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April 17, 2024, 12:08:10 AM
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April 17, 2024, 12:42:16 AM
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I just went to your site and created an account with an email address I typed randomly and it worked but the only issue now is that the page keeps refreshing and each time that happens I’m asked to input my details to log in again. I don’t know if it’s just for me or a general issue, unless that’s resolved I won’t be able to give any reviews on your site.

By the way, your account reputation is not looking good which means you’re going to get some reviews based on it and it’ll most likely reduce the interest that your thread would have gotten if your slate was not tainted.

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April 17, 2024, 01:02:30 AM
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I just went to your site and created an account with an email address I typed randomly and it worked but the only issue now is that the page keeps refreshing and each time that happens I’m asked to input my details to log in again. I don’t know if it’s just for me or a general issue, unless that’s resolved I won’t be able to give any reviews on your site.

Interesting, we haven't experienced this issue in testing before the launch. I'll poke the web development team and see if they can figure out what's going on. Details on the web browser you're using might help.

If it's a really random address, the account gets deleted after 3 hours without being verified; without verification, deposits and play will not work either.

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There were missteps with this company in the past, but we now have new management and have worked to get a working product launched that can actually show for our effort. We hope to rectify this reputation with the launch!

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April 17, 2024, 01:58:52 PM
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By the way, your account reputation is not looking good which means you’re going to get some reviews based on it and it’ll most likely reduce the interest that your thread would have gotten if your slate was not tainted.

There were missteps with this company in the past, but we now have new management and have worked to get a working product launched that can actually show for our effort. We hope to rectify this reputation with the launch!

Have you reached to these people that tagged you and ask them or negotiate them to take down the tagged from your account, its not looking good for potential members of your platform, people will have second thought playing on your platform, but yes you need to work on to get your reputation back its a bad start from your account.
Why not launch a signature campaign, or review campaign and be sure to be active in addressing every concern you have to double your work if people think that you are honest and transparency you will regain the trust of the community.

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April 17, 2024, 03:45:13 PM
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Is this casino is the one you are supposed to use the 500K unsecured loan before because I don’t see any good improvement done worth that value with this current version of your casino.

Loading the casino is very slow while most of the picture displays is not properly scale and overwhelming. The website looks like still on test mode because everything is messy. Will mind make it neat first?

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First of all I have my doubt in your probability fairness in any deal, but none the less, I can see that you offenses bothers on some few removable things if you present clear evidence on why you tag but if not, that.

I don't think this Coul be done in any other ways since having those red tag from forum members will hamper the trust of users on such platform.

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April 17, 2024, 04:38:19 PM
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You are welcome to the forum I checked the website and it is simple to move around and the site is well design for your kind of games. And bingo game is coming soon and that will be real fun adding to the casino. I was checking around the Tos and I saw this
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which are bio data of the user which will be required by the user when he or she is using you service. You said it to identify the person when using the service. Is it in the withdraw time of once after the registration and the people deposit to use the casino? My attention is on the real name and the physical address of the user. Is that what required to withdraw a win? Because the registration process is very simple and it looks like the withdrawal time might cause some issue to the gambler.

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This is fun... let's do some math with the information we have on https://www.quinto.games/why-windfall-lottery

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Windfall Lottery has 2,500,000 tickets, each with 125 unique picks. There are 312,500,000 picks within the lottery. The Windfall Lottery is unique because it will generate every possible play permutation throughout all the tickets sold; meaning there will be at least one jackpot winner.


The Company wagering is in units called Quintoshi symbolized by () and is equivalent to one US dollar ($1.00). Windfall Lottery ticket price is 25.00 (0.20 per pick) and it doesn’t matter if your wager was in dollars, euros, or any other currency as The Company uses the prevailing exchange rate a the time of purchase.

Windfall Lottery offers some of the best odds in the industry with a 1 in 0.125 chance of winning any prize on a single ticket and a 1 in 2,495,001.60 chance of winning the Jackpot Prize of an estimated 15,000,000.00.

