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April 11, 2024, 12:09:35 PM |
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Nice Idea op but I don't think it's necessary. As long as a post carries quality, a majority of persons would definitely merit it as long as they have some smerits to spare. Every one here has the choice to send some merits of they have some smerits and everyone also has a choice not to send. Most of the time members here can merit posts based on how much they like it so restricting someone from meriting a post that he likes is quite awkward . Also if you come to think of it , who doesn't like it when they earn merits ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) (no one I guess) .if you look closely you would even notice that when you earn merits it gives you some level of confidence on the quality of the post.
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April 11, 2024, 01:00:49 PM |
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What are you saying, does it mean that admins are not part of the forum, or don't also need merits to encourage their quality post for them to see that forum members appreciate their efforts, knowledge or information that they post here.
Merit is like life in the forum, and it also gives some reputation to forum members. It would be annoying to see someone that is not an admin, and contribute less to the forum having a lot of merits more than an admin that runs the forum, and also write quality post. Merits are numbers but those numbers are very important to forum members, be it a newbie or an admin.
If you feel that admins don't need merits, then don't give your own merits to them, but others have the right to merit any post that is quality to them.
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April 11, 2024, 01:01:48 PM |
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I don't think this is necessary or needed. How many times are people going to not want merit. If someone feels a post is notable then let them have the opportunity to say so with merit.
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April 11, 2024, 01:24:56 PM |
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Why is this topic being entertained when those creating the topic are the biggest merit abusers? I do not understand what OP meant as merit is subjected to any member's understanding and as per the admin no one can question merits.
Coming back to the topic, why would the admin care about a request on a platform that is outdated? The answer is NO and I do not think we need to do anything with the current merit system. It is still not a remedy but it is still acting as a force to stop scammers and spammers.
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April 11, 2024, 01:53:11 PM |
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I guess I don't "need" merits, but I use the merits awarded for my posts to determine the popularity and usefulness of my posts. No merits means that I shouldn't make post like that. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 11, 2024, 02:32:59 PM |
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In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people.
Why should we not allowed to Merit posts or threads created by Admins or Moderators when they are useful or helpful. Sounds like you think everybody above 1000 Merits dosnt need them anymore. I think that it helps for sure the Merit circulation as it is right now. OPs suggestions is a very bad one and my vote on that is " No we dont need that "
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April 11, 2024, 03:10:29 PM |
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You've said it yourself that there's not much use case so I'm not really buying that idea if you don't have any confidence in it plus there's so much merits to go around anyway, I don't think that we're going to be losing so much if we let things be, there's some things that are better left alone and it's definitely on of these things, people that deserve the merits should get the merits that they deserve, it's how you show an approval on what that person has to say, nothing wrong with doing that and it's not like everyone hoards their merits, they'll give it away when there's someone that will post something and they do deserve it.
It's also an indicator for the usefulness of the post and a way to gratify yourself that you've done something good.
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April 11, 2024, 03:21:46 PM |
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If introduced, it's not going to be a feature that many members will want to use. Whether you need the merits or not, it's still nice to receive them. It's one of the ways to acknowledge someone's effort. I don't think you'll find many people who don't want that acknowledgement. Also, if you don't care about merits, than you shouldn't care if someone gives them to you or not. I don't think theymos will consider adding this feature.
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April 11, 2024, 03:34:05 PM |
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In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people.
I think this is one of the many merits requests that I think Theymos wouldn’t even have a second thought about. The Admins/Mods are regularly forum users aside their extra works on keeping the forum in order. They need merits just like you do to grow not in rank but at least see that their work is being appreciated or acknowledged when they creates threads. You should also know that merit earning isn’t all about growing ranks alone too but also you have Smerits to share to other members to encourage them more. This smerits will only be needless only if the Mod/Admin is a merit source and his allocation also is large to cover his spread of this merits. So even if the option is added and I am sure it won’t be used
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April 11, 2024, 03:41:02 PM |
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I think this is one of the many merits requests that I think Theymos wouldn’t even have a second thought about. The Admins/Mods are regularly forum users aside their extra works on keeping the forum in order. They need merits just like you do to grow not in rank but at least see that their work is being appreciated or acknowledged when they creates threads. You should also know that merit earning isn’t all about growing ranks alone too but also you have Smerits to share to other members to encourage them more. Another thing. Many staff members participate in signature campaigns just like regular users. Campaign managers have rules that require those who want to participate to earn an X amount of merits in the last X days. If the mods didn't get enough merits or received much less than other quality members, they won't be the manager's first choice despite their forum status.
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April 11, 2024, 03:50:30 PM |
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Another thing. Many staff members participate in signature campaigns just like regular users. Campaign managers have rules that require those who want to participate to earn an X amount of merits in the last X days. If the mods didn't get enough merits or received much less than other quality members, they won't be the manager's first choice despite their forum status.
