Introducing scammers to the forum.

[SatoPrincess]

I wonder how many people here have scammers as friends. Without being told, people are generally cautious around friends and family members who have a criminal record. I don’t agree with the idea that scammers are being introduced to Bitcointalk by members. It may be difficult for newbies to find the forum mainly because Bitcointalk is not visible on google search engines when you search for Bitcoin. But scammers have a different motivation to search for crypto communities and anywhere they can find victims for their scam.

[KingsDen]

Op, here is an open forum, anyone can choose to be anything. A user could have an account for business and services and as well have another account for scamming. No one actually knows who is behind the screen. About scammers, I am no longer afraid of them since I discovered this forum. This forum will make you to be smart, and smarter than scammers. So, it will sound odd that someone is a member of this forum and still fall for cheap scams.

I know some scammers are intelligent people

I don't think they are intelligent. An intelligent person will never live a life of a scammer. He will find a way to bring bread and butter in a legitimate way so that the business can sustain for longer term and make a positive impact for him and his family.

Maybe we can say that scammers are negatively intelligent or they are just lazy intelligent guys who could not harness their potentials but resorted to scamming.

[Mia Chloe]

I can't say people are introducing scammers to the forum, although it is definitely possible, you also have to take note of the fact that this forum is a very popular one as well as a public one. There are certain keywords that if contained in your search using a service like Google or bing , Bitcointalk will definitely pop up especially because of the large volume of crypto information contained here especially relating to Bitcoin.
Of course people also introduce others to Bitcointalk how ever I strongly believe that majority of scammers and shit posters here were not introduced by someone here but rather found it themselves. Nevertheless I believe that the main reason most persons fall for scams is because they too were either greedy or poorly informed.

[Stalker22]

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Avoid referring the forum to friends and even family who we know have tendencies to become scammers, have affiliations with any known scammer, etc.

I get that you dont pick your family or relatives, but if your friends show signs of becoming scammers, thats your responsibility, buddy!  You gotta surround yourself with better  people!

Besides, I dont agree that we should avoid recommending Bitcointalk altogether.  There is good info here and  scammers will try to scam regardless.

[Rruchi man]

Besides, I dont agree that we should avoid recommending Bitcointalk altogether. 

I didn't say not to recommend bitcointalk entirely, but for us to be cautious about who we refer it to.

Have you ever seen a person with a tattooed inscription/tag on the forehead that says - I'm a scammer, be guided? How's anyone supposed to know?

There is no forehead inscription, but some characters and attributes they may show or display will give them away, and because they may be your friends, you may choose to ignore these red flags.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Scammers are even the ones with the top updates; they are always working around the clock looking for a better river to Phish. A place where they believe they can catch more victims is where they are always after. So, you don't have to be surprised about who is bringing scammers to the forum; the forum is not hidden from any kind of person; it is open to the public, and therefore anybody can actually find their way here without the help of another person. 

Sometimes, if I search for something on Google, part of the results I get always point to BTT, and that could be a way that anyone can easily get access to the forum. 

There is a parable that my father always says, "It's a house rat that will always invite the street rat." I hope you know what that means   . 

[Asuspawer09]

I mean these scammers for sure are just like regular people, they surely just blend in on the forum and we have no idea who they are, these guys that is already exposing themselves are just taking their chances I guess that there might be someone or some newbies that are going to take their obvious bait, Finding out the forum was kinda easy I guess I mean this forum was kinda famous when it comes to cryptocurrency forum, if your going to search about the top cryptocurrency forum, Bitcointalk is probably going to be the number one on the list or at least on the top. There might be some, where they are only invited by their friends but turn out to be some kind of scammer, I mean they would easily expose themselves most of the time unless they will have a good opportunity to scam a guaranteed money.

For sure there are always some chances that they are referring the forum to the wrong people,I think it just couldn't be helped that we just don't know who the scammers are, even if we just told it to someone that we really trust, we just don't know if he or she is a scammer somehow.

You know if we are going to be real scammers are not going to get away the only thing that we can do is be ready and be aware of it, be knowledgable so that scammers are not gonna be able to scam you, as long as these scammers are earning money they will not stop.

[Cryptomultiplier]

Scammers are even the ones with the top updates; they are always working around the clock looking for a better river to Phish. A place where they believe they can catch more victims is where they are always after. So, you don't have to be surprised about who is bringing scammers to the forum; the forum is not hidden from any kind of person; it is open to the public, and therefore anybody can actually find their way here without the help of another person.

Sometimes, if I search for something on Google, part of the results I get always point to BTT, and that could be a way that anyone can easily get access to the forum.

There is a parable that my father always says, "It's a house rat that will always invite the street rat." I hope you know what that means   .

