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April 24, 2024, 11:21:57 PM
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This new style for trading has helped people to reach their destination , and it has become easier to achieve . Thus  direction of commerce has changed and it's new form is online commerce which is the meaning of today era.
And while some are discussing about trading isn't a full time job, here goes some about telling that bitcoin isn't a life time job.

There's so much in life and we can't stop people from doing things that we like. It's true that ecommerce has changed nowadays and the same goes in trading.

In life, we've been doing a lot of trades and this is the career that a few risk takers chosen as their paths.
well, trading in real life is very different from trading on the internet. In real life, we carry out trade and transactions with basic needs and whatever we need. Meanwhile, on the internet, we trade the assets we own. If we focus on building a living from trading on the internet, it is possible, but it requires a strong foundation. We have to be able to meet all of life's needs that we have before we can be successful, and that is a difficult thing. In fact, I believe that even professional traders do not focus on trading. They probably have businesses they run out there.
It's true but the logic of trading is there and we carry that for the rest of our lives. So, if it's possible to do it in real world and we do trades for our living.

This is also possible to do in online trading if you're in the crypto market. Whatever the fate is giving you with these opportunities, all you have to do is focus on it and be better because if you're not doing good on it, then someone out there practicing trying to be the best.

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April 25, 2024, 12:46:27 AM
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And while some are discussing about trading isn't a full time job, here goes some about telling that bitcoin isn't a life time job.

There's so much in life and we can't stop people from doing things that we like. It's true that ecommerce has changed nowadays and the same goes in trading.

In life, we've been doing a lot of trades and this is the career that a few risk takers chosen as their paths.
well, trading in real life is very different from trading on the internet. In real life, we carry out trade and transactions with basic needs and whatever we need. Meanwhile, on the internet, we trade the assets we own. If we focus on building a living from trading on the internet, it is possible, but it requires a strong foundation. We have to be able to meet all of life's needs that we have before we can be successful, and that is a difficult thing. In fact, I believe that even professional traders do not focus on trading. They probably have businesses they run out there.
It's true but the logic of trading is there and we carry that for the rest of our lives. So, if it's possible to do it in real world and we do trades for our living.

This is also possible to do in online trading if you're in the crypto market. Whatever the fate is giving you with these opportunities, all you have to do is focus on it and be better because if you're not doing good on it, then someone out there practicing trying to be the best.

Even though trading on the internet and trading in the real world have the same goal, namely to make a profit, I think there are quite significant differences in terms of running it, trading in the real world you only need buyers to spend your merchandise and if no one buys then that means Your goods are durable and can still be sold the next day before they expire, but when you trade on the internet, whether it's trading or investing, it's clear that if you don't succeed in making a profit, your open position misses and leads you to a loss, then in some cases This is where most people experience problems where they find it difficult to control their emotions and find it difficult to truly be in a balanced mental and psychological state.

I understand that if we can focus on doing it then maybe we can minimize the possibility of significant losses a little, but sometimes humans often have difficulty holding back their emotions when they are mentally and psychologically disturbed due to experiencing losses, which means that in my opinion trading in the crypto world is far away. more difficult than regular trading in the real world, the difference is that it involves mental and psychological as well as emotions and this is why many people fail and end up experiencing MC, so trading in the real world can perhaps be used as the main income to meet your needs. life but if we talk about crypto then I think this is too risky, therefore we are always advised to have a main income in the real world if we want to get involved in the world of trading.

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April 25, 2024, 02:20:52 AM
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This new style for trading has helped people to reach their destination , and it has become easier to achieve . Thus  direction of commerce has changed and it's new form is online commerce which is the meaning of today era.
And while some are discussing about trading isn't a full time job, here goes some about telling that bitcoin isn't a life time job.

There's so much in life and we can't stop people from doing things that we like. It's true that ecommerce has changed nowadays and the same goes in trading.

In life, we've been doing a lot of trades and this is the career that a few risk takers chosen as their paths.
well, trading in real life is very different from trading on the internet. In real life, we carry out trade and transactions with basic needs and whatever we need. Meanwhile, on the internet, we trade the assets we own. If we focus on building a living from trading on the internet, it is possible, but it requires a strong foundation. We have to be able to meet all of life's needs that we have before we can be successful, and that is a difficult thing. In fact, I believe that even professional traders do not focus on trading. They probably have businesses they run out there.
It's true but the logic of trading is there and we carry that for the rest of our lives. So, if it's possible to do it in real world and we do trades for our living.

