Can Israeli Army standup against Iranian Military

[Cossyblack]

The islamic republic of Iran have declared a full scale war on Israel  following an April 1 attack reportedly carried out by Israel on the Iranian embassy in Syria, which killed seven Iranian military officers. Iranian military is the most strongest in the whole middle East, Even the British Army can't standup against them. The Battle will be the most bloodiest as Iranian Missiles are considered dangerous and can hit any target in any part of the world. Israeli army despite having over adequate Supports from the united States will not survive this battle. Israel should have avoided direct confrontation with iran..

https://www.naijanews.com/2024/04/14/the-weakness-that-weve-shown-is-unbelievable-trump-reacts-as-iran-attack-israel/

[pooya87]

Israeli Army

I wouldn't really call that an army, they just have a bunch of bloodthirsty psychopaths who are only capable of sitting in a fighter jet and drop a bomb on children inside Gaza.

The islamic republic of Iran have declared a full scale war on Israel

That is not declaration of war, that is enforcement of article 51 of United Nations Charter by punishing a terrorist attack.

Israel should have avoided direct confrontation with iran..

They knew that very well already. However, as they've lost the war they had declared on Palestinian children and the global anger toward the genocide they're committing is growing, their plan was to create a distraction.
Basically they hoped they could get US to fight Iran 1500-2000 km away and considering how it would be a World War scale conflict, the distraction would have helped the Zionists to freely continue their genocide of Palestinians without the international pressure.

This is why the first thing Iran did was to send a serious message/warning to United States and Biden complied well enough as Washington officially announced that "United States will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran".

[Xal0lex]

... following an April 1 attack reportedly carried out by Israel on the Iranian embassy in Syria, which killed seven Iranian military officers.

Please specify the source from where you took this phrase, to avoid being banned for plagiarism.

[Cossyblack]

... following an April 1 attack reportedly carried out by Israel on the Iranian embassy in Syria, which killed seven Iranian military officers.

Please specify the source from where you took this phrase, to avoid being banned for plagiarism.

https://www.naijanews.com/2024/04/14/the-weakness-that-weve-shown-is-unbelievable-trump-reacts-as-iran-attack-israel/

[bittraffic]

I wouldn't be surprised if many Israelis fly out of Israel. War breaking out means, it's not just the Iranian army that they are going to fight. Long before the Iran strike, they were already fighting against Hamas, Hezbollah, and some groups nearby.

The Iraqis might join as well. AFAIK, I couldn't be sure but there was news saying some missiles came from Iraq. Israel is the only nation there that they have been trying to engage for a long time. If Turkey joins, it will be an all-out war.

Russians are winning and Putin already warned the US not to intervene.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/will-support-iran-if-putin-threatens-biden-not-to-interfere-in-iran-and-israel-tensions/vi-BB1lAnjj

[LTU_btc]

There is too much wrong information in your post. First of all, from where did you got that Iran declared full scale war against Israel? About things that happened last night, it's escalation and some increased tension, but not war.
You overestimating Iran missiles. Despite that it was quite big attack, Irsel didn't had much troubleswith missiles anddrones from Iran. It was either shot down or didn't even reached Israel. After all, you like it or not, Israel had one of the best air defense in the world.
''Even the British Army can't standup against them'' - how you can say that when Iran and Uk didn't even had direct military confrontation?
Now it seems that escalation is over, but we can expect for relatiory attack from Israel in upcoming days.

[Frankolala]

This is why the first thing Iran did was to send a serious message/warning to United States and Biden complied well enough as Washington officially announced that "United States will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran".

Of course everyone knows that the US is a back up for Isreal, and that was why a serious message was sent to them first after the attack. US government have already told Isreal that if they retaliate back, they will not support them. So maybe this might make Isreal not retaliate because US don't want the war to escalate into WW3.

Isreal should be happy that the drones and misle sent to their country was intercepted by British and US. According to the news on BBC, Iran government said they will do worst should incase Isreal retaliates. I just pray for Isreal to stop all this drama.

[Cossyblack]

There is too much wrong information in your post. First of all, from where did you got that Iran declared full scale war against Israel? About things that happened last night, it's escalation and some increased tension, but not war.
You overestimating Iran missiles. Despite that it was quite big attack, Irsel didn't had much troubleswith missiles anddrones from Iran. It was either shot down or didn't even reached Israel. After all, you like it or not, Israel had one of the best air defense in the world.
''Even the British Army can't standup against them'' - how you can say that when Iran and Uk didn't even had direct military confrontation?
Now it seems that escalation is over, but we can expect for relatiory attack from Israel in upcoming days.

