Why is merit not common on trading discussion board

[Oshosondy]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

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[Upgrade00]

Merit sources and members with available smerits frequent technical boards over trading discussion board. This is why there are lesser merits circulating in the altcoin section, gambling section etc.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

Well, people can do with their merits as they wish, they can't be partial with what the can spend at discretion. Merit sources allocated to that board will be the only ones obligated to send merits there. I feel a couple more boards should have designated sources.

[Davidvictorson]

I think there are more merit sources who are not traders. They understand the technical aspect of Bitcoin better than the trading aspects and those who understand the trading aspects usually have no smerits to give other than to write their appreciation for a reply.

Suggestion
- a frequent high ranking user on the merit board can apply to being a merit sources
- if you think a post deserves to merited, there are threads that you can submit them to like the one by fillippone.

[EL MOHA]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

I have actually look at boards and seriously I have seen found out that aside the technical board which yes I don’t question the flow of merits there due to how delicate the board is, the second Board that gets more merits is the beginners and help board. The rest boards are just one or two. The trading discussion board although its sub boards; reputation and scam accusation do get lots of merit too due to the nature of discussion going on there. But the main trading discussion board is neglected, the question one needs to ask is, is it that there is no merit source assign to the board or the merit sources assigned to the board are no longer active. If it is any of the two then the board needs new merit sources because trading is also a very important aspect of bitcoin too, which is the main reason for the forum.

So OP since you’re a frequent on the board and also knowledgeable there I think you should apply as merit source even though we have lots of applications already in place but I can’t find that of trading discussion. Hopefully Theymos will one day approve the applications. But for now let’s do our own bits of applying

[Odohu]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

The reason is simple, the technical board have more quality post than the Trading discussion section of the forum where people are merely recycling information copied from different website in the name of technical analysis. Besides, to contribute in the technical board, you must be knowledgeable about what you are posting, and that is the reason you see less spamming there. There may be other reason but these are just my observation.

[Richbased]

Inasmuch as I know that merit sources have the capacity to merit a post in any of the board if they find it Meritable enough, I don't think that sharing of merit among this boards is sentimental. I just found out that the reasons why those boards doesn't earn much merit is due to lack of quality discussions in those sections of the forum but however, I also suggest that if merit sources are to be added, let it include users that are most active in each of the board to enable Posts from each respective boards earn merit without being biased.

I believe that all boards in this forum are relevant that was why they were created but if the forum members finds any board that isn't relevant for discussions then they make their opinion known to theymos as all boards are to enjoy equal privileges just like the most recognized boards that discussions are being held on a regular.

[dzungmobile]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit.

Because merit sources rarely visit Trading discussion board like they more barely visit Altcoin discussion board. It is fact you need to deal with.

If you feel you have good posts in Trading discussion board, you can apply your posts in Merit sources' merit giveaway topics.

If your posts are actually good in quality, you will see merits sent to your posts by merit sources. Because they observe application posts in those merit giveaway threads. If many merit sources see your application post, but don't send any merit to you, it means your post does not have good quality.

[decodx]

I don't think there are merit sources that are designated for any board specifically or that are obligated to send merits to posts people make there. Merit sources and high-ranking members are more likely to spend time in technical boards, so it is natural that more merit is distributed in these boards. If you think there are posts that deserve merits, but they didn't get them, you can always report them to the merit-sharing threads that some merit sources have started.

[Oshosondy]

Suggestion
- a frequent high ranking user on the merit board can apply to being a merit sources
- if you think a post deserves to merited, there are threads that you can submit them to like the one by fillippone.

I like your first suggestion, but I do not like the second. The moment I got 1000 merits, I have never thought of posting on a board to request for merit for my quality posts. I think the people that do that are newbies and those that are not yet legendary.

The reason is simple, the technical board have more quality post than the Trading discussion section of the forum where people are merely recycling information copied from different website in the name of technical analysis. Besides, to contribute in the technical board, you must be knowledgeable about what you are posting, and that is the reason you see less spamming there. There may be other reason but these are just my observation.

You are not right about this. I do not search for the information I am providing on the trading discussion. I remember when I was posting very well on exchanges board, I was given merit easily there but unlike trading discussion. This has been over 4 years I know about exchanges and crypto trading. I know some good guys also on trading discussion with good posts. I do not say technical board posters are not good but do not undermine trading discussion board posters also. I am not talking about spamming, I am talking about posts that are worth to be given merit.

[JollyGood]

Apparently yes.

Any member can send merits for any post they want. I have seen merit sources give (what I would deem to be) far too many merits for a single post that did not resonate with me in the same way as it did with them. Not only merit sources but non-merit source members also give merits as and when they want. There is no fixed board or topic that should hold priority over another, it comes down to the individual.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

[Ambatman]

I know some good guys also on trading discussion with good posts. I do not say technical board posters are not good but do not undermine trading discussion board posters also. I am not talking about spamming, I am talking about posts that are worth to be given merit.

When I joined the forum I thought board like trading discussion don't receive merit because that's how everybody's mind is programmed.
I believe the same reason gambling board doesn't is the same reason Trading and discussion doesnt too
There are many boards where merit are rarely found and what's common is their major theme ain't really Bitcoin.
But despite this there are merit source there that still try their best to merit post they could find.
To be sincere merit source ain't really the issue
Like I said before, it has become something like a norm that trading discussion don't receive merit
That those who frequent it don't even send merit in the said Board.
 