This is also possible to do in online trading if you're in the crypto market. Whatever the fate is giving you with these opportunities, all you have to do is focus on it and be better because if you're not doing good on it, then someone out there practicing trying to be the best.

Never ending enhancement of your knowledge as from time to time another trader will catch up and will create his own pattern to have more winning trades, I like to follow the logic where if you are keen in keep learning the process this venue can be use as your source of income as long as you are doing your best creating your own strategy and not just rely with only one pattern but more on keep improving and keep doing your best to make sure that you are also catching up.

Whatever the improvements that's needed to cope with how the market is developing or where the market is heading you should have that adjustments and good adoptions to make it working still to earn decently.

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April 25, 2024, 05:23:25 AM
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This new style for trading has helped people to reach their destination , and it has become easier to achieve . Thus  direction of commerce has changed and it's new form is online commerce which is the meaning of today era.
And while some are discussing about trading isn't a full time job, here goes some about telling that bitcoin isn't a life time job.

There's so much in life and we can't stop people from doing things that we like. It's true that ecommerce has changed nowadays and the same goes in trading.

In life, we've been doing a lot of trades and this is the career that a few risk takers chosen as their paths.
well, trading in real life is very different from trading on the internet. In real life, we carry out trade and transactions with basic needs and whatever we need. Meanwhile, on the internet, we trade the assets we own. If we focus on building a living from trading on the internet, it is possible, but it requires a strong foundation. We have to be able to meet all of life's needs that we have before we can be successful, and that is a difficult thing. In fact, I believe that even professional traders do not focus on trading. They probably have businesses they run out there.
It's true but the logic of trading is there and we carry that for the rest of our lives. So, if it's possible to do it in real world and we do trades for our living.

This is also possible to do in online trading if you're in the crypto market. Whatever the fate is giving you with these opportunities, all you have to do is focus on it and be better because if you're not doing good on it, then someone out there practicing trying to be the best.
Trading has become very popular now and all youth and generation people are easily choosing trading as their part time income source and many are becoming successful.  But trading cannot be considered as the only source of income because there are losses as well as profits. so it cannot provide a passive income. This income will never be stable.  So it cannot be considered as a source of lifetime or full time income.

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April 25, 2024, 07:11:11 AM
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I'm sure not all traders will agree with me but some could possibly be on my side...

Here are the reasons why;
 1. It is quite stressful - old traders will soon give up due to mental health problems
 2. It is not enjoyable anymore - nobody will stay long in a job that they no longer find themselves comfortable with especially if you are not earning well.
      Most of the time we feel this during bear season.
 3. Trust issue due to Scam growth - traders never find it safe to use exchanges, even big exchanges.



Yeah not all traders will agreed with you but while there's possibility that majority of them will agree with you with what you say, not all traders will find it easy this days. trading now is very stressful to alot of traders out there,I honestly agree with some of the points you pointed out that  TRUST ISSUES DUE TO SCAM GROWTH with this point you can have an miss understanding with your fellow business partner due to LOW growth and hard economic like this.
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April 25, 2024, 01:13:17 PM
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Trading has become very popular now and all youth and generation people are easily choosing trading as their part time income source and many are becoming successful.  But trading cannot be considered as the only source of income because there are losses as well as profits. so it cannot provide a passive income. This income will never be stable.  So it cannot be considered as a source of lifetime or full time income.
Currently, I also see someone who meets all of life's needs just from trading income.
If we look at the uncertainty of the profits we get in trading, it is true that this cannot be our main job, but we also have to look at the overall income or profits we get and I think it can meet our needs in the long term so that in the process trading without pressure to gain fatal profits.

For a lifetime it is not possible, there are many factors that do not allow it, especially health and also changes that occur in trade that make it possible for us not to be able to follow.
Personally, I think the profits in trading are quite large and if someone can manage money well, there are quite a lot of other things or businesses that can be run from the profits from trading or run simultaneously with real life business and trading.
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April 26, 2024, 06:31:09 PM
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Trading has become very popular now and all youth and generation people are easily choosing trading as their part time income source and many are becoming successful.  But trading cannot be considered as the only source of income because there are losses as well as profits. so it cannot provide a passive income. This income will never be stable.  So it cannot be considered as a source of lifetime or full time income.
Currently, I also see someone who meets all of life's needs just from trading income.
If we look at the uncertainty of the profits we get in trading, it is true that this cannot be our main job, but we also have to look at the overall income or profits we get and I think it can meet our needs in the long term so that in the process trading without pressure to gain fatal profits.

