Locked threads on reputation board

[hugeblack]

will try to report using "locked topic please move it to Archival"

It is still unhandled. It seems that reporting does not help much in such cases.

[LoyceV]

I don't like the locked Reputation topics, but I don't think it's worth changing the rules. Scammers have been using locked threads on the Marketplace boards for years, and the rules didn't change. I'd argue scammers are worse than someone hurting someone else's feelings.

[Poker Player]

It is still unhandled. It seems that reporting does not help much in such cases.

I also reported it for the same reason and it is unhandled as well, just like other reports in the section. In my experience, moderators tend to take little action in that section, especially in cases like this. As it is a controversial section I imagine they fear a thread of complaint on Meta if they act.

[dkbit98]

Should we have a rule regarding the reputation section where users cannot open a thread and immediately lock it? I feel like users the thread is about should have the right to defend themselves if they wish, without having to open a new thread cluttering the section.

No, I don't think we should change forum rules just because of few members doing stuff like that.
We can however report all members who are creating similar topics, and if they continue to make them I would think about giving them temp ban or some other type of limitation.
Separate Kindergarten or Circus board could be created so mods can move topics there instead of trash 

[Igebotz]

Should we have a rule regarding the reputation section where users cannot open a thread and immediately lock it? I feel like users the thread is about should have the right to defend themselves if they wish, without having to open a new thread cluttering the section.

No, I don't think we should change forum rules just because of few members doing stuff like that.
We can however report all members who are creating similar topics, and if they continue to make them I would think about giving them temp ban or some other type of limitation.
Separate Kindergarten or Circus board could be created so mods can move topics there instead of trash 

Agreed! If the Forum is going to change rules everytime few Kindergarten grads messed up, creating and locking a topic intended for public discussion, we may end up not having any rules left. If you are going to write an episode on someone's character, you must also allow others to express their opinions. This is how adults discuss...

[ibminer]

Should we have a rule regarding the reputation section where users cannot open a thread and immediately lock it? I feel like users the thread is about should have the right to defend themselves if they wish, without having to open a new thread cluttering the section.

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Separate Kindergarten or Circus board could be created so mods can move topics there instead of trash  

   This would be a fun way to handle it, assuming the board is sort of like investigations and isn't crawled by search engines... but then the users will probably cry "forum censorship!"

[philipma1957]

Should we have a rule regarding the reputation section where users cannot open a thread and immediately lock it? I feel like users the thread is about should have the right to defend themselves if they wish, without having to open a new thread cluttering the section.

No, I don't think we should change forum rules just because of few members doing stuff like that.
We can however report all members who are creating similar topics, and if they continue to make them I would think about giving them temp ban or some other type of limitation.
Separate Kindergarten or Circus board could be created so mods can move topics there instead of trash  

board of clown posted topics.

and a clown mod.

clown mod can move a thread to clown board and the clown board thread are always unlocked and unmodded.

clown mod has one more ability he can delete and post on any thread on the clown board.


clown mod works for 1 month time and rotates out.

I volunteer for Jan 2025 duty as clown mod.
whos wants to do Feb 2025 duty?

[joker_josue]

Should we have a rule regarding the reputation section where users cannot open a thread and immediately lock it? I feel like users the thread is about should have the right to defend themselves if they wish, without having to open a new thread cluttering the section.

No, I don't think we should change forum rules just because of few members doing stuff like that.
We can however report all members who are creating similar topics, and if they continue to make them I would think about giving them temp ban or some other type of limitation.
Separate Kindergarten or Circus board could be created so mods can move topics there instead of trash  

board of clown posted topics.

and a clown mod.

clown mod can move a thread to clown board and the clown board thread are always unlocked and unmodded.

clown mod has one more ability he can delete and post on any thread on the clown board.


clown mod works for 1 month time and rotates out.

I volunteer for Jan 2025 duty as clown mod.
whos wants to do Feb 2025 duty?

I can take over in February.

And my name makes it easy to tell that I have experience in the role - jokes are on me. 

[EarnOnVictor]

That's thoughtful of you and I've seen countless threads where some users would allege another user, but before you know it, the OP of the thread would lock it. So why allege some without giving such a person the fairness to state his own side of the story and for people to judge? This is certainly unfair.

A strict rule is the answer at the same time, and I even think that the current rules of the forum are outdated, it has to be updated where some points are removed and some are added for the betterment of the forum and its users at large. A lot of users are engaging in some excessiveness, and such should be frowned upon and curbed with the updated rules.