[The Cryptovator]

Does this forum have limitations on sending or receiving merits on the Trading Discussion Board? If not, then there is nothing wrong with the forum function. And probably the thread should not the meta section as well. However, the merit of sending depends on the merit source and senders. For me, very rarely do I visit the trading discussion board, which means there are very less chances to get merit from me on the trading discussion board, even though I am a merit source. I visit some other sections and regularly spend my merit, especially in the reputation section. So there is nothing wrong with that; everything depends on the sender's mind. 

[Coyster]

Maybe too many merit sources do not do not visit the trading discussion board and the non-merit sources who visit the board only post but do not bother to read the posts of others to give merits to quality posts. If there were a few merit sources who visited that board often, more users would earn merits from the posts they make there.

If you feel you have good posts in Trading discussion board, you can apply your posts in Merit sources' merit giveaway topics.

If they are not interested in posts made in that section, then even if you submit them to their giveaway topics it might still be ignored, so that is not the solution. A merit source for that section is a more viable solution.

[nakamura12]

The only reason that I can think of why there's not much of merit circulation in trading discussions is because merit sources doesn't frequently visit the board and also each person have their own criteria om how they reward their smerits and boards that they most likely visit. It is also not their obligation to focus their smerits in that board. Let's say that I visit trading discussion board and saw a post that I think it deserves a merit then I will reward it with a merit. If there are lots of good posters there then the suggestion of having someone who will be the merit source of that board (if that person decides to do it) and one more thing, I am sure that you know the point of having merit sources is to reward merits to those who they think they deserved it regardless of what board it is being posted.

[Stalker22]

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I am not talking about spamming, I am talking about posts that are worth to be given merit.

This is probably part of the issue. As far as I have noticed, there is a significantly higher amount of spam in the trading and gambling boards compared to sections like Technical Discussion. This likely discourages merit sources and other members with merit to share from following these boards, and therefore the circulation of merit is less.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

Technically, yes, but the reality is that since this is a Bitcoin forum, a lot of concerns are based on the technical aspects of Bitcoin, security, privacy, choice of Bitcoin wallet, and uses. That's why posts and comments on the technical section of the forum receive more merit, followed by the Bitcoin investment section, but the trading section receives less attention by merit source. 

Sometimes, I feel that merit sources are reluctant to give much attention to relevant comments in the trading section and award merits because they fell that that section doesn't have no new idea about trading (lol, just my guess). But I don't really know why it's so. 

Merit sources and members with available smerits frequent technical boards over trading discussion board. This is why there are lesser merits circulating in the altcoin section, gambling section etc.

You are right boss.

[Nwada001]

The reason is simple, the technical board have more quality post than the Trading discussion section of the forum where people are merely recycling information copied from different website in the name of technical analysis. Besides, to contribute in the technical board, you must be knowledgeable about what you are posting, and that is the reason you see less spamming there. There may be other reason but these are just my observation.

It's not just about quality posts, buddy. One thing about the technical board is that we have more merit sources, and those who have enough merit to share are very interested in the technical board. They are more active, which means they see more posts they can merit.

You can't visit a board if you don't enjoy what's being discussed there. Everything technical gives some members joy in reading, as they are more willing to learn from it and add to their knowledge.
 
There are also good posts on the trading discussion board, but one thing I just understand in that area is that it's easy to google and use your brain to give an answer to things you know nothing about or don't practice in trading, but it's not that easy on the technical board. I've seen a few members getting listed and some neutral tagged for spreading false information on the technical board.
 
Asking the right question alone on the technical board has earned a lot of merit from newbies; it's not only about the quality; it's about a topic that interests the reader.

[alani123]

What would you post there that's worthy of merit? An analysis piece maybe? Some data?

From my observations most seasoned members of this forum aren't that much interested in taking risks trading and would rather have a job contributing to something or just hodl their BTC. Historically simply HODL strategy has paid off very well for those that didn't trade at all. Trades have the risk of blowing up in your face or leaving you with losses or at least impermanent losses. Whereas BTC seems to have only kept going up against the dollar in the long run.

So even if you post some very good technical analysis, most people in this forum that are seasoned bitcoiners and would also be able to give you merit, wouldn't find it that interesting. Of course there's a select few that do try to trade here also, but most of them hang out in a single thread in the speculation board. Anyone that has been here a while knows what I'm talking about.

[Russlenat]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

It just proves that majority who post in trading discussion boards are not giving highly satisfactory answers, the reason why only few got merited in the end. Or it could be that there are only few merit sources who stay in this trading board, while majority are all spread out throughout the other discussion boards in the forum. Or it’s just that there is actually high standards when giving merits to this trading board discussion.

[PX-Z]

I observed and posted before, i even recommends it to newbies that opinionated posts in discussion boards are rarely given merits, this is not exclusive to trading discussions, you can observe its the same on bitcoin discussion, economy boards, politics, how much more in gambling boards. Most posts there are repeating with huge blocks of texts and opinionated.

