rich people. in essence, everyone has a trigger for why they like to gamble and even become addicted. we don't know that at first they gambled, then became addicts. When it comes to money, they have it. Or it could be, they want to get richer from gambling. After all, everyone's thinking patterns are different. Well, let's just take the big picture, most athletes or politicians who like to gamble are initially for entertainment. Or, they meet at a place that has a casino and bar. Then, they try it just for fun and it ends up becoming a hobby. there are also factors from DNA and genes, we discussed this point in the previous thread. So in essence we cannot equalize everyone, you have mentioned several factors in this post. So the point is that each person's addiction is different, even though the essence is the same, they are both addicts.

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I remember watching a movie about why rich people invest, one of the findings was that they find meaning in that activity and feel like their life was fulfilled if they managed to do that well. Basically, it serves as a product to fill their self-actualization needs. I can see the same thing happen if they use gambling and win it to fulfill their self-actualization needs, but not sure it applies to anyone who is addicted. They can start with the same motive, but I believe things change if a person becomes addicted. It no longer makes them happy but hurts them instead.

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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  
The way average people, poor people crave for gambling and play with the amount that they can't afford to lose, this is the same way way the rich  people crave for gambling and play with the amount they can afford. Millionaires always want to get more money, they are not satisfied with amount money of money they have, that is way they play gambling .
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so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?
A rich athlete or politician can become addictive just like the way every average and poor person can become addictive to gambling.  People comes addicted to gambling because of too much passion and much expectation they have towards gambling irrespective of the financial status. People can be addicted if they do not follow gambling responsibly the way it needs to be followed.

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April 03, 2024, 03:00:26 PM
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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

To be honest, the only reason why I think a millionaire or a rich person would get into gambling is because they are looking to have some fun but along the way they got carried away and then fall into addiction.

There might be some rich people who are purely in for the fun part, but as we all know even if you’re rich or poor if you don’t take caution when gambling you’ll become something you don’t like -  for example they might not be chasing their losses since they have enough money to cover up the amount they lost but the time they usually spend on their account could still lead to it and that’s the only reason that comes to my mind each time I think about it.

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April 03, 2024, 03:01:49 PM
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Gambling is basically paying for chasing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire, which they already are.
I disagree with you on this, that people are gambling to become a millionaire, and that millionaire do not gamble because they have millions. People that gamble to become millionaires are always those that think they can make a fortune through gambling, which it do end up to be the opposite, and they are not responsible gamblers.

There are another kind of gamblers that do not gamble because they want to make millions, but they gamble for fun, because they have come to understand that gambling is a game of luck and should be seen as a means of entertainment. Such people are the ones that are enjoying gambling, and we have both the rich and the poor falling in this category.

I have heard of some millionaires that gambled and became broke. So what were they looking for when they already have millions. Addiction a problem to all, both the rich and the poor.

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The reality is that most gamblers, and specially the most addicted ones, are usually people without much money to begin with.

Most millionaires would rarely gamble. As you mention, there's little point for them to do that.

They can instead enjoy many other activities with the money they have.

Gambling is basically paying for chasing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire, which they already are.

Yeah that's true because in real life you can hardly see a wealthy man gambling because he has already gotten more than enough money that could get him whatever they need in life, so I totally agree with you because like I already mentioned on most of my post is very rare to see a rich man gambling, however even if gambling is a game of fun there is no wealthy man will just sacrifice his money on gambling just to have fun, although there has been numerous of people who has been talking about how most people sacrifice there money just to have fun.

I also agree with that majority of people or rather gamblers who easily become an addict are those who doesn't have money and when they gamble they are ready to put in everything they have just to have a good wining but the rich doesn't gamble much and even if they do, they gamble with strategy of targeting a club that has higher chance of wining with a smaller odds and put in money but when it comes to the poor they gamble too aggressively.

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April 03, 2024, 03:19:10 PM
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To be honest, the only reason why I think a millionaire or a rich person would get into gambling is because they are looking to have some fun but along the way they got carried away and then fall into addiction.

There might be some rich people who are purely in for the fun part, but as we all know even if you’re rich or poor if you don’t take caution when gambling you’ll become something you don’t like -  for example they might not be chasing their losses since they have enough money to cover up the amount they lost but the time they usually spend on their account could still lead to it and that’s the only reason that comes to my mind each time I think about it.

For those who have a lot of money or are called millionaires, in my opinion it is clear that they do or participate in gambling because they want to have fun, but that doesn't mean they don't want to win, of course there is a desire for them to be able to win in the gambling they do. It's just that their main goal is to have fun. They probably don't think too much about the money they lose because they gamble on it, because they know the meaning of gambling so they don't mind the losses that occur.

I agree with you, it is true whether they are rich or poor, but if they are not careful in gambling then they may fall into problems such as unacceptable losses which lead them to greater losses or gambling addiction. it may be true that time can make them fall into trouble such as losing more money, even though rich people gamble just for fun. Even though they gamble with the aim of just having fun, if they make a mistake, there is a clear possibility that they could also be in trouble that makes them suffer. We all know the bad effects of gambling if we lose self-control or excessively, and everything can change from one moment to another.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

the idea of winning does.... Does that sound somehow to you? Oh yes that is how addiction set in. Gambling addict are people whose mind is becloud with such ideas.