Also in trading, if you focus on making money on a daily basis. You are basically putting in unnecessary stress to think of. Because trading should be calm and detach from money. Once you put making money in the situation, psychology feds up and suck. So just make sure to ensure profitability, always focus on the process as oppose to be focusing on the outcome.

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April 26, 2024, 11:58:03 PM
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Trading has become very popular now and all youth and generation people are easily choosing trading as their part time income source and many are becoming successful.  But trading cannot be considered as the only source of income because there are losses as well as profits. so it cannot provide a passive income. This income will never be stable.  So it cannot be considered as a source of lifetime or full time income.
Currently, I also see someone who meets all of life's needs just from trading income.
If we look at the uncertainty of the profits we get in trading, it is true that this cannot be our main job, but we also have to look at the overall income or profits we get and I think it can meet our needs in the long term so that in the process trading without pressure to gain fatal profits.

For a lifetime it is not possible, there are many factors that do not allow it, especially health and also changes that occur in trade that make it possible for us not to be able to follow.
Personally, I think the profits in trading are quite large and if someone can manage money well, there are quite a lot of other things or businesses that can be run from the profits from trading or run simultaneously with real life business and trading.

Definitely, you can't do your trading activity as a lifetime activity. But the profits that you will get from it, you can extend it to your lifetime by investing it in business or assets that will give you source of income later on. As the actual activity is a very tedious one, no one can do it for long time.

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April 27, 2024, 12:41:24 AM
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Definitely, you can't do your trading activity as a lifetime activity. But the profits that you will get from it, you can extend it to your lifetime by investing it in business or assets that will give you source of income later on. As the actual activity is a very tedious one, no one can do it for long time.
There are many such traders who have taken up trading as a hobby and career. Most of the day they sit in front of the monitor and watch the market candles. I have a friend who has created a separate room for trading where he conducts his trading activities with only a single door. Basically there he has three big monitors mounted on the wall and one monitor he has on the table and all the monitors have charts of the coins he will be trading and he is always waiting for an opportunity. Right now he is not doing any alternative work only depending on trading he is managing his family. If he succeeds in this way, he will not think of working and if ever he works, he will not be able to manage his activities in the same way as he is now trading while working because then there will be pressure of work. If full focus can be given to any one job then that job can be taken as a life time career.

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April 27, 2024, 03:05:13 AM
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There are many such traders who have taken up trading as a hobby and career. Most of the day they sit in front of the monitor and watch the market candles. I have a friend who has created a separate room for trading where he conducts his trading activities with only a single door. Basically there he has three big monitors mounted on the wall and one monitor he has on the table and all the monitors have charts of the coins he will be trading and he is always waiting for an opportunity. Right now he is not doing any alternative work only depending on trading he is managing his family. If he succeeds in this way, he will not think of working and if ever he works, he will not be able to manage his activities in the same way as he is now trading while working because then there will be pressure of work. If full focus can be given to any one job then that job can be taken as a life time career.

Your friend must be a professional trader. Your friend must have good finances to meet his and his family's needs. but relying on it from trading alone, probably won't be very good. Maybe at least for now, your friend is still making a good income from his trading.
but the market will not always give traders a profit. I'm sure your friend is not only a daily trader. there are other things he does even though they are still related to crypto.

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April 27, 2024, 05:40:12 AM
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i actually think that trading cannot be used as a long-term job because it is full of uncertainty. because market conditions can change and as we get older our analysis of the market may get worse and that can have an impact on the money we trade. especially as we get older, we need a stable income that can support our lives in the future. and because of this trading may not be a wise choice as a job to earn money for older people, because they need a stable income and do not require special attention like trading.

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April 27, 2024, 10:40:51 AM
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i actually think that trading cannot be used as a long-term job because it is full of uncertainty. because market conditions can change and as we get older our analysis of the market may get worse and that can have an impact on the money we trade. especially as we get older, we need a stable income that can support our lives in the future. and because of this trading may not be a wise choice as a job to earn money for older people, because they need a stable income and do not require special attention like trading.
it is always comes down to that, the uncertainty that causes mental strain, it will eventually become too exhausting for old people that has aged and just can't deal this though.
though I don't really agree with the opinion that the older we get the lacking our analysis become, but I think that could happen due to old age not wanting to get holed up seeing the market trend every day.

definitely establishing a more stable source of income is what worked for the long term, trading works only to boost our income as a side hustle and could help us build our dream business at least thats my opinion on this.
but people that are just talented in trading might consider to just reach financial independence in their young age and then invest whatever profit they've gotten which usually not some small amount since they won't reach financial independence otherwise then live with whatever there's left that they have gotten.

