Newbies...don't feel attacked by high rank members

[Sim_card]

I wrote the thread because I see that newbies are creating different threads complaining how they are being attacked by forum members.

Newbies should stop feeling attacked  by anyone when they are been corrected on mistakes that they make here, or when they create some kind of thread for merit sake, which some members believed that it is to farm merits. As a newbie, it is a norm that you guys will have no knowledge or little knowledge on bitcoin and the forum, and that is why when you come up with a thread or comment, high rank members will correct you.

Let the newbies not see this as a problem to them in order for them to learn on a free mind and grow gradually just as other members put their efforts and time to learn and grow in the forum. This forum is a place to learn a lot and there are experts in various boards here, so correcting you is not bad but to make sure that you don't spread wrong information that can mislead others here or even outside the forum. Almost everyone here in the forum with high ranks have been corrected when they were newbies too.

Newbies are not only being corrected but they are also being encouraged and being praised. This is why newbies need to take their time to learn by reading here and making researches to improve their knowledge in order for them to come up with quality contributions.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Feeling attack for a mistake that you made is kind of dumb, if you don't get corrected and you end up getting banned you'll say the forum is too harsh for their punishment so then why are you feeling attacked when you're getting the correction that you need to become a better forum user and also avoid banning. What you should be doing is taking the correction and keep a blind eye for any other information that won't add something positive to your staying here. We didn't all start from the high ranks, we were once newbies too and we got corrected and decided to take the correction then improve ourselves and it paid off.

Nobody owes you any way you feel you should be address and you need to learn to grow a tough skin on the internet because this is a different world altogether that people from different parts of the world are connected so you don't expect same treatment from everybody. We have trolls here and those that pour their personal problems on others. Some people will be harsh with their corrections while others might be calm but you have to learn how to cope with such situations because they all mean well for you. Take your correction and move on with your life, don't expect to be pampered.

[Awaklara]

everyone probably feels that. and correction gives us the motivation to correct mistakes and try to do better.
those who succeed in improving themselves will develop better. and one day they will realize why they were corrected by another member in perhaps an unpleasant way.

but there are still members who never learn from their mistakes. such as those who have been caught repeatedly in campaign cheating cases. they keep creating accounts and repeating the same mistakes.

[Z390]

If newbies are not corrected and they eventually get banned then it will look like an attack or the forum is just a harsh place to be.

Mind you, before using any forum you need to read their rules but Bitcoin talk is different, you have chances, members will correct you and I am sure the admins are watching, if you end up taking the correction then the forum is your home.
Feeling attack because of a mistake that you made is wrong, if not one corrects you it is also wrong, any newbie reading this should think about both sides, what will happen if all members of the forum decide to stop correcting newbies? Will newbies be able to do anything right on here? Most of them will end up getting banned.

So which one will feel more like an attack? Take corrections as a blessing on this forum, to progress, it is what newbies should be hoping for, someone who will point out their mistakes.



Z390

[I_Anime]

 
That's the reason is called learning, if there's no one to correct you are will one now learn from their mistakes. I know sometime most users way of correcting may not be In a nice way and all or may be in a form of criticising, but still what that matters is that they are still impacting the right thing to yah .

Honestly I felt that way at first, but when I started learning from others and my errors . I started to understand more about the cryptocurrencies and this forum , though am still learning but I can see some good improvement sofar.

What I will say is that , I know at first it may not be pretty as a newbie due to the kind of half-size knowledge they possess in this Crypto space. But still they just need to focus on the learning part and reduce the urge of posting for now , so that they can be able to post some nice contributing post that may help others in their phase of learning too, Because in this forum we are all learning from one another.

[Fara Chan]

Newbies should stop feeling attacked  by anyone when they are been corrected on mistakes that they make here, or when they create some kind of thread for merit sake, which some members believed that it is to farm merits. As a newbie, it is a norm that you guys will have no knowledge or little knowledge on bitcoin and the forum, and that is why when you come up with a thread or comment, high rank members will correct you.

Let the newbies not see this as a problem to them in order for them to learn on a free mind and grow gradually just as other members put their efforts and time to learn and grow in the forum. This forum is a place to learn a lot and there are experts in various boards here, so correcting you is not bad but to make sure that you don't spread wrong information that can mislead others here or even outside the forum. Almost everyone here in the forum with high ranks have been corrected when they were newbies too.

Newbies are not only being corrected but they are also being encouraged and being praised. This is why newbies need to take their time to learn by reading here and making researches to improve their knowledge in order for them to come up with quality contributions.

Hopefully there are many beginners who will read this and they will try to understand after absorbing what you say, because I have also come across beginners who complain about things like that and feel that they are being attacked by some people who already have high ranks. Even though the members who already have high ranks only try to provide the best thoughts they have experienced before to all beginners, even though those who receive the advice still think differently so there can be mistakes in understanding it.