Very on point. I think that those that have stayed for longer here and have participated in many ways here, were originally introduced to the forum by a friend or family or foe who guided them through to learn about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies investment.
The first time I joined, it took me a while to even navigate through the boards and after some time, I don't think many who are new here was here by accident, including the scammers who either see here as a learning, hunting, and harvesting ground.

[AB de Royse777]

Maybe we can say that scammers are negatively intelligent or they are just lazy intelligent guys who could not harness their potentials but resorted to scamming.

Intelligent is a gift. If someone misuse the gift then he is an unfortunate man. It does not bring anything good for anyone.
 

Without being told, people are generally cautious around friends and family members who have a criminal record.

If I don't know the moves of my friend(s) then he is not my friend at all, it's just someone who you know a little. A friend even with criminal record still is a friend for you.

[FinneysTrueVision]

You can’t ever get rid of scammers completely. Every platform that reaches a certain level of popularity has these kinds of problems, it isn’t unique to Bitcointalk. Crypto users are especially targeted. The only thing we can do is make people aware of what to look for and also follow best practices to protect our own selves from getting scammed.

[Mate2237]

The issue is you would not know if that person you referring is a scammer and there are sometimes the person you referred to the forum would referred others to the forum and those are the scamming group that would enter the forum with scamming activities. And one thing I like this forum is that those elements of scammers doesn't survive in the forum and once they detected, negative tag full their profile and they can't use it to Scam anyone here. So the best way for them is to repent and do the right thing.

And those who have the mindset.od scamming are easy to identify because as they came the first thing for them to do so scam people by going to the loan board to request a loan or or ask people to invest in their service.

[Casdinyard]

I have been thinking about how I've been reading a lot of topics from scammers who give themselves away easily by saying they recover bitcoins and I've been wondering how are these scammers finding about Bitcointalk when some regular people have not yet discovered this forum on their own.

I know some scammers are intelligent people who read a lot and can discover this forum from their research while trying to gather information, but it is possible that some of the people we are referring to the forum are scammers, and we now also have to be careful of the people we refer to Bitcointalk.

Avoid referring the forum to friends and even family who we know have tendencies to become scammers, have affiliations with any known scammer, etc.

The best way to deter these motherfuckers away from the forum is not giving them attention besides the complaint and the call-out.

What I usually do when I see posts like these is straight up report it for fraud, as most of the time I don't really feel like going out of my own way and creating a special thread for them in the reputation section, it's redundant anyway. I don't make comments about how I can smell through their bullshit, how I think they are a scammer or whatnot. Starving them of the attention they crave and need is the best course of action.

Cause picture this, these people bank on the hope that some hapless little turd who's down in his luck is gonna stumble upon their thread and ask for their help. And because of the nature of this forum, posts with more comments get put on the front page of the board for everyone to see. If we keep commenting on posts like this, even if the comments were well-meaning and preventative, there's still some glue-sniffer out there who's thinking the risks of not trusting the blatant scammer on the forum far outweighs the amount of money that they could steal from them.

So making sure they don't get to these posts by not commenting and just reporting them is the best course of action, they don't get in the first page of the board, no idiot's gonna happen upon their posts, and they would move someplace else or get banned here.

[mirakal]

I know some scammers are intelligent people who read a lot and can discover this forum from their research while trying to gather information, but it is possible that some of the people we are referring to the forum are scammers, and we now also have to be careful of the people we refer to Bitcointalk.

Avoid referring the forum to friends and even family who we know have tendencies to become scammers, have affiliations with any known scammer, etc.

Haven’t you also have a thought that the scammers are or might be regular members already in the forum?. The forum allows the creation of alts so once a member decides to go into scamming they can just easily create another account and advertise their products. So to me, the biggest number of this scam accounts are members that are already here

Also I don’t second the idea of you not guiding people to the forum because they will scam. This forum could be the only place they get authentic information about cryptocurrency and should they later involve into scamming you can as well report the account

Scammers are everywhere, so it’s highly possible that some of the regular members here are the real scammers. This is the reason why one should not be too trusting but keep his bitcointalk account privately so that not only he will protect his own account but eventually protect the other forum members as well. And to think that we can’t pinpoint easily the scammers in the forum, then it’s still best not entertain new members that are still completely strange to you.

However, with regards to not guiding the people into bitcointalk forum, why not? We kept on saying that bitcointalk forum is the most legit and highly trusted crypto forum and yet we don’t promote it to those interested people. I believe this is some kind of a selfish thing, most especially if we are sure enough that their lives will eventually changed in the future once they’ll  be introduced to the forum and gain proper education about bitcoin and the crypto space.