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April 27, 2024, 01:17:49 PM
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I'm sure not all traders will agree with me but some could possibly be on my side...

Here are the reasons why;
 1. It is quite stressful - old traders will soon give up due to mental health problems
 2. It is not enjoyable anymore - nobody will stay long in a job that they no longer find themselves comfortable with especially if you are not earning well.
      Most of the time we feel this during bear season.
 3. Trust issue due to Scam growth - traders never find it safe to use exchanges, even big exchanges.

People actually trade as a full time job and few of them are successful but the reality is that, it's not an easy path. Just as you mentioned, there is risk, stress and lot of challenges in trading profession. Some of these reasons you mentioned can be manageable during trading although they can not be sustainable for a long term but this no.2 caught my attention. I mean why would anyone continue to do something that stress them and doesn't even provide them with a good income? Who does that? Financial reward is the main reason why people trade and if the earnings are not coming, the motivation, passion and interest will definitely disappear.

We have to face the reality, trading may work out well for some people and they may probably make it their lifetime profession but it's not sustainable for everyone please.
Yeah I think crypto should not be a full time job rather it should be a side hustle always until and unless you are financially independent enough that you can live a luxury life till death.

Actually due to uncertainty in crypto it shouldn't be your choice of a full time job neither you should be dependent on it for your daily household activities. The extra income can be a positive thing but if you'll depende on it completely then you can face repercussions.

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April 27, 2024, 02:09:25 PM
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There are people that has earn huge from trading and we should not say it is not a lifetime job.
When you have something giving you money everytime, would you stop doing that same thing because someone said it's not a lifetime job. Trading is quite better than the regular jobs we hunt for because once we are getting funds from it, we should be satisfied and keep doing it to earn more from the market. Trading is good if we now how to go about it and make money foe ourselves.
  It depends on individual perspective, something that mister A will see as 6, mister B might be seeing it as 9 depending on each side and understanding. So one can sai that trading is not a life time job and if he or she comes up with geniun reason it might be well understood also, when they claim that it's a lifetime job, and the reasons were presented based on your understanding, it might also be taken.
   This is a case that need to be attended to with an intelligent eye.  for instance, if you say it's a lifetime job, to you, I can be able to understand you as yes, you are expressing your points base on what you feel you can do. In that case, I see no problem.

i actually think that trading cannot be used as a long-term job because it is full of uncertainty. because market conditions can change and as we get older our analysis of the market may get worse and that can have an impact on the money we trade. especially as we get older, we need a stable income that can support our lives in the future. and because of this trading may not be a wise choice as a job to earn money for older people, because they need a stable income and do not require special attention like trading.

  Generally, it is not supposed to be seen as a lifetime job due to the following, lack of certainty and limited ability of the trader.
  Trading has not specific guarantee. a situation whereby a trader is just operating but not sure of what will happen in the nearest future, you see, that is seen as something related to gambling even if not gambling, they are a little bit related to some extent. Secondly, you are not even sure what time specifically the profits will be ready.
  And the trader's ability to be operating on it, is also limited.  Has he or she gets older, the strength of the body parts especially vision gets weaker. so, in general term, is not a life time job.

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April 27, 2024, 02:17:19 PM
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i actually think that trading cannot be used as a long-term job because it is full of uncertainty. because market conditions can change and as we get older our analysis of the market may get worse and that can have an impact on the money we trade. especially as we get older, we need a stable income that can support our lives in the future. and because of this trading may not be a wise choice as a job to earn money for older people, because they need a stable income and do not require special attention like trading.
While trading cannot be sustainable as a lifetime job, however it’s a wise decision to see it as a side hustle. Since we cannot assure that all our trades will turn into profits, then most probably we can make it only as a side hustle that can still earn massive profits especially if you have high experiences trading in the market.

There’s no need actually to see trading as a lifetime job since you can have a real stable job that will pay you fixed amount of compensation no matter what. So don’t complicate yourself, you can stay in your own day job, and you can always continue to trade as well during your free time as long as you only decide to trade when the market is suitable to trade.

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There are many such traders who have taken up trading as a hobby and career. Most of the day they sit in front of the monitor and watch the market candles. I have a friend who has created a separate room for trading where he conducts his trading activities with only a single door. Basically there he has three big monitors mounted on the wall and one monitor he has on the table and all the monitors have charts of the coins he will be trading and he is always waiting for an opportunity. Right now he is not doing any alternative work only depending on trading he is managing his family. If he succeeds in this way, he will not think of working and if ever he works, he will not be able to manage his activities in the same way as he is now trading while working because then there will be pressure of work. If full focus can be given to any one job then that job can be taken as a life time career.

