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April 14, 2024, 05:20:15 AM
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به سراغتان می‌آییم، چکمه پوش و با تیغ ذوالفقار

What we re-learned last night was that it doesn't matter one bit if there is largest and most "advanced" ballistic missile defenses present, it doesn't matter if 10 countries are providing their full support, if NATO has brought all its power to defend, if US/UK/French/etc. air forces are desperately trying to provide air support....

... when Iranian missiles rain, they'll hit their targets.

Last night according to article 51 of United Nations Charter, Iran responded with a small* ballistic missile attack on Israel as a punishment for the terrorist attack on the Iranian embassy in Syria earlier this month. The wave of videos coming out all night showed the skies in occupied Palestine has been lit last night as these projectiles hit the Israeli terrorist bases one by one flattening them.

* ~150 missiles is tiny by Iranian standards otherwise it is categorized as massive scale attack by NATO standards

My favorite video of last night was this one. Here this Palestinian in Gaza is saying that for the first time in the past 190 days there is no Zionist aircraft on top of Gaza, there are no bombs being dropped, there are no kids being slaughtered by the Israeli [terrorists] and for the first time in months they felt safe... Cry

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April 14, 2024, 06:15:50 AM
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Iron Dome once again failed? Tongue

Is this the beginning of their Bloodbath?

I am seeing lot of videos on social media that Israelis are fleeing for their life and they are the one who justified their actions when they do it to others.









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April 14, 2024, 06:47:13 AM
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[Canada] Trudeau's balls are nowhere to be found 🤣

I saw this topic and finally, we have a country that has the balls to curtail the excesses of Israel. This is the first time the Islamic Republic has attacked Israel from its territory, that's great courage. Maybe experiencing a few hours of what Gazians have been experiencing for over six months will make Israeli citizens push out their senseless leaders. It seems America doesn't want to be involved in further escalations.

US 'will not participate in offensive action on Iran', CNN reports

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April 14, 2024, 08:05:11 AM
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Iron Dome once again failed? Tongue
To put simply yes.

To get more technical and from a military perspective, Iron Dome is more of a short range defense system to counter rockets and slow projectiles.
David's Sling and Arrow are the main anti-ballistic missile defense systems that tried and failed last night.

There is still no official statement about the type of the weapons used but from the videos I can guess these were all very low tier munitions focusing on an "overwhelming strategy" instead of "dominating" one. I can also say that the videos show Israeli defense systems tried defending as much as they could and countered some of the incoming projectiles but they got overwhelmed very easily and quickly. Basically they shot down what they were supposed to shoot down and as they ran out of defensive missiles, the important projectiles arrived and easily hit their targets.

In terms of Vertical Escalation doctrine, this strategy by Iran makes perfect sense. To use low tier munitions that can only be categorized as "mussel flexing" while keeping the cost low. The higher tier weapons are kept for next phases of the Vertical Escalation.
In this strategy the side with superior firepower (ie. Iran) launched 2-3 waves of ballistic missile, cruise missile and drones at an adversary with an advanced air defense (10 countries are said to help in that defense last night, that includes US, UK and France). The low-low tier ones are meant to make the ABM systems busy and exhaust their defensive missile supplies as higher-low tier ones are meant to pass the then empty ABM system and hit their targets without any problems.

For example Shahed-136 drones that was used last night is very low tier Iranian loitering munition (at least 12 generations old) and is only used to busy the air defenses while the swarm itself can locate them and one is enough to dive and destroy its batteries and radars.

By the way some sources are reporting that defending Israel last night has cost United States over a billion dollar!!! For comparison: a single unit of Shahed-136 costs about ten grands Cheesy

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April 14, 2024, 09:42:41 PM
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I am actually quite worried on how this could be translated into a bigger military escalation in the region... Sadly, this will only make things harder for people who just want to make peace an option, now Iran ins getting involved. Obviously, Israel did not have any reason to attack and destroy a consulate in a foreign country, it was completely uncalled for...

This may prompt the United States to get even more involved with the defense of Israel and commit more tax money into reinforce the Iron dome in some way so Iran won't get it's way so easily. It is a dark day for us who just wanted this conflict to deescalate and get closer to a ceasefire.

This is awful.

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April 14, 2024, 11:36:37 PM
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By the way some sources are reporting that defending Israel last night has cost United States over a billion dollar!!! For comparison: a single unit of Shahed-136 costs about ten grands Cheesy
According to a report  from Isreal intercepting Iranian missiles and drones cost Isreal up to 4-5 billion shekels ($1.08-1.35B). Furthermore, One ‘Arrow’ missile which Isreal used to intercept an Iranian ballistic missile costs $3.5 million, while the cost of one ‘Magic Wand’ missile (David's Sling) is $1 million. If this escalation becomes a full-blown war, it will be very expensive to fund. Maybe this might be the reason why the US is persuading Israel not to retaliate. These attacks have already affected the price of gas making it rise. Any instability in that region will destabilise the entire world.



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April 15, 2024, 03:59:17 AM
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Maybe this might be the reason why the US is persuading Israel not to retaliate.
The reason is because US will not participate in such an attack knowing what's going to happen to US military if they did and without US it is nearly impossible for the Zionists to even reach Iran (eg. those shitty F35 jets require a couple of refueling to be able to reach Iran's borders, let alone enter the airspace and pass the most sophisticated air defense in existence).

Additionally as Iranian officials announced, any kind of "offensive" against Iran will be responded to immediately and with a force 10 times bigger than this operation which NATO is referring to as the biggest ballistic and drone attack to this date (although it is a tiny attack with Iranian standards).

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