Unlike on answer-based and experienced boards like most technical boards, service discussions, Meta, B&H, etc.

[_BlackStar]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

Most likely - there are many achievement sources that have high standards for distributing achievements among user posts. They don't spend too much time getting some posts on boards that have a lot of spammers and low-quality posts – one of which might be a trading discussion board.

This is not a failure of the merit system, but each merit source has its own interests and standards in distributing merit. I also noticed a lot of things that many users might not like - this includes providing many merit to merit sources, not for non-merit source users. On the other hand - every user has the right to spend his merit to anyone he deems appropriate, even if only providing them to posters in a certain board.

[EL MOHA]

What would you post there that's worthy of merit? An analysis piece maybe? Some data?

From my observations most seasoned members of this forum aren't that much interested in taking risks trading and would rather have a job contributing to something or just hodl their BTC. Historically simply HODL strategy has paid off very well for those that didn't trade at all. Trades have the risk of blowing up in your face or leaving you with losses or at least impermanent losses. Whereas BTC seems to have only kept going up against the dollar in the long run.

Now this is where the trading Board is very well undermined or under appreciated. First of all what you just described is apparently more of a future trading which we all know is risky, same as gambling which also has its board and requires attention too. But I will like to say trading spans a lot more than the leverage trading you are talking about. There are other options like the P2P trading, spot trading which are not gamble and are essential part of bitcoin. Members can ask related questions like they do on technical board or members can create threads explaining functions too. Also to be frank just as fundamental analysis is important, Technical Analysis too is very important too, because even some one that DCA is holdings can catch a perfect entry over time if they have technical analysis combine with fundamentals. So I disagree and say that there are many post that are worthy to be merited on that board too

[freedomgo]

Apparently yes.

Any member can send merits for any post they want. I have seen merit sources give (what I would deem to be) far too many merits for a single post that did not resonate with me in the same way as it did with them. Not only merit sources but non-merit source members also give merits as and when they want. There is no fixed board or topic that should hold priority over another, it comes down to the individual.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

Yes, I have to agree. There’s no specific board where merit sources are advise to give their merits, but it all boils down to their own choice or preference as to what type of post they are going to merit. And in case if this trading discussion board receives less merits, most probably the answers to the thread are not meritable. That’s only from my own personal point of view.

[OcTradism]

Yes, I have to agree. There’s no specific board where merit sources are advise to give their merits, but it all boils down to their own choice or preference as to what type of post they are going to merit. And in case if this trading discussion board receives less merits, most probably the answers to the thread are not meritable. That’s only from my own personal point of view.

If it is not your favorite board and you don't have proper knowledge for discussions on that board or just simply lack of interest to read discussions in your non-favorite board, it will less likely you will thoroughly read and merit posts in that board.

It's personal favorite and habit of reading and distributing merit but if in general, a board has limited merit distribution, I am keen on quality issue of posters and posts in that board.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

There is no partiality in doing merit distribution process, what i only want to draw your attention on is the various pattern some of the merits sources are using in giving their merits, such may not really works on the board in question and some other board, a merit source may choose to focus on economy and bitcoin discussion board, while some other may have theirs under application for review, local boards and the likes, if i may go by your question, then we have enough numbers of boards aside trading discussions lacking merits, maybe if Theymos should later consider adding more sources, it may help with the circulation as expected.

[JollyGood]

From my perspective, this thread was an unnecessary enterprise and probably should not have been started. The same questions have been asked over and over again over a period of time and keep getting asked again and again, over and over. All that seems to sometimes changes are the words but the messages is the same.

In the end, as long as there is no merit abuse taking place members will merit posts according to their own criteria regardless of how it does (or does not) resonate with anybody else whether it is on the Trading board or elsewhere.

Yes, I have to agree. There’s no specific board where merit sources are advise to give their merits, but it all boils down to their own choice or preference as to what type of post they are going to merit. And in case if this trading discussion board receives less merits, most probably the answers to the thread are not meritable. That’s only from my own personal point of view.

[EarnOnVictor]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

Yes, friend, there is a huge partiality going on in that regard and it has been so discouraging since I joined this forum. This is Bitcointalk for you, the sentiment of the forum is too biased towards some sections and will not help other sections which are equally important, especially if there are experienced traders who want to share valuable knowledge to help beginners.

Come what may, good trading education and responses, and quality speculations should garner enough merits, but the reverse is the case. Except for a few who are believed to be "respected members" who sometimes post lesser quality posts compared to those they ignored. Some of these posts are even lies (I've caught a few), but still garnered enough merits because a certain person posted them.

More dedicated merit sources in those sections (Trading & Speculation) are needed. I mean those who are truly trading inclined (not the fake ones with good profiles) and are active traders with passion, they should be assigned to those sections.

Trading made Bitcoin what it is today, not the technicality alone and I wonder what Bitcoin will look like if trading stops this minute.

[m2017]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

You see, discussions of trading are not even worthy of merit, not to mention full-fledged engagement in this type of activity.

Merit discrimination in trading discussions? We urgently need to allocate merit quotas!

But seriously, it means (subjectively) these posts don't deserve merit, because any assignment of merit is very subjective due to the (personal) characteristics of human nature.

