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May 07, 2024, 08:10:10 AM |
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
No because I prefer to be anonymous as long as possible when it comes to gambling. When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
It should not be a nightmare if the user play in reputable casino so user no need to be afraid of getting huge win or afraid of KYC. Reputable casinos will not use KYC as a way to hold user's money but it might be because of the terms. Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
A bit complicated case because it can be seen from 2 different sides. From the casino's side, they have the right to hold the money if user unable to provide the data and fail to pass the KYC. Can it be called as money laundering? I have no idea to be honest but I dont think it is a money laundering. From the player's side, it is the real nightmare if the user fail to provide the requested data. Again, the failure of providing the requested data can be various cases, so it is complicated case to discuss if there is no real story with detailed information from both casino and player.
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May 07, 2024, 08:12:23 AM |
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
If I have the option of doing KYC before registration and doing it after winning big, I would choose the first option. It is better to know the documents you are expected to present as KYC at the onset than to be subjected to a strict and complicated process. I prefer to have the maximum win and prepare for the rigorous process of KYC. If I win big, I will be willing to get any verification they want. If my privacy is compromised, with the big win I can relocate to another country. Money seized due to suspicion of money laundering should be transferred to the government of the country it is coming from. Such funds should be sent to the law enforcement agencies. The casino will be guilty of holding laundered funds. If they make use of the seized money they are part of the crime and should be convicted of stealing and fraud.
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May 07, 2024, 08:23:33 AM |
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Most casinos nowadays don't let you do the KYC process until they request it, this means you will not get KYCed unless a lot of money or fraud is involved, but it would be nice if users could do the KYC process before deciding if to deposit or not.
Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays.
If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
I usually try to complete the whole process when I start something new. That is, deposit, processing, withdrawal. I check how long it takes for each step (usually deposits are the only fast ones). That gives me an idea of what to expect. If I don't have a clear way of getting money out of some process, then I just won't continue that idea.
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Alphakilo
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May 07, 2024, 08:52:44 AM |
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Most casinos nowadays don't let you do the KYC process until they request it, this means you will not get KYCed unless a lot of money or fraud is involved, but it would be nice if users could do the KYC process before deciding if to deposit or not.
Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays.
If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
I am not trying to disprove what you have written but I have had two different experiences from two casinos. While one needed me to complete my KYC before making any deposit, the other waited until I had won a some cash >$50 which was my second time until they asked. Both are crypto casinos and I think they can pass for modern too. We can say that a casino has laundered money when they help a criminal organization to move large amount of crypto. However, if they withhold a customer funds, it is not classified under launder. Because it lacks the features of money laundering
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May 07, 2024, 09:21:51 AM |
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Most casinos nowadays don't let you do the KYC process until they request it, this means you will not get KYCed unless a lot of money or fraud is involved, but it would be nice if users could do the KYC process before deciding if to deposit or not.
Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays.
If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
Firstly, if at the beginning, before gambling and making a deposit, you can carry out the KYC process, I think it should be done, because don't wait to win big first, as long as you can do it at the beginning, why not, isn't that right, friend? It's best to just do it at the beginning, but that's not a bad thing in my opinion. secondly, I don't think players or users need to be afraid, after all I am sure that many people gamble, their goal is to get a big win or maxxWin. so if they get a big win and the casino requires them to complete the KYC process, this is what is not expected, if there is something that can be done in advance then do it, don't delay, chances are if it is like this it will make things more difficult for us, with Those of us who may not be patient in cashing in the winnings we have obtained can take careless and rash actions. I didn't think they would be like that, but this happened to my friend, only slightly different. my friend who got a big win or maxxWin, he was not required to do anything because from the start there was no process to complete KYC, only deposits and withdrawals, but when he withdrew he experienced problems with his account being frozen by the casino, and he trying hard to get the big victory he has obtained. In the end he only got half of the winnings he had obtained, whether because the casino didn't want to lose or what, I can't say for sure.
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May 07, 2024, 09:35:55 AM |
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That's why it is important to explore the platform first befor you play and deposit in it to avoid the inconvenience and you could have the assurance that your funds will be safe, for instance if you can do KYC before deopsiting then its better, and its much better if you will comply with KYC first so that withdrawing money will not be a problem, but if you saw that the casino will require KYC before withdrawal then it will be so suspicious and from there you should be wary and will avoid that platform, I'm not saying that they are scam but the thing is it will cause some inconvenience for you if you will be instance that you cannot withdraw your funds or money or be locked up. Its important to be wise in this days because many people will make a way to take advantage to the other people.
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May 07, 2024, 09:47:30 AM |
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
No, I like gambling as anonymous as possible, if I can gamble without giving away any of my personal information I would do it, that being said, I don't just gamble at any casino that doesn't ask for KYC registering. When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
maybe the users who know who have broken the casino rules and know that they can't pass the KYC process, then yes, they should be afraid, as for people who know that they haven't broken any rule and can pass the KYC, they should be worried too much. Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
No, not really, the casino just simply forfeits the winnings since the gambler cannot fulfil the KYC that was requested and agreed upon when the gambler registered at the casino.