Israeli military is weak against iran,if not for the intervention of the  US military that intercepted  those Iranian attacking drones,Israel would have been toast.
https://www.naijanews.com/2024/04/14/u-s-shoots-down-some-iranian-dones-headed-toward-israel/

[aoluain]

It seems like a few allies of Israel helped out with preventing the drones and missiles
from entering Israel, they got about 99%, what about that 1%?

The US, Great Britain and Jordan came to the rescue of Israel. >
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/14/how-irans-attack-on-israel-was-stopped

I wonder what is Israel going to do about that Iranian attack? are things going to escalate?

And as pooya87 points out this has created a distraction from the main concern
which ithe continuing assault on Gaza

[passwordnow]

Everyone is a loser on these wars.  
What I am thinking is that the kids, grandpas and grannies and all of the civilians if they can standup with all of the noises and strikes that they might encounter when they all want is peace.  

And as pooya87 points out this has created a distraction from the main concern
which ithe continuing assault on Gaza

So with this, as the Israel has been engaged with a war in the Gaza strip. Now, they have to deal with Iran and also with the alliances of Iran that are also helping them.

Of course everyone knows that the US is a back up for Isreal, and that was why a serious message was sent to them first after the attack. US government have already told Isreal that if they retaliate back, they will not support them. So maybe this might make Isreal not retaliate because US don't want the war to escalate into WW3.

Isreal should be happy that the drones and misle sent to their country was intercepted by British and US. According to the news on BBC, Iran government said they will do worst should incase Isreal retaliates.

But we all know that they're not going to just accept that they've been attacked and they won't retaliate. But if they do, if those statements expressed by their allies that they won't intercept if they do the retaliation then they're on their own, I doubt it that they'll just be letting this pass.

I just pray for Isreal to stop all this drama.

Me either, all of the involved countries should stop but one has to step down their ego.

[pooya87]

from entering Israel, they got about 99%, what about that 1%?

The stats their propaganda outlets release are usually reverse (99% went through, 1% were intercepted)
Although I think they intercepted more than 1% but the number is definitely not higher than 10% and there is enough video proof of it. I made an amateur compilation of it here.

Here are two more videos to watch this better:
https://www.aparat.com/v/QehkR
I saw this particular video was also released by Wall Street Journal today as a proof that IOF intercepted the 99% of Iranian missiles but to prove it they cut this video at 00:20. The link above is the full video of course.
After 00:20 we can clearly see the none of the incoming missiles were intercepted, every single one hits its targets starting at 00:23, if you continue watching 2 seconds later the wave of the explosion reaches the cameraman as the electricity goes out (this is filmed from occupied West Bank which is at least 50 km away from the military base that is being targeted). In this video the smaller lights and the "cluster" on top right shows the cluster warhead used in Kheybar-shekan hypersonic missiles that "rains down" on its target.

https://www.aparat.com/v/16WzS
This other video shows the failure of David's Sling Anti-Ballistic-Missile system. In order to intercept a Kheybar-Shekan missile it empties all its missiles by launching them at the incoming missile and fails to hit it. on 00:38 you can see how it hits its target with pinpoint accuracy on 00:41 another one hits its target off camera 00:43 and so on you can see others hitting their own targets with pinpoint accuracy.

In this punishment a handful of Israeli military bases were selected such as Nevatim airbase housing the biggest chunk of Israel's airforce aircrafts including F35 jets. All these bases were completely demolished.

It was either shot down or didn't even reached Israel.

I already debunked the "shot down part" but the "didn't reach part" is also propaganda. This is basic missile knowledge, the pictures they're showing you as "proof" such as these two: https://www.talkimg.com/image/jF71N and https://www.talkimg.com/image/jF9ea are not the missile's that didn't reach, these are the first stage fuel tanks of the missile!
Have you ever seen the NASA or SPACEX rocket launches? That entire construct is not the rocket, there are multiple stages with multiple fuel tanks. As the rocket (or the ballistic missile) exits the atmosphere the fuel tank that is empty by then is disconnected and falls on the ground in the middle of the route to its target.

The mouthpieces such as WSJ, NYT, Reuters, etc. are showing you these fuel tanks claiming this is the missile

Here is a video of Kheybar-Shekan BM showing how the fuel tank is separated and falls down as it exits atmosphere using the cameras installed on the missile itself: https://youtu.be/aGxysBfZ5ww?t=53

The fact is that 100% of what Iran launched reached their targets and at least 90% of them were not intercepted and hit their targets.

