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May 14, 2024, 10:31:07 AM
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Another amazing patch by PowerGlove, it's a good one by the way. I always thought that there should be something that may warn during consecutive posts and I guess now we have a good solution. I'm not sure that it's implemented or it isn't implemented yet but it's a quite useful patch.

This thing will work for WO thread as well or it's going to be disable on that thread? Because there are no such rules of having consecutive posting on that thread, and members of that thread don't mind to have consecutive posts either. However, I believe if something like this should be disabled on some threads.




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May 14, 2024, 07:26:05 PM
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the wo question is good.


as of yet not in effect > I will merge this. I am on a pc.

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May 14, 2024, 07:50:14 PM
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Good idea but by the way you could make a patch for the moderators to explain why they don't act on reports of rule 32 violations.
Enhh... Moderators are humans just like everyone else. In that case, they may choose to ignore a report based on what, where and for what purpose the reported post serves.

Gloves, as always has been very relentless on creating 'em patches; There's a particular sense of revival that's derived from the fact that we've got innovative heads in here still.

I wanna say this; Are the moderators going to adopt stricter measures for junk posts that violates the rule 32 now? Atleast there's been something more visible to remind anyone if they ever forget.

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August 02, 2024, 02:50:35 PM
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Bumping this one because I think it's worth adding. (I wouldn't have spent time working on it, otherwise.) Cheesy

I mean, I know it won't stop people from multi-posting, but, I think it'll likely attenuate it.

I was reading theymos' proposed welcome message [1], and this part jumped out at me:

Multi-posting: Do not post twice in a row in a topic. Instead, edit your old post.

The fact that multi-posting is one of the three rule violations theymos thought important enough to include in a welcome message suggests to me that this patch would add value (I'm not going to re-iterate my own rationale, that's already in the OP).

[1] Off-topic, but, I'm not sure why that welcome message was never implemented: typos aside (a missing period, "sucessful" -> "successful"), I think theymos nailed it. It's a great welcome message, FFS. I think sometimes the community shoots itself in the foot by nitpicking things to death. I mean, is that the absolutely most perfect welcome message? Probably not, but, I don't think I could do any better, and weighed against the ~6 years of new members that could have been reading that upon joining, instead of nothing at all, I mean, just, holy shit... talk about a stupid trade-off. Huh
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August 02, 2024, 03:01:48 PM
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[1] Off-topic, but, I'm not sure why that welcome message was never implemented: typos aside (a missing period, "sucessful" -> "successful"), I think theymos nailed it. It's a great welcome message, FFS.
Off topic too, this has been one of my biggest ticks of the last 2-3 years. A welcome message will save a lot of repeated topics from newbies who join asking about basic guidelines, it should also help retain more members who register. The forum is a lot different from what most people are used to, getting into it without some pointers can discourage a lot of members.

I think the delay may be less about perfection and more about reluctance to make changes on the current system.

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A welcome message will save a lot of repeated topics from newbies who join asking about basic guidelines, it should also help retain more members who register.
The welcome message is helpful and can help some newbies but now all of them.

Most of newbies will not read anything and continue to create topics to ask because you can see in the Beginners & Help board, there are 4 pinned threads. One of them is Newbies - Read before posting with different content and message than the Welcome message, but it contains many links to topics about forum basics.

If now, newbies does not read that thread, most of them will not read the Welcome message when it is deployed. I am pretty sure about it.

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August 02, 2024, 07:00:48 PM
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Most of newbies will not read anything and continue to create topics to ask
Then we'll know which threads to ignore and report.

Newbies now can and should get the benefit of the doubt that they don't know how to navigate to pinned threads and everything is very novel to them, plus they don't have any motivation to commit to this weird forum. But when there is a guarantee that they were giving a manual to cover the basics such noob threads will be shunned and should eventually stop being so common.

They should also get no replies anymore and crash down the topic list very quickly.

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~Snip
The welcome message is helpful and can help some newbies but now all of them.

Most of newbies will not read anything and continue to create topics to ask because you can see in the Beginners & Help board, there are 4 pinned threads. One of them is Newbies - Read before posting with different content and message than the Welcome message, but it contains many links to topics about forum basics.

If now, newbies does not read that thread, most of them will not read the Welcome message when it is deployed. I am pretty sure about it.
Although I can't guarantee that they aren't true newbie, some of them probably aren't. They try to open topics as a way to motivate themselves to get a lot of attention from forum users, some of them even really know that opening new topics is one way to get merit. Fishing for merit by opening a topic is a newbie's habit, but I don't generalize that all newbie are the same. So there is a motive why many newbies ignore some welcome topics or pinned topics.

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Going through the OP, I was impressed with the suggestion of some default message to warn users on posting habits like repeated posting within a thread but, it appears to take a turn I didn’t hope it would at PowerGlove. Your patches have been really helpful on the forum and even this proposal would prove really effective should it take a different direction.

We already have on the forum a default message that alerts you of a post to have been made while writing your text,
Now, this would be a second and could prolong having to make posts as should these events play out, users would just have too much red inked notes to read.

I am no programmer and I know the work you do isn’t one that comes with ease but, if it were possible that, you could put in place a script that would take cognizance of the last username and apply it in terms of a user having to click the post button, by some means run through the authorship of the command and match that with the previous poster for a match before prompting such warnings, it would be really good. I hope you understand what am trying to explain though.
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