AI generated content by newbies

[SamReomo]

A few minutes ago when I found a thread and I was about to share my opinion and suggestion in that thread then I thought of checking that thread for AI content. I copied the content of the thread and checked those on two AI content detecting sites that were suggested previously by Nutildah in AI Spam Report Reference Thread, and after testing I found the thread was an AI generated one.

Many of the reputed members of the forum have replied in that thread without noticing that the content was AI generated and the one who posted it used AI content generators to create the content of that thread. First I thought to report that thread on Nutildah's AI Spam Report Reference Thread, but then I thought I may create this thread to get some opinions that what can we do against the newbies that use AI generators to create content.

The following is the thread that's generated with AI AI generated thread, and I have already reported that thread to moderators and administrators so that they could remove that thread.

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically get flagged as AI generated content so the reputed members may not reply to that post/thread and just report it when they see that flag. I mean if it's possible to make a patch where users get information about AI generated content then they may not waste their precious time in replying to such posts/thread which aren't written by a human but are generated by bots. I need your valuable feedback and I also want to know that is it even possible to make a patch that could flag such content?

[Nwada001]

Not a programmer, but this might look like it will take a lot of work to achieve something like enabling and granting some third party access to the forum data, where those tools can automatically be used to access any content that's posted in the forum, and if it's likely to be AI, it will be reported back to the forum to give the automatic flag warning to others.
 
Some AI-generated posts, if you read through them, you can ordinarily guess they are AI-generated before you can use any tool to confirm your suspicions. The way most newbies are found if using AI to generate text most of the of the time, I ignore some of their long paragraph threads without even giving them a second thought.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically get flagged as AI generated content so the reputed members may not reply to that post/thread and just report it when they see that flag.

Forum admins will have to code and run their bot to scrap forum posts and use like APIs to connect AI-generated content detectors to check.

It is a complicated procedure and can bring some security issue for the forum so I guess admins will not do it.

There is report button and there are forum moderators to handle reports include AI-generated posts.

Manipulated media on X and their very complicated procedure to handle it. Users at the end can appeal too.

[Alpha Marine]

I used 3 of the AI content-detecting sites in that thread and I got the same result. I usually don't check before but I think I'll do that more often henceforth. Also, before reporting I'll suggest that you leave and advise on the thread so the OP knows that what he's doing is against the laws of the forum just in case he does it again and claims ignorance.

For the AI detection feature, I think it's best if we humans do it ourselves. Check and report. A user might get away with one or two posts, but before long he would be fished out, and when one post has been figured out, other of his posts will be scrutinized too.
If it cannot be exploited and won't complicate things the feature won't be a bad one, but I believe it would be very complicated to build.

[criptoevangelista]

Here on the forum I find it difficult to implement this, perhaps some user can create a script to facilitate verification and then anyone who wants can join the script... I also don't know if this is easy or if it is possible to create

As things stand, there will come a point where fighting the AI will be like trying to dry ice with a cloth... A never-ending fight, unfortunately

[Davidvictorson]

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically get flagged as AI generated content so the reputed members may not reply to that post/thread and just report it when they see that flag.

I read an article on techcrunch.com. According to the article, they are working on a way to “watermark” AI-generated content. The idea is that an AI generated text would have an unnoticeable secret signal like they said that would indicate that the text is from AI and not written by a human. Aside OpenAI other companies such as Alphabet (GOOGL.O),Meta Platforms (META.O), Anthropic, Inflection, and Amazon.com (AMZN.O) also agreed to watermarking AI-generated content. It's been two years now and we are yet to hear of its launch. Maybe it is still in its testing phase before release.

Until then it is left for us to use the manual method for detecting AI generated contents.

I think that any user who uses AI for generating content should just write source - AI just as we would when we reference a text from any other internet sources.

[Jawhead999]

AI generated content is just like plagiarism, you will find some users will reply on those thread (I could be one of them), mostly it's easy to detect, when a newbie create a wall of text post it's high likely using AI... but if the user have few merits, sometimes it's quite harder.

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically get flagged as AI generated content

I don't think people will like it, it would be similar to like, dislike, emoji etc in social medias.

I mean if it's possible to make a patch where users get information about AI generated content then they may not waste their precious time in replying to such posts/thread which aren't written by a human but are generated by bots.