Seeing millionaires gambling is a justification that not everyone gamble for money but for the sake of fun and entertainment. This people have enough money to cater for themselves and love ones but they still engage in gambling. Winning more money is probably part of motivation but that's not the main reason behind their involvement in gambling. Some of them become addict because money to gamble with is never a problem and see it as a place to pass off their stress.

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April 03, 2024, 03:41:16 PM
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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  
Aside from what everyone has said, I guess it's because some people aren't satisfied with their source of income and find it fun to win money through gambling.

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
That's probably true to a certain extent because as the others already mentioned, casinos would always step up to provide the best experience for their best customers, and that's the high rollers.

IMO there are still high rollers who are addicted because of other reasons like struggling to stop themselves from chasing their losses.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does
I'm quite confuse when you win in a casino you are going to win money and the more you win the more money coming in, even if you say that you don't care about the money, as long as you win the money keeps flowing unless you just giveaway the money that you've won.

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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Some people are sociable and the physical casinos knows this and they know that these sociable people are people on high society so they make it a point to make their casino a good place to meet and mingle but even if they are here to meet people and enjoy they are also here to make money.

Its human to want to make easy money even if you are already rich you still want to make money besides the feeling and enjoying the place, they feel they are rewarded they feel the dopamine effect in gambling
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
Am very sure if you love the feeling of winning so much you should try play more games that offer rewards either online or offline. Binance supports alot of good gaming services and it might be an opportunity to earn as you enjoy the thrill of winning.

For the millionaires who gamble alot, I doubt they suddenly became millionaires overnight and thus,  it may have been an already reinforced habit that they had before they become millionaires.
 Literally anyone who has enough money to lavish can and often gamble mostly when they roll with like minded pals.

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This “Win”, “Maybe Win” becomes the beginning of addiction. Emotions are not part of addiction but this can ruin the fun of gambling. When both of "win and emotion" cannot be separated, the gambler can experience problems. This may be considered wrong for some people, but most of them are those who want to always win, making them addicted to gambling. The winnings he got made him gamble again, until he couldn't control himself because of their emotion in gambling so he no longer gambled for fun but to win. How if face another lose, emotions bring him to gamble for win. Of course, half of us gamble for win, but without control, it's only emotion to win.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
Gambling solely for the aim of making money to meet our needs is not appropriate because gambling doesn't guarantee a steady source of income. It is better to see gambling as entertainment but without neglecting the possibility of making money. What you need to know is that everyone including billionaires wants more money. A millionaire might gamble for fun but some of them gamble for the money.

 I can attest that socialization is one of the benefits of physical casinos because it provides an avenue to interact with friends and sometimes share some bottles of beer. Physical casinos provide a good atmosphere for entertainment and no doubt many politicians and millionaires might find the place entertaining. But as I earlier stated, many of them still gamble for money because I have seen some of them who are addicted gamblers.

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so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

There are many reasons why millionaires are addicted to gambling, even though they are already rich and should have enough with what they have - but it seems they are not satisfied with what they have and gamble to fulfill their lust and pleasure. For example, the news states that Bruno Mars is said to have millions of dollars in debt to MGM, and not only Bruno Mars, but several other artists also have debts to the casino. Why are they like that? It's nothing other than that because of their lifestyle, lust, pleasure, and triviality towards gambling because they think that their wealth is so large that it's not a problem for them to gamble and have fun. That's why these millionaires are still involved in gambling, even though they actually have a lot of wealth.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
We all know that drugs are very harmful to our body yet spending a lot of money people use drugs because they enjoy the fun of consuming them. Similarly gambling is a place of entertainment although there is a possibility of losing a lot of money and many people lose a lot of money but it attracts us again and again and even after losing a lot of money we cannot stop gambling. So both the rich and the poor are interested in gambling and enjoy gambling regularly



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Satisfaction is temporary, because when the effects of the alcohol they drink have worn off, anxiety about the problems they are experiencing, feelings of stress and frustration will fill their heads again, as well as when they carry out gambling, where many people assume that they are gambling. to relieve stress and get pleasure, but in reality many times when the end of the gambling they play ends in defeat, playing gambling actually makes them feel even more stressed. Feeling stressed because he has lost a lot of money as a result of his gambling. And therefore, if we like gambling enough, then as much as possible manage this activity as best as possible, so as not to eliminate the fun and essence in it, nor cause significant losses.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

I believe it actually goes way beyond the social status and the money the person could already have in their pockets, to whether they are less likely or not to start partaking in gambling and betting. Just looks for example and people who are millionaire and billionaire and they have literally enough money to do whatever they want for the rest of their lives and even the rest of the lives of their descendants. They already have money, but money is something complex to the human mind and makes us to have even more of it, even though we already have much of our basic needs covered.
Billionaires continue to do business, Bitcoin whales continue to try to profit off the market and CEOs continue to compete against one another for the sake of accumulating money.
So there are rich people and celebrities out there which (like the common average person) do not see chances of getting money in investments or expansion of their businesses, but rather they turn to gambling.

