When will the real bull run begin?

[JamesDaniel90]

I have been investing in crypto since January 2022 and it is beginning to test my patience waiting for the bull run.

I was buying all along the bottom of the bear market so current prices do not interest me too much as I got in a lot lower so I am just waiting to take profits.

Looking at the 2020 halving, the market didn't really start moving until 4 months later - is this likely to be the case after this recent halving too?

I will continue to hold as I feel we are only months away from the real bull run but it is testing my patience lately waiting month after month for some real price action.

How is everyone else feeling?

[Oshosondy]

Looking at the 2020 halving, the market didn't really start moving until 4 months later - is this likely to be the case after this recent halving too?

You have said it yourself, that in 2020, bitcoin did not increase immediately after halving. Not only in 2020, you can also track the record of 2012 and 2016 halving. Holders need to be patient because bitcoin can not just start increasing immediately as some impatient people will expect. Bitcoin will still get to many all-time high.

[AbuBhakar]

I have been investing in crypto since January 2022 and it is beginning to test my patience waiting for the bull run.

I was buying all along the bottom of the bear market so current prices do not interest me too much as I got in a lot lower so I am just waiting to take profits.

What kind of take profit you are expecting? If you purchase at bottom assuming you are here since 2022 which means you probably enter at 15k level. You already gain approximately x4 of your investment which is already a massive amount unless you are just investing few dollars and waiting to turn into millions when Bitcoin price reach 1M per Bitcoin.

If you are expecting a x100 gain then you are already 10 years late. Current Bitcoin price is already high. You will need to wait a decade or more just to reach that target profit besides you are just invested for 2 years while you are already losing patience while you are already at profit?

[un_rank]

You can't or shouldn't be waiting for a bull run when you know from historical data one is not coming soon. You've been investing since January 2022 which was at the point when the last bull run was starting to lose steam. This normally leads to a bear market, the halving, some months of sideways movement and then the bullrun.

This market has been different in that we already hit an ATH even before the halving. If you can't be patient through one of the lowest bear markets, in terms of percentage drop and one of the quickest rebounds, this may not be the investment option for you.

- Jay -

[Orpichukwu]

We can't expect every halving result to be the same as before this halving. Some have speculated that bitcoin will see a bull run even before the halving happens.

Some have said we will experience some price drops immediately after the halving. Just before the halving, we saw the new Bitcoin clock breaking the previous one, which was driven by many factors, and the ETF approval is one of them.
 
I'm not certain when we will experience the next bull run, but what I know is that it's close; an exact date can't be given, but in the coming month, maybe before the end of the 2nd quarter of the year, we might start experiencing the bull season, so let's just keep the hope and expectation on a lower level in order not to be disappointed by the result.

[JamesDaniel90]

I have been very patient up till now - just the last few days have been struggling with it but I will continue to hold.

I am up 85% currently so I'm happy so far but want want a lot more so just need to remember it will take time and expect that to come end of this year / early next year.

[Amphenomenon]

I was buying all along the bottom of the bear market so current prices do not interest me too much as I got in a lot lower so I am just waiting to take profits.

Actually this is a bad idea, the price you may be interested again to buy more btc may never come ever again, just continue to buy because in a actual fact we don't know when bitcoin price will rise or drop but the only thing that makes most not bother about the price is from the fact that we know bitcoin is currently the world best store of value and if we HODL we will earn more in the long run.

Also bitcoin price movement this year before halving is different from the previous halving since we got to a new ATH before this halving, while others notably me were waiting for the dip before this year halving to buy btc, I miss it because I didn't even notice when the dip occurs since I wanted more price drop which was disappointing. I advise you continue to buy and HODL in order to make the best out of every market seasons.

[Lucius]

I have been investing in crypto since January 2022 and it is beginning to test my patience waiting for the bull run.

You should have written that you invested exclusively in altcoins, so your question has nothing to do with the Bitcoin discussion. Likewise, until recently, you were bragging about how your coins achieved significant growth, and now suddenly you no longer have the patience to wait for something that doesn't actually have to happen - what if the bull run has already passed?

In addition to all that, it should be noted that at the end of 2022, the price of 1 BTC was just over $15 000, which even today is a 400% increase, and that's something that most people are super happy with - except for those who are greedy and expect 10 000%.

How is everyone else feeling?

I feel great, I listen to people talking about investments that bring them 3-5% per year and I wonder how they can be satisfied with that - I am therefore super satisfied and feel like I won the lottery

[JamesDaniel90]

I have been investing in crypto since January 2022 and it is beginning to test my patience waiting for the bull run.

You should have written that you invested exclusively in altcoins, so your question has nothing to do with the Bitcoin discussion. Likewise, until recently, you were bragging about how your coins achieved significant growth, and now suddenly you no longer have the patience to wait for something that doesn't actually have to happen - what if the bull run has already passed?

In addition to all that, it should be noted that at the end of 2022, the price of 1 BTC was just over $15 000, which even today is a 400% increase, and that's something that most people are super happy with - except for those who are greedy and expect 10 000%.

How is everyone else feeling?