Probably if the content worth to discuss, it won't be deleted. Because there are many AI generated contents that still exist until now.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

what can we do against the newbies that use AI generators to create content.

Many of these newbies were doing that on purpose because they realized that the use of AI is not against the forum rules and regulations, if it were to be part of the rules, they wouldn't dare to make use of AI since they know it will have the same repercussion of getting banned as being plagiarized, I don't see a difference from someone who plagiarize from the one who uses AI on posts, after all, they believed they are not going to be banned for doing so, instead they will go after their bounties with that and continue spamming.

[Shamm]

what can we do against the newbies that use AI generators to create content.

Many of these newbies were doing that on purpose because they realized that the use of AI is not against the forum rules and regulations, if it were to be part of the rules, they wouldn't dare to make use of AI since they know it will have the same repercussion of getting banned as being plagiarized, I don't see a difference from someone who plagiarize from the one who uses AI on posts, after all, they believed they are not going to be banned for doing so, instead they will go after their bounties with that and continue spamming.

This must be in mind or a newbies as we think that using AI is not good to fullfil our lapses or knowledge. Actually like what you said mate you are right using AI is like that user is cheated or plagiarizing some text and claim that they are the owner but in reality it's not. Anyways we all know that AI can make our work faster than usual but we need to think twice or even thrice what are the possible outcome when we use AI like here in forum. If we are using AI and then we got caught one thing for sure we will face the consequences.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically get flagged as AI generated content so the reputed members may not reply to that post/thread and just report it when they see that flag. I mean if it's possible to make a patch where users get information about AI generated content then they may not waste their precious time in replying to such posts/thread which aren't written by a human but are generated by bots. I need your valuable feedback and I also want to know that is it even possible to make a patch that could flag such content?

This can be achieved if the forum admin actually wanted to build and implement something like that in the forum, but would he do it or would he prefer to let it be done the manual way where other users like you would just use an AI checker to detect AI-generated threads? 

If we can have something like Bpip.org, which keeps track of several pieces of information about a user's profile, and we also have other important tools that are used to go back to deleted or edited content, then I think that it is very possible to integrate an AI checker into the forum without giving it access to the forum data.

[Eternad]

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically get flagged as AI generated content so the reputed members may not reply to that post/thread and just report it when they see that flag. I mean if it's possible to make a patch where users get information about AI generated content then they may not waste their precious time in replying to such posts/thread which aren't written by a human but are generated by bots. I need your valuable feedback and I also want to know that is it even possible to make a patch that could flag such content?

Using the report button is still the best on handling post that you suspect as an AI post this way we can have the mods look meticulously on report rather than automatically flagging while the tools that we use on this AI content sometimes show a false positive on some content especially to those post that modified with a touch of other tools to improve their post quality.

I believe most of the report is handled properly so far because we are free to raise a concern in Meta in case the moderators handled the report improperly.

[Rikafip]

I mean if it's possible to make a patch where users get information about AI generated content then they may not waste their precious time in replying to such posts/thread which aren't written by a human but are generated by bots.

Let's be honest, there are bunch of users that don't actully care whether post has been written by a bot or not as they mainly see a new topic as a chance to dump their signature quota so they don't see it a time wasted at all.

I need your valuable feedback and I also want to know that is it even possible to make a patch that could flag such content?

I don't think that something like that is possible or that theymos should waste his resources on it. Much easier solution would be to actually be more harsh with those who use AI chatbots to plagiarize.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Unfortunately, not all content written by AI is removed from the forum. I recently sent a lot of reports on AI, but the moderators deleted only a few. It is not clear for what reason, although the evidence was one hundred percent.
In addition, some users continue to respond to the topic, even when you clearly state that the topic is plagiarism. After it is deleted, users understand that they need to read the warnings.
Therefore, until there are explicit rules against AI and until posts are deleted for everyone, not just beginners, you need to fight AI only in the Nutildah topic.

[uchegod-21]

A few minutes ago when I found a thread and I was about to share my opinion and suggestion in that thread then I thought of checking that thread for AI content. I copied the content of the thread and checked those on two AI content detecting sites that were suggested previously by Nutildah in AI Spam Report Reference Thread, and after testing I found the thread was an AI generated one.

