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June 24, 2024, 01:37:45 PM
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^^ Lol, what he is trying to do? He can't removed it from our memories and there could be a lot of sites that have that video not just Youtube. So it seems it's really a desperate attempt on them side to forget but boxing fans won't.

And fans are going to troll him for that even after he retires from the sport. And this could be the first time that we here such out of this world request to removed all videos of his lost from Ryan Garcia. And it really make us fans think that he is not mentally prepared for Sandor Martin if he keeps on living with the Ryan Garcia lost.

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June 25, 2024, 01:40:02 AM
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Haney is so devastated that he wants people to forget the fight happen but I doubt people will forget it, the fight will hound him for the rest of his boxing career.
Garcia really put Haney where he belongs when he knock down his ass. Yep, he was so devastated that he wanted to get rid of all that bad memories. But Sandor Martin bullies him again, I don't see Haney coming back in this fight. It could be his worst decision to fight the Spaniard as he is a spoiler and it could be a bad style matchup for Haney. And then again, he is coming from a big lost so why they chooses him baffles me. Maybe Bill Haney thought that this is their ticket, but they could be wrong if his son again losses this one via knockout or him getting into the canvass again and judges giving Martin that win.

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June 25, 2024, 05:01:02 AM
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The Haney-Garcia was ruled a no-contest, and Haney is back as an undefeated champion again, but to everybody's surprise, Haney requested DAZN to remove the footage; he also requested YouTube to remove all footage about his losses, which IU doubt DAZN will grant as its one of the big money maker on YouTube with over 13 million views now and growing.
YouTube is unlikely to remove it as it is part of history that the fight happens regardless of what happened after the fight.

Haney is so devastated that he wants people to forget the fight happen but I doubt people will forget it, the fight will hound him for the rest of his boxing career.





Devin Haney is certainly more than devastated. His mind and heart has been very much destroyed! He has requested a champion on recess and cancelled the fight against Sandor Martin. Devin Haney will need more than 1 year vacation and an immediate rematch vs. King Ry if he wants his mind to return to normal. However, after the suspension and similar to what I have predicted before, there will be a rematch. There will be another knockout of Devin Haney by King Ry and there will be another dirty sample of urine from King Ry hehehehehehehe.

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June 25, 2024, 05:29:00 AM
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The Haney-Garcia was ruled a no-contest, and Haney is back as an undefeated champion again, but to everybody's surprise, Haney requested DAZN to remove the footage; he also requested YouTube to remove all footage about his losses, which IU doubt DAZN will grant as its one of the big money maker on YouTube with over 13 million views now and growing.
YouTube is unlikely to remove it as it is part of history that the fight happens regardless of what happened after the fight.

Haney is so devastated that he wants people to forget the fight happen but I doubt people will forget it, the fight will hound him for the rest of his boxing career.

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Devin Haney is certainly more than devastated. His mind and heart has been very much destroyed! He has requested a champion on recess and cancelled the fight against Sandor Martin. Devin Haney will need more than 1 year vacation and an immediate rematch vs. King Ry if he wants his mind to return to normal. However, after the suspension and similar to what I have predicted before, there will be a rematch. There will be another knockout of Devin Haney by King Ry and there will be another dirty sample of urine from King Ry hehehehehehehe.

Devin Haney is clearly devastated and i think he is not yet ready physically and mentally for a fight, if this Sandor Martin fight will push through, there is a big chance that he will be defeated as his focus right now is to regain that zero lose and erase the footage of his fight against Ryan hehe.

Great boxers like Manny Pacquaio recovers from a devastating lose against Juan Manuel Marquez and move forward as if nothing happens, this kind of mentality should ne instilled on the head of Haney as not all the time you will win in boxing. The measurement of greatness for me in boxing  is how you bounce back from a lose and not with a zero lose.

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June 25, 2024, 06:43:10 AM
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^^ Lol, what he is trying to do? He can't removed it from our memories and there could be a lot of sites that have that video not just Youtube. So it seems it's really a desperate attempt on them side to forget but boxing fans won't.

