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April 05, 2024, 02:35:10 PM
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Recently my thread related to sign of early gambling addiction thread was moved to off-topic. I’m not questioning the mods decision but I want to clarify what’s real rules on what should be on topic discussion on gambling discussion board.

This kind of topic was allowed before since addiction is a huge part of gambling in general. I just want to know what’s the real stand of mods on this kind of topics so we can improve and avoid.

Please create a sticky thread for all the rules on gambling discussion board to have a proper guidelines. Thanks admin!

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April 05, 2024, 02:38:00 PM
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It is possible that some moderators are bored already as they see more topics to be about gambling discussion. But in my opinion, I think gambling addiction threads should be on gambling discussion. It is one if the benefits we have on the gambling discussion board for people to avoid gambling addiction.

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April 05, 2024, 02:45:14 PM
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Yeah, i noticed this too since i replied there. What i can only think is due to "repeated topic/discussion" which is not really, specifically. If you will think on that way, the "addiction topic" threads will be lesser to discuss there since it will be labeled as "off-topic", maybe sports and issue related discussions will only last.

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April 05, 2024, 02:45:59 PM
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Thank you for bringing this up. Another user wrote about something similar some days back.

I am not one of the mods and wouldn't claim to have authoritative knowledge on why this is happening because since that topic till the one, there have been at least two topics in the gambling board that have been moved to.

My guess is that gambling addiction topics have been discussed over and over again that there are no new replies. Just the same thing said in a different way.

Maybe the mods want to see core gambling topics that discusses guides, tips, how tos, reports in sports betting, casino games and other gambling subjects.


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April 05, 2024, 02:47:15 PM
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It is possible that some moderators are bored already as they see more topics to be about gambling discussion.

This is the part which I’m confused, before this kind of topic was allowed because there’s still a lot of old thread that is same with this discussion. I believe last week some mods put a lot of gambling thread on off-topic that’s why I’m curious if something is changed on the gambling discussion board rules.

I understand the part that it’s already boring sometimes but there’s a time that the topic is situational that makes it unique than other related thread.

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But in my opinion, I think gambling addiction threads should be on gambling discussion. It is one if the benefits we have on the gambling discussion board for people to avoid gambling addiction.

I totally agree on this. I use gambling discussion thread to vent all my feelings about gambling that I can express in real life due to my family cuture that doesn’t approve gambling as source of entertainment.

Maybe the mods want to see core gambling topics that discusses guides, tips, how tos, reports in sports betting, casino games and other gambling subjects.

This is exactly what I want to know. What’s the mod preference so that we will be informed the next time we create a topic. Because even sports discussions is just repeating and the only difference is the team involved but the gameplay is usually have same pattern.

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April 05, 2024, 02:49:32 PM
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The way I see it, if it's a topic about addiction in general then it can be "off-topic" or "politics and society", but if it's strictly on gambling addiction, I think the best place for a topic like that is in the gambling discussion board. I don't think there's any gambler on this forum that doesn't visit the gambling board so what better place would you place a topic on gambling addiction so the target audience can see it? I guess the moderator has his reasons, but I feel a topic about gambling addiction should be in the gambling discussion.

Just like @Oshosondy said, I guess the moderators are tired of seeing topics of gambling addiction, but I don't think a topic like that can be overemphasized. Gambling addiction is a problem and all we can do is create more awareness about it. It doesn't mean we'll keep creating the same topics, but different people have different views on a particular matter.

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April 05, 2024, 02:51:33 PM
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Deeply looking towards the gambling board you would see that there are lots of topics or post that are related to gambling addition, where mods or admin could start seeing them as spamming. I think gambling addiction post should be pinned on the gambling discussion board to reduce gambling addiction post.
If any mod move those topics to off-topic board then we can assume that the topic itself is a low quality effort post, instead of the post to belong to the gambling section they may decides to move them to section where it's belongs.

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April 05, 2024, 02:56:43 PM
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I just went and checked my post history upon seeing this post, and I noticed that about 2 threads where I made comments have been moved to off-topic too. Upon visiting off-topic, I can see about 5 different threads relating to gambling discussion, and the contributions in them are gambling-related. 
 