So, there are 2.5 Million tickets and each ticket has a cost os $25, while the jackpot is $15M. With that known price of the tickets if you sell them all then the house gets $62,500,000, then let's rest the jackpot of $15M and the total profit from selling all the tickets would be $47,500,000.

So i have two questions.

Why should we make you a millionaire?
Why your house edge is close to 300%?

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If it's a really random address, the account gets deleted after 3 hours without being verified; without verification, deposits and play will not work either.

I have created a different account, but this time with one of my emails I can access and I didn't encounter the same issue. In the first one I wasn't asked for any verification code from my email but in the second one I was prevented from navigating to other pages until I verified my email address, I guess they might have tweaked it a bit to correct it.



The post above mine raised asked a really good question, so it would be nice to hear what you have to say concerning it. I never thought of doing the math but from his response I guess doing the actual calculations yourself would reveal some crucial things that no one would have noticed.

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Dont know if its just me but this one been looping like forever.



I do have 200mbps internet
Updated Chrome and tested out on other browsers but still end up on the same loading times.
Did make out some 2-3 minutes wait which it is really just that too much.

Same issues anyone?

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April 17, 2024, 07:24:16 PM
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Have you reached to these people that tagged you and ask them or negotiate them to take down the tagged from your account, its not looking good for potential members of your platform, people will have second thought playing on your platform, but yes you need to work on to get your reputation back its a bad start from your account.

Thanks, we were unaware of this being an option, we'll look into it. Smiley

Is this casino is the one you are supposed to use the 500K unsecured loan before because I don’t see any good improvement done worth that value with this current version of your casino.

Loading the casino is very slow while most of the picture displays is not properly scale and overwhelming. The website looks like still on test mode because everything is messy. Will mind make it neat first?

As new management, we are not sure what you refer to about a 500K unsecured loan, no such thing existed in the books.

The site will be going under continuous improvements as time goes on. We don't believe it is overtly messy, but is there a specific criticism you'd like to give to help us understand how it is messy? Slow loading is an issue we will be looking into immediately.

I was checking around the Tos and I saw this
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which are bio data of the user which will be required by the user when he or she is using you service. You said it to identify the person when using the service. Is it in the withdraw time of once after the registration and the people deposit to use the casino? My attention is on the real name and the physical address of the user. Is that what required to withdraw a win? Because the registration process is very simple and it looks like the withdrawal time might cause some issue to the gambler.

Real name and physical address are only used when fiat currency is used to deposit account funds (we do not currently have an automated processor, but it is planned for the near future). To deliver an ACH, personally identifiable information is required, even temporarily. For cryptocurrency, no such name and address requirements exist, you can withdrawal with a simple cryptocurrency address.

Dont know if its just me but this one been looping like forever.

I do have 200mbps internet
Updated Chrome and tested out on other browsers but still end up on the same loading times.
Did make out some 2-3 minutes wait which it is really just that too much.

Same issues anyone?

2-3 minutes is too much, we'll be looking into performance issues as soon as possible.

We appreciate eveyone's input and will continue to respond as quickly as possible.

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This is fun... let's do some math with the information we have on https://www.quinto.games/why-windfall-lottery

So, there are 2.5 Million tickets and each ticket has a cost os $25, while the jackpot is $15M. With that known price of the tickets if you sell them all then the house gets $62,500,000, then let's rest the jackpot of $15M and the total profit from selling all the tickets would be $47,500,000.

So i have two questions.

Why should we make you a millionaire?
Why your house edge is close to 300%?

With 2.5 million tickets at $25 each, it totals to a gross of $62.5M; the player's aggregate pool is $52M, leaving $10.5M gross for the company (and between investors, servers, salaries, taxes, this'll reduce further to the actual profits).

All player prizes are paid from the $52M aggregate pool. First, all the prizes that are listed from 2-0 through 5-3 (in the prize table), then the jackpot itself, which has one guaranteed winner, but it is possible for two people (and no more than two) to win the jackpot, where it would be split. The jackpot is estimated at $15M, but we cannot guarantee its value, since we cannot know the result of the draw until it happens.