And fans are going to troll him for that even after he retires from the sport. And this could be the first time that we here such out of this world request to removed all videos of his lost from Ryan Garcia. And it really make us fans think that he is not mentally prepared for Sandor Martin if he keeps on living with the Ryan Garcia lost.

The more Haney cries like a b*tch, the more people becoming curious and are now watching the replays and the more Garcia taunts him. Garcia looks like he is more focused on becoming a social media star than becoming a champion in boxing and he is loving the drama and the trend happening now. I just checked Ryan's Instagram and he's got 12 million followers now. The last time I checked it was 10 million.

It's pretty clear that Haney is devastated. He just told the WBC that he is not fighting Sandor and he wants to take a break. Sandor will now fight Puello for the WBC belt.

And as expected, the corrupt WBC does not want to punish Ryan. Instead, it says that Ryan needs help and they are ready to help with open arms.

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June 25, 2024, 09:15:54 AM
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^^ Lol, what he is trying to do? He can't removed it from our memories and there could be a lot of sites that have that video not just Youtube. So it seems it's really a desperate attempt on them side to forget but boxing fans won't.

And fans are going to troll him for that even after he retires from the sport. And this could be the first time that we here such out of this world request to removed all videos of his lost from Ryan Garcia. And it really make us fans think that he is not mentally prepared for Sandor Martin if he keeps on living with the Ryan Garcia lost.

The more Haney cries like a b*tch, the more people becoming curious and are now watching the replays and the more Garcia taunts him. Garcia looks like he is more focused on becoming a social media star than becoming a champion in boxing and he is loving the drama and the trend happening now. I just checked Ryan's Instagram and he's got 12 million followers now. The last time I checked it was 10 million.

It's pretty clear that Haney is devastated. He just told the WBC that he is not fighting Sandor and he wants to take a break. Sandor will now fight Puello for the WBC belt.

And as expected, the corrupt WBC does not want to punish Ryan. Instead, it says that Ryan needs help and they are ready to help with open arms.

Well he has a full year to continue everything in social media, and so he is taking that advantage as he always posts image and that meme on Devin Haney hehe. Devin though is a cry baby and as what we are saying, the more he complains, the more the fans becoming to dislike him.

And Ryan Garcia winning the hearts of boxing fans, hehehe. He even had a poker game that I saw with Miami Heat's Jimmy Butler with million chips amongst them. So he is loving his lifestyle right now and all the attention that he is getting.

 
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June 26, 2024, 01:27:51 AM
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I guess this fight is no longer happening, as Devin Haney requested that WBC put him as "champion in recess", so it means he will not be defending his belt anymore and they elevated Puello as their champion and so he will be one going to fight Sandor Martin.

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Devin Haney has made his choice.

A ruling was made to downgrade the unbeaten two-division titlist to WBC ‘Champion in Recess’ at junior welterweight. Haney, No. 1 at 140, requested the move after he informed the sanctioning body he was unable to move forward with a mandatory to title defense versus Spain’s Sandor Martin.

https://www.ringtv.com/674610-devin-haney-named-champion-in-recess-wbc-orders-alberto-puello-sandor-martin/

 
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June 26, 2024, 01:52:46 AM
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^^ And according to that article, Haney will just received $1.5 million? That is a far cry from what he got from the Ryan fight, I don't have the numbers but it could be easy $10 million. So and with the mental damage that Garcia gave him, and now getting a measly just 10% of his previous earnings, perhaps that is the reason why he wanted to rest and so requesting the corrupt WBC and obviously they gave in because of the pressure.

So we need to update this thread to Puello vs Martin and I still think that Puello might be the slight favorite going into that fight. Just to bad for Haney to act like this, I mean he doesn't want to defend his belt as he is mandated. But then forced the WBC to declared him champion in recess.

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June 26, 2024, 08:27:34 AM
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^^ Lol, what he is trying to do? He can't removed it from our memories and there could be a lot of sites that have that video not just Youtube. So it seems it's really a desperate attempt on them side to forget but boxing fans won't.