There are some posts that are obviously AI generated. I mean 100%. These types of posts, you don't need to run it in any AI check app. With the way the grammars are connected and most times indirect usage of tenses and generization of ideas and options, you will know it is an AI generated text.
Talking about reputable forum users contributing in a thread without knowing that it is AI generated. That is not a much problem because AI generated texts are always perfect and error free. So, we shouldn't blame anyone who joins such discussion. Besides, detecting AI generated texts is not an exclusive function of reputable members of the forum.

[acroman08]

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically

Would be good to have but I'm not even sure if this kind of feature can be put on this forum.

I saw SquirrelJulietGarden post that it could be possible but I'd like to see more opinions from other members that also has an experience in this kind of field.

[FinneysTrueVision]

It is now gone but the post and its replies can still be seen here. Some of the people responding to that thread are also accused of being AI spammers, such as Blitzboy. I happen to agree with those accusations against him since it is clear his reply was created artificially.

The best thing to do is report the post but with some signature campaigns incentivizing AI spam, we will continue to have people creating accounts to farm merit by creating low quality content and other spammers amplifying their posts. The amount of reported content might be overwhelming that it might take a while before it is handled by moderators.

[ABCbits]

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically get flagged as AI generated content so the reputed members may not reply to that post/thread and just report it when they see that flag.

Aside from what other member said, cost of checking all posts might be problematic. https://ninjastic.space/ currently say there are 4752 posts created in last 24 hours. Many paid AI text detector use pricing based on total words, so it's hard to estimate minimum cost needed for this feature. But such tool isn't very accurate, so you probably need to use multiple service which increase the minimum cost further.

[Mrbluntzy]

Many of the reputed members of the forum have replied in that thread without noticing that the content was AI generated and the one who posted it used AI content generators to create the content of that thread. First I thought to report that thread on Nutildah's AI Spam Report Reference Thread, but then I thought I may create this thread to get some opinions that what can we do against the newbies that use AI generators to create content

I noticed that on the forum we have the report button on each thread and we also have a thread that is specifically designed to report Plagerism and AI topics but seem that's not  enough to caution the rate at which newbies are still persistent in using AI to write topics and comments which is against the forum policy. What I suggest is that any newbies that is found guilty of this act should be temporarily ban for some weeks with a strict warning of getting permanent barn if they still continue to use AI content generator.

Anytime I come across a topic that I'm interested to drop my opinion, I don't usually bother to check if it was a topic created using AI and that's also common among those reputable members who makes their comments of AI topics. The solution to a problem like that is to build a means that totally prevents users from publishing AI topics and comments on this forum.

[Fiatless]

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically get flagged as AI generated content so the reputed members may not reply to that post/thread and just report it when they see that flag. I mean if it's possible to make a patch where users get information about AI generated content then they may not waste their precious time in replying to such posts/thread which aren't written by a human but are generated by bots. I need your valuable feedback and I also want to know that is it even possible to make a patch that could flag such content?

The problem with these AI tools is that there are no standard means of measuring and identifying posts written by AI. Most of the members that engage in searching for these AI-generated contents have to rely on more than one detector and it is really hard work. Having such a package that could identify these artificially generated texts will be ideal because it will save lots of stress for these hardworking members who detect these cheats and it will also keep the forum clean. I have always thought that some features will be difficult to implement in some platforms but the advancement in technology has proved that nothing is impossible.

[Lucius]

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Many of the reputed members of the forum have replied in that thread without noticing that the content was AI generated and the one who posted it used AI content generators to create the content of that thread.

I try to check every OP before answering, especially if it's newbies and classic shitposters - but we can't expect all members to have such high standards when it comes to fighting against AI, plagiarism, spam and low value posts. Those who do not check if they are communicating with AI could often find themselves in a situation where their posts are deleted as a result of the entire thread being deleted.

Can we have a feature where the AI generated content automatically get flagged as AI generated content so the reputed members may not reply to that post/thread and just report it when they see that flag.
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I don't think it's something achievable, and I wonder how it would even be possible to have something like that on the forum. After all, anyone can check every post in at least three AI detectors in less than 1 minute - you open three detectors in three tabs and paste the post - if all detectors show that it is AI content, instead of the post, make a report to the moderator.