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April 18, 2024, 05:05:04 AM |
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Do you seriously wanna argue with him? [especially on this issue]? I'd only say the same thing in a different context.
Just coulnd't ignore that nonsense that lack of merit caused decrease if the forum activity. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The reason for decrease in forum activity is not really the availability of merit. But talking about Indian Local board it definitely is one of the reason why the place is becoming ghosted. Heisenberg_Hunter, you should look into the distribution of source merit (if you are still a merit source) to revive our board before it becomes too late.
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Heisenberg_Hunter
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Heisenberg_Hunter, you should look into the distribution of source merit (if you are still a merit source) to revive our board before it becomes too late. I'm not a merit source, but still I have quite a few smerits in my account which I will try to distribute when I have time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The position has become difficult to handle and a few members were threatening me to distribute merits in our local. Hence, I have retired from the position ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Bitcoin Smith
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April 18, 2024, 05:25:33 AM |
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Heisenberg_Hunter, you should look into the distribution of source merit (if you are still a merit source) to revive our board before it becomes too late. I'm not a merit source, but still I have quite a few smerits in my account which I will try to distribute when I have time ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) The position has become difficult to handle and a few members were threatening me to distribute merits in our local. Hence, I have retired from the position ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I don't really know what is the conflict, and for sure I don't want to get into it. But being a merit source is voluntary, and it's a thankless job in my opinion, and no one should be forcing you to distribute merits. I appreciate you for contributing in the progression of Indian board when veterans left the place in the previous cycle. So, It's official that there is no merit source available for India. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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The reason for decrease in forum activity is not really the availability of merit. But talking about Indian Local board it definitely is one of the reason why the place is becoming ghosted. Heisenberg_Hunter, you should look into the distribution of source merit (if you are still a merit source) to revive our board before it becomes too late. While it might stimulate posting as it seems to be an accreditation move for those that see the need to try, It would also mean, users posting mindlessly without having much interest in what they post but, just do it anyway and remain in expectancy. That’s to invite spam, even when it’s got a little quality in it (can that even be… I can’t say for sure though). I haven’t been here for so long to how what it was like them but, I understand charts and what I see on the OP is some decline. This I will attribute to some of the good works I see going on in the reputation section of the forum. Having to track all them AI posts and getting these people exposed. It’s a highly encouraging one and am so disgusted at how people use technology these days. At least the forum might get a few posts but, it’s better human than having AI garbage on the forum. People come here to read good stuff, let’s have good stuff!
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Theymos needs to decentralize the merit source. Right now it's used as a political tool to reward people he likes. How hard would it be to distribute merits based on activity, or trust, or some other set of factors? Theymos used to be creative. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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April 18, 2024, 02:22:00 PM |
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Probably because there's less people that's interested in this forum and there's the fact that there's less and less signature campaigns that have made most people more interested in participating in the forum. Not to mention that spammers and scammers have decreased if not ceased to exist here in the forum given how so many Scam Accusations and awareness has been given to newbies here in the forum, they probably got tired of doing scams here and most of the new ones are probably new scammers that just don't know any better. Maybe if we do some kind of advertising for this forum to up the visibility of it in people that are searching about this forum, who knows right? Maybe there are people that don't know about this forum but have been an investor for a long time, that's got to be a bad thing that we've reached for them a bit too late, that's my answer to the decline, lack of advertising for the forum and visibility on the top search.
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April 18, 2024, 03:50:36 PM |
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But talking about Indian Local board it definitely is one of the reason why the place is becoming ghosted. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) You never know whether more merit would attract more people in your local board. Few years ago Croatian board got few new merit sources (after being one of the least merited boards) and it didn't really help us much when it coesm to activity as it keeps decreasing, even though we (probably) have more merit available than ever before. Theymos needs to decentralize the merit source. Right now it's used as a political tool to reward people he likes.
I don't see how that would increase forum activity.
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April 18, 2024, 04:17:38 PM |
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The admin cannot do anything directly to improve activity on the forum. All through the years theymos has made little interference with the purpose of improving traffic, most of the actions has actually been to stop span which reduces activity on the forum. The community has built itself, going through adjustments in this ever evolving space.
Merits also don't increase activity, there are tons of good posts now that go unmerited. It might encourage some current members to stay on the forum, but will not bring in new users, or keep those top 2% members that pay no mind to merit.
There's something for everyone in the forum today, find your niche and ignore the boards/users which annoy you.
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April 18, 2024, 05:29:09 PM |
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The admin cannot do anything directly to improve activity on the forum.
And nor should they have to. Their role is to provide the infrastructure. It's ultimately down to the users to make interesting and stimulating conversation. That's where the issue seems to be. In terms of overall engagement, it's got to be the community doing things for themselves. No one can do it for us.
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April 18, 2024, 06:05:44 PM |
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But talking about Indian Local board it definitely is one of the reason why the place is becoming ghosted. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The general activity in your local board has deteriorated so much that all you got is a few update in only two threads? Don't y'all have any merit source in there ? was he - by any chance a merit source before now? How did he lose his sourceship power? Theymos needs to decentralize the merit source. Right now it's used as a political tool to reward people he likes.
Theymos isn't a part of this AFAIK... You can say that some of the merit sources are becoming sentimental,Yes! BTW, I never knew most reputable members also get affected by the plague, per seHow hard would it be to distribute merits based on activity, or trust, or some other set of factors? Theymos used to be creative. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) That's not hard at all.... But humans will always wanna show off their predominance - especially if they are already made. In terms of overall engagement, it's got to be the community doing things for themselves. No one can do it for us.
so it's safe to say that we're indirectly our own problems?