And fans are going to troll him for that even after he retires from the sport. And this could be the first time that we here such out of this world request to removed all videos of his lost from Ryan Garcia. And it really make us fans think that he is not mentally prepared for Sandor Martin if he keeps on living with the Ryan Garcia lost.

Lol, I have already told that Haney can not cry as much as he can, do what ever he want, but he will always be remembered as beaten by Garcia. The more Haney excuses, the greater his loss looks. And the one who is winning from all excuses and hype is Garcia. Haney should either be silent, or do his best to have a rematch and next time prove that he is better.

I have already posted and everything is going exactly that way:

You know how this all will end? Does not matter if he was clean or not. Does not matter if he failed his weight. Does not matter if he won belts or not. Does not matter if he drink or smoke. Does not matter if he cheated or won unfair with judges help. All that is matters, that the world will remember him beating Haney. History does not remember losers. The fight has already happened, people saw his hand being raised. That is it. Nobody cares what is after the fight. What matters is what was during the fight.

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June 26, 2024, 11:05:06 AM
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^^ Lol, what he is trying to do? He can't removed it from our memories and there could be a lot of sites that have that video not just Youtube. So it seems it's really a desperate attempt on them side to forget but boxing fans won't.

And fans are going to troll him for that even after he retires from the sport. And this could be the first time that we here such out of this world request to removed all videos of his lost from Ryan Garcia. And it really make us fans think that he is not mentally prepared for Sandor Martin if he keeps on living with the Ryan Garcia lost.

Lol, I have already told that Haney can not cry as much as he can, do what ever he want, but he will always be remembered as beaten by Garcia. The more Haney excuses, the greater his loss looks. And the one who is winning from all excuses and hype is Garcia. Haney should either be silent, or do his best to have a rematch and next time prove that he is better.

I have already posted and everything is going exactly that way:

Right, I think almost all boxing fans knows that Ryan Garcia did take out the soul of Devin Haney, hehehe. It won't change a bit for us even if the fight turns into NC in his record, we all that he has been knock down 3x and he is not a cry baby because of all his request.

And now he wanted to be a champion in recess? Lol, it means he doesn't want to fight no more against Martin because he is worth very cheap, hehehe. And since he is mentally damage, his father should not forced him to fight as he might not be ready for Sandor Martin as the wounds is still fresh from that Garcia embarrassment.

 
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June 26, 2024, 01:24:38 PM
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I guess this fight is no longer happening, as Devin Haney requested that WBC put him as "champion in recess", so it means he will not be defending his belt anymore and they elevated Puello as their champion and so he will be one going to fight Sandor Martin.

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Devin Haney has made his choice.

A ruling was made to downgrade the unbeaten two-division titlist to WBC ‘Champion in Recess’ at junior welterweight. Haney, No. 1 at 140, requested the move after he informed the sanctioning body he was unable to move forward with a mandatory to title defense versus Spain’s Sandor Martin.

https://www.ringtv.com/674610-devin-haney-named-champion-in-recess-wbc-orders-alberto-puello-sandor-martin/

Haney was disappointed with the $2.4 million bid. It is a clear downgrade from his status as a former undisputed lightweight champion, and on his last fight where he received $30 million from the Garcia fight.
I read that DAZN wants him to fight Lian Paro

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“I don’t think it’s a bad fight for Liam Paro, and I will continue those conversations to fight Liam Paro in Australia,” said Hearn. “Right now, we’re planning a big homecoming for Liam Paro in Australia and I would like it to be Devin Haney. But can it be for a unification? Probably not. Will he vacate that [WBC] and fight for the IBF?”

Source: Eddie Hearn Proposes Devin Haney Vs. Liam Paro Fight In Australia - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/06/eddie-hearn-proposes-devin-haney-vs-liam-paro-fight-in-australia/)

Haney has limited options. He cannot also go into the welterweight division and challenge Ennis because that would be disastrous, he may take the Paro fight in Australia, but Paro's upset against Subriel is bad news for Haney; all of this happens to Haney because of his terrible loss to Ryan.

