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This thread will serve as a repository for AI spam references in instances where posts written using AI (ChatGPT) cannot immediately be recognized as so.

The thread works like this:

When you wish to report a post as being "AI spam," particularly for posts that might not be explicit spam but still generated by AI, you can include a reference link in the report to your own post in this thread, which will contain results from AI detector analyses of the post. When adding an offending account to this thread for the first time, your post should include three or more examples of AI-generated posts by that account. Subsequently, each time the account makes an AI-generated post, those posts can be individually added to this thread, if necessary.

Here are the criteria that will be used to determine whether or not a post was either wholly or partially made using AI (as originally referenced in this thread):

  • At least 2 of the 6 AI content detectors mentioned below must give a result of the post having a strong likelihood of containing AI-written material (with "strong likelihood" defined for each one):

    1. Hive Moderation* - 70% likely to contain AI generated text or above
    2. Writefull GPT Detector - 70% likely to come from GPT-3, GPT-4 or ChatGPT or above
    3. Writer AI Detector - 30% human-generated content or below
    4. Copyleaks AI Content Detector - 70% probability for AI or higher
    5. Contentatscale AI Detector - 30% likely to be human or below
    6. Sapling AI Detector - 70% Fake or above

    (Pay-to-use AI detectors have been excluded to keep verification accessible to all)
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  • There must be at least 3 posts by the account that meet the requirements specified in A. If its just a one-off or even two-off, the poster may deserve some leniency, but if they make a habit of it, their posts should be reported as "AI spam."
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  • Clues to help identify an AI poster before putting their posts through the detection process include:

    - using perfect English & punctuation when the poster's previous posts did not
    - writing long texts in rapid succession, when it was unlikely to be possible manually
    - their posts are frequently riddled with phrases mentioned here.


This approach primarily reinforces reports concerning "AI written" or "AI spam" content. It also serves as a public means to highlight accounts engaging in such behavior, potentially discouraging others from doing so in the future.


*Note that if a post does not meet the minimum word/character count for analysis by a AI detection tool, you can simply repeat the post (double-paste) until it reaches it (this does not affect the quality of the analysis). Longer posts are of course better for this purpose.

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June 16, 2023, 07:55:42 AM
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Post format example:


Username: cryptodude

Post #1:

Bitcoin offers several benefits that make it an attractive asset and financial technology. Firstly, Bitcoin operates on a decentralized network, known as blockchain, which means that it is not controlled by any central authority, such as a government or financial institution. This decentralization provides individuals with greater financial freedom and removes intermediaries from transactions, resulting in lower fees and faster settlement times. Additionally, Bitcoin is a digital currency that can be sent and received globally without the need for traditional banking systems. It enables cross-border transactions with ease, making it a viable option for remittances and international commerce. Moreover, Bitcoin's limited supply, capped at 21 million coins, gives it a deflationary nature, which some see as a hedge against inflation and store of value. These features have contributed to Bitcoin's popularity and position as a unique and innovative form of money.

Hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI
Writer: 28% human


Post #2:

Predicting the future of the crypto market is an extremely challenging task. The crypto market is highly volatile and influenced by various factors, including global events, regulatory developments, technological advancements, and investor sentiment. While some analysts and experts may provide insights and opinions on potential market movements, it is important to remember that these predictions are speculative in nature and should be approached with caution. Making investment decisions based solely on predictions can be risky. It is advisable to conduct thorough research, stay informed about the latest news, and consider multiple perspectives before making any financial decisions in the crypto market.

Hivemoderation: 99.8% likely to contain AI
Contentatscale: 28% human


Post #3:

Altcoins, or alternative cryptocurrencies, have experienced a variety of outcomes over time. Some altcoins have thrived and established themselves as significant players in the cryptocurrency market, gaining popularity and widespread adoption. These altcoins have proven to have unique features, innovative technologies, or specific use cases that differentiate them from Bitcoin, the most well-known cryptocurrency. However, other altcoins have struggled to gain traction or maintain their value due to various factors such as lack of utility, poor development, or market volatility. The fate of altcoins largely depends on their ability to solve real-world problems, attract user interest, and adapt to changing market conditions. As the cryptocurrency ecosystem continues to evolve, altcoins will continue to face challenges and opportunities, shaping their individual paths in the ever-changing landscape of digital currencies.

Hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI
Contentatscale: 25% human

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Example #2:


Username: Sethrey

Post #1:

The United States has never defaulted on its obligations in its entire history, and there are several factors that make a default highly unlikely. It's crucial for investors and market participants to base their decisions on thorough analysis of economic indicators, government policies, and historical data, rather than being solely influenced by fear and speculation. By maintaining a balanced and informed perspective, one can make more accurate assessments of the market and avoid making decisions solely based on the fear of a U.S. default.

Hivemoderation: 89.1% likely to contain AI
Writer: 7% human


Post #2:

However, it's important to note that the value of cryptocurrencies can be highly volatile, especially during times of economic uncertainty. While some cryptocurrencies may see their value increase during times of war, others may see a decrease in value. Therefore, while cryptocurrencies can be a practical option for some people during times of war, it's important to carefully consider the risks and potential downsides before investing. It's always a good idea to diversify your portfolio and not rely solely on cryptocurrencies as a means of protecting your assets.

Hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI
Contentatscale: 11% human
Writer: 4% human


Post #3:

While high taxes could discourage some individuals from using crypto or investing in blockchain technology, it's important to note that taxes are a necessary component of any economy. It's also possible that governments will implement a flexible tax model that promotes healthy growth of the crypto industry.

In any case, it's crucial for the crypto community to work with regulators and policymakers to develop clear tax guidelines that are fair and equitable for all parties involved. This will help to foster a more stable and sustainable environment for the nascent industry to thrive and reach its full potential.

Hivemoderation: 99.1% likely to contain AI
Writer: 12% human

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June 17, 2023, 08:14:33 AM
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@nutildah
Is there a particular reason you suggest using those AI detectors and not some others? Are they more likely to detect automated content compared with some competitors.
I wanted to suggest two more AI classifiers that can get the job done and don't require you to register an account, pay for the service, etc. If you have any comments on their quality, don't hesitate to speak up.

https://gptzero.me/
https://platform.openai.com/ai-text-classifier

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Some AI detectors.

https://contentdetector.ai/
https://writer.com/ai-content-detector/
https://contentatscale.ai/ai-content-detector/
https://x.writefull.com/gpt-detector
https://hivemoderation.com/ai-generated-content-detection
https://paraphrasingtool.ai/ai-content-detector/
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Here are the report results for the above examples, each post was reported as "AI spam":



Would they have been deleted without the additional link reference appended to each report? Hard to say. Just to make it clear what I'm putting in each report, it looks like this:



with the link being to the post that contains the results of the AI analysis.



@nutildah
Is there a particular reason you suggest using those AI detectors and not some others? Are they more likely to detect automated content compared with some competitors.

I chose them for a few reasons:

- in my testing they seem to provide the most reliable results, although they're still not perfect
- they give a % as a result, which is more granular than something like "Your text is likely to be written entirely by AI"
- they are free of charge and don't require registration

I wanted to suggest two more AI classifiers that can get the job done and don't require you to register an account, pay for the service, etc. If you have any comments on their quality, don't hesitate to speak up.

https://gptzero.me/
https://platform.openai.com/ai-text-classifier

gptzero.me seems to do a fairly good job but the problem is the results are hard to compare to analyzers that return percentages; same thing with platform.openai.com which additionally requires creation of an account



Also, for posts like these:

Cryptography and cryptocurrencies can cause different opinions and discussions, and Tether is no exception. It is important to note that my opinion, as an AI model, is based on available information and general knowledge, and may differ from other people's opinions.
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I don't think its necessary to run them through the analyzers -- hopefully the mod will see this giveaway text written in the post. I will, however, be using this post as a reference for a neutral feedback... not sure if I'm gonna do that for every account mentioned here but I might.

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Yes, I also send reports with a note that the text is written by an AI tool.
Notably, the first report showed the user several deleted posts, and he was flagged as an AI spammer. But the person did not understand, wrote me a question, what is the reason for deleting his posts, and after that, he continued to use AI.





He is currently inactive, and I don't know if he had a temporary ban or not. We'll check it out in a few days.




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I'm thinking of lowering the standards for what can be included as AI-assisted because both writer.com and writefull.com are extremely lenient compared to hivemoderation.com.

