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April 18, 2024, 07:36:43 PM
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I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

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April 18, 2024, 07:41:47 PM
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Merit sources and members with available smerits frequent technical boards over trading discussion board. This is why there are lesser merits circulating in the altcoin section, gambling section etc.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?
Well, people can do with their merits as they wish, they can't be partial with what the can spend at discretion. Merit sources allocated to that board will be the only ones obligated to send merits there. I feel a couple more boards should have designated sources.

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April 18, 2024, 07:47:14 PM
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I think there are more merit sources who are not traders. They understand the technical aspect of Bitcoin better than the trading aspects and those who understand the trading aspects usually have no smerits to give other than to write their appreciation for a reply.

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- a frequent high ranking user on the merit board can apply to being a merit sources
- if you think a post deserves to merited, there are threads that you can submit them to like the one by fillippone.

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April 18, 2024, 07:57:14 PM
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I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

I have actually look at boards and seriously I have seen found out that aside the technical board which yes I don’t question the flow of merits there due to how delicate the board is, the second Board that gets more merits is the beginners and help board. The rest boards are just one or two. The trading discussion board although its sub boards; reputation and scam accusation do get lots of merit too due to the nature of discussion going on there. But the main trading discussion board is neglected, the question one needs to ask is, is it that there is no merit source assign to the board or the merit sources assigned to the board are no longer active. If it is any of the two then the board needs new merit sources because trading is also a very important aspect of bitcoin too, which is the main reason for the forum.

So OP since you’re a frequent on the board and also knowledgeable there I think you should apply as merit source even though we have lots of applications already in place but I can’t find that of trading discussion. Hopefully Theymos will one day approve the applications. But for now let’s do our own bits of applying

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April 18, 2024, 08:01:36 PM
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I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?
The reason is simple, the technical board have more quality post than the Trading discussion section of the forum where people are merely recycling information copied from different website in the name of technical analysis. Besides, to contribute in the technical board, you must be knowledgeable about what you are posting, and that is the reason you see less spamming there. There may be other reason but these are just my observation.

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April 18, 2024, 08:01:53 PM
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Inasmuch as I know that merit sources have the capacity to merit a post in any of the board if they find it Meritable enough, I don't think that sharing of merit among this boards is sentimental. I just found out that the reasons why those boards doesn't earn much merit is due to lack of quality discussions in those sections of the forum but however, I also suggest that if merit sources are to be added, let it include users that are most active in each of the board to enable Posts from each respective boards earn merit without being biased.

I believe that all boards in this forum are relevant that was why they were created but if the forum members finds any board that isn't relevant for discussions then they make their opinion known to theymos as all boards are to enjoy equal privileges just like the most recognized boards that discussions are being held on a regular.

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April 18, 2024, 08:05:44 PM
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I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit.
Because merit sources rarely visit Trading discussion board like they more barely visit Altcoin discussion board. It is fact you need to deal with.

If you feel you have good posts in Trading discussion board, you can apply your posts in Merit sources' merit giveaway topics.

If your posts are actually good in quality, you will see merits sent to your posts by merit sources. Because they observe application posts in those merit giveaway threads. If many merit sources see your application post, but don't send any merit to you, it means your post does not have good quality.

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April 18, 2024, 08:10:47 PM
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I don't think there are merit sources that are designated for any board specifically or that are obligated to send merits to posts people make there. Merit sources and high-ranking members are more likely to spend time in technical boards, so it is natural that more merit is distributed in these boards. If you think there are posts that deserve merits, but they didn't get them, you can always report them to the merit-sharing threads that some merit sources have started.

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April 18, 2024, 08:11:56 PM
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Suggestion
- a frequent high ranking user on the merit board can apply to being a merit sources
- if you think a post deserves to merited, there are threads that you can submit them to like the one by fillippone.
I like your first suggestion, but I do not like the second. The moment I got 1000 merits, I have never thought of posting on a board to request for merit for my quality posts. I think the people that do that are newbies and those that are not yet legendary.

The reason is simple, the technical board have more quality post than the Trading discussion section of the forum where people are merely recycling information copied from different website in the name of technical analysis. Besides, to contribute in the technical board, you must be knowledgeable about what you are posting, and that is the reason you see less spamming there. There may be other reason but these are just my observation.
You are not right about this. I do not search for the information I am providing on the trading discussion. I remember when I was posting very well on exchanges board, I was given merit easily there but unlike trading discussion. This has been over 4 years I know about exchanges and crypto trading. I know some good guys also on trading discussion with good posts. I do not say technical board posters are not good but do not undermine trading discussion board posters also. I am not talking about spamming, I am talking about posts that are worth to be given merit.

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April 18, 2024, 08:31:05 PM
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Apparently yes.

Any member can send merits for any post they want. I have seen merit sources give (what I would deem to be) far too many merits for a single post that did not resonate with me in the same way as it did with them. Not only merit sources but non-merit source members also give merits as and when they want. There is no fixed board or topic that should hold priority over another, it comes down to the individual.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

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April 18, 2024, 08:50:32 PM
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I know some good guys also on trading discussion with good posts. I do not say technical board posters are not good but do not undermine trading discussion board posters also. I am not talking about spamming, I am talking about posts that are worth to be given merit.
When I joined the forum I thought board like trading discussion don't receive merit because that's how everybody's mind is programmed.
I believe the same reason gambling board doesn't is the same reason Trading and discussion doesnt too
There are many boards where merit are rarely found and what's common is their major theme ain't really Bitcoin.
But despite this there are merit source there that still try their best to merit post they could find.
To be sincere merit source ain't really the issue
Like I said before, it has become something like a norm that trading discussion don't receive merit
That those who frequent it don't even send merit in the said Board.
 