Your friend must be a professional trader. Your friend must have good finances to meet his and his family's needs. but relying on it from trading alone, probably won't be very good. Maybe at least for now, your friend is still making a good income from his trading.
but the market will not always give traders a profit. I'm sure your friend is not only a daily trader. there are other things he does even though they are still related to crypto.

I also do not support the idea of turning trading into a full-time job and main source of income because of the fluctuations and instability it brings. But I have also seen some people succeed with that choice and I really admire when they can do such extraordinary things.

Sometimes there are things we can't do and it's really difficult for many people but that doesn't mean everyone can't do it. Personally, I used to be distrustful and suspicious of anyone who said they did nothing but trade, but sometimes we need to believe that there are people who can do it.

But I wouldn't imitate them or advise anyone to make trading their main source of income, because it's too risky and not worth the trade-off. Trading is better when we consider it a side job.

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April 27, 2024, 06:12:24 PM
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I'm sure not all traders will agree with me but some could possibly be on my side...

Here are the reasons why;
 1. It is quite stressful - old traders will soon give up due to mental health problems
 2. It is not enjoyable anymore - nobody will stay long in a job that they no longer find themselves comfortable with especially if you are not earning well.
      Most of the time we feel this during bear season.
 3. Trust issue due to Scam growth - traders never find it safe to use exchanges, even big exchanges.
Those who are whales will not agree with you because it's a lifetime job for them, they rule the market, and they move the market. If someone else doesn't agree with you, they are hugely mistaken.

I have tried trading as a full-time job and I failed. It stressed me so much that I swear it's better to do manual labour than to watch the price of the coin going up and down 24/7 and then be stressed out about catching good moments to profit. It made me anxious and nervous, I completely changed my sleeping routine because I was always trying to keep awake until I could to control my long and short positions. Maybe bots will make trading more comfortable but I can't depend on them with my capital, I prefer to control everything myself.
You also mentioned it correctly. So many exchanges go scam, get hacked and have financial problems that it's not safe to keep your coins on exchange. It's always a wise decision to deposit on exchange, trade and then withdraw immediately.

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April 27, 2024, 08:14:51 PM
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I'm sure not all traders will agree with me but some could possibly be on my side...

Here are the reasons why;
 1. It is quite stressful - old traders will soon give up due to mental health problems
 2. It is not enjoyable anymore - nobody will stay long in a job that they no longer find themselves comfortable with especially if you are not earning well.
      Most of the time we feel this during bear season.
 3. Trust issue due to Scam growth - traders never find it safe to use exchanges, even big exchanges.

You are wrong with your assumptions. I don't know for crypto traders but I know for sure that we have forex who took their time and trade from morning to evening and they do this everyday to make money from trading, now why do you think so or because of your questions? Alright, I will answer to best of my knowledge.

1. You are into signature campaign in this forum and you voluntarily do it so you get paid, it's stressful and yet you do it every week so you can get paid but you are here saying trading stressful. There is nothing in this life that isn't stressful, even stealing something that is not yours is stressful isn't.

2. I will still use your signature to answer this as well. Doing mandatory posts might look enjoyable but you do it any ways so you get paid, I hope I have answered this one too.

3. Your last question tells you don't understand trading. Trading is different from buying coins, what you just described is buying of coins and not trading.

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April 28, 2024, 09:31:30 AM
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i actually think that trading cannot be used as a long-term job because it is full of uncertainty. because market conditions can change and as we get older our analysis of the market may get worse and that can have an impact on the money we trade. especially as we get older, we need a stable income that can support our lives in the future. and because of this trading may not be a wise choice as a job to earn money for older people, because they need a stable income and do not require special attention like trading.

If we consider trading as a long term job then during harsh conditions when we lose money then we will have no other source of money to utilise for regular duties of life. It is not necessary that you must benefit from trading therefore when you lose money then it will become hard for you to continue that work which is only possible with the amount of money that you are earning from trading.

I think if we get older then our decision will be more accurate in trading because our experience will be enhanced and we will make good decisions by utilising our expertise and knowledge. But the market never guarantees our success due to the unstable nature therefore don't trust trading but choose another opportunity to make money.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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April 28, 2024, 10:45:26 AM
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My experience told the opposite stories:
1. It is the most relaxing one. Much relaxing then doing my routine as a Youtuber. My trading strategy focus on footprint chart and the use of Point of control and Price imbalance.
2. I spend less than an hour day (around 7am-8am) to update my chart and adjust my position.
3. About scam, I worry less right now after FTX collapsed.
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