I want to mention this poster because I am 100% certain that not only is it a bought account but that they are using AI to write posts -- but they are a bit more clever than the other examples because they remove punctuation from their posts, which tricks the detectors. It ends up looking like spam gibberish and nobody will ever read them but they get paid for them anyway.



First of all, nlovric has a registration date of February 03, 2012, yet they wrote this:

2. When and why did you buy your first bitcoin?

Answer: I bought my first bitcoin in 2019 when bitcoin was around $8,000-$9,000. I bought $1500 to $2,000 worth of bitcoins. I do not remember which exchange I used but I sold it a few months later and I do not remember why  Huh

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Post #1: Here's an example of a post with the punctuation removed:

It is crucial to approach the activity with prudence and a focus on risk management when beginning cryptocurrency trading without any prior expertise of technical analysis. Determining entry and exit points for trades becomes difficult without the capacity to analyse charts and indicators. Alternative tactics should be thought of in this circumstance. One strategy might be to focus on fundamental analysis which entails investigating the cryptocurrency underlying project and assessing its prospects for long term success. The likelihood of making winning trades can be increased by choosing cryptocurrencies with solid fundamentals. To reduce the loss of investing in a single dubious cryptocurrency or a shoddy project it would also be wise to diversify your portfolio among several different cryptocurrencies. Finally navigating the volatility and making wise trading decisions can be aided by regularly monitoring the market staying current with news and developments and getting guidance from reliable sources.

Despite the fact that technical analysis is useful in cryptocurrency trading it is not the only strategy available. With proper planning it is possible to handle trade without relying entirely on technical indications.

It comes back as 32.4% likely to contain AI Generated Text, according to hivemoderation.com.

Here it is with proper punctuation:

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It is crucial to approach the activity with prudence and a focus on risk management when beginning cryptocurrency trading without any prior expertise of technical analysis. Determining entry and exit points for trades becomes difficult without the capacity to analyse charts and indicators. Alternative tactics should be thought of in this circumstance. One strategy might be to focus on fundamental analysis, which entails investigating the cryptocurrency underlying project and assessing its prospects for long term success. The likelihood of making winning trades can be increased by choosing cryptocurrencies with solid fundamentals. To reduce the loss of investing in a single dubious cryptocurrency, or a shoddy project, it would also be wise to diversify your portfolio among several different cryptocurrencies. Finally, navigating the volatility and making wise trading decisions can be aided by regularly monitoring the market staying current with news and developments, and getting guidance from reliable sources.

Despite the fact that technical analysis is useful in cryptocurrency trading, it is not the only strategy available. With proper planning, it is possible to handle trade without relying entirely on technical indications.

This version comes back as 99.1% likely to contain AI Generated Text. However, all the other AI text analyzers suggest it is human-written, with the exception of GPTZero which says it has a "moderate likelihood of being written by AI."



Post #2: Here's another example where both commas and apostrophes ('s) were removed:

Though it is normal to worry about a team future it is crucial to keep in mind that Real Madrid is a team with a long history of success and the potential to draw elite players. There will surely be a vacuum left by Karim Benzema departure but that does not mean the squad will not be able to find replacements who are equally as capable. Real Madrid has an extensive network of scouts and an excellent eye for spotting potential players. Martinez and Osimhen are undoubtedly talented young players with promise but it is important to remember that there are other possibilities on the transfer market. Real Madrid will consider all of their choices before making a choice taking into account a player abilities flexibility and general fit with the team playing philosophy. Have faith in the club leadership and their capacity to decide what is best for the team going forward.

By itself, hivemoderation.com says it is 99.1% likely to contain AI Generated Text.



Post #3: They are also using ChatGPT to re-write quoted posts, which is maddeningly stupid:

Now Madrid also seems to want to strengthen their defense. Fran Garcia was sent home from Vallecano for just 5 million to match his current left-back performance. Even though in this case there are Alaba and Mendy, but with rumors that there are rumors that they will let Mendy go, it seems they want to be prepared at the start, besides that, the names Cancelo and Davies are also still associated with Madrid.