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I think the OP should have used several graphs that could be used to compare the trends over a bigger period of time as it would allow a greater understanding of how the number of posts per day were affected. Clearly 300,000 active users versus 57,000 does make a difference and will contribute to the number of posts being made. How did you define active, was it any member that logged in the previous 3/6/9 months? When I launched https://bpip.org, there were over 300,000 active members. Now there are 57,000. That prob has a lot to do with it.
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How did you define active, was it any member that logged in the previous 3/6/9 months?
If you hover over the little ? by active users, you can see it is 3 months. I can't remember if that's what I ran it as, but I don't think SM and IB would change it.
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April 19, 2024, 08:08:37 AM |
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I am no expert but with my limited understanding I think a 90 day last login period is a very useful marker to get an understanding of the current user base. What does seems detrimental to some degree is the fact that 300,000 active members have dropped to 57,000 even though there could be a whole array of reasons behind it. It certainly is not a good sign. How did you define active, was it any member that logged in the previous 3/6/9 months?
If you hover over the little ? by active users, you can see it is 3 months. I can't remember if that's what I ran it as, but I don't think SM and IB would change it.
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April 20, 2024, 11:40:46 AM |
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I think the OP should have used several graphs that could be used to compare the trends over a bigger period of time as it would allow a greater understanding of how the number of posts per day were affected. Clearly 300,000 active users versus 57,000 does make a difference and will contribute to the number of posts being made. How did you define active, was it any member that logged in the previous 3/6/9 months? When I launched https://bpip.org, there were over 300,000 active members. Now there are 57,000. That prob has a lot to do with it. I only based it on post without considering active users I was of the notion that getting the Accurate number of active users would be hard because of alt account and all. But this link was kinda unique https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstatsIt can be seen that the users active using "unique logged in users" has been relatively stable for some time now But facing some kind of a downward movement. There are old members that haven't logged in for years and was surprised to see an old account MemoryDealers posting after how many years. Well to post about BCH. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F04%2F20%2Fj7AX8.jpeg&t=665&c=aiYl40t2KMiIhw) Yes halving might not have much effect but it still has some as can be seen from the chart above. Post count increased, is like a breaking out from a falling wedge
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Stop of campaigns that pay per posts like Chip Mixer and other mixers are main reasons if I am not wrong.
That wouldn't explain the second chart OP showed, because mixers were banned at the beginning of this year whereas it looks like posts/month have been falling since 2022. That's a very short window of data, and I haven't looked to see what the entire history of the forum shows. Not saying OP cherry picked his time frame, but it's hard to judge when everything before 2022 isn't shown. Are bounties still a thing? I haven't heard much about them in a while, but they were extremely popular for quite some time. If they went away, I'd expect to see a massive drop. But the members who were in mixer campaigns probably went on to participate in other ones, and I doubt the mixer ban would account for a posting drop as severe as what OP is claiming. Forum posts don't depend too much on Bitcoin halving.
Lately it seems like the relevance of this current halving has been blown so far out of proportion that I wonder if a lot of members here even know what one is, and if they do, why they expect bitcoin to move up or down or whatever else they figure is a consequence of something written into bitcoin's code long ago.
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April 20, 2024, 01:31:25 PM |
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When I launched https://bpip.org, there were over 300,000 active members. Now there are 57,000. That prob has a lot to do with it. But what is the cause of this ? The forum owners should be interested in identifying the possible causes and taking remedial measures. Like suppose, the search engine rankings are affected, there should be SEO done to attract more new active members on the forum from time to time.
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April 20, 2024, 03:07:47 PM |
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... That website was launched in 2018 just after bitcoin hit $20k in December 2017 and ICO projects were springing up from all corners and would have been using the forum as a platform to advertise themselves. It is not a surprise that the activity then is way higher than it is now, we have not had that type of hype since then. The admin has never tried to affect the ranking on search engines, all the activity here is organic. - Jay -
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It might not be the mixer ban but sure it is a part of it, I mean the posting is surely going to decrease for sure if a lot of signature campaigns are going to be stopped, I was active here in the forum, even without a signature campaign but I would say that I was not posting a lot when I'm not on signature campaigns only on discussion that I like, or if I really wanted to know some kind of information, most of the time 1-3 times only in a day, but could increase up to 7 post per day if I'm on a campaign. So for sure it still has some kind of effect on the posting count.
Merit as well is also a thing since it filters the quality of the post here in the forum, so just posting some kind of post is not going to be worth it unless it's going to get some merits because it would help you to rank up.
Also if I'm not mistaken there was a huge drop when it comes to activity here in the forum, when it comes to members, active members are already dropping a lot so that could also be a factor since the fewer members the fewer posts for sure.
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April 20, 2024, 05:29:42 PM |
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I'm no expert, but I've lived through different periods on the forum. Before the merit system was introduced, there was a large variety of signature campaigns, some paying literal peanuts, but they still attracted plenty of users, with the majority being full and new ones being introduced quite frequently. Although the merit system has cut down on a lot of spammers, and I find it necessary because anyone could simply rank up to Legendary just by being active, it has potentially discouraged newer users who aren't very familiar with Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
The number of signature campaigns drastically reduced after 2018, before I quit, while the ban on mixers shut down plenty of other services, which has played an important role in why posts per day or month have reduced during the past three months.
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April 22, 2024, 10:43:02 AM |
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We have to face the fact that young people are less and less interested in this way of communication, and that the forum has lost a lot of members who were active in recent years and who wrote between 30-50 posts a week. Signature campaigns are of course an important factor that was motivating for many, and considering that we lost mixers and remained practically only on gambling, which have even 50% lower pay rates than mixers and smaller requirements regarding max posts, the result will be likely in a reduced number of total posts.
Personally, I would not worry too much about the number of posts, but about their quality.
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