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June 27, 2024, 01:36:51 AM
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I guess this fight is no longer happening, as Devin Haney requested that WBC put him as "champion in recess", so it means he will not be defending his belt anymore and they elevated Puello as their champion and so he will be one going to fight Sandor Martin.

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Devin Haney has made his choice.

A ruling was made to downgrade the unbeaten two-division titlist to WBC ‘Champion in Recess’ at junior welterweight. Haney, No. 1 at 140, requested the move after he informed the sanctioning body he was unable to move forward with a mandatory to title defense versus Spain’s Sandor Martin.

https://www.ringtv.com/674610-devin-haney-named-champion-in-recess-wbc-orders-alberto-puello-sandor-martin/

Haney was disappointed with the $2.4 million bid. It is a clear downgrade from his status as a former undisputed lightweight champion, and on his last fight where he received $30 million from the Garcia fight.
I read that DAZN wants him to fight Lian Paro

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“I don’t think it’s a bad fight for Liam Paro, and I will continue those conversations to fight Liam Paro in Australia,” said Hearn. “Right now, we’re planning a big homecoming for Liam Paro in Australia and I would like it to be Devin Haney. But can it be for a unification? Probably not. Will he vacate that [WBC] and fight for the IBF?”

Source: Eddie Hearn Proposes Devin Haney Vs. Liam Paro Fight In Australia - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/06/eddie-hearn-proposes-devin-haney-vs-liam-paro-fight-in-australia/)

Haney has limited options. He cannot also go into the welterweight division and challenge Ennis because that would be disastrous, he may take the Paro fight in Australia, but Paro's upset against Subriel is bad news for Haney; all of this happens to Haney because of his terrible loss to Ryan.
So if this happens then it's another bypass of the interim champion, because the winner of Puello vs Martin will become the WBC interim champ. And if ever Haney comes back (as he is a champion in recess as per WBC), then the first order of the day should be him vs the winner of Puello vs Martin to just have one champion in their body.

And it Hearn proposes this fight then it doesn't make sense as there will be two champion in WBC. That's how fuck up this governing body is as what we have discussed, the most corrupt of them as compare to other body in boxing.

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June 27, 2024, 07:56:15 AM
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^^ And according to that article, Haney will just received $1.5 million? That is a far cry from what he got from the Ryan fight, I don't have the numbers but it could be easy $10 million. So and with the mental damage that Garcia gave him, and now getting a measly just 10% of his previous earnings, perhaps that is the reason why he wanted to rest and so requesting the corrupt WBC and obviously they gave in because of the pressure.

So we need to update this thread to Puello vs Martin and I still think that Puello might be the slight favorite going into that fight. Just to bad for Haney to act like this, I mean he doesn't want to defend his belt as he is mandated. But then forced the WBC to declared him champion in recess.

$10 million is possible but even if it is lower than that amount it should be at least $5 million. So somehow it makes sense to just rest after being physically and mentally destroyed by Ryan in exchange for the multi million dollars he received.

The WBC is always going for the money first. It already said that it is open to help Ryan Garcia which means Ryan might be able to fight outside New York and the WBC is still willing to sanction and rank him up in case he wins While at the same time putting Haney as a champion in recess.

I hope Sandor wins the belt. The guy was supposed to win over Teofimo and was always deprived of a title shot by the governing bodies.

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June 27, 2024, 11:38:38 AM
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^^ And according to that article, Haney will just received $1.5 million? That is a far cry from what he got from the Ryan fight, I don't have the numbers but it could be easy $10 million. So and with the mental damage that Garcia gave him, and now getting a measly just 10% of his previous earnings, perhaps that is the reason why he wanted to rest and so requesting the corrupt WBC and obviously they gave in because of the pressure.

So we need to update this thread to Puello vs Martin and I still think that Puello might be the slight favorite going into that fight. Just to bad for Haney to act like this, I mean he doesn't want to defend his belt as he is mandated. But then forced the WBC to declared him champion in recess.

$10 million is possible but even if it is lower than that amount it should be at least $5 million. So somehow it makes sense to just rest after being physically and mentally destroyed by Ryan in exchange for the multi million dollars he received.