[KingsDen]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

Invariably, your question could be asked as thus; why is merits not common in other boards apart from the technical board. Also, it could be asked why every answer in technical board will receive merit but not applicable to other boards.

When I was new in the forum, I was told that every board has their respective merit sources. This means trading board and as well as other boards have their merit sources and these sources have forgotten where they were allocated, they should be reminded to pay much emphasis on their allocated boards.

[SamReomo]

I have also noticed that the threads/posts on the trading discussion board don't get many or any merits. What I think is that the merit sources aren't much interested to spend their sMerits on those boards and that's why posts/thread don't get many merits on those boards.

However,  in technical discussion, most merit sources merit the posts/threads, but most of the merits are often given to the ones who already have more than 1000 merits. Only a few newbies or low rank members get merits from those boards.

I know the members with 1000 + merits have deep technical knowledge than anyone else and that's why they get those merits. However, if someone who has deep knowledge about trading, and that person may not get required merits for the posts/thread then that's somewhat unfair.

Another reason for few merits on that boards could be the availability of merit sources on that board. Like in gambling board very few merit sources spend their sMerits and that could be the case with that board as well. I believe a good solution would be to appoint merit sources for that board so they could merit the valuable posts/threads.

[hd49728]

I know the members with 1000 + merits have deep technical knowledge than anyone else and that's why they get those merits. However, if someone who has deep knowledge about trading, and that person may not get required merits for the posts/thread then that's somewhat unfair.

Life is not fair but if you can make good posts, you will earn merit. Just quickly or slowly earn merit, difference is rate of earning merit.

If a poster can not earn merit, it is about post quality and boards are no longer reasons for that user. Because after a long time of writing many posts, no single earned merit, it means something about actual post quality of that user.

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[Lucius]

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I am not talking about spamming, I am talking about posts that are worth to be given merit.

You have to accept that some boards are simply "uninteresting" for the majority of merit sources, although we cannot say that they are the only ones responsible for merit distribution, considering that anyone can send merits if they have them on their "merits account". I'm not saying that there are no quality posts in Trading Board, but there is also a lot of spam, especially in topics that have more than 10 pages.

If you think there are really good and quality posts that deserve merits, there are forum members who are merits sources and have topics where such posts can be reported. I don't see how in any other way someone can be "forced" to browse that part of the forum and look for quality posts.

[yahoo62278]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

I have always considered most of the posts on all the "Discussion" boards to be spam and low quality. There are a few gems on each of the boards, don't get me wrong, but a very large number of the posts are from sig spammers and are filled with trash content.

If a merit source also feels this way, they will likely avoid that section. I'm not saying they all feel that way, it just could be the case.

[SamReomo]

If a poster can not earn merit, it is about post quality and boards are no longer reasons for that user. Because after a long time of writing many posts, no single earned merit, it means something about actual post quality of that user.

I'm not talking about single merit but talking about merits that posts/threads receive in board where the merit sources spend more time.

If you check the WO thread, and technical discussion board then you'll see that the number of merits per post in those areas of the forum is much high as compare to that of gambling boards.

I believe that no matter how good quality posts you make, if those aren't noticed or read by the merit sources or the ones who have sMerits then getting merits for those posts/threads isn't easy.

I know there are reputed merit sources who run their threads to help/support such threads/posts, but those members have to wait months to get some merits on their posts/threads.

While the ones who make good and valuable posts/threads in trading discussion board that's the one which OP mentioned may not get merits for such valuable posts/threads and some of those posts get unnoticed.

[Synchronice]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

I find trading discussion board a little boring. It's full of the same questions and same answers and I guess people with lots of merits rarely visit this board. The same applies to gambling discussion and some other boards. Technical board is most merited board because it's hard to give an answer to technical question. Any random guy can easily read and write an answer about how to control emotions in trading but one can rarely answer to hard questions and problems that are asked in technical board. So, that's the case and it looks very normal and logical for me.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I think there are more merit sources who are not traders.

I can attest to being one of those, as I've had the section on ignore for as long as I can remember.  IIRC most of the threads deal with TA, and even if I was a trader I don't believe in chart-watching voodoo pseudo-science-y stuff like that.  The only reason I haven't put Speculation on ignore as well is because occasionally I like to jump in when bitcoin is being extremely volatile and either post my enthusiasm or some such thing, but that section is also pretty much the same stuff all the time.

Suggestion
- a frequent high ranking user on the merit board can apply to being a merit sources
- if you think a post deserves to merited, there are threads that you can submit them to like the one by fillippone.

Trading Discussion probably doesn't need a merit source dedicated to it (I think the local boards need them much more), but your second suggestion is a good one, and members can always PM me to request a post history review.  I'm still doing them, albeit with much delay these days.

[Cryptoprincess101]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

Going directly to your question, the merit system cuts across the whole board as there were no exemption of any board for merit but just that discussions in some boards may not be to a standard of earning merits. There is no partiality in merit circulation because most merit sources focuses most of their interests in technical and informative boards.

Giving answers to questions doesn't necessarily mean you would be awarded for the knowledge you have given out to that topic because there are some threads that requires a direct question and you will see a lot of users saying almost same thing. Does it mean that they should all be awarded merits because they all got the answers right? Obviously not.