Either the moderators have new news on things that will be seen on the gambling discussion board or the kind of contribution that is given on those threads are the reasons why they move the thread off-topic. I really can't tell, and it will be much appreciated if any of the moderators, at their convenience, can clear the air.

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April 05, 2024, 02:59:57 PM
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Stop creating valueless topics, you will have less topics to be moved to Off-topic board.

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

Days ago, another user ask about similar issue.
Can a moderator be wrong?

You must understand that a topic will be moved to Off-topic or Trash can if it has zero or low value, that's it. Don't think if you create a topic about Gambling but later it will be moved to Off-topic or even trashed.

The Serious Discussion board now is like a circus there. Years after some restrictions from theymos on that board, it has already became another board for spam.

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April 05, 2024, 03:12:08 PM
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Stop creating valueless topics, you will have less topics to be moved to Off-topic board.

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This is very subjective to me either. Aside from sports discussion, gambling addiction or gambling problems will always be part of gambling.

My topic is about experience sharing on how gambling addiction start to each gambler we have different cases due to our gameplay. I personally value opinions on gambling it’s the way we share our hardships on gambling as fellow gambler.

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April 05, 2024, 03:19:14 PM
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This is very subjective to me either. Aside from sports discussion, gambling addiction or gambling problems will always be part of gambling.

My topic is about experience sharing on how gambling addiction start to each gambler we have different cases due to our gameplay. I personally value opinions on gambling it’s the way we share our hardships on gambling as fellow gambler.
My post is generic because I did not check your topic.

Again, another generic fact, two topics about same issue, one can stay and one can be trashed. It depends on how you write it and how quality or value for discussion it has.

Example, two topics about "What is blockchain?"

If your topic has broken idea, information, and more bad things, it will be trashed.

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April 05, 2024, 03:32:17 PM
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This kind of topic was allowed before since addiction is a huge part of gambling in general. I just want to know what’s the real stand of mods on this kind of topics so we can improve and avoid.

I think the mods are looking at gambling addiction threads are more like it is becoming a thing of Redundancy. Even though the issue is a serious one, constantly creating new threads for it with almost same discussions on it is becoming something that bores the mods this days. Or shouldn’t we be looking at it that they might have been people who are actually actively reporting this threads this days, same thing was happening to similar league threads created before and I think the gambling addiction discussion threads is looking like something many People this days do not like and they are reporting it.

One thing I will like to point out is, since if they move the topic to off topic why is that many people do not longer engage on it again, yes there is the issue of not spotting it due to that board been on ignore by some members but the major thing is many people stop posting their because it doesn’t add to their post counts

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April 05, 2024, 04:18:44 PM
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Recently my thread related to sign of early gambling addiction thread was moved to off-topic. I’m not questioning the mods decision but I want to clarify what’s real rules on what should be on topic discussion on gambling discussion board.

I noticed that there have been more and frequent threads that talks about gambling addiction when there are more other aspects of discussions they can create threads on, we just don't have to keep repeated a particular topic or aspect in a discussion when there should be more other relevant contributions or post we can make in which have not been discussed of recent by other members, so i think the moderators are sing more of these and such has given them the urge to make decision on taking some of these related topics to off topic as they may applies.

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April 05, 2024, 06:42:12 PM
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I didn't saw before that such kind of topics would be moved to off-topic. In gambling discussion board you can see similar topics probably daily and when it turn into spam megathread it get locked by mods. But usually it stays there without moving anywhere.
We can only guess what's the reason why topic was moved without hearing something from mod who did it. Maybe their position that there is already enough similar topics and that such topics generate too much spam. But it's only guess.

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April 05, 2024, 06:56:06 PM
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My guess is that gambling addiction topics have been discussed over and over again that there are no new replies. Just the same thing said in a different way.

Maybe the mods want to see core gambling topics that discusses guides, tips, how tos, reports in sports betting, casino games and other gambling subjects.