Yes, that's a good excuse for Haney to just take a break it the money is not worth it against Sandor Martin. He is exhausted for sure as his fight with Ryan Garcia is still being discussed till this day by many boxing forums and fans around the world.

The WBC is always going for the money first. It already said that it is open to help Ryan Garcia which means Ryan might be able to fight outside New York and the WBC is still willing to sanction and rank him up in case he wins While at the same time putting Haney as a champion in recess.

I hope Sandor wins the belt. The guy was supposed to win over Teofimo and was always deprived of a title shot by the governing bodies.

Might be interesting what kind of help WBC is willing to give Ryan though. It is that they will allow him to fight outside of the decision of NYSAC? They said that they will abide by it and also suspend Ryan. So it seems that it's two fold for them and as long as they are going to make money out of the Ryan case, for sure they will allow him to fight outside I guess.

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So if this happens then it's another bypass of the interim champion, because the winner of Puello vs Martin will become the WBC interim champ. And if ever Haney comes back (as he is a champion in recess as per WBC), then the first order of the day should be him vs the winner of Puello vs Martin to just have one champion in their body.

And it Hearn proposes this fight then it doesn't make sense as there will be two champion in WBC. That's how fuck up this governing body is as what we have discussed, the most corrupt of them as compare to other body in boxing.
Any championship must only have one fighter who holds the champion title from each class, it can never have two title holders at once.
Things like this have happened several times and it is not surprising that the title holder cannot fight until there is title fight while waiting for the mandatory fight to fight for the actual title against the fighter who was the previous champion.

And in fact Haney asked to be placed as Champion in Recess, from all this it is clear that the WBC board also agreed or fulfilled Haney wishes, and in the future he will have full rights again so he can fight directly with the title holder.
From this we can conclude that Haney did not lose the title in full and currently Alberto Puello as the title holder can also lose the title at any time when there is fight for the title he holds.
But I think this is not important for Haney because the only thing he wants is to be able to have rematch with Ryan Garcia.

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June 28, 2024, 05:25:07 AM
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The Haney-Garcia was ruled a no-contest, and Haney is back as an undefeated champion again, but to everybody's surprise, Haney requested DAZN to remove the footage; he also requested YouTube to remove all footage about his losses, which IU doubt DAZN will grant as its one of the big money maker on YouTube with over 13 million views now and growing.
YouTube is unlikely to remove it as it is part of history that the fight happens regardless of what happened after the fight.

Haney is so devastated that he wants people to forget the fight happen but I doubt people will forget it, the fight will hound him for the rest of his boxing career.

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Devin Haney is certainly more than devastated. His mind and heart has been very much destroyed! He has requested a champion on recess and cancelled the fight against Sandor Martin. Devin Haney will need more than 1 year vacation and an immediate rematch vs. King Ry if he wants his mind to return to normal. However, after the suspension and similar to what I have predicted before, there will be a rematch. There will be another knockout of Devin Haney by King Ry and there will be another dirty sample of urine from King Ry hehehehehehehe.

Devin Haney is clearly devastated and i think he is not yet ready physically and mentally for a fight, if this Sandor Martin fight will push through, there is a big chance that he will be defeated as his focus right now is to regain that zero lose and erase the footage of his fight against Ryan hehe.

Great boxers like Manny Pacquaio recovers from a devastating lose against Juan Manuel Marquez and move forward as if nothing happens, this kind of mentality should ne instilled on the head of Haney as not all the time you will win in boxing. The measurement of greatness for me in boxing  is how you bounce back from a lose and not with a zero lose.

Yes, if there is a word that is more worse than devastated, this is Devin Haney. This should be his new fighting name hehehe. Devin the Devastated Haney heheheeh. He might never return to his confident self because you know why? I speculate that he has also used steroids! All of these athletes use steroids.

On Pacman, he has a very mature mind. I read articles about his hardships in his country. I reckon that this will certainly cause a strong mind to develop in a person. If he did not become a boxer, we can be quite certain he will be successful in another chosen career.