[Gozie51]

Well a simple thing to say is Israel should allow for peaceful dialogue and not to put the world in WW3 because this back and forth with Iran is going to instigate more blocs into this and there is no no to further cause hardship in the midst of inflation. Israel is banking of support from US and the Asian countries at a point will also give support to Iran and Palestine, we already know where this is going to head to. The world need peace not war.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

... following an April 1 attack reportedly carried out by Israel on the Iranian embassy in Syria, which killed seven Iranian military officers.

Please specify the source from where you took this phrase, to avoid being banned for plagiarism.

This has always be stated all time as major forum  rules that if you can't specify the source you need quote to indicate it's not your work. but for me I would have preferred the source link so one can read more.

[alani123]

Israel has no border with Iran. Iran has air and rocket capabilities but I highly doubt they might go to an all out attack against Israel. On that scenario america could overpower many of their military bases and air systems with just remote attacks. Iran is probably interested in just keeping up pressure and symbolic attacks.

I think the people of Arab states would be more for an all out attack against Israel, but US interests have kind of infiltrated in their governments to not let them be representative and instead seek diplomatic ties with Israel against their people's wish. So really of Iran wanted to start such an initiative they would probably be alone with the Houthis and just give reason to NATO to invade them. So unless they can reach a consensus with other Arab nations, it's not gonna happen. We're at least a dozen revolutions away from that to be honest sadly or not.

[EluguHcman]

Op, the manner you spiced this writeup giving a sectional region such as Irans that advantage of winning a war against Israel is one of the reasons why this World would never have stabilized peace and the unity sighted by equality would always be abolished and ignored if we keep having such over proudness of hyping and insighting that one has a more executive quality while the other is inferior.

It is obvious to say that you are illiciting hared and insight wars against the others which definitely could have extended effects beyond imaginations.
Why not advocate for peace instead of the unnecessary remarks of applauding one and distabilizing the faith of the other?

Until we know the value of peace, we will keeping playing adamant towards destructions of lives and valuables which are irreplaceable and there we would understand that those expenses on wars has been waste of resources because war as a crisis yields no fortune but disasterous to human kind.

Read up on this thread in discuss if the world would ever have peace https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5492317.msg63927245#msg63927245.
As much as I know, peace is priceless.

[pooya87]

On that scenario america could overpower many of their military bases and air systems with just remote attacks.

As the 14th commander of the United States Central Command said on many occasions: "Iran has reached overmatch"

Iran can fire more missiles than its adversaries—including the United States and Israel—can shoot down or destroy. Tehran has achieved what McKenzie calls “overmatch”—a level of capability in which a country has weaponry that makes it extremely difficult to check or defeat. “Iran’s strategic capacity is now enormous,” McKenzie said. “They’ve got overmatch in the theatre—the ability to overwhelm.”

In layman's terms if US were to declare war on Iran, it will leave Iran no choice but to respond to the aggression according to UN Charter and in less than 6 hours the US military would be crippled and in somewhere between 10 to 20 days there will be nothing left of the US military.

Iran's muscle flexing on April 13 proved that even the most defended military airbase like Nevatim that is protected by the entire NATO capability can be very easily hit and completely demolished. The US military bases in a 4000 km radius and the US navy are protected nearly as much as Nevatim. Not to mention Iran can launch about 73 times more missiles and 1000 times more drones than were used in that small operation per day every day (ie. 11k missiles + 50k drones).

Why not advocate for peace instead of the unnecessary remarks of applauding one and distabilizing the faith of the other?

I completely agree with this but also you should remember that we live in the real world. The world where UN security council is proved to be completely useless.
When US invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, ... and murdered millions of people UN approved of it.
When Israel started slaughtering innocent civilians, UN ignored it.
When Israel set a record on the number of kids murdered (12k+) the world kept watching the genocide continue.
When Israel bombed an embassy and broke a dozen international laws including article 2 of UN Charter they were silent and impotent.
...

Peace is not a one sided thing that when diplomats are murdered in a terrorist attack or when children are murdered every day in a genocide nobody talks about peace but the moment the terrorists are punished for their attack we suddenly get worried about peace.
Sometimes peace can only be achieved through military actions like when the Allies attacked Nazi Germany and stopped their war machine.

[ferida504]

This is why the first thing Iran did was to send a serious message/warning to United States and Biden complied well enough as Washington officially announced that "United States will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran".

Of course everyone knows that the US is a back up for Isreal, and that was why a serious message was sent to them first after the attack. US government have already told Isreal that if they retaliate back, they will not support them. So maybe this might make Isreal not retaliate because US don't want the war to escalate into WW3.