The takeaway is that Gambling is equally attractive to rich people and people who does not have much money, that is specially true to the new rich and those who inherited their money without being aware of the hard work behind all the fortune.

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It simply depends on who you are and what your personality is; things are subjective when it comes to satisfaction. Some people are fine just playing because they are not or no longer in need of big amount of money becaause they have their own wealth outside this industry. But of most the people here for sure are into gambling activities to earn profit. You'd only be engaging on either entertainment or financial satisfaction and rewards. I cannot think of other reason why do people gamble aside from these two. Winning is a part of a person's ego and it could be a drive. However, that drive depends on your needs and desire. If it is winning over opponent then that's valid if that's how you percieve things but more likely there'e a deeper meaning for you to be too eager of things. You can name all of those things but for sure majority of it would fall under monetary needs.

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April 03, 2024, 04:41:40 PM
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I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
I think their satisfaction lies on the uncertainity the gambling game provides to them. There is a theory which says personalities like politicians, for an example, are used to be on the control of the situation all the time. They are a dominant force which decides the direction not only of their lives, but also the directions the whole society is going to take.

This burden annoys and stress them in some moments, so they feel the need for relief through activities where they aren't in charge of the situation anymore, becoming just the passive agent, resigning themselves to the active and dominant force of someone else. In this case we can consider this force to be the luck factor at gambling games.

As consequence they feel pleasure and satisfaction by not knowing what is going to happen next. If they are going to win or lose the bet. If they are going to quit the gambling session in profit or loss. This uncertainity is what gives them the thrill!

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Casino is one of the favourite place for rich people to hangout, they are not necessarily involved in betting to make money for their living but their goal is also make some money as fun, while doing it some people get addicted and gamble more to recover the loss and lose more while attempting it.

Gambling for making money is wrong ideology, if someone is doing with such thoughts will learn the lesson in hard way.

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April 03, 2024, 04:48:24 PM
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There are many reasons why millionaires are addicted to gambling, even though they are already rich and should have enough with what they have - but it seems they are not satisfied with what they have and gamble to fulfill their lust and pleasure. For example, the news states that Bruno Mars is said to have millions of dollars in debt to MGM, and not only Bruno Mars, but several other artists also have debts to the casino. Why are they like that? It's nothing other than that because of their lifestyle, lust, pleasure, and triviality towards gambling because they think that their wealth is so large that it's not a problem for them to gamble and have fun. That's why these millionaires are still involved in gambling, even though they actually have a lot of wealth.
I think when someone has an addiction to gambling, of course they gamble too often until they have difficulty resisting the urge to gamble and for those who think that by gambling they can get rich, of course they will continue to gamble in the hope that they will be able to get a big win from the bet they make. play and some rich people gamble, of course they don't think about winning, they think about how they can get pleasure from the games they play.
If someone takes gambling lightly, of course it will be very difficult for them to stop gambling and they will continue to bet and think that they will not suffer a loss if they gamble too often and this will be very detrimental to them when they realize it.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
The way I see it those people are addicted to the feeling they got when they gamble, not just about the profit, socialization or drinking.
We have some gamblers who are addicted to it without even socialization.
I think rich people became addicted to gambling because of the satisfaction that they got from winning, and they are risking their money to get that satisfaction.



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April 03, 2024, 05:36:42 PM
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The reason for entertainment and enjoying the results is understandable. For many millionaires, gambling is a luxurious form of entertainment. After all, some millionaires value preserving their hard-earned money and probably don't want to risk gambling. Raising capital is a procedure that requires diligence, intelligence and tactics. Therefore, they choose to invest wisely instead of just relying on luck. On the contrary, some millionaires also have a hobby of gambling. Even though they are aware that gambling is high risk, they are still motivated by the desire for wealth and the possibility of winning big. A harsh education and society can make them want to make money quickly so gambling becomes the fastest way they know to get it.









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April 03, 2024, 05:48:50 PM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
The way I see it those people are addicted to the feeling they got when they gamble, not just about the profit, socialization or drinking.
We have some gamblers who are addicted to it without even socialization.
I think rich people became addicted to gambling because of the satisfaction that they got from winning, and they are risking their money to get that satisfaction.
The pleasant feeling they get from gambling makes them addicted and want to get more. Without them realizing it, they become more and more addicted and if there is no self-control, they will get deeper into gambling.
If they have been gambling for too long, it will be difficult to cure them and they will only spend their time gambling. They will not want to stop their gambling activities because for them, gambling has become a necessity.
But if rich people continue to gamble, their wealth will run out because gambling is not a place to make money. They must realize it before it's too late, so they don't regret it later.
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Well, addiction is addiction even if you are rich or not, winning or not, losing or not because they may not be concerned about the financial consequences in the same way that someone who is struggling financially might be even the rich still keep on gambling though they are not afraid of losing but they can't stop because they are being addicted but while they are not afraid to lose, they will have a significant impact on their lives like losing their relationships, reputation and even their freedom but I think it's important to consider all of these things and not just assume that money will protect someone from the negative effects of gambling.
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It doesn't matter if someone is rich or poor, we all start gambling for fun & easy profit. The stakes are different, everyone has their own limit and perception of a min bet & big win.
Rich men prefer other means of entertainment also and not depend on gambling like people that are not rich that are looking for a day to win jackpot and win huge amount of money. I can say that rich people are more sensible and avoidinf irresponsible gambling than people that are not rich.