When talking about the trading board not getting enough merit, there are also other boards that get few or no merit so I assume it is just lack of quality discussions in those sections.

[TheUltraElite]

Trading Discussion is often becoming filled with people filling their posting quota and posting only for the same. That and the fact that sources tend to merit those whom they have already merited in the past, adds to the fact that merit received in that section by a post is much less in number than another section.

There are so many sections of this forum which have names tarnished to be "shitposting paradise" sections and ignored by sources, TD often becomes like that too. Helpful posts often get buried under the cesspool and I dont see any solution at this point to this.

[Beparanf]

Trading Discussion is often becoming filled with people filling their posting quota and posting only for the same. That and the fact that sources tend to merit those whom they have already merited in the past, adds to the fact that merit received in that section by a post is much less in number than another section.

There are so many sections of this forum which have names tarnished to be "shitposting paradise" sections and ignored by sources, TD often becomes like that too. Helpful posts often get buried under the cesspool and I dont see any solution at this point to this.

In addition to this, Most of the merit source or high smerit users usually hangout on Bitcoin technical board that’s why it’s the most popular board for smerit distribution.

All that you mention is accurate. That is the reason why only few merit sources merit that board because the topic is already recycled when there’s a movement in the market. I believe merit source only visit this thread intentionally if they are reviewing someone post in that board.

[Coyster]

maybe if Theymos should later consider adding more sources, it may help with the circulation as expected.

More merit sources would increase merit circulation, but i read in one user's merit source application topic that Theymos is not considering adding any new merit sources, so this is not an option right now.

When talking about the trading board not getting enough merit, there are also other boards that get few or no merit so I assume it is just lack of quality discussions in those sections.

That is your own subjective believe and that of others who think the same way. If there are good posters who post there, they would definitely be asking the same question OP is doing, even though i don't think it is going to yield anything.

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

I'm not very active and visit the trading discussion board, but I see that some of the members who make posts there don't really deserve merit, because many of the ones I see just answer like normal answers

different from the members who are active in technical bitcoin discussions, they help solve a lot of technical problems regarding Bitcoin and Bitcoin wallets, so they deserve to be given merit

[Cryptomultiplier]

Trading Discussion is often becoming filled with people filling their posting quota and posting only for the same. That and the fact that sources tend to merit those whom they have already merited in the past, adds to the fact that merit received in that section by a post is much less in number than another section.

There are so many sections of this forum which have names tarnished to be "shitposting paradise" sections and ignored by sources, TD often becomes like that too. Helpful posts often get buried under the cesspool and I dont see any solution at this point to this.

The trading section is unarguably filled not with shitposters only, but with posters who have neither tried trading full-time nor intend to, nor even fully understand what trading and the strategies of trading are.

Besides people using the trading section to fulfil their quota as you have mentioned, I think any thing or initiative that has come out of cryptocurrency and in this case Bitcointalk forum is good, and it should be an environment which encourage more ways to earn and benefit from, not some calling others who are being serious as hustling here or poking at posts and ideas we don't agree with.

More creative post will secure more merits from whomever has them, and it is more guaranteed to produce merits than who one who makes more of criticizing posts.

[Poker Player]

The trading section is unarguably filled not with shitposters only, but with posters who have neither tried trading full-time nor intend to, nor even fully understand what trading and the strategies of trading are.

Well, many people who jump into trading tend to do so thinking that they are going to get rich with little capital and leverage because they follow the influencer of the moment. To some extent it is a board like gambling, but less spammy I would say. However, it has many similarities. Today I have seen talk of degenerates in terms of traders and in that I think many of them are similar to degenerate gamblers. I am not surprised, then, that not many merits circulate on that board just as they do not circulate on the gambling boards.

[Rikafip]

However,  in technical discussion, most merit sources merit the posts/threads, but most of the merits are often given to the ones who already have more than 1000 merits. Only a few newbies or low rank members get merits from those boards.

That's simply because most of the quality posts are written by Legendary memnbers, and not because people don't want to merit lower rank member's posts. And situation is pretty much similar on the frst of the forum because there is a lack of quality new members.

However, if someone who has deep knowledge about trading, and that person may not get required merits for the posts/thread then that's somewhat unfair.

There are plenty of merit giveaway threads where anyone can report posts he belives deserve more merit.

I believe a good solution would be to appoint merit sources for that board so they could merit the valuable posts/threads.

Just because merit/post ratio on a certain board is low, doesn't mean that automatically needs a dedicated merit source as you have to take into consideration quality of discussion as well.

[Lida93]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit. Sometimes like 1 out of 20 or 30 or more, you will only be given just 1 merit. If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

Is there no partiality in merit giving and receiving?

The reason is simple, the technical board have more quality post than the Trading discussion section of the forum where people are merely recycling information copied from different website in the name of technical analysis. Besides, to contribute in the technical board, you must be knowledgeable about what you are posting, and that is the reason you see less spamming there. There may be other reason but these are just my observation.

You're not correct mate, you can't just assume that there is more quality posts in the technical board than we have in the trading discussion board, maybe you are no trader and don't visit the trading discussion board often  and that's why you have this view of yours.