Isreal should be happy that the drones and misle sent to their country was intercepted by British and US. According to the news on BBC, Iran government said they will do worst should incase Isreal retaliates. I just pray for Isreal to stop all this drama.

Yes, but there will be more casualties from the Israeli side because Israel's concentration has really broken after the conflict with Palestine has been almost a year, the victims are also many civilians, even if there was resistance from Israel yesterday after the Iranian missile was dropped then it is certain that the countries Others also intervene so that a wider war will break out, but the allied countries are waiting for this. It's time for the UN to make a strong ultimatum to Israel. They don't force themselves to attack Palestine anymore. In fact, they lost because the target of their attack was civilians and mostly children.

[SAHASAN]

If Israel launches an attack on Iran, it will be a worldwide warning for World War III.
But I think if the world leaders don't want WW3 then it will be normal but if Israel wants world war then they have to attack Iran.
It will be understood after a few more days.

Just wait and see  ................

[LTU_btc]

I already debunked the "shot down part" but the "didn't reach part" is also propaganda. This is basic missile knowledge, the pictures they're showing you as "proof" such as these two: https://www.talkimg.com/image/jF71N and https://www.talkimg.com/image/jF9ea are not the missile's that didn't reach, these are the first stage fuel tanks of the missile!
Have you ever seen the NASA or SPACEX rocket launches? That entire construct is not the rocket, there are multiple stages with multiple fuel tanks. As the rocket (or the ballistic missile) exits the atmosphere the fuel tank that is empty by then is disconnected and falls on the ground in the middle of the route to its target.

The mouthpieces such as WSJ, NYT, Reuters, etc. are showing you these fuel tanks claiming this is the missile

Here is a video of Kheybar-Shekan BM showing how the fuel tank is separated and falls down as it exits atmosphere using the cameras installed on the missile itself: https://youtu.be/aGxysBfZ5ww?t=53

The fact is that 100% of what Iran launched reached their targets and at least 90% of them were not intercepted and hit their targets.

Unlike your mentioned western media resources, I never said that intercepted 99 of missiles. Already on the day of attack I saw several videos of missiles reaching targets. But some of them is quite difficult to verify because of darkness, it might be same object, just filmed from different angle. And several videos that started to spread on internte appears to be not even related with this attack. IIRC one of Iran TV channels got caught with it.
And unfortunately, I perfectly know difference between head of missile and it's fuel tank. Not even sure how someone can call it as intercepted missile. Before your post I didn't even saw this.
100% of missiles reached targets and 90% of it hit them - this is what, wishful thinking or what? If it's true, what you can say about objects shot down in Jordan Airspace for example? And if 90% of missiles weren't inercepted, I guess that consequences would be much more, it would be difficult to hide it and it internet would be full of videos with hits.

Israeli military is weak against iran,if not for the intervention of the  US military that intercepted  those Iranian attacking drones,Israel would have been toast.
https://www.naijanews.com/2024/04/14/u-s-shoots-down-some-iranian-dones-headed-toward-israel/

Again, you understimating Israel, if their army is weak, I'm not even sure what can be called as strong army. Yeah, help from USA was significant, maybe damage would be more significant. But it would come from missiles, not droness. These drones that Iran is using shouldn't be a big issue for Israel air defence.

[Dewiana]

Israeli Army

I wouldn't really call that an army, they just have a bunch of bloodthirsty psychopaths who are only capable of sitting in a fighter jet and drop a bomb on children inside Gaza.

The islamic republic of Iran have declared a full scale war on Israel

That is not declaration of war, that is enforcement of article 51 of United Nations Charter by punishing a terrorist attack.

Israel should have avoided direct confrontation with iran..

They knew that very well already. However, as they've lost the war they had declared on Palestinian children and the global anger toward the genocide they're committing is growing, their plan was to create a distraction.
Basically they hoped they could get US to fight Iran 1500-2000 km away and considering how it would be a World War scale conflict, the distraction would have helped the Zionists to freely continue their genocide of Palestinians without the international pressure.

This is why the first thing Iran did was to send a serious message/warning to United States and Biden complied well enough as Washington officially announced that "United States will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran".

The conflict between Israel and Palestine has now spread to Iran, because it was triggered by Israel attacking the Iranian embassy in Damascus, this clearly really hurt the Iranian government, so it is responding to what Israel did, even though yesterday Benjamin Netanyahu as Israel's prime minister said they were ready to face Iran and they will win, but if we look at Israel currently it is very overwhelmed against the Hezbollah army, even if they were ready to oppose Iran they would have been helped by the United States so they dare to say much. and this will also happen a big war between the allied countries