I am not really sure what you wish to say here... Poor people also prefer other means of entertainment, and poor people can also be very responsible with the money they have. Poor or rich people look for jackpots, and you should know that it's a different jackpot if you play with $0.1 and $100 per bet... so even rich people can easily get a lot richer if they hit a jackpot with some high bet. So 100 $0.1 bets are $10, and 100 $10 bets are $1000... Everyone plays with stakes they can control, and those stakes can bring big profits or big losses.


It's not a question of how someone becomes too addicted to gambling, I think we are all addicted, so the real question is how well we are able to control it. Without control, anyone (rich or poor) can lose everything they have and get into debt on top of that.
You are right. But non rich people gamble to make money and that makes rich people to be different because they do not look for money from gambling the way people that are not rich are looking for money.

It's the same. As I wrote above... poor guy will try to make $10 with his $10, millionaire will try to make another million with his million. Numbers are different, but the chances for both are the same.

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Satisfaction is temporary, because when the effects of the alcohol they drink have worn off, anxiety about the problems they are experiencing, feelings of stress and frustration will fill their heads again, as well as when they carry out gambling, where many people assume that they are gambling. to relieve stress and get pleasure, but in reality many times when the end of the gambling they play ends in defeat, playing gambling actually makes them feel even more stressed. Feeling stressed because he has lost a lot of money as a result of his gambling. And therefore, if we like gambling enough, then as much as possible manage this activity as best as possible, so as not to eliminate the fun and essence in it, nor cause significant losses.
It's a stretch to think that gambling can temporarily take away your consciousness, but if you liken it to alcoholic beverages in the same case, instead of relieving stress and getting pleasure, it doesn't work like the drinks you drink with the games in the casino.
If it's not about winning then maybe the addiction is to chase past losses, and come back again wanting to win and get back the money you lost. Relative to gambling winning is bliss and losing is sorrow if we look at the concept, but the feelings and goals surrounding both can be subjectively interpreted which gives birth to different views on the why and how questions of addiction itself.

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It's not really about the money you hold that will help you get addicted to gambling, whether you are rich or poor. As long as you don't have self-control and are too greedy, there is nothing that will stop you from getting addicted. 
 
Even those who are politicians, who most times just use gambling as a means to clear their heads and get social interaction, once they get too comfortable with the game and start taking it very seriously and accepting challenges, it won't be long for them to get addicted to the game. Their status can't prevent them from getting addicted; it's their own desires and decisions that have an effect on what their gambling behaviour will lead to.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

This is true and probably happens to lots of gamblers.
At some point winning becomes more important than the money. The money being a consequence
They want to be right. The money is just a thrill, something that spices up the deal to hook’em

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If it is land based casinos, socialization is among the reasons you will see rich men that are gambling. But some rich people also prefer online gambling and that can not just be because of socialization if the rich person only prefer to gamble online and prefer privacy. A rich person that is addicted to going is because he is not able to discipline himself and such addiction is not good at all because it is possible for a rich man to become poor.

Socialization is an advantage that online casinos don't have and when people include socialization as one of their gambling goals then yes most likely they will prefer to engage in physical casinos over online casinos, you will meet a lot of people where you can also share experiences or tell stories while betting along with enjoying a bottle of wine, this is fun for some people. On the other hand, I don't know if rich people are more involved in online or physical gambling, but I'm sure that there are some of them who gamble and are involved in both types of gambling.

One of the reasons why someone prefers to engage in online casinos may be that they are one of those people who are always closed or always prioritize privacy when doing anything regardless of whether they are rich or poor, but yes however the most important thing is to have the ability to maintain, manage and control their gambling activities properly regardless of whether you are rich or poor and also regardless of where you gamble, because the point is of course that the rich can become poor and the poor may have an increasingly worrying life if they cannot treat their gambling activities properly.

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OP is right about the money not being the fuel of addicts in the long run.

People usually start with money it's the main goal at first and the reason they try so hard. Then it becomes a form of spending free time. Winning helps, but the games are constructed in such way that it's almost impossible to keep losing. Usually gamblers are at a loss but it's a small one so they keep playing ending a few sessions with a profit and then a few at a loss, but that profit keeps them in the game because a bankrupt gambler will not return.

When you win your brain releases endorphins and you get that feeling of happiness combined with a sense of accomplishment. That's what gets really makes people come back to the game even after a losing streak.

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I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
They are rich, risking their money when gambling is not much of an issue for them, so yeah, I agree, a lot rich people gamble for the sole purpose of entertainment, thrill, socialization, etc... but I am pretty sure that there are still rich people who gambles because they want to gain profit from gambling and they find joy from increasing their wealth through gambling.