[Davidvictorson]

It is absolutely normal for newbies to feel the way that they feel. I won't even dismiss or try to wash down that feeling that they are having of being attacked by other forum members as not significant. I have been a newbie and I have been there. As a matter of fact one of the legendary members put my account on ignore when I was a newbie and I only got to find out when my post quality started to improve and that legendary member mentioned that they are taking my account off ignore list because of improvements in my post quality. I will tell newbies to be patient. The longer you stay on this forum the better it become. It only gets better with time, you will see it.

[lovesmayfamilis]

OP, there's no point in creating threads like this over and over again. Are you now writing on behalf of all users who once decided to offend newcomers? Both online and offline, there have always been and will be people who are unable to do anything on their own, and there will always be weaklings who are constantly dissatisfied with something. To be more precise, we can say that in life, the fittest survive. So why convince new people every time that no one here is going to offend or insult them? This should be obvious to all normal people. We are on the Internet; there are people of different cultures and different traditions, and we are all different. If you react to everyone and demand respect from everyone, you can naturally develop a nervous breakdown. Let every newcomer ask himself why to respects him. For people to begin to respect someone, you need to prove this, since you and I see here and there every day different people who are ready to deceive. Therefore, trust is earned. And if the nervous system is weak, then these people have no place on the Internet.

[Taskford]

Newbies should stop feeling attacked  by anyone when they are been corrected on mistakes that they make here, or when they create some kind of thread for merit sake, which some members believed that it is to farm merits. As a newbie, it is a norm that you guys will have no knowledge or little knowledge on bitcoin and the forum, and that is why when you come up with a thread or comment, high rank members will correct you.

Let the newbies not see this as a problem to them in order for them to learn on a free mind and grow gradually just as other members put their efforts and time to learn and grow in the forum. This forum is a place to learn a lot and there are experts in various boards here, so correcting you is not bad but to make sure that you don't spread wrong information that can mislead others here or even outside the forum. Almost everyone here in the forum with high ranks have been corrected when they were newbies too.

Newbies are not only being corrected but they are also being encouraged and being praised. This is why newbies need to take their time to learn by reading here and making researches to improve their knowledge in order for them to come up with quality contributions.

Hopefully there are many beginners who will read this and they will try to understand after absorbing what you say, because I have also come across beginners who complain about things like that and feel that they are being attacked by some people who already have high ranks. Even though the members who already have high ranks only try to provide the best thoughts they have experienced before to all beginners, even though those who receive the advice still think differently so there can be mistakes in understanding it.

There are times that newbies start to doubt about their selves if they are still relevant since they experience to get corrected by seniors of this forum and start to lost interest because they don't want to experience the same situation happened to them. But if they act like that for sure there will no improvement will happen on their side and instead to mock on those people trying to correct them then much better if they start to figure out on where they commit a mistake and correct it. Since self improvement is important so they can develop good attitude and if they surrender early without trying to improve then provably they remain on where they are and for sure they regret in future about not taking good actions while there still a chance to do it or correct something so they can improve.

[1miau]

Definitely, most high-ranking members are always trying to be helpful and helping out is one important point of Bitcointalk.
Sometimes it might look a bit harsh, when mistakes are corrected but in general, the main point is always to have accurate information in the end and it's also helpful for Newbies to keep learning and established members are trying to do a good job here.
Being corrected is not bad it's part of a learning process.

And if you have question, please ask. There are no stupid questions if you are learning more about an issue in the end. 

[Miles2006]

Complains and comments like this kind is common, although aside the internet not everyone can even withstand harsh words so let’s say people in this category should avoid place like the internet and open space when everyone is allowed to talk freely. Honestly speaking, some words can be so annoying and hardly I view attack like insulting words except the newbie did something wrong because no member will attack any member without doing anything wrong. Advising and blaming any newbie feeling annoyed at this point is getting tiring, anyone who feel angry should put more effort and learn. No one is above correction and personally correction is needed or else members might end up spreading ideas that’s not even right.

[The Hidebehinder]

I've been a lurker for a year here, I know I'm just talking about the things I'm interested in and I sound like a broken record when opening topics and asking questions yet I haven't seen those attacks, isn't anyone getting way to sensitive about a discussion with pure strangers using a foreign language you're not completely accustomed to? My favorite reading topics are from the big movements periods and I have the feeling the forum is way more friendlier now if I judge it by the language used compared periods before 2017 and 2013.