As for the current Strikers, they still have to wait for what steps they will take. Many names have been rumored with Madrid this time but all are still at the same stage only around rumors and speculation that cannot be confirmed. Hopefully they are really serious about finding a replacement now.
With the recent addition of Fran Garcia from Vallecano for a rumoured sum of only 5 million Madrid commitment on bolstering their defence is clear. Alaba and Mendy are already on the team as left-backs, but rumours of Mendy likely exit suggest the club wants to make sure they have enough backup from the beginning. The expectation surrounding their defensive additions has also been increased by the names Cancelo and Davies being mentioned in connection with a potential transfer to Madrid.

Regarding the department that is on strike, Madrid appears to be exercising greater restraint and carefully weighing their choices. Although many names have been linked to the club in different rumours nothing tangible has been done so far. As the suspense grows supporters and onlookers can only hope that Madrid is sincerely committed to finding a good replacement. Madrid must approach their search with seriousness and attention because the transfer market is a place of uncertainty where rumours and speculation rule.

Clearly AI didn't know that Strikers was in reference to a football position so it re-wrote the text as "department that is on strike," lol.



Post #4: Here's one more example where commas and apostrophes are removed, and he tacked on his own intro sentence at the beginning (hivemoderation.com says the rest of it is 99.9% likely to contain AI written text):

Yes, Regarding the laws of Bitcoin trade in some countries you raise a crucial point. Before engaging in Bitcoin trading or other cryptocurrency related activities people must be informed of their local laws and prohibitions. Forex and Bitcoin both include money yet they serve different functions and have different properties. In the world of cryptocurrencies Bitcoin functions as a decentralised digital asset with the possibility for transactions and investment. As opposed to this the term Forex refers to the foreign exchange market where conventional fiat currencies are traded. Each offers advantages and downsides of its own such as Bitcoin higher volatility when compared to FX which can lead to higher risks. The decision between the two ultimately comes down to tastes and circumstances. It is also important to note that one can investigate and participate in both Bitcoin and FX as long as they are familiar with the legal and regulatory landscape of their respective jurisdictions.

In the original version, GPTZero says its "likely to be written by a human," but after adding in the proper punctuation it goes up to a "moderate likelihood of being written by AI."

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I'm thinking of lowering the standards for what can be included as AI-assisted because both writer.com and writefull.com are extremely lenient compared to hivemoderation.com.
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I didn't try writefull.com very often, but it says that it tries to find only ChatGPT written texts. Maybe the problem is in that.

writer.com gives false negative results really often. I don't know why do many use this detector.

Try https://copyleaks.com/ai-content-detector. It gives false negative results too and who probably stole the nlovric's acc would also pass it's check with about just 30+% of AI probability. But comparing to other tools I'd say it works good and I haven't ever seen it giving false positive results yet.

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Try https://copyleaks.com/ai-content-detector. It gives false negative results too and who probably stole the nlovric's acc would also pass it's check with about just 30+% of AI probability. But comparing to other tools I'd say it works good and I haven't ever seen it giving false positive results yet.

OK I'll give it a look next time. I'm thinking that the initial standards I propose need to change b/c they are too rigid... Perhaps it will be something like "any 2 AI detectors that report post text with a strong likelihood of being AI generated" in the future. Ultimately it depends on what the moderators think suffices, and speaking of that, here is the update on the 4 nlovric posts from above that were reported as "AI spam" with a reference link to this thread:


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Okay, let's try. As I see, luckily main part of my collection was worked by someone else as well, but some have not deleted AI posts and not being banned yet.

Let's start with JayTrain. All or nearly all his posts for last months are written by AI. Don't know why isn't he banned yet.

It's great to see the increasing interest of both men and women in Bitcoin as a potential career choice. Bitcoin and cryptocurrency offer opportunities for financial independence and flexibility, which can be particularly beneficial for women managing multiple responsibilities. By choosing Bitcoin as a profession, women can have more control over their time and finances, allowing them to balance family commitments while pursuing their career goals.

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Given the concerns surrounding the dollar crisis and potential bank failures in your country, it's understandable that you are seeking alternative ways to protect your savings and secure your children's future. Investing in Bitcoin as a store of value can be a valid strategy to safeguard against inflation and financial instability. However, it's important to note that Bitcoin is a volatile asset and its value can fluctuate significantly.

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hivemoderation two posts above combined to achieve minimum character number, 99.9%



So now I send a report on these 4 posts and we'll see what will happen, right?