From my little experience in this forum, most posts are moved to the relevant board within a short time. What makes this issue more concerning is that most of these posts have gained so much attention and comments from posters before they are suddenly moved. If these posts are moved to off-topic a few minutes after they are posted, it will pose less challenge. If the Mods feel that gambling addiction posts will no longer be welcomed in the forum, it should be made public so that such threads will stop springing up consistently. But I think these gambling addiction topics are very important because we should always promote responsible gambling and these threads contains new lessons that can guide gamblers to avoid addiction. But I also agree that original posters should put in some effort before coming up with these gambling topics.

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 You are bothered that if your post(which is gamble related) could be moved to off topic probably because it's like a repetition of other topic treated, why haven't others which seems like yours being treated that way, huh? Well maybe the mods know better. Maybe they became bored by the increasing number of repeated posts on gambling addictions and decided to cut down, only sad thing was they chose to pick your topic.
 No matter how informative you felt the topic was, I feel that since it has been discussed before, you are only making more room for spam, instead of creating a thread for it, why not go and reply in the thread it has already been talked about.

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This topic: "Gambling kills the fun in these two cases" It was created on the gambling board, but it also got moved to off-topic. Since 2022 through last year, I have not seen that topics like these have been moved to off-topic, but from the look of things and judging by more than four similar topics, including yours, that have been moved to the office topics, someone can assume that the reason why moderators decided to move those topics is because they have been discussed over and over again.A user has even suggested in the past that a thread should only be created specifically for gambling addiction discussion, but I think that that idea was ignored.

From my own point of view, those topics actually qualify as gambling topics, but it seems the moderator has their own reasons for moving those topics off-topic. Instead of moving it to an off-topic board, I would have suggested that such a topic  be locked immediately after it gets created.

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This topic: "Gambling kills the fun in these two cases" It was created on the gambling board, but it also got moved to off-topic. Since 2022 through last year, I have not seen that topics like these have been moved to off-topic, but from the look of things and judging by more than four similar topics, including yours, that have been moved to the office topics, someone can assume that the reason why moderators decided to move those topics is because they have been discussed over and over again.A user has even suggested in the past that a thread should only be created specifically for gambling addiction discussion, but I think that that idea was ignored.
Great work in finding these stats, this really indicates that the only reason behind moving these topics to an off-topic section is because the see threads have been made many times. Although I am not a regular visitor to the Gambling section but I have posted there for few times. And TBH I also saw similar kinds of topics in that section and I posted there a long ago.. So if the same type of topics will be discussed again and again I suggest they deserve placed in off-topic.

The uniqueness should be present in the topic, if you are making a topic on gambling addiction, then try to make it more unique so that it won't resemble with the previous ones. I hope you got the point. But I was expecting one moderator to reply to this thread at least. As we don't really see them replying to the acts they do, even if they are right, and we are just exploring the reason, still they don't reply, as I have seen one replying back to us, so I can assume they are not restricted to reply back to us. So, Why are they not here giving some official statement/cause?

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It's obviously not off-topic but the mod who moved the thread to the off-topic board probably has their reason for doing it.

The uniqueness should be present in the topic, if you are making a topic on gambling addiction, then try to make it more unique so that it won't resemble with the previous ones.
I feel like this is one of the reason why it was moved. The mod thought the content was too generic or too shallow(no offense to the OP) and decided to move it to off-topic.

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Great work in finding these stats, this really indicates that the only reason behind moving these topics to an off-topic section is because the see threads have been made many times. Although I am not a regular visitor to the Gambling section but I have posted there for few times. And TBH I also saw similar kinds of topics in that section and I posted there a long ago.. So if the same type of topics will be discussed again and again I suggest they deserve placed in off-topic.

If a topic is repeated and discussed many times, the thread can be locked by the mods. There is no reason to move the thread to ths off-topic section. Also the off-topic section is for "Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners." and not for the repeated topics of others sections to be moved there.

If you visit the off-topic section, you will notice a lot of gambling discussion topics moved recently to the off-topic section including those threads that were very old ones too, for example

Who does gambling addiction affect the most?

Gambling addiction is not about the money you could win; it's about the "win"

Does having children have an influence on gambling habits?

Do you regret also for ever knowing about gambling?

I think the mods need to tell why they moved these topics to off-topic when they clearly belongs to Gambling discussion board.
If there is any change in the gambling discussion topic selection, then it must be communicated across the board to avoid confusions.

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