[Essential10]

When the baby is born and he grows up small to large. As the child grows up many mistakes will be observed, his elder family members and close relatives will teach him how to talk, walk, how to eat. Surely the child is not taking wrong lessons from family members! Newcomers to the forum have to start somewhere, if you make a mistake it is normal for the higher ranking members to correct you. Even though the higher-ranking members talk seem bitter sometimes, they usually give the right suggestions, they are not your family members that they will treat you like your family members, you have to correct your mistakes. There are many new members who go through severe corrections when they make extreme mistakes, even though it is often through challenges and setbacks that they learn and grow the most. Definitely keep yourself in the mindset of learning, working hard and pushing yourself to be the best version of yourself. Today you learn from your superiors, tomorrow everyone will learn from you.

[Plaguedeath]

I don't understand what the types of attacking that the newbies keep complaining?

Real life is harder than online life, many people get bullied and discrimination because of their races, their skin colors, their appearances, their outfits, their wealth etc.

Is there a high rank member call someone Nigga?

Is there a high rank member say the poor shouldn't live?

Is there a high rank member isolate an atheist?

[Pmalek]

I've been a lurker for a year here, I know I'm just talking about the things I'm interested in and I sound like a broken record when opening topics and asking questions yet I haven't seen those attacks, isn't anyone getting way to sensitive about a discussion with pure strangers using a foreign language you're not completely accustomed to?

I don't see the attacks either. But I remember a topic in Meta a few months ago from a member who felt he was being bullied. Turns out that he considers it bullying if other members correct him and don't agree with what he says. The world has become too sensitive, and everyone is crying abuse, abuse to try and benefit somehow. Even after so many years here, I still make mistakes and have no problems when someone corrects me and points them out. It means they are paying attention.

[Distinctin]

Definitely, most high-ranking members are always trying to be helpful and helping out is one important point of Bitcointalk.
Sometimes it might look a bit harsh, when mistakes are corrected but in general, the main point is always to have accurate information in the end and it's also helpful for Newbies to keep learning and established members are trying to do a good job here.
Being corrected is not bad it's part of a learning process.

And if you have question, please ask. There are no stupid questions if you are learning more about an issue in the end.  

The forum is a place to learn and educate one another, so it’s normal to see highly knowledgeable members correcting those false information that newbies thought are actually right. It should not be perceived as a negative trait towards higher rank members simply because they aren’t correcting for no reason, but they want to purposely correct those mistakes in order for newbies to gain the right information and stop spreading the lies and misleading information. That way, these newbies will definitely learn from their mistakes, and they’ll be more encouraged to do what is right so that they can also help educating their co-members as well in the near future.

[GiftedMAN]

0p, I think the best thing you could do is to encourage that newbie to that feels that he or she is been attacked to get used to the forum or the person should stay away from the forum and social media entirely because you don't expect every body to like what you are doing or saying when you are new in a place but the best you could do is to keep doing your thing until you understand how the forum works.

I have come across few threads that was created by newbies to complain about how they are being attacked by the older members but am yet to see them come up with a proof showing what the older members said to them that was wrong other than what they ought to know. Op, if you have an evidence that shows how a newbie was attracted since you are speaking on behalf of them may be you should drop it here so that people can see and know what to do about it.

[SatoPrincess]

OP though your heart is in a good place, you’re only adding to the many topics created by newbies on this subject. How many threads are we going to have about this topic? The last thing I expect to see was a older member making a topic about it. You should ny now that those who complain about being attacked do not read threads or follow advice, if they did they would not make the mistakes that they are being attacked for. When I was a newbie, there were many topics created about plagiarism and still so many newbies were caught plagiarizing.

[AprilioMP]

I understand that someone who has the rank of Jr. Members felt he was attacked by a forum member who was higher than him. Too excessive in assessing something to become a quality of self is still low.
A beginner should make the topic about himself attacked by members of the high ranked forum understand the differences in how what is meant by correction with being attacked.
I also realize that all high -ranking forum members started with a beginner. But they come with the field of knowledge that is quoted when they understand what is allowed and what to avoid.

Hopefully the beginner who makes the topic follow and read all the posts made on this topic that he is too excessive in judging.
For example, I myself who joined here started from a beginner ranking. There is a process that I went through. Even then I only made a few posts with a lag of almost a week, even though I was almost online every day I did it when I was online was to learn how the forum members had discussions and looked for references from the discussion they discussed.
Not enough there, when I didn't understand, I ventured to ask questions.

Beginners will be taught by members of the high ranked forum by the beginner's way to set aside time to involve themselves. Do not know, please ask but in the unknown part.
This forum is a discussion room and for anyone is invited to maintain a good idea.

[nakamura12]

Newbies should think positive that being attacked as what they think it is not because people want to attack them but to correct them and to avoid making them do wrong things or decisions in the future. I can say this because I see some newbies before who didn't get help from high rank members got banned not too long before that newbie created an account in this forum. I do agree with others that this should be just posted on the thread that newbies created but there's a problem since people won't even read all the replies in the thread and that's why I think that OP created this thread.