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Let's start with JayTrain. All or nearly all his posts for last months are written by AI. Don't know why isn't he banned yet.

It would appear he's been temp banned as was suggested by lovesmayfamilis... he doesn't seem like the type to just stop posting during a campaign.

I don't see where you are getting these percentages from for Copyleaks. I even signed up to use the Enhanced version and it just says "AI Content Detected".

But I do see what you're doing by combining the two posts into one for hivemoderation. Its better to just copy and paste the same short post twice (or three times) to meet the 750 char minimum. Because if I combine one human post and one AI post it may report that both or neither of the posts are AI (less accuracy).

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Let's start with JayTrain. All or nearly all his posts for last months are written by AI. Don't know why isn't he banned yet.

It would appear he's been temp banned as was suggested by lovesmayfamilis... he doesn't seem like the type to just stop posting during a campaign.

Maybe, but it's what I can't check. I looked through the list of banned ones and didn't see him.

I don't see where you are getting these percentages from for Copyleaks. I even signed up to use the Enhanced version and it just says "AI Content Detected".

"Hover over text."



But I do see what you're doing by combining the two posts into one for hivemoderation. Its better to just copy and paste the same short post twice (or three times) to meet the 750 char minimum. Because if I combine one human post and one AI post it may report that both or neither of the posts are AI (less accuracy).

If I'd combined posts from different users and got a false positive result it could be a problem because it could blame someone with natural text. But here all posts are from the same user.

When it will give false negative result for an AI spammer we can choose some other AI generated posts of him. More text gives better results then several times the same text, because a detector has more patterns can be found.

I combined a couple of your short posts with couple of mine and hivemoderation gave 0%. If there will be any chance of false positive by combining natural posts of a same user then it could be a problem. False negative is a lesser problem IMO. We can just wait for more AI posts of a spammer to catch him.

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Yes, I also use copyleaks for AI text detection. In addition to everything, this application has a convenient extension that allows you to check texts on the fly. I would like to pay attention to the posts of this person, they are very similar to the use of an AI tool, but apparently he edits the posts a little, and therefore copyleaks does not always manage to guess up to 99% accuracy.

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First of all, nlovric has a registration date of February 03, 2012, yet they wrote this:
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Post #3: They are also using ChatGPT to re-write quoted posts, which is maddeningly stupid:
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Shouldn't it be considered as plagiarism? His "answers" are just rewritten posts he answers to.


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Ronaldo presence in the Arab league has significantly changed the way that people view and are interested in the league. More people are now watching games in the Arab league as a result of increased media coverage. No longer is Ronaldo team the only one vying for elite players other teams are also working to bolster their rosters. While there have been rumours that Neymar wants to return to Barcelona qit seems unlikely that he would be prepared to accept a pay cut that would make that happen. Given his injury history and contentious image in Europe it is possible that Neymar will investigate alternative choices including playing in Saudi Arabia.
Undoubtedly, Ronaldo presence in the Arab league has resulted in a number of beneficial developments. Due to his influence the league has attracted more media coverage and fans. Now that other organisations are encouraged to sign top players, healthy competition is promoted. Arab leagues have a chance to entice great players while Neymar's prospective return to Barcelona is questionable. The desire to bolster their lineup is indicated by the rumours that Ronaldo side is interested in Carvalho and Brozovic. A bright and profitable future for Arab teams depends on them continuing to develop a competitive league to draw in and develop talent as Messi departure to the United States offers up new opportunities.
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Lewis hamilton has not yet achieved victory in a race this year but his confidence comes from the comparison of his present performance to that of the previous year. Mercedes had to work hard to close the gap with Red bull in 2022 which proved to be a challenging feat. But making predictions about the future of Formula 1 can be fascinating. It is unlikely that only one driver will pose a danger to Max verstappen in the upcoming season which bodes both uncertainty and excitement. Due to the dynamic nature of the sport teams can significantly improve over the off season and new contenders can appear. While Sergio perez has been a great colleague for Verstappen changes in driver lineups and team plans could result in the introduction of new dynamics. Consequently the upcoming season could bring surprises and a more competitive field.

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Shouldn't it be considered as plagiarism? His "answers" are just rewritten posts he answers to.

Yes, it should. Technically all ChatGPT posts are plagiarism because they are being copy/pasted from another source uncredited, but those ones are especially... Its the equivalent of using a fancy text-spinner, which is also considered plagiarism.