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May 07, 2024, 10:05:33 AM |
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I will wait until the casino asks me to do KYC. That's because I don't make large deposits and also never bet big money. So I guess the casinos are just waiting until I can win big money then they will ask me to do KYC.
Most users will be worried when asked to do KYC. They think that the process is just an ordinary process and they will still have difficulty withdrawing their winnings. But if they gamble at a trusted casino, they will not experience any difficulties after carrying out KYC. They can withdraw their winnings easily.
Casinos that withhold money from winners who are unwilling to perform KYC will take it as their profit. I don't know if this is money laundering or not, but it seems like that's what happened. Maybe you can ask each casino directly about this.
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May 07, 2024, 10:29:43 AM |
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
Normally before I always register on any gambling platforms, I usually do my kyc because I know its a money issue, which might warranty to agument on wining claims. So I totally avoid it from the beginning. When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
Users should not be afraid of getting a maximum win, but making sure they do the needful at the right time by doing kyc to avoid their fund being locked up .
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May 07, 2024, 10:39:02 AM |
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Some of these are just last ditch effort to prevent the gambler from taking his winnings. In my opinion, a casino that didn't ask for KYC when you were registering and when you deposited, shouldn't ask for KYC when you win a huge sum. Saying they're asking for KYC to prevent money laundering is just bs. If they really cared about preventing money laundering, they would have asked for KYC from the beginning. If the player had lost his money they wouldn't have care if he's a murder or terrorist.
A trusted Casino wouldn't give you issues when you want to withdraw your winnings. If the casino starts asking for ridiculous things then that's suspicious. Normally, the ask for the basic identification like drivers license, passport etc. Asking for difficult documents just shows fraudulent activities.
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May 07, 2024, 10:41:15 AM |
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With what you have said OP I think i will remain playing but with small amount of bets only each time so the chance of winning huge is very tin, and about KYC? i mostly play in government regulated site meaning i know that theywill ask for KYC in any chance sooner, but i have seen this kind of issue happening most of the time because after winning huge they are now in issues withdrawing because of this kind .
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May 07, 2024, 10:57:16 AM |
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~ When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win? ~
This made me laugh. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I've never heard of someone who's afraid of getting a Max Win. Getting a max win is the hardest bit, mate, and the KYC process, however tedious it might be, is incomparably easier. Actually I know what you are talking about, I've undergone several unbelievably complicated KYC processes on various sites, but I finally succeeded in each of them. And it wasn't because I won some big amount, let alone anything comparable to a max win, in some cases it were just $50 worth of altcoins. In short, I am not afraid of getting a max win. I'm asking the universe: "Let me get it, I can handle any KYC process, just give that max win!" ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 07, 2024, 11:34:14 AM |
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This made me laugh. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I've never heard of someone who's afraid of getting a Max Win. Getting a max win is the hardest bit, mate, and the KYC process, however tedious it might be, is incomparably easier. Actually I know what you are talking about, I've undergone several unbelievably complicated KYC processes on various sites, but I finally succeeded in each of them. And it wasn't because I won some big amount, let alone anything comparable to a max win, in some cases it were just $50 worth of altcoins. In short, I am not afraid of getting a max win. I'm asking the universe: "Let me get it, I can handle any KYC process, just give that max win!" ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yeah you're right it sounds funny, most individuals dream is to win very big from whether they gamble for fun or whatever reason, if people are afraid of getting a max win, should they rather be happy to get max losses, no I don't think so. There's this joy that comes with winning a jackpot because it's rare, especially when the saud individual who wins is a poor or an average one. Most casino sites especially Cryptocurrency casinos would require for KYC upon registration or after securing a mass win due to security reasons, therefore it's left so individuals to make sure they've got the required documents for KYC ready incase of situations like this. Yes some KYC process can be very frustrating but for security and transparency it is very important to avoid money laundry and fraudulent activities.
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May 07, 2024, 12:09:25 PM |
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
No, why would I want to do KYC if I am not required to do it or asked for it? I would love it if I can enjoy gambling and be able to make small deposits and withdrawals without having to provide any personal identification. Fortunately, so far, I have not manged to finish my gambling to withdraw anything. I do win but I will continue my gambling until nothing left in my bankroll. When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
Well, the possibility of that happening is usually not very high, so one shouldn't be worried about that, but a gambler needs to make sure they are gambling on a platform that doesn't cause a lot of trouble when it comes to matters like this. Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
I don't know if this can be considered money laundering or not but I know that they have the right to ask for any sort of verification and they have these things written in their terms and conditions, we just don't read them before we sign up so it's our mistake.