It is glaring that we have a lot of members that are knowledgeable in trading than we do in technical and that's why you will simply see those quality posts there in the technical right from first page. Unlike trading discussion board where a mixed multitude is found, if merit source could walk through the board and major their rate of merit rewards to those quality posts amidst the less quality, that alone could be an encouragement in regards to the complain OP is making, and in extension encourage those with less quality post or recycling as you termed it to work on their knowledge in order to do better by creating high quality like their counterparts in that board.
 
Trading in bitcoin is as important as the technical aspect of it and the two can't be overemphasized or exhausted in as much as bitcoin or cryptocurrency is concerned.

[Plaguedeath]

if merit source could walk through the board and major their rate of merit rewards to those quality posts amidst the less quality, that alone could be an encouragement in regards to the complain OP is making

Wait, why you blame the merit source?

They're not the one who have sMerit, even they distribute their merit in other boards, those users who received the merits can distribute to Trading Discussion Board. Trading board is active, not like in Serious Discussion, so they shouldn't give an excuse if they didn't aware with Trading Discussion Board.

In addition, anyone has a same chance to report his post to [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source.

[Alone055]

It could be because of the excess of low-quality posts in the section, but if you think that the problem exists because of a lack of merits in circulation in that area, then that problem can only be solved if there is a dedicated merit source assigned to that board.

It should be someone who is generally active in there so that he can open and read each thread to see if they can find merit-worthy posts and merit them. Normally if there are a lot of low-quality posts, as said by others, most merit sources or people carrying a lot of smerits to give away will have the board on ignore, but an active and dedicated merit source will go through it all.

[un_rank]

...then that problem can only be solved if there is a dedicated merit source assigned to that board.

This will be the best solution. It is easy to say there are only low quality posts in a particular section and not visit that part of the forum at all contributing to the low quality there. Merit sources do not visit those boards and are not obligated to if they are not designated to that board. Some have those boards on ignore so any quality post there will not get noticed and there is no incentive for users to put in any effort to contribute constructively.

Or I am the hopeful one and those boards are lost causes.

- Jay -

[tbct_mt2]

This will be the best solution. It is easy to say there are only low quality posts in a particular section and not visit that part of the forum at all contributing to the low quality there. Merit sources do not visit those boards and are not obligated to if they are not designated to that board.

No contract between theymos and merit sources that after a merit source applies and gets approval to be a source, the merit source user will have to use sourced merit for distribution in one or two boards only. It's free to distribute merit to any board if the merit source sees good posts.

Some have those boards on ignore so any quality post there will not get noticed and there is no incentive for users to put in any effort to contribute constructively

Merit sources don't have time to read all posts of the forum, in all boards. Theymos does not ask merit sources to do it, it's a free job and they are volunteers to be merit sources.

If merit sources distribute sourced merits to good, quality posts, they complete their tasks, no more stress.

[un_rank]

No contract between theymos and merit sources that after a merit source applies and gets approval to be a source, the merit source user will have to use sourced merit for distribution in one or two boards only. It's free to distribute merit to any board if the merit source sees good posts.

Being a source is voluntary work, meaning there is no actual contract between them and theymos, but some are designated to boards (which they applied to) to improve the flow of merit there, we have merit sources for local boards. It is not a rigid arrangement and the user can merit outside the local board too but have an obligation to merit in that board.
It goes without saying that users only apply to be a source for a board they frequent.

Merit sources don't have time to read all posts of the forum, in all boards. Theymos does not ask merit sources to do it, it's a free job and they are volunteers to be merit sources.

You are missing my point. If theymos asks for application from users who visit the gambling board or altcoin section and want to be sources, he is not forcing users to read the entire forum, just were they spend most of their time and help increase the flow of merit there.

- Jay -

[lovesmayfamilis]

You can pay attention to which post and which topic receives the most merit.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent
The trading section may not be the most popular. In my opinion, experienced traders are unlikely to share the necessary advice or even visit this board if they are based on the opinion that their strategy should be gestated like a child is gestated, with your experience and secrets. While visiting this board, those who only spread demagoguery do not do anything to make these posts successful.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I have noticed that someone will ask question on trading discussion, you will give answer but your post will not be given any merit.

Meritocracy has been vastly discussed in here for a while now... I've observed that more people are down to this fact for clout rather than fixing the system (if there's any problem with it at all). Meanwhile, everyone would either want it adjusted, fixed, or act like nothing is wrong with the frequency/concentration in circulation at all..
Now for the fact that the system isn't moderated, it's basically about what a merit source deems to be a quality post... They may solely look at technical post as what they'd assume to spend more merits on.
There's also a thread that has plentiful of it -- The WO thread! I think that alone should give you a Broadway of understanding how this works.

There are plenty of merit giveaway threads where anyone can report posts he belives deserve merit merit.

Rikafip, Have you been reporting yours too?

[SamReomo]

Just because merit/post reatio on a certain board is low, doesn't mean that automatically needs a dedicated merit source as you have to take into consideration quality of discussion as well.

I think having a dedicated merit source for a board isn't bad either as that merit source can look for high quality, useful posts on that particular board and send merits to the members who make good quality, helpful posts on that board.

I believe most boards should have a few dedicated merit sources so the members who make posts in those boards may get some merits. Like most local boards have dedicated merit sources who send merits to the helpful posts at those local boards.