[JollyGood]

Should we have a rule regarding the reputation section where users cannot open a thread and immediately lock it? I feel like users the thread is about should have the right to defend themselves if they wish, without having to open a new thread cluttering the section.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5495165.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494178.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5493610.0

I have just noticed this thread therefore am only replying now after I noticed my name is mentioned.

I cannot recall when I last created a thread and locked it, therefore this is not a systematic pattern of conduct on my part and my name should not be attributed to those that might/are doing this type of conduct on a regular basis (including if they are known trolls).

The thread I created was not locked immediately, to my knowledge it was locked several hours later and at that point there were no replies were made but I decided to lock it however I copied the content of that post in another post in a different thread and even linked the post in the locked thread which was already part of the discussion.

Maybe I reacted and turned the tables on that narcissist because he created several threads asking for members to exclude someone else and it was he that received a lot of exclusions. We are human after all, infallibility is something we cannot possess.

And no, there should not be a rule in the Reputation board or anywhere else in the forum where creating and locking a thread is prohibited. Each thread that has been created and locked immediately (or even later if no replies were made) should be assessed on an individual basis and members can come to their own conclusions.

Here are a few examples. It might be ok at times I suppose, but really comes off as kind of cowardly to not allow someone to defend themselves doesn't it.

As for creating a thread and it being automatically considered cowardly by virtue of not allowing someone to defend themselves, that also is a matter of perspective and also should be based on the context of the locked thread. On that thinking, yes it is acceptable sometimes depending on the situation.

[yahoo62278]

Should we have a rule regarding the reputation section where users cannot open a thread and immediately lock it? I feel like users the thread is about should have the right to defend themselves if they wish, without having to open a new thread cluttering the section.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5495165.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5494178.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5493610.0

I have just noticed this thread therefore am only replying now after I noticed my name is mentioned.

I cannot recall when I last created a thread and locked it, therefore this is not a systematic pattern of conduct on my part and my name should not be attributed to those that might/are doing this type of conduct on a regular basis (including if they are known trolls).

The thread I created was not locked immediately, to my knowledge it was locked several hours later and at that point there were no replies were made but I decided to lock it however I copied the content of that post in another post in a different thread and even linked the post in the locked thread which was already part of the discussion.

Maybe I reacted and turned the tables on that narcissist because he created several threads asking for members to exclude someone else and it was he that received a lot of exclusions. We are human after all, infallibility is something we cannot possess.

And no, there should not be a rule in the Reputation board or anywhere else in the forum where creating and locking a thread is prohibited. Each thread that has been created and locked immediately (or even later if no replies were made) should be assessed on an individual basis and members can come to their own conclusions.

Here are a few examples. It might be ok at times I suppose, but really comes off as kind of cowardly to not allow someone to defend themselves doesn't it.

As for creating a thread and it being automatically considered cowardly by virtue of not allowing someone to defend themselves, that also is a matter of perspective and also should be based on the context of the locked thread. On that thinking, yes it is acceptable sometimes depending on the situation.

Your thread was posted as it looked like the same thing that JPR was doing, but you are correct and you posted the info and allowed for the point to be argued. With that being said, I cannot really group you into the same category as the other guy. If you're allowing the point to be argued then you're not being a coward either.

The question is more directed towards people like JPR that are not allowing a point to be argued. Yes I know someone can make another thread and argue their point, but they shouldn't have to.

People don't wanna rule change and that's fine just seems silly to have the ability to lock a thread in reputation period.

[EarnOnVictor]

I don't like the locked Reputation topics, but I don't think it's worth changing the rules. Scammers have been using locked threads on the Marketplace boards for years, and the rules didn't change. I'd argue scammers are worse than someone hurting someone else's feelings.

I quite understand the school of thought you are bringing this from, but at the same time, we should canvass for equity and affairs for all. The suggestion will also stop the dire need to keep opening new threads for the same purpose just for defence or counterattack.

The fact that scammers are doing worse should not be taken as the basis to overlook what is not good just as it is also been overlooked in some other aspects of the forum where rules are supposed to be adjusted for obvious reasons.

Unless what the OP alleged is good, I believe changing rules to address it is important.

[LoyceV]

The fact that scammers are doing worse should not be taken as the basis to overlook what is not good just as it is also been overlooked in some other aspects of the forum where rules are supposed to be adjusted for obvious reasons.

It's the other way around: if something that's worse didn't lead to a change of rules, it's not very realistic to expect the lesser evil to lead to change.