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May 07, 2024, 12:19:25 PM |
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That's why it is important to explore the platform first befor you play and deposit in it to avoid the inconvenience and you could have the assurance that your funds will be safe, for instance if you can do KYC before deopsiting then its better, and its much better if you will comply with KYC first so that withdrawing money will not be a problem, but if you saw that the casino will require KYC before withdrawal then it will be so suspicious and from there you should be wary and will avoid that platform, I'm not saying that they are scam but the thing is it will cause some inconvenience for you if you will be instance that you cannot withdraw your funds or money or be locked up. Its important to be wise in this days because many people will make a way to take advantage to the other people.
These are some of the things we gamblers do, we don't read rules on local or online casino before we gamble. However, I think the casinos are really trickish. From my opinion I think that before any casino that requires KYC before withdrawal, they should also ask for KYC before deposit. Lots of casinos are very good in attracting gamblers with the kind of games they and bonuses they offers, but it's only gamblers that doesn't have enough time to reads the teams and conditions of the casino that falls for it.
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Dickiy
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May 07, 2024, 12:51:47 PM |
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
Personally, I do KYC early before playing with even 1 cent, when I have read the casino rules, the safest option is to fulfill KYC. Moreover, because my type of gambling has always been in one casino for quite a long time, until now I have not experienced any serious problems regarding the problems that we often encounter from problematic users. When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win?
Of course I'm not afraid to complete it, but what always becomes an obstacle is that the process seems convoluted and even leads to accusations of fraud due to miscommunication between gamblers and casino support. Therefore, I always ensure that the deposit and withdrawal rules are fully understood, especially the maximum withdrawal limits. Casinos ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, but if the gambler isn't able to give the requested data then the casino keeps the money. If the casino keeps the money isn't that Money laundering?
In general this action is considered money laundering, but this does not mean that casinos keep gamblers money for no reason. Because the casino must enforce operational standards and ensure that the money they withhold from gamblers is in accordance with the rules that have been stated from the start.
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May 07, 2024, 01:06:21 PM |
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I just read all your answers guy, it's a hot topic and I really enjoy looking at your different points of view. This made me laugh. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I've never heard of someone who's afraid of getting a Max Win. Getting a max win is the hardest bit, mate, and the KYC process, however tedious it might be, is incomparably easier. Actually I know what you are talking about, I've undergone several unbelievably complicated KYC processes on various sites, but I finally succeeded in each of them. And it wasn't because I won some big amount, let alone anything comparable to a max win, in some cases it were just $50 worth of altcoins. In short, I am not afraid of getting a max win. I'm asking the universe: "Let me get it, I can handle any KYC process, just give that max win!" ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) This is part of the point here, sometimes the KYC process looks more like an excuse to hold the users' money, and sometimes casinos get to some absurd point like asking for the source of income, or rejecting user ID if is not the passport. From my point of view, sometimes this looks like searching for an excuse to not pay to the user.
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May 07, 2024, 01:27:08 PM |
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Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays. If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
If that is the casino that you're going to play with a huge amount of money, and if you trust the casino then doing a KYC before depositing and playing is a good idea, but that does not guarantee that they will not ask you again or they will not flag your account, if there's a violation then they can ask for a KYC again or ask to submit additional information. When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win? If the casino is reputable and has no record of withholding their winners' payout however huge it may be and you believe that you can pass KYC because you are complete with all the documents that they are going to ask for and most importantly your account is clean then you deserve your payout. If they refuse your payout you can post an accusation of scam here in Bitcointalk or ask casino review sites for mediation if they lose and they still hold your payout then they will mark the casino as a scam, and it will have a negative effect on their reputation.
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May 07, 2024, 01:44:29 PM |
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If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it?
Well, I'm just an average gambler, spending a small amount for gambling. That being said, KYC is not a priority because i'm not even certain if i'm going to win a decent amount when I play on the specific casino. IMO, as long as you're playing on a reputable site, then it's not an issue if you're not a verified player yet. Just make sure that you can provide the needed documents to confirm your identity to be able to withdraw your winnings (just incase) and you didn't cheat, then there's nothing to worry. But again, this is only applicable for reputable casino since they will not do a shady tactic just to hinder you to get your money.
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May 07, 2024, 02:01:55 PM |
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Most casinos nowadays don't let you do the KYC process until they request it, this means you will not get KYCed unless a lot of money or fraud is involved, but it would be nice if users could do the KYC process before deciding if to deposit or not. It's not the KYC it is the reputation of the casino that is in question, so before you think of doing KYC check the reputation of the casino first to be sure they do not have complaints related to KYC like asking their players to undergo KYC yet they still confiscate the funds. Well, this time i have 3 questions for the community, i want to see what people think about how gambling works nowadays.
If you could do KYC process before making a deposit, would you do it? After checking the reputation why not, I will have peace of mind knowing all is taken care of When a user wins a huge amount the real nightmare starts, the users have to complete the worst KYC process he will see in his life, so, should users be afraid of getting a Max Win? It's a big nightmare if the casino has a bad reputation and here you are wishing and hoping that you can cash out that huge amount it's an agony like what the complainants are undergoing.
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