I'm starting to like this Copyleaks utility.

Found another one who quoted a nlovric post.

Post #1:

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Post #2:

It is important to note, however, that historical pricing trends do not guarantee future outcomes. While it is possible that Bitcoin may face another bear market in the future, it is hard to predict when or at what price level Bitcoin would reach during such a market decline. Individuals may be able to make better educated judgments about purchasing and keeping Bitcoin if they regard it as a long-term investment and focus on its foundations and potential rather than short-term price swings.

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copyleaks: 74.6% probability for AI

Post #3:

It is critical to remember that inflation is a complicated economic phenomena that is impacted by a variety of factors. Blaming politicians and central bankers for inflation may oversimplify the situation. Some Bitcoin supporters feel that the cryptocurrency's limited supply, decentralization, and potential as a store of value might provide an alternative to existing fiat currencies while potentially addressing inflation problems. However, Bitcoin is not a cure for all economic problems. It has its own set of difficulties and restrictions. The price volatility of Bitcoin has been a major source of concern, with massive price fluctuations occurring over very short periods of time.

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I think this user is already temp banned. If reports for these posts are all marked as "Good" I will update the OP with the new criteria.

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June 23, 2023, 01:45:38 PM
Last edit: June 23, 2023, 02:05:57 PM by jokers10
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I think this user is already temp banned. If reports for these posts are all marked as "Good" I will update the OP with the new criteria.

My reports on JayTrain's posts are all good. But it is an obvious case. I guess it's about that moderators should see that it is a violation, and if there will be a less obvious case they can probably be not content with just numbers from detectors.

The case mentioned by lovesmayfamilis would be harder. It looks like his posts were written with the use of AI, but it was rewritten a bit to pass the AI detection.



Shouldn't it be considered as plagiarism? His "answers" are just rewritten posts he answers to.

Yes, it should. Technically all ChatGPT posts are plagiarism because they are being copy/pasted from another source uncredited, but those ones are especially... Its the equivalent of using a fancy text-spinner, which is also considered plagiarism.

And nlovric (u=51020) case is over. Moderators agree that it is plagiarism.



I don't like those ones who hack or trade accounts, so it's great!

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And nlovric (u=51020) case is over. Moderators agree that it is plagiarism.

It seems that not entirely, because there has been another forum member who wanted to take merit for the success. I have linked to this thread before without thinking that nutildah could have discovered the cheater before. I don't know what his motives may have been but I'll keep an eye on him.

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It seems that not entirely, because there has been another forum member who wanted to take merit for the success. I have linked to this thread before without thinking that nutildah could have discovered the cheater before. I don't know what his motives may have been but I'll keep an eye on him.

I strongly believe he was an alt of @nlovric that tried to exploit the story to get some free merits. he locked and archived that topic after I posted this:

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Maybe we can find out more, I've written some criteria for determining which account farms this account applies to:

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These topics have become attractive for account farming who have a lot of alt accounts as they can quickly rank up by participating in:

 - spamming Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
 - weekly post in Share your best posts/thread OR HELP ME TO RANKUP TOPICS.
 - The challenges are like the last pizza challenge, and I suppose most of the participants aimed for merits, and then participated using some alt accounts.
 - Making some fake stories like I helped my local community with bitcoin or false claim with the help of beginners.

@nlovric active post at Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion and Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1

So I expect that there will be an army of alt accounts, given the merit record that he sent there are these accounts.

 - Jateng
 - Cheema02
 - petulino

If someone is good at identifying alt accounts, this is a potential list.

The strange thing now is that these accounts are found in the list of accounts to which he sent merits.

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Sent in the last 120 days
Today at 03:43:10 AM: 1 to Cheema02 for Re: Pakistan
June 13, 2023, 12:57:40 AM: 1 to Compromise me for How can we improve our country's economy by on culture or ecosystem?
June 13, 2023, 12:56:55 AM: 1 to Cheema02 for Re: Pakistan
June 08, 2023, 05:33:42 AM: 1 to petulino for Re: Pakistan
June 04, 2023, 03:23:58 PM: 1 to Compromise me for Re: Pakistan

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I strongly believe he was an alt of @nlovric that tried to exploit the story to get some free merits.