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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
No amount of money is always enough for most persons, so even though they are rich, they would still want to double their money, however gambling isn't for only rich people, it's for every class of persons in the society. Addiction can affect anybody in the society, or do you think addiction should be solely for the low income earnings in our society?, I believe your answer should be NO.

Socialization brings awareness to everybody not only the rich, however people gambling for different reasons, some to double their money while others do it for fun.
OP, You get me confused when you said the money no longer satisfies your initial goal, but winning does, so when you win is it not the same thing as earning more money and using it to better your life just as you said or is there any more purpose that winning serves you that we don't know?

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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  
Gambling is not determined if you're rich or poor. If a Richman decided to gamble, it's just for him to make extra cash to his existing business by adding value to his money . But along the line of gambling he becomes addicted to it, instead of winning, he loses more. Some rich men has gone broke due to gambling today and some will never learn.

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?
Because they want to double their hustle. Everyone feels thesame thing  when they want too I crease their

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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?
Each person can have a different goal when he/she plays gambling. Not everyone plays gambling for money purpose only. Some people gamble for fun, they like gambling because they get entertainment while they are trying luck to earn money as the bonus. A millionaire may be interested in gambling because he/she wants to have some fun with gambling games. Sure, they don't deny the prizes but it won't be everything for them because they have enough money.

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?
It is because they gamble excessively. If an athlete or politician have played gambling games daily without a limit, it is easy to be addicted. Basically, it is about how they gamble, it is not about their profession as an athlete or politician. Everyone who gamble with inappropriate ways, they can be addicted to gambling. So, makes sure that we apply the way in gambling.



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April 03, 2024, 10:02:14 PM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

You're spot on, it's not just about the money, but the thrill of winning that keeps people hooked on gambling. It makes sense that even those who already have plenty, like millionaires or athletes, get caught up in it. It's more about the excitement and the social buzz around gambling than anything else.
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Gambling does not always revolve around money. To those who actively participate in it, the thrill and adrenaline that you get from such activities are beyond measure, unlike any other. This is seen as entertainment or a method of getting away from pressure and duties associated with their elevated status and lifestyle. However, involvement with friends can be a key element too. Gamblers often belong to the same social groups who partake in gambling as a way of life. Involving activities like drinking and socializing while playing can be a form of bonding with their peers and experiencing membership in a distinct group.

The problem of gambling addiction is not just a matter of getting fun from entertainment. Psychological factors, such as an adrenaline rush or the excitement of winning, are also involved in maintaining compulsive gambling. However, it is fair to say that socializing, having fun, and drinking may be one aspect of something bigger.

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For most people addicted to gambling, it's actually about the money. Because most people aren't rich, the vast majority of people that spend too much for their needs in gambling are the ones thinking they might catch a lucky break from their misery through gambling as an activity.

So yes, the money does play a role in most people's gambling habit, especially if they are a problem gambler. Because the rich and especially those that have money generating assets, don't need to be a so called "problem gambler" because they can replenish their wealth and continue living a comfortable life pretty easily. It's mostly the poor that are judged as problem gamblers because for them they spend too much and then they can't afford food let's say.

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April 03, 2024, 11:07:44 PM
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For most people addicted to gambling, it's actually about the money.
There are other forms of addictions where there are no chance of making money, but people still get hooked to these things because they derive pleasure from it.
There are those who are gambling for the pleasure it gives to them. They can be rich, and not so concerned about the money from it, they just gamble because they like the feeling it gives them, they may not mind gambling on illegal sports too. This category of gamblers are within the highs of the society, they are politicians, celebrities, children of bloody rich men etc. 

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For most people addicted to gambling, it's actually about the money.
There are other forms of addictions where there are no chance of making money, but people still get hooked to these things because they derive pleasure from it.
There are those who are gambling for the pleasure it gives to them. They can be rich, and not so concerned about the money from it, they just gamble because they like the feeling it gives them, they may not mind gambling on illegal sports too. This category of gamblers are within the highs of the society, they are politicians, celebrities, children of bloody rich men etc.  

Let us put it this way, every gambler has their own reasons or causes why they are into gambling. Rich or just regular gambler, we can't pinpoint their major reasoning but more than likely it falls to the following aspects : money, socialization, fun/entertainment, not to feel lonely, exposure to gambling, substance abuse, among others.

Whatever their motivation in gambling, it depends also on their financial goals or financial constraints. Because even if you want to bet in high stakes but you have no financial capability to fund such bet, what will you do? Borrow money or just use the money that you have?

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April 03, 2024, 11:24:23 PM
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I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

I think for someone who has a lot of money, such as politicians, artists, rich people, it depends on their environment and friends. Usually they use gambling and drinking alcohol and so on as a cover to run business and increase relationships, what is worse is drug use and leads to sex too. Obviously it's fun, and will continue to happen because it has become a tradition.