All the "minimum win" values in the prize table are guaranteed numbers. There may be more, but never fewer. For instance, there will be at least ten $1M prize payouts, having five cards correct in three positions in the hand.

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With 2.5 million tickets at $25 each, it totals to a gross of $62.5M; the player's aggregate pool is $52M, leaving $10.5M gross for the company (and between investors, servers, salaries, taxes, this'll reduce further to the actual profits).

Only $10.5 Millions for the company... Ok...

Now let's take a look at some of your TOS because something isn't looking fine to me.

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If your engine fail the users lose their wager, but why? If your engine was the one that fails, you should give back the money to the players in that scenario.

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C. Withdrawals in fiat currencies may be subject to a fee of up to 10% depending on the withdrawal method.

Why 10% fees on withdrawal, even if that's fiat still a huge amount.
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H. Additional verification procedures may be carried out by the payment team at the Company when processing a withdrawal. Transactions may be checked to prevent money laundering. Any suspicious activity relating to any of the games should be reported to the Company immediately.

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A. Since our company is incorporated, registered, and operates gaming from Costa Rica, we are obliged to adhere to regulations that restrict us from offering our online gaming services to individuals residing within Costa Rica.

If you want to ask for users personal data and claim your business is registered in Costa Rica, then you should make public your license, Where is your license?

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As new management, we are not sure what you refer to about a 500K unsecured loan, no such thing existed in the books.

I suggest taking a look at your trust history, see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=895636

Honestly, your pre-sale promo is a pretty sweet deal but I'm not confident you'll be paying out the provided dues considering the past rep. On one hand, one could say the sweet deal may be the perfect bait for gullible folks as well.

Perhaps, if you managed to clear the past rep and/or a reputable campaign backs your platfrom, I'll take a look again. Another idea I can think of is locking a portion of your reserved funds in a reputable escrow, this way we're sure the pre-sale dues will be paid.

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If your engine fail the users lose their wager, but why? If your engine was the one that fails, you should give back the money to the players in that scenario.
I don't think it means that they will take the wager. This rules is probably the same as when a bookie voids a bet where the sports bookie will then refund the bet amount to the gambler. also, just below that rule they mentioned that "If a game starts but fails due to a system malfunction, the Company will refund the Member's wager to their Member account."

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Now let's take a look at some of your TOS because something isn't looking fine to me.

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C. In case of a system malfunction, all wagers are deemed void.
If your engine fail the users lose their wager, but why? If your engine was the one that fails, you should give back the money to the players in that scenario.

In such cases of malfunction, the wager is voided, and the wager remains in the user's balance; no money should be lost. In the database perspective, it's the end result of a ROLLBACK operation. Yes, we give money back to the players in these scenarios. We hope it never happens, but we have both a legal and technical obligation to make it right if it does.

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C. Withdrawals in fiat currencies may be subject to a fee of up to 10% depending on the withdrawal method.

Why 10% fees on withdrawal, even if that's fiat still a huge amount.

Credit card processing demands high fees, that often exceed well beyond 10%. Cryptocurrency is much preferred for this reason. Smiley

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If you want to ask for users personal data and claim your business is registered in Costa Rica, then you should make public your license, Where is your license?

We can work on making the business license public. I'm sure it'll clear legal, will just require a scanner. In the mean time, the business is registered in Costa Rica as "QUINTO SOCIEDAD ANÓNIMA" with the license number 3101721906.

Honestly, your pre-sale promo is a pretty sweet deal but I'm not confident you'll be paying out the provided dues considering the past rep. On one hand, one could say the sweet deal may be the perfect bait for gullible folks as well.

All the prize funds are coming from the aggregate pool and automatically deposit into players' accounts. From there, users can withdraw funds into their cryptocurrency wallets, bank accounts, etc. As much as it is hard to gain trust from nothing, we are trying to make the best possible lottery games.

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Perhaps, if you managed to clear the past rep and/or a reputable campaign backs your platfrom, I'll take a look again. Another idea I can think of is locking a portion of your reserved funds in a reputable escrow, this way we're sure the pre-sale dues will be paid.