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Does this forum have limitations on sending or receiving merits on the Trading Discussion Board? If not, then there is nothing wrong with the forum function. And probably the thread should not the meta section as well. However, the merit of sending depends on the merit source and senders. For me, very rarely do I visit the trading discussion board, which means there are very less chances to get merit from me on the trading discussion board, even though I am a merit source. I visit some other sections and regularly spend my merit, especially in the reputation section. So there is nothing wrong with that; everything depends on the sender's mind. 

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April 18, 2024, 08:58:02 PM
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Maybe too many merit sources do not do not visit the trading discussion board and the non-merit sources who visit the board only post but do not bother to read the posts of others to give merits to quality posts. If there were a few merit sources who visited that board often, more users would earn merits from the posts they make there.
If you feel you have good posts in Trading discussion board, you can apply your posts in Merit sources' merit giveaway topics.
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April 18, 2024, 09:10:00 PM
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The only reason that I can think of why there's not much of merit circulation in trading discussions is because merit sources doesn't frequently visit the board and also each person have their own criteria om how they reward their smerits and boards that they most likely visit. It is also not their obligation to focus their smerits in that board. Let's say that I visit trading discussion board and saw a post that I think it deserves a merit then I will reward it with a merit. If there are lots of good posters there then the suggestion of having someone who will be the merit source of that board (if that person decides to do it) and one more thing, I am sure that you know the point of having merit sources is to reward merits to those who they think they deserved it regardless of what board it is being posted.

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I am not talking about spamming, I am talking about posts that are worth to be given merit.

This is probably part of the issue. As far as I have noticed, there is a significantly higher amount of spam in the trading and gambling boards compared to sections like Technical Discussion. This likely discourages merit sources and other members with merit to share from following these boards, and therefore the circulation of merit is less.

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April 18, 2024, 09:36:02 PM
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Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

Technically, yes, but the reality is that since this is a Bitcoin forum, a lot of concerns are based on the technical aspects of Bitcoin, security, privacy, choice of Bitcoin wallet, and uses. That's why posts and comments on the technical section of the forum receive more merit, followed by the Bitcoin investment section, but the trading section receives less attention by merit source. 

Sometimes, I feel that merit sources are reluctant to give much attention to relevant comments in the trading section and award merits because they fell that that section doesn't have no new idea about trading (lol, just my guess). But I don't really know why it's so. 


Merit sources and members with available smerits frequent technical boards over trading discussion board. This is why there are lesser merits circulating in the altcoin section, gambling section etc.

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April 18, 2024, 09:45:26 PM
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The reason is simple, the technical board have more quality post than the Trading discussion section of the forum where people are merely recycling information copied from different website in the name of technical analysis. Besides, to contribute in the technical board, you must be knowledgeable about what you are posting, and that is the reason you see less spamming there. There may be other reason but these are just my observation.
It's not just about quality posts, buddy. One thing about the technical board is that we have more merit sources, and those who have enough merit to share are very interested in the technical board. They are more active, which means they see more posts they can merit.

You can't visit a board if you don't enjoy what's being discussed there. Everything technical gives some members joy in reading, as they are more willing to learn from it and add to their knowledge.
 
There are also good posts on the trading discussion board, but one thing I just understand in that area is that it's easy to google and use your brain to give an answer to things you know nothing about or don't practice in trading, but it's not that easy on the technical board. I've seen a few members getting listed and some neutral tagged for spreading false information on the technical board.
 
Asking the right question alone on the technical board has earned a lot of merit from newbies; it's not only about the quality; it's about a topic that interests the reader.

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What would you post there that's worthy of merit? An analysis piece maybe? Some data?

From my observations most seasoned members of this forum aren't that much interested in taking risks trading and would rather have a job contributing to something or just hodl their BTC. Historically simply HODL strategy has paid off very well for those that didn't trade at all. Trades have the risk of blowing up in your face or leaving you with losses or at least impermanent losses. Whereas BTC seems to have only kept going up against the dollar in the long run.

So even if you post some very good technical analysis, most people in this forum that are seasoned bitcoiners and would also be able to give you merit, wouldn't find it that interesting. Of course there's a select few that do try to trade here also, but most of them hang out in a single thread in the speculation board. Anyone that has been here a while knows what I'm talking about.

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I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?
It just proves that majority who post in trading discussion boards are not giving highly satisfactory answers, the reason why only few got merited in the end. Or it could be that there are only few merit sources who stay in this trading board, while majority are all spread out throughout the other discussion boards in the forum. Or it’s just that there is actually high standards when giving merits to this trading board discussion.

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I observed and posted before, i even recommends it to newbies that opinionated posts in discussion boards are rarely given merits, this is not exclusive to trading discussions, you can observe its the same on bitcoin discussion, economy boards, politics, how much more in gambling boards. Most posts there are repeating with huge blocks of texts and opinionated.

Unlike on answer-based and experienced boards like most technical boards, service discussions, Meta, B&H, etc.

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