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April 03, 2024, 11:27:52 PM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

You're spot on, it's not just about the money, but the thrill of winning that keeps people hooked on gambling. It makes sense that even those who already have plenty, like millionaires or athletes, get caught up in it. It's more about the excitement and the social buzz around gambling than anything else.
Sometimes it isn't even about the winning, it's about the that feeling of wanting to win and the believe that on every next try there is a possibility that one could actually win so that's just the case with gambling there is the believe that if I go or play again I might win and this is basically the error that leads to someone being addicted. Then when you eventually get the win one or two times you come so totally tied up to the feeling and it never stops at all.

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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

I think the idea of winning could be appealing to everyone. Just the thought that you’ve won something of value irrespective of the amount of money or the prize itself makes one feel good.
I think rich folks who gamble do so likely for the thrill of winning and to socialize with other rich folks, creating connections to increase their wealth.

The prospect of winning more money is also appealing, even for rich people and in the quest for more money, they get addicted and run into gambling debts.
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

The reality is that most gamblers, and specially the most addicted ones, are usually people without much money to begin with.

Most millionaires would rarely gamble. As you mention, there's little point for them to do that.

They can instead enjoy many other activities with the money they have.

Gambling is basically paying for chasing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire, which they already are.
I have to agree on your point. While gambling also entertain us, but majority still gamble to make money, and you won’t expect for millionaires still aim to make more money as they have it already. So what they are looking for is purely to have fun and relieve theirselves from stress, and once they get over it, they will not gamble more often, hence they are not prone to addiction.

But for low income earners, they gamble to make money. But the more they gamble, the bigger the losses they’ve been acquired. Eventually, if they lose their self-control and discipline, then gambling addiction will follow.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

A millionaire and Politician can gamble and they could.be doing it for the money but their desperation is not as high as that of a ordinary person because they have plenty of alternatives to make money from, unlike an ordinary person that is gambling to make money to eat or make money to pay bills and also take care of other people especially if he is married. A politician already has all of this, he is not gambling to sort basic needs but prefer to just add to his riches.

Most of the time, if you are gambling to make ends meet or perhaps you don't have much to take care or basic tings, you are likely to become addicted to gambling because your mind will always be on every game that you play, you will likely feel discomfort and when you lost, you feel it badly.
There is a big difference between the gambling management of people of high social class such as big businessmen or politicians and the gambling management of ordinary people. If a politician or businessman loses his money in gambling, even if he loses at that high rate, he will not suffer as much humanly as an ordinary gambler would feel. Those who in the rich class expect to win from their gambling and some increase in their wealth but a typical gambler sees a big change in their life from gambling. Gamblers who try to change their lives spend a lot of time in gambling for little money. They basically become addicted gamblers. I think addiction is created when a gambler tries to increase his money by winning more.

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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.
Well, you've got a different mindset than the majority but no matter what shift you do as you gamble, it all ends up still with money. Winning = money.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  
It's for fun, they've got a lot of hectic days and stress in their jobs or businesses so they find a way to release those stress and one of it is through gambling.

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?
Aside from gambling, it's the socializing that they're getting in the premises of the casino. The network and connection that they're getting is somehow I can think of why they become addicted to it. But they are having hard time to avoid addiction if they're going to do it as most times.

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
Yeah, as I have said. Those are part of it when these millionaires, athletes and magnates does gambling. It's not just all about gambling and having fun and being entertained but more of those socializing that they're getting and as well as the ambiance and treatment that they're getting there.

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April 04, 2024, 12:04:03 AM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Exactly right, and you've made a great observation. Gambling captivates not just because of potential financial gain but due to the exhilaration it brings. This excitement can attract anyone, regardless of their financial status. It's the combination of thrill, the social atmosphere, and the joy of the game that really draws people in.

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I have to agree on your point. While gambling also entertain us, but majority still gamble to make money, and you won’t expect for millionaires still aim to make more money as they have it already. So what they are looking for is purely to have fun and relieve theirselves from stress, and once they get over it, they will not gamble more often, hence they are not prone to addiction.

But for low income earners, they gamble to make money. But the more they gamble, the bigger the losses they’ve been acquired. Eventually, if they lose their self-control and discipline, then gambling addiction will follow.

Yeah, the thing is that it's a bit irrational.

Well, rational if you include other points and not only the financial ones.

Basically, poor people see gambling as hope. Hope to get out of poverty because they don't see any other way out. Even if they work 24 hours a day, they would never become wealthy.

They see gambling as the only way out.

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April 04, 2024, 07:57:59 AM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

The reality is that most gamblers, and specially the most addicted ones, are usually people without much money to begin with.

Most millionaires would rarely gamble. As you mention, there's little point for them to do that.

They can instead enjoy many other activities with the money they have.

Gambling is basically paying for chasing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire, which they already are.


When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

The reality is that most gamblers, and specially the most addicted ones, are usually people without much money to begin with.

Most millionaires would rarely gamble. As you mention, there's little point for them to do that.

They can instead enjoy many other activities with the money they have.

Gambling is basically paying for chasing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire, which they already are.