With multiple currency options, escrow becomes prohibitively expensive without reducing the prize pool.

As for pre-sale dues, we are allocating $750,000 of the marketing budget to the pre-sale bonus. Given that we're guaranteeing a minimum payback value, should every ticket in pre-sale fail to win prizes totaling (or doubling, for the 5,000 kick-off tickets) the purchase price, we would spend the entire $750,000 on paying back pre-sale purchases. This is also fully automated; approximately 20 Windfall games have been successfully simulated in testing, with 10 of those including pre-sale bonuses. The server software is functioning and paying back players appropriately. Smiley

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You are here with a business but your previous reputation sucks (sorry to say that). I have not checked the project details (don't want to spend my time) but posting an announcement thread from an account which does not have previous good reputation does not go very well. Everyone will be skeptical. You can see there are already skeptical responses. My guess is that you are not the original owner of the account. Whoever sold you the account had cheated with you.

Anyway, feel free to contact me via PM for any suggestion or marketing plan, you can check my portfolio and website. If you are interested then I can spend some of my time and look at the project details in depth. We can work out of a plan to make it success in any case.

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April 18, 2024, 06:09:25 AM
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This is fun... let's do some math with the information we have on https://www.quinto.games/why-windfall-lottery

So, there are 2.5 Million tickets and each ticket has a cost os $25, while the jackpot is $15M. With that known price of the tickets if you sell them all then the house gets $62,500,000, then let's rest the jackpot of $15M and the total profit from selling all the tickets would be $47,500,000.

So i have two questions.

Why should we make you a millionaire?
Why your house edge is close to 300%?

With 2.5 million tickets at $25 each, it totals to a gross of $62.5M; the player's aggregate pool is $52M, leaving $10.5M gross for the company (and between investors, servers, salaries, taxes, this'll reduce further to the actual profits).

All player prizes are paid from the $52M aggregate pool. First, all the prizes that are listed from 2-0 through 5-3 (in the prize table), then the jackpot itself, which has one guaranteed winner, but it is possible for two people (and no more than two) to win the jackpot, where it would be split. The jackpot is estimated at $15M, but we cannot guarantee its value, since we cannot know the result of the draw until it happens.

All the "minimum win" values in the prize table are guaranteed numbers. There may be more, but never fewer. For instance, there will be at least ten $1M prize payouts, having five cards correct in three positions in the hand.

In my view, no Lottery operator can determine how many people will get 3 or 4 or 5 positions correct, if they do... then something is wrong with their "Provably Fair" system.

I tried your site and it was VERY slow, so I might suggest that you move to a faster hosting provider for your site, because this might chase people away.

The trust rating are also a huge issue, because Lottery systems success are 100% dependant on having a honest and clean reputation.

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April 19, 2024, 12:45:35 AM
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In my view, no Lottery operator can determine how many people will get 3 or 4 or 5 positions correct, if they do... then something is wrong with their "Provably Fair" system.

You are correct for typical lotteries, and we may have buried the lede here about what Windfall Lottery is: it is a variant of the lottery game where every permutation of picks is sold. With a deck of 52 cards and 5 cards per pick, there are 311,875,200 unique picks. To make numbers rounder/more divisible, we also duplicate some of these in order to have 125 picks per ticket and 2,500,000 tickets in total (the provably fair page goes into all the details of how this is done). Our math algorithms guarantee that no picks are duplicated on a single ticket, but since duplicate picks exist in the overall lottery game, it causes the possibility (not a guarantee) that there could be, eg, two jackpot winners, or eleven winners with 5-3, and so forth. We can only mathematically guarantee a minimum value of wins. Smiley

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April 19, 2024, 06:53:31 AM
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You are weird op. Firstly, you might be the same person who deserved the red tags way back in 2021 implying that you aren't trustworthy. Secondly, you might be someone legit and different, but I have no idea why you would market your site through this account.

Either way, I won't be checking your site out since the critical trust factor is already broken.

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