[Rikafip]

Rikafip, Have you been reporting yours too?

I have, in my local board. We have a thread dedicated to that, and I did until I reached 1k merit. After that I stopped as it didn't make sense to take away from those who need merit more than I did.

I believe most boards should have a few dedicated merit sources so the members who make posts in those boards may get some merits. Like most local boards have dedicated merit sources who send merits to the helpful posts at those local boards.

Those who feel that certain board where they like to write is undermitedcan always make a merit source application.

[stadus]

The trading section is unarguably filled not with shitposters only, but with posters who have neither tried trading full-time nor intend to, nor even fully understand what trading and the strategies of trading are.

Well, many people who jump into trading tend to do so thinking that they are going to get rich with little capital and leverage because they follow the influencer of the moment. To some extent it is a board like gambling, but less spammy I would say. However, it has many similarities. Today I have seen talk of degenerates in terms of traders and in that I think many of them are similar to degenerate gamblers. I am not surprised, then, that not many merits circulate on that board just as they do not circulate on the gambling boards.

In short, majority of these traders act like gamblers so it makes sense why they fail to attract merits in this technical board. However, there are still few widely experienced traders who are certainly getting consistent merits in trading, simply because they were enhanced as real traders in the market, and have absorbed completely the real essence of trading and how it can be highly successful and productive. The rest are just random gamblers who hide their identity as somewhat traders.

[Rruchi man]

The rest are just random gamblers who hide their identity as somewhat traders.

The real traders who have knowledge of trading, and others who have some knowledge of trading are familiar with some basic terms and abbreviations in trading and will often use them in the trading section where they belong in their posts. When these people make a post or reply that is reasonable, it is hard for the topic to be ignored by merit sources on that board and others who have merits to give.

Merit is not common in the trading section because some of the posts there are not merit-worthy in the eyes of the merit sources there as they are made by people who have no trading experience.

[Igebotz]

However, if someone who has deep knowledge about trading, and that person may not get required merits for the posts/thread then that's somewhat unfair.

There are plenty of merit giveaway threads where anyone can report posts he belives deserve more merit.

No matter how good those posts are the best you can get is max 2; if the merit rascals on those threads are not interested in trading or have no knowledge of trading, they can't do much. We understand this is Bitcoin forum and more merit source were appointed on that board but trading still play a big part to the ecosystem and should be given some sort of attention too.

On the other Note - I will not fault anyone for not paying attention to such boards. The trading and altcoin board and sub-board is choppy and has been on my ignore list for a while now. Just like the gambling board, people who are genuine gamblers are just small numbers, while the others are speculators with little substance.

Theymos has abandoned us on the gambling discussion board   

[Coyster]

In addition, anyone has a same chance to report his post to [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source.

Merit giveaway topics like these do not solve the problem, if the MS's who run these giveaways are not interested in posts in the trading board, there is a high tendency that they would ignore submissions from the trading board for merits in their giveaway thread. Theymos is also not considering adding new merit sources anytime soon, so the best solution is for users' who frequent the trading board and have a lot of smerits to send merits to posts of high quality made in that section, and this can increase merit circulation there.

[Bravut]

However, if someone who has deep knowledge about trading, and that person may not get required merits for the posts/thread then that's somewhat unfair.

There are plenty of merit giveaway threads where anyone can report posts he belives deserve more merit.

No matter how good those posts are the best you can get is max 2; if the merit rascals on those threads are not interested in trading or have no knowledge of trading, they can't do much. We understand this is Bitcoin forum and more merit source were appointed on that board but trading still play a big part to the ecosystem and should be given some sort of attention too.

On the other Note - I will not fault anyone for not paying attention to such boards. The trading and altcoin board and sub-board is choppy and has been on my ignore list for a while now. Just like the gambling board, people who are genuine gamblers are just small numbers, while the others are speculators with little substance.

Theymos has abandoned us on the gambling discussion board   

Well said.
Trading board should have been one of the most prioritize board on the forum, like you can't afford to ignore the fact that Trading board plays a vital role in this forum.
Let's say if we are to talk about the Technicalities in price about Bitcoin, its the Trading board all other board is just fundamentals and speculators. Since it's not really getting the recognition, I will still participate actively for the love of Trading  and her insights.

I agree with the OP, the only way to avert that is for those with Merits especially high rank members to merit quality post.

[Findingnemo]

Merit sources ignored most of the discussion boards due to spam invasion so it's obvious that if no merit sources is not visiting the circulation of merit will be limited too. And trading discussion just repeat the same kind of responses and threads so it's understandable why they chose to ignore same goes to gambling discussion, Economics, Bitcoin discussion.

The same kind of responses will likely get tons of merit if it's created in a Local board...

[PX-Z]

Merit sources ignored most of the discussion boards due to spam invasion so it's obvious that if no merit sources is not visiting the circulation of merit will be limited too. And trading discussion just repeat the same kind of responses and threads so it's understandable why they chose to ignore same goes to gambling discussion, Economics, Bitcoin discussion.

I don't wonder if signature campaigns and managers will also blocklist these boards you have mentioned at least except for bitcoin discussion since it's more filtered now with less redundant topics. And gambling boards for casino related campaigns.