I feel great, I listen to people talking about investments that bring them 3-5% per year and I wonder how they can be satisfied with that - I am therefore super satisfied and feel like I won the lottery

Yes the price of Bitcoin at the END of 2022 was $15k but i started investing almost 12 months before that when it was $42k , big difference.

[Fiatless]

I have been very patient up till now - just the last few days have been struggling with it but I will continue to hold.

I am up 85% currently so I'm happy so far but want want a lot more so just need to remember it will take time and expect that to come end of this year / early next year.

The Bitcoin business is very profitable but it also has some level of risk and the greater your risk level the greater your chance of making more money. Some person has already sold and collected their profit because they don't want to take more risks. If you want more then you should be patient enough to wait till the real bull starts in the next few months. If you were able to hodl on for the past two years, then don't be tempted to throw in the towel.

But it is still important to note that this present bull run might be different from others so nobody knows the precise time the bull run will start. We got to the ATH before the halving which was quite different from other halving. My suggestion would be, just be patient and hope for the best.

[Gcrypto786]

I have been investing in crypto since January 2022 and it is beginning to test my patience waiting for the bull run.

I was buying all along the bottom of the bear market so current prices do not interest me too much as I got in a lot lower so I am just waiting to take profits.

Looking at the 2020 halving, the market didn't really start moving until 4 months later - is this likely to be the case after this recent halving too?

I will continue to hold as I feel we are only months away from the real bull run but it is testing my patience lately waiting month after month for some real price action.

How is everyone else feeling?

Bull Run depends on different market situations, like News, Technical & Sentimental, but as for the past history of BTC halving, its takes almost 2-3 months before BTC gets pumped and cross his Higher high, so if you have invested in good coins(coins with use case) then the only thing you need is patience.

[Lucius]

Yes the price of Bitcoin at the END of 2022 was $15k but i started investing almost 12 months before that when it was $42k , big difference.

I just gave you an example, but you invested in altcoins that you claim have already achieved up to 3000% and you are still not satisfied? Of course, everyone always wants more, but sometimes you have to be realistic in life and not ask for too much. Anyway, I would give you the title of the most impatient member of the forum, considering that you have started dozens of topics like this one.

In the last 6 months, Bitcoin has increased around 150%. Some altcoins I hold have seen 1000% increase and some over 3000%.
This is why I buy altcoins , to make a lot more money then I would if I had only invested in Bitcoin.
I can then put profits I make from my altcoins this bull run into Bitcoin in the next bear market.

[JamesDaniel90]

Yes the price of Bitcoin at the END of 2022 was $15k but i started investing almost 12 months before that when it was $42k , big difference.

I just gave you an example, but you invested in altcoins that you claim have already achieved up to 3000% and you are still not satisfied? Of course, everyone always wants more, but sometimes you have to be realistic in life and not ask for too much. Anyway, I would give you the title of the most impatient member of the forum, considering that you have started dozens of topics like this one.

In the last 6 months, Bitcoin has increased around 150%. Some altcoins I hold have seen 1000% increase and some over 3000%.
This is why I buy altcoins , to make a lot more money then I would if I had only invested in Bitcoin.
I can then put profits I make from my altcoins this bull run into Bitcoin in the next bear market.

Yes some of my altcoins have seen over 3000% gain since middle of last year but I didn't cash it all out - I am waiting for the real bull run to come when that 3000% may turn into 6000% or even more.

[Jawhead999]

If today is June, 2025, you're not wrong to ask this question.

But now it's still April, 2024, it's not even reach Q4 2024, while the last two bull season occur in Q4 halving event.

From now on to Q3, it's expected the "dip" before Bitcoin price spikes.

If you are expecting a x100 gain then you are already 10 years late. Current Bitcoin price is already high. You will need to wait a decade or more just to reach that target profit besides you are just invested for 2 years while you are already losing patience while you are already at profit?

The lowest of Bitcoin price since 2021 was $20K, 100x gains mean the price will hit $2M and the market cap will be $40T, it looks too high for a decade...

[franky1]

I have been very patient up till now - just the last few days have been struggling with it but I will continue to hold.

I am up 85% currently so I'm happy so far but want want a lot more so just need to remember it will take time and expect that to come end of this year / early next year.

"just the last few days have been struggling"

seems you had bad advice from someone who promised you to get millions in days of halving
THEY LIED TO YOU
you pinned your greed, your hopes, your wishes on bad advice from whomever told you that you will get rich quick at the halvening

first bit of advice calm your nerves and reset your greed aspirations.