[Majestic-milf]

 This is a social space where both the good and bad come to for the supposed aim of finding more knowledge about bitcoin and what most of these scammers look out for is a place they can easily get ignorant and naive people they can sell their cheap tricks to. Its quite funny how many stories about scam we've gotten here but yet we still see that there are more people falling and it leaves me to wonder how many of them are legit and which are just begging for attention.
 No one wishes to be scammed but what steps are we taking from repeating it? stopping or limiting who we disclose info to about the forum wont cut it because at the end of the day, the offender when caught can choose to come in as another user and the cycle continues.

[GbitG]

I know some scammers are intelligent people

Hmm, that's true mate!
Scammers tend to misuse their abilities. In fact, if the scammer is presented as a subject, then my theory will be concluded from this: that the ability of these people is the best, but the conscience of these people is dead, they do not know the difference between right and wrong. The only fault of these people is that they obviously go with those things that are very difficult to do, but these people prefer this difficulty. Which is impossible to do, but these people do it. It is known that these people are smart and intelligent, but due to a lack of awareness, they lose their common sense. These spammers are actually hopeless and desperate people, so they don't like the right act as compared to the wrong.
 

You can’t ever get rid of scammers completely. Every platform that reaches a certain level of popularity has these kinds of problems, it isn’t unique to Bitcointalk. Crypto users are especially targeted. The only thing we can do is make people aware of what to look for and also follow best practices to protect our own selves from getting scammed.

Yeah definitely the target of spammers is the place that is popular. Spammers test you in a variety of ways to make you fall victim to their goals. And in the same way, it is also clear that not only on Bitcointalk, but everywhere where there is money interaction, you will find spammers there in countless numbers.

[Hispo]

Actually. Because some of the experience I have had with scammers which try to steal from people by posing as recovery experts or whatever, I can tell you, they mostly seek for victims in technical support webpages and also in review webpages where people who are having trouble with their accounts of exchanges and personal wallets are more likely to go to and fall for their scam.
They can also try to find victims in YouTube videos which are about Cryptocurrencies, regardless the whole YouTube channel is dedicated to Bitcoin or it is just a mainstream channel like CNN or Fox, giving some of their economics segments to talk about Bitcoin.
In reality, those scammers who promise to recover money for people are very unlikely to be here, as there are many experimented members who will call out their scam as soon as they post about it in here. This forum may be one of the places of the internet where there is a high concentration/participation of people who know how to spot a BTC scams the fastest. Not a place we're scammers would like to spend their time.

[Mpamaegbu]

I know some scammers are intelligent people who read a lot and can discover this forum from their research while trying to gather information,

Reading brings about exposure and development. He who won't read shouldn't blame others for reading. You're right about the level of hard work and reading scammers put in a bid to up their game. So, why can't regular people also do same and shake off laziness at reading and in making their own research? A few number of us stumbled on this forum in our bid to settle our curiosity.

Avoid referring the forum to friends and even family who we know have tendencies to become scammers, have affiliations with any known scammer, etc.

I ain't sure anyone who isn't a fraudulent would do that but we know how fraudsters and scammers snoop around to find information. They might be looking into one's devices when one isn't watching and then go search the sites out after they've memorized them.

[Shamm]

Where there is money, expect scammers to lurk around, too. Bitcoin is value. In this forum you can make lots of money through different deals, trades, services and carrying out tasks. So I am not surprised that we have so many scammers here, and it is not just Bitcointalk. They are in other forums too, and it's even worse in some. At least here in Bitcointalk we do have the default trust and flag system.

I don't think there is always someone introducing new scammers here. Most of them are probably old scammers who have been busted, and they just create new accounts.

Where ever we go in the forums or in the real world there are many scammers who actually want to us to be Their victims so we need to vigilant and double our security inorder to prevent such mistakes. Agree with this mate that those newbie account they are scammers it's look like they are not totally newbie for sure they are old scammers like what you said that maybe they got banned because of their doing then now they create a new account. And act like they are a new one. So everyone of us here need to double our security.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

I've been wondering how are these scammers finding about Bitcointalk when some regular people have not yet discovered this forum on their own.

Do you know the duration of time, efforts and research some of these scammers are giving out just in other to ensure that they get hold of something new, learn and know some newest and latest information's they could use to offeror launch an attack, these people were virtually always online, checking on sites, roaming about and making findings, for someone to have read about bitcoin and cryptocurrency or scam in it, they would have been seen a place where articles concerning their research is being mentioned and discussed as such on bitcointalk, when a newbies is feeling reluctant of reading and learning new things about bitcoin than the tip of information's they once knew.

[Rikafip]

Avoid referring the forum to friends and even family who we know have tendencies to become scammers, have affiliations with any known scammer, etc.

And how exactly do you know that people we refer to have tendeinces to become scammers? You are basing that assumpion on what exactly?

This has to be one of the weirdest "advices" I have seen around here in quite some time.