Definitely most millionaires Gamble for their excitement of what they must have achieved,they do it as a means of cheering themselves up but for the poor Man he sees gambling as a big win,a big hit and with that he places a high hope in it a wait to get a better results and outcome but when the table changes and not favourable he'll go Al out to make sure he continues gambling just for the win but the rich man doesn't see it this way.

He might just gamble once to enhance his joy and let go for a while,so all gamblers should take note that he's not  about the money or the win but what matters is the fun you get when you do so.
Sometimes I might be down from a days job and would wish to gamble to ease my stress or change my thoughts towards it,so I'll just visit any casinos and seeing other people and sharing experience I'll discover myself that have forgotten about that stressful or hectic day..it's for fun,relaxation and excitement so let's have it all that way.

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April 04, 2024, 08:28:01 AM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
What such of source for income do you think gambling would have you to better your life with winning in the first place OP?
So what else was the goal for winning If not to win and make the money as earlier initiated?

For a rich man to gambling or being addicted to gambling, two things are involved which is not Contrary as an average gambler. So it is either they are gambling for funs or profits.
So if a rich man would gambling with an effectiveness to trouble his emotions including his bankroll then he is actually gambling to make more money and this could mostly happen on the online casino gambling but when they gambles responsibly without emotional effects and not effective to the bankrolls then are just gaming for funs.

Those rich men who gambles for funs are mostly gaming on the land base where there is physically connections with friends and audience.

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Every gamblers have their own reason why they gamble, and yes it should satisfy them so they can be more happy and it's not always about the money.
Addicted gambler are those who are doing things in bad faith and in a bad way, and being a gambler doesn't mean that you're already addict, this will take time and will be based on many reasons. Gambling addiction is not just about winning though, this can be more especially if you are already out of control.

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It's their way of escape. Escape from daily life pressure or stress. It's not about the money to them, money is only a plus, it's all about the experience for them. The excitement, and fun being with their peers, and the lifestyle it represents. We should remember that addiction can happen to everyone regardless of wealth or financial status.  
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It'mostly the poor that gamble basically because of money, for th rich, it's more of a socialization thing that calms thier nerves down whenever they are done with the days business and some will in most cases catch up with friend and just gamble to show thier superiority in the game and some might in so doing go the extra mile and while away to good amount of money.

One of the first gambling that's more of a local one I started and kind of saw people around me dong is playing of draft. It's mostly done among working class men that have hard experience in draft playing and they just come to a location after they are done with the days job and play among themselves and for them, the money stakes isn't a big concern but what they are mostly after is that i won in today's game and i have the greatest win for the week. That's also applicable for me most other physical gambling.

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I had a friend like this, he played with like 90%+ chance to win stuff, if it was dice then it was 90%+ and if it was sports then 1.10 or something odds etc etc, the idea he had was that if he wins 85/100 of the bets, he loses money but he won 85 times and that should be the only thing that cares.

I believe that we should be something that could be getting better. I am not saying that it will get any different on the long run, we should be considering the situation to be the thing that matters the most to him. If he wins the bets but loses money overall then he would be quite happy about the situation without a doubt. I personally believe that the best thing we could do right now is to let those people have whatever they want.

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April 04, 2024, 12:19:41 PM
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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

Because no man stops chasing for money, if the rich do then they will still investing and will withdraw all the liquidity they have and go back to zero level but they can't do that because they need to maintain and sustain their status.

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?


It is a way of life for them, they have fun that way. If you have a way you get your fun you still see yourself running back to it.


I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Well in life you need to follow your heart where it is happy. Do what makes you happy in moderation so that it doesn't also infringe on another person's happiness.

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Indeed, gambling addiction is often more about the thrill of winning rather than the actual monetary rewards.
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But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?

If there are gamblers who are rich who play in the casino, it is because they think that gambling will make their money grow even more when they win 

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so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

If there are rich or athletic people who are addicted to gambling, it's probably because it's their only hobby that makes them happy even though they know in
themselves that it doesn't bring them any good when they're slowly sinking into debt.


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It's about that high, that feeling of cracking the code, not money. You start with a dream that changes. It becomes a warped craving for that thrill, that feeling of beating the system

Rich guys and celebrities are caught too. Why? Money to burn isn't the issue. It's the game, thrill, and social scene. For now, it's about power and life. However, that's the trap. Filing a hole, seeking significance they can't find elsewhere

High-rollers feel that emptiness. They live in a privilege bubble where people tell them what they want to hear. The gamble is a unique problem they can't buy out of. The main draw is feeling in charge, even for a time. But it's a deception, a brief high, and that's the tragedy

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I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?

Well in life you need to follow your heart where it is happy. Do what makes you happy in moderation so that it doesn't also infringe on another person's happiness.

An ascetic life is not the first idea that comes to our minds when we think about a fulfilling life. For many people, happiness is one of the main goals in existence, and pleasurable activities are a fast way to get happy.

But, as Epicurus said (even if he has been commonly misunderstood as an advocate of the rampant pursuit of pleasure), a person can only be happy and free from suffering by living wisely, soberly, and morally. So, if these activities you mentioned bring only temporary happiness, but because of lack of moderation they become a source of grief in the long run, addiction should be corrected.