the next ATH is usually 1 year+ after a halving and the chances of a 100x from last ATH is not a expectation any more
1st cycle was 100x ($0.30-$30)
2nd cycle was 40x ($30-$1.2k)
3rd cycle was 16x ($1.2k-$20k)
4th cycle was 3.5x ($20k-70k)

so dont expect 100x again expect 2-4x of last ATH

if you have been buying since 2022 then you have been buying during the cycles lows of $15k-$40k
so your amounts should be 1.5x-3x+ already
lets say we do just 2x from last ATH(140k) but you bought at the current cycles (2022 mid) of $35k you may get a 4x, but thats*
lets say we do 4x from last ATH(280k) but you bought at the current cycles 2022 low of $16k you may get a 17x, but thats*
*still just wishful hopes with no knowledge of what the end ATH will be for this cycle

as for when you wish to cash out. well no one can predict the ultimate ATH
it may be $100k/$140k/$200k/$280k

the next struggle you will have is again YOUR GREED
you may wait or hope for say $200k/$280k but wait and wait, where the ATH might only hit $140k so you end up not selling out due to the GREED of being told to expect/wait for $200k+ so end up not selling in 2025 and thus end up having to wait until the next cycle of 2028-2029's halving and ATH


next bit of advise you are already in profit. no one suggests you should cash out all of it but if money is a struggle which you cant survive the next year. take out SOME of your profit now to cope with the short term and that will calm your struggle as you wait for the ATH next year

[Dunamisx]

I have been investing in crypto since January 2022 and it is beginning to test my patience waiting for the bull run.

What about the ones we already had since the beginning of this year, a lot of investors have already make their money and take profits from the recent one experienced, don't just tell me that you have been investing since 2022 and now that we are in 2024, you have nothing to write about concerning how you have been profitable with your bitcoin investment, maybe you should have more patience to partake in the subsequent bullrun for the season between now and the end of the year.

[DanWalker]

How is everyone else feeling?

Has anyone ever suspected that bull season is coming? I mean there won't be a bull season like we expected and the game has changed. It changed because when people realized that the bull season will come after the halving, and people are holding tight to take profits. Think about it, if everyone is determined to hold and not sell and only sell when the price increases, who will be willing to spend money to buy at a higher price?
I am thinking about this scenario and I think we will no longer have a bull season or a bear season, instead bitcoin will grow slowly and sustainably, not increase sharply and decrease sharply like before. That also means there won't be an altcoin season like many people expect.

[franky1]

How is everyone else feeling?

Has anyone ever suspected that bull season is coming? I mean there won't be a bull season like we expected and the game has changed. It changed because when people realized that the bull season will come after the halving, and people are holding tight to take profits. Think about it, if everyone is determined to hold and not sell and only sell when the price increases, who will be willing to spend money to buy at a higher price?
I am thinking about this scenario and I think we will no longer have a bull season or a bear season, instead bitcoin will grow slowly and sustainably, not increase sharply and decrease sharply like before. That also means there won't be an altcoin season like many people expect.

yes there is a known sentiment that once a pattern is known. people plan for the pattern and thus manoeuvre differently than unknown precedence's previously, thus end up changing the pattern now its a known factor of the masses

however the consequence can actually make the pattern appear sooner or out perform previous

, who will be willing to spend money to buy at a higher price?
I am thinking about this scenario and I think we will no longer have a bull season or a bear season, instead bitcoin will grow slowly and sustainably, not increase sharply and decrease sharply like before. That also means there won't be an altcoin season like many people expect.

what you have to realise is that there are places on the planet where electric is more than $0.50/kwh which is where people having a mining cost of
over $140k right now. and so when they see market rates of under $140k, they are happy to buy at market instead of mining as its a discount compared to mining.
with continual growth of mining costs this too makes more people happily buy at market even when premium as its still discount compared to mining

the secret to finding the resistance point of market purchasing is to find the most expensive mining cost on planet..
in 2021 it was $75k which explained why buy orders dried up at $70k in 2021
oops did i just reveal another stat people can use to find patterns of lows and highs

[Yatsan]

Before this year ends, I guess. But I am not expecting for the uptrend to happen within a month after the halving. As we can see on the market, prices of crypto are still down and have low volume compared to previous months which is an indicator of a bearish tendency. Obviously, the best thing to do now is to patiently wait for further market confirmations. Things won't happen on a single snap which is an enough reason to avoid FOMO and FUDs. Just observe for now and fill your bags if there will be a better opportunity under your risk appetite.

How is everyone else feeling?

Has anyone ever suspected that bull season is coming? I mean there won't be a bull season like we expected and the game has changed. It changed because when people realized that the bull season will come after the halving, and people are holding tight to take profits. Think about it, if everyone is determined to hold and not sell and only sell when the price increases, who will be willing to spend money to buy at a higher price?
I am thinking about this scenario and I think we will no longer have a bull season or a bear season, instead bitcoin will grow slowly and sustainably, not increase sharply and decrease sharply like before. That also means there won't be an altcoin season like many people expect.

It was just a misconception and were just referred in such way because of the events which happened before after the halving. But if you would look closer to timeframes, there were a lot of accumulation stages on the previous halving before the increase became continuous. Altcoin season on the other hand happens after Bitcoin dominance, which happened numerous times in this industry.

[Cryptoprincess101]

Actually, looking at previous halvings like that of 2016 and 2020 it took within 160 days before the bull run began but for the fact that ATH was created before this halving makes it difficult to predict when bull run will be speculated to occur because when we look at the last quarters of 2023 till now, you can agree with me that it has been a bullish period so now that the halving event has also occurred, there will be some oscillation in the price of Bitcoin and if you observed you will see that since the halving the price have not been too forward neither too backwards so some after halving corrections may occur before we can start experiencing the real bull run. But let's just expect the real bull run within 200 days after the halving