This is even another valid point I forgot about, not only signature campaigns there are also some campaigns too that we see or giveaways that requires the member to have Atleast some certain amount of merit before they participate. Another signature campaign rule that also which isn't common yet is the one which requires the member to have certain amount merit each week before they get paid. what will happen to rules like this will the admins/mods be restricted from such rules too. This option will certainly not be utilized
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April 11, 2024, 05:50:29 PM |
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Though it does not have much use case but i think while creating a topic when there are so many options like whether it be a self-moderated thread or not, etc, why not add another option that we can restrict or allow if anyone can put merit on the post? In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people. Let me know your comments on this idea ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What's the point of restricting merits? Whether or not someone sends you a merit, it doesn't harm you or your account. Almost every Bitcointalk member wants to receive merits, it's nice and shows you appreciation from other people. Since there will be little to no demand on OP post merit restriction, I think it isn't worth working on solving this problem. A forum should only have features that people regularly use and that the forum needs. Features that many people will not use shouldn't be added.
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April 11, 2024, 08:38:46 PM |
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In general, everyone will allow the OP post to be merited but there can be situations like if any admin or mod, posts a thread he does not need merits and therefore he may restrict the post to be merited, so people and/or the merit sources do not send merits to those posts and rather give merits to ordinary people.
By ordinary people, I take it you mean members with less than 1000 merits. You really cannot help it if members with more than 1k merits are making better contributions to the forum than those with less merit ratio. The merit system was introduce to combat shit posters. Merit is not given to help members to rank up. I agree with this topic, topics like ----> Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1 does not deserve to have send merits option, as it has become a preferred place for merit farming, but such topics are limited and must be manually edited case-by-case by the administrator. If we are going to follow through with this idea then wall observer board should also be restricted because accounts with low quality posts easily increase their ranks by just posting on that thread. Everyone has their opinion of threads that are being exploited for merit farming and deciding which thread to restrict may become an issue for mods.
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This isn't something Theymos is ever going to implement, i think every suggestion should actually solve a particular problem in the forum and this suggestion of yours does not actually solve any problem. Implementing something that nearly "nobody" is going to use doesn't make too much sense to me and that effort can be put into something else.
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April 11, 2024, 10:08:19 PM |
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Let me know your comments on this idea ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) no offense but I think it's completely unnecessary, I mean what's the point, what positive effect will it have in the forum, I'am curious to know. also, as Pmalek has mentioned, not many will use the feature, and it's because despite already achieving the required merit count to reach legendary rank, it is still nice and feels good to receive them.
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April 12, 2024, 09:03:28 AM |
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I don't think this is necessary or needed. How many times are people going to not want merit. If someone feels a post is notable then let them have the opportunity to say so with merit.
Yes that's correct there is not better way if expressing one feeling of satisfaction on a post than this Merritt and also give more motivation to who it's concerned that there is an improvement on its part, try to stop such expression may hider the primary object of the forum which may not work well. I don't think this is necessary or needed. How many times are people going to not want merit. If someone feels a post is notable then let them have the opportunity to say so with merit.
Exactly I really concur to this your statement, there are certain rules or principle that it side effects can kill the original design or purpose of a thing and this idea is not far from it, looking at how merrit is been rewarded , there is nothing wrong with the process for any post to receive merit it shows that there is something to be derive on it going The other way may deprived some quality post and people may not know much about those post the us merritable.
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April 12, 2024, 09:38:37 AM |
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I guess I don't "need" merits, but I use the merits awarded for my posts to determine the popularity and usefulness of my posts. No merits means that I shouldn't make post like that. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Another good point from your opinion and this is right because yes the merits you get can be used to determine the usefulness and impertful your post is to the next user(s). Personally, I have reached out to certain prominent users on post reviews and the post I sent for reviews happen to be the post I feel that was not merited but are worthy to be merited so yes the merits you get from a post will also make you to go as far as making more research since you know how useful it is to the forum, note, that you don't get merit in a post doesn't mean the post is useless also.
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April 12, 2024, 01:43:28 PM |
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The merit system was introduced to make it difficult for account farmers to rank up their multiple accounts. Even with the merit system in place, merit cycling is another way these accounts are increasing their merit. IMO this suggestion is just as useless as the demerit button someone suggested a few months ago. Why should quality posters be denied merits just because they have reached legendary rank. If that happens then we will be giving merits to users out of pity.
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April 12, 2024, 05:30:35 PM |
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Merits are what motivate us to create useful posts and when we accumulate merits we can give merits to other good posts, why would you not allow yourself not to get merited?
It is a form of congratulating you for creating a good post if you create a poll for this suggestion I don't think it will get a vote, if you ask those who love to create threads, the majority of them are hoping to get merits
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April 12, 2024, 07:41:45 PM |
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I'm happy with how the merit system is working so far, but in certain cases I think your idea has some worth too. This doesn't happen in most cases, but if the OP doesn't want merit on his thread then he can create his own local rule as a warning. Asking admin to disable the merit function on certain thread seems possible, but I don't know if admins have ever agreed to it in the past.
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