Yeah I dunno, could be, people are weird as hell when it comes to merits sometimes. He could even have been trying to earn back his own pay  Cheesy but he did give me credit so who knows.

So I expect that there will be an army of alt accounts, given the merit record that he sent there are these accounts.

 - Jateng
 - Cheema02
 - petulino

OK well let's start with the last one on this list.


Username: petulino

Post #1 (quoting an nlovric post):

The decision to expand the FIFA World Cup field of competitors and choose three hosts gives the competition a new and captivating dimension. Although America serves as the primary host Canada and Mexico cooperative efforts enhance the special occasion. The format of the competition with 48 teams qualifying for each round is still being worked out. When choosing host nations it's crucial to take other aspects into account such as infrastructure and growth potential. The World Cup offers a chance to promote the game and increase its worldwide influence in nations that aren't typically connected with football. Yes its a step in the right direction towards promoting development and passion in the beautiful game is FIFA goal to broaden football appeal and engage new audiences.

This post does the same trick used by nlovric, removing punctuation. Even as is this post comes back 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text according to hivemoderation but 98.3% human for copyleaks. Let's put in the punctuation and remove the last sentence:

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The decision to expand the FIFA World Cup field of competitors and choose three hosts gives the competition a new and captivating dimension. Although America serves as the primary host, Canada and Mexico's cooperative efforts enhance the special occasion. The format of the competition, with 48 teams qualifying for each round, is still being worked out. When choosing host nations, it's crucial to take other aspects into account, such as infrastructure and growth potential. The World Cup offers a chance to promote the game and increase its worldwide influence in nations that aren't typically connected with football.

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Post #2:

SCO has emerged victorious in a nail-biting Cricket World Cup qualifier match winning by a mere 1 wicket in an exhilarating contest. It was an outstanding performance by Scotland as they overcame the challenging target of 287 runs set by Ireland. The match took an exciting turn with Michael Leask phenomenal unbeaten innings of 91 runs off just 61 balls earning him the well deserved player of the match title. His exceptional batting display  along with Watt's crucial contribution turned the tide in Scotland's favor. It was a thrilling match of cricket that showcased the resilience and skill of both teams making it a memorable match for fans to love.

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copyleaks: 60.1% probability for AI

Let's see what happens when we add the punctuation:

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SCO has emerged victorious in a nail-biting Cricket World Cup qualifier match winning by a mere 1 wicket in an exhilarating contest. It was an outstanding performance by Scotland as they overcame the challenging target of 287 runs set by Ireland. The match took an exciting turn with Michael Leask's phenomenal unbeaten innings of 91 runs off just 61 balls, earning him the well deserved player of the match title. His exceptional batting display, along with Watt's crucial contribution, turned the tide in Scotland's favor. It was a thrilling match of cricket that showcased the resilience and skill of both teams, making it a memorable match for fans to love.

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copyleaks: 75% probability for AI


Post #3:

In a remarkable display of skill and determination Oman achieved a stunning victory by 5 wickets successfully chasing down the target of 285 runs in 48 overs with 5 wickets to spare. It was an unexpected outcome considering Ireland reputation as a strong team. The collective effort of Oman batsmen with each contributing around 50+ runs showcased their composed approach to the innings. Zeeshan Maqsood the standout player of the match played a crucial role with his impressive fifty scoring 67 runs and also picking up a vital wicket Oman's performance was truly amazing defying expectations and making their mark in the World Cup qualifier matches.

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copyleaks: 99.9% human

After adding in the appropriate punctuation:

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In a remarkable display of skill and determination, Oman achieved a stunning victory by 5 wickets, successfully chasing down the target of 285 runs in 48 overs with 5 wickets to spare. It was an unexpected outcome considering Ireland's reputation as a strong team. The collective effort of Oman's batsmen, with each contributing around 50+ runs, showcased their composed approach to the innings. Zeeshan Maqsood, the standout player of the match, played a crucial role with his impressive fifty, scoring 67 runs and also picking up a vital wicket. Oman's performance was truly amazing, defying expectations and making their mark in the World Cup qualifier matches.

hivemoderation: 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
copyleaks: 82.3% probability for AI


All these posts appear to be a text-spin of the post they are quoting as well, which means this is almost certainly an alt account of nlovric.

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