[OcTradism]

I don't wonder if signature campaigns and managers will also blocklist these boards you have mentioned at least except for bitcoin discussion since it's more filtered now with less redundant topics. And gambling boards for casino related campaigns.

Each campaign manager and each company have different needs and campaign rules. Depends on their target customers from their company products, they will focus on several boards and local boards. Then company representative will work with a campaign manager to run a signature campaign with best rules in order to maximize exposure to their target customers and their favorite boards in the forum.

Most ignored boards by campaign managers are Atlcoin boards, Economics, Society and Politics, and boards without signature.

[SamReomo]

Merit sources ignored most of the discussion boards due to spam invasion so it's obvious that if no merit sources is not visiting the circulation of merit will be limited too.

If I'm not wrong then merit sources mostly ignore the gambling boards as those are least interesting for them and topics at that board mostly contain repeated material. The trading discussion board is not like gambling discussion because in this board various good topics are created by some good traders and others who are into trading share their insights related to those topics.

I'm not sure why merit sources even think about ignoring a board like trading discussion. If I was a merit source, I would never ignore boards like trading discussion since it's highly helpful for Bitcoin community because most crypto users start their crypto journey with trading and if such board isn't given priority then that's not going to be helpful for those users.

[ABCbits]

If it is technical board, any useful answer will be bombarded with merits.

IMO it's just some useful answer on technical board which get merit. Besides, if your answer turns out to be unhelpful, useless or harmful, you could face major critic or even accusation.

I'm not sure why merit sources even think about ignoring a board like trading discussion. If I was a merit source, I would never ignore boards like trading discussion since it's highly helpful for Bitcoin community because most crypto users start their crypto journey with trading and if such board isn't given priority then that's not going to be helpful for those users.

IIRC theymos never prohibit merit source from ignoring certain boards, so it's not surprising some of them does that. Besides, some merit source who apply to be one mention which board they'll pay attention to.

[crwth]

I believe everyone has already given an answer that fits your question. It's most likely to be more informational on the technical discussion board and a lot of users who post there have merits. My take in this is that you can post like how people post on the technical discussion board and move it to the trading discussion. Post a more technical approach and not just any post that are repeating then you can have a chance in having merits being given.

[Mate2237]

Not only in trading board but also in the altcoins board and the the gambling by board. And now that the forum more focused on gambling and projects those two boards should have their merit sources and probably each board is two. People were saying that those who are posting in the gambling section are shitposters or spammers. And now that gambling campaigns are more that the exchange and altcoins campaign, most of those people are posting in the gambling section now, and I think they have join the shitposters and spammers group.

Those boards that busy in the forum should have their own merit sources. Because I also discovered that those who not posting in the technical board merely received merits even though they contribute meaningful to a post.

[Findingnemo]

Merit sources ignored most of the discussion boards due to spam invasion so it's obvious that if no merit sources is not visiting the circulation of merit will be limited too.

If I'm not wrong then merit sources mostly ignore the gambling boards as those are least interesting for them and topics at that board mostly contain repeated material. The trading discussion board is not like gambling discussion because in this board various good topics are created by some good traders and others who are into trading share their insights related to those topics.

I'm not sure why merit sources even think about ignoring a board like trading discussion. If I was a merit source, I would never ignore boards like trading discussion since it's highly helpful for Bitcoin community because most crypto users start their crypto journey with trading and if such board isn't given priority then that's not going to be helpful for those users.

Trading discussion is more of generic replies so filtering out the really good posts may be a difficult task for them, I skipped discussion boards from posting for a while but I didn't stop visiting them to know the market situations.

Discussions boards are clean from spams for sure comparing to how they used to be at the time of merit introduction but users who are being merit sources don't find convincing reasons to add into their watchlist.

[Woodie]

Merit sources and members with available smerits frequent technical boards over trading discussion board. This is why there are lesser merits circulating in the altcoin section, gambling section etc.

Agreed!!!

If this gap has been identified I wonder why one or two users haven't been deliberately added as merit sources to service these  boards especially that several users have shown interest to take up this responsibility, unless they are regarded as a spam jungle because of the mega threads that exist that does not need to be served the golden nuggets(merit)

Otherwise boards like the trading board do need a merit source to encourage constructive discussions especially that trading is a big part of the crypto ecosystem!!!

[Casdinyard]

Cause boards like these are very subjective, and people can easily call out others on their bullshit at the first whiff of it if they think some guy posting out there's just commenting for the sake of commenting. Plus these are not the types of  boards where I would think most merit sources frequent in since I would guess a lot of them already got their shit together, and are probably already well-versed in investing and trading.

Also could be the case that since most people who frequent the trading boards don't have that much sMerits on them from the get-go, they can't send any to other people even if they deem it deserving. So what ends up happening is a board that is not specifically meant for merit-sending, and is instead really all about sharing advices and perhaps some shit they feel like they need to put up to other people's attention.

At the end of the day, what this means is that if you want to receive merit, you have to diversify your content like a well-rounded bitcointalk member, but at the same time, you can't fabricate this shit so the best course of action is to just really be you, and push out content you think is good for the forum, don't make comments or create posts that you think people will flock upon, that's a surefire way to get ignored and be called out.