He also said that humans are always looking for wealth and power, and when rich people seek the winning sensation, I think that the motivation to gamble has a lot to do with the latter.

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The reality is that most gamblers, and specially the most addicted ones, are usually people without much money to begin with.

Most millionaires would rarely gamble. As you mention, there's little point for them to do that.

They can instead enjoy many other activities with the money they have.

Gambling is basically paying for chasing the fantasy of becoming a millionaire, which they already are.
I have to agree on your point. While gambling also entertain us, but majority still gamble to make money, and you won’t expect for millionaires still aim to make more money as they have it already. So what they are looking for is purely to have fun and relieve theirselves from stress, and once they get over it, they will not gamble more often, hence they are not prone to addiction.

But for low income earners, they gamble to make money. But the more they gamble, the bigger the losses they’ve been acquired. Eventually, if they lose their self-control and discipline, then gambling addiction will follow.

If we compare then yes I would agree with the idea that more people put the goal of earning in gambling than the idea of just having fun, one of the reasons is because there are still quite a lot of other things that can be made into entertainment without involving the possibility of losing if for example what you want is nothing more than to seek pleasure, but what happens? yes the population of gamblers is increasing and I am sure that there are some of them who hide behind the idea of "entertainment" where they actually come to "multiply". For the rich I'm sure that most of them just use gambling as a place to fill their empty boring time because logically they already have a sure way to actually make money such as from the various businesses they do that eventually make them rich, so this is quite reasonable to be the reason that the rich mostly use gambling as a place to relieve stress for a moment.

Background can be a triggering factor about the purpose of someone coming to gambling, such as those who have low finances in their lives which I think it is quite reasonable for them to assume and assume that gambling can be used to make money, or even some of them instantly believe and say that gambling can be used as a medium to change fate, but the fact is that gambling is not for that, which in the end yes instead of earning but what happens is that they experience a lot of losses.

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Most of those guys have already tried every entertainment and luxury in the world and they don't have any idea on how to use their money anymore that's why they play not to double their money but to entertain themselves while also having some fun in their way. Well, we can't have such kinds of mindsets especially if we are only earning enough for our essential needs because it might end up badly just like for anybody else who took gambling the other way around where they make it seem like their daily activities and they cannot seem to complete their day when they don't play, in other words, we call it addictions.

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Gambler never get satisfied with his earning and wishing for more as a result of which they don't have any limit of gambling but regularly put bet just to get a chance of winning a jackpot to satisfy their dreams.

Not everyone is gambling for money but some rich people are gambling just for fun and to spend their day as a busy person. But most of people are also creating more dreams in their heart and their dreams never ends so for such dreams they do not happy with little amount.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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April 05, 2024, 01:43:13 PM
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Rich guys and celebrities are caught too. Why? Money to burn isn't the issue. It's the game, thrill, and social scene. For now, it's about power and life. However, that's the trap. Filing a hole, seeking significance they can't find elsewhere


i agree with that. what makes them addicted is how gambling provides excitement, not money. gambling makes them feel something that they can't get and it makes them addicted to playing it, because they think that it is entertainment that can increase their dopamine.

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April 05, 2024, 03:31:33 PM
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Gambler never get satisfied with his earning and wishing for more as a result of which they don't have any limit of gambling but regularly put bet just to get a chance of winning a jackpot to satisfy their dreams.
We all want to earn more as we gamble and despite many wishes to just have fun and don't want to win. Or it's their way of accepting the fact that they'd never win and put the reason of just having fun.

Whether you win or have the money, it's all about your time and effort that has been exerted in gambling and you're the only one to do it regardless of how tough the day is with your losing streak.



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April 18, 2024, 09:52:47 AM
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When I started gambling my mindset is solely about winning some cash to better my life but the more I gamble, the more that idea shifts. The money no longer satisfies my initial goal but the idea of winning does.

But even with those ideals in play, why would a millionaire start gambling in the first place?  

so why would a rich athlete or politician become so addictive to gambling?

I think socialization+joy+drinking+gambling is satisfaction to them. What do you think?
this is like asking why a Millionaire still investing in other businesses?

the answer is the same , It Is about EARNING" and that is millionaire wanted as always.

like in gambling , they gamble because they wanted to double or more their money and that is obvious mate.

though that is given they wanted fun and to enjoy but the main reason is to win and make more money from this.

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April 21, 2024, 12:20:36 AM
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There are other forms of addictions where there are no chance of making money, but people still get hooked to these things because they derive pleasure from it. 

We can look at this in a scientific manner. When people do something “fun” their brain basically gets rewarded by a hormone called dopamine. This hormone dopamine is actually responsible for making habits. So if you do an activity you receive the dopamine your brain will most likely want to do it again and again.

So that is why it’s addictive and very difficult to stop.

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If it is a land based casino, then you will find socialization is the reason why people gamble online, there are also some rich people who like to gamble online and socialization may not be the reason that only rich people like to gamble online and prefer privacy . If a rich person is not addicted to travel and he can't discipline himself, I think this kind of addiction is not good at all because you will end yourself with this gambling addiction.
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