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June 28, 2024, 10:00:13 AM
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The Haney-Garcia was ruled a no-contest, and Haney is back as an undefeated champion again, but to everybody's surprise, Haney requested DAZN to remove the footage; he also requested YouTube to remove all footage about his losses, which IU doubt DAZN will grant as its one of the big money maker on YouTube with over 13 million views now and growing.
YouTube is unlikely to remove it as it is part of history that the fight happens regardless of what happened after the fight.

Haney is so devastated that he wants people to forget the fight happen but I doubt people will forget it, the fight will hound him for the rest of his boxing career.

~snip~

Devin Haney is certainly more than devastated. His mind and heart has been very much destroyed! He has requested a champion on recess and cancelled the fight against Sandor Martin. Devin Haney will need more than 1 year vacation and an immediate rematch vs. King Ry if he wants his mind to return to normal. However, after the suspension and similar to what I have predicted before, there will be a rematch. There will be another knockout of Devin Haney by King Ry and there will be another dirty sample of urine from King Ry hehehehehehehe.

Devin Haney is clearly devastated and i think he is not yet ready physically and mentally for a fight, if this Sandor Martin fight will push through, there is a big chance that he will be defeated as his focus right now is to regain that zero lose and erase the footage of his fight against Ryan hehe.

Great boxers like Manny Pacquaio recovers from a devastating lose against Juan Manuel Marquez and move forward as if nothing happens, this kind of mentality should ne instilled on the head of Haney as not all the time you will win in boxing. The measurement of greatness for me in boxing  is how you bounce back from a lose and not with a zero lose.

Yes, if there is a word that is more worse than devastated, this is Devin Haney. This should be his new fighting name hehehe. Devin the Devastated Haney heheheeh. He might never return to his confident self because you know why? I speculate that he has also used steroids! All of these athletes use steroids.

On Pacman, he has a very mature mind. I read articles about his hardships in his country. I reckon that this will certainly cause a strong mind to develop in a person. If he did not become a boxer, we can be quite certain he will be successful in another chosen career.

Very hard to compare the mindset of Manny, yeah, he came from hardship and so he has to really work hard and then follow his dreams. Unlike this American boxer who are always spoon feed that when they lost, they can't take it as a man and now he wanted to take a leave of absence and declare him to be champion in recess, Lol.

And it just shows how brutal this sports is, I mean you have been a champion and enjoying successes until you got that one lost that you can't get over with and you will do everything so that it will be erased from your memory. But it's not going to happen as boxing fans knows what kind of personality Devin Haney has

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June 28, 2024, 12:22:32 PM
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And here is what Eddie Hearn says about him not bidding on this supposedly fight that made Devin Haney furious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onNmdz9WuFY

Go to 4:20, and the interviewer has a good question, to simply put, Haney didn't ask Hearn if his company is going to bid in that fight. And he also confirms that Haney doesn't have a longer contract with him. And with that, he is not willing to put big money on that fight as they are not align according to him.

This interview is prior to Haney requesting WBC to be champion in recess if I'm not mistaken.

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So if this happens then it's another bypass of the interim champion, because the winner of Puello vs Martin will become the WBC interim champ. And if ever Haney comes back (as he is a champion in recess as per WBC), then the first order of the day should be him vs the winner of Puello vs Martin to just have one champion in their body.

And it Hearn proposes this fight then it doesn't make sense as there will be two champion in WBC. That's how fuck up this governing body is as what we have discussed, the most corrupt of them as compare to other body in boxing.

It all messed up now for Haney, he is not training anymore for this fight he is busier suing Ryan Garcia and trying to fix his lost reputation and wounded ego, he requested DAZN to remove his fight against Haney which DAZN declined and now he is pushing and requesting YouTube to take out which I doubt will comply.
I guess he will need Agent J's Laser of Men In Black for people to forget what happened between him and Ryan  Cheesy


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It all messed up now for Haney, he is not training anymore for this fight he is busier suing Ryan Garcia and trying to fix his lost reputation and wounded ego, he requested DAZN to remove his fight against Haney which DAZN declined and now he is pushing and requesting YouTube to take out which I doubt will comply.
He doesn't need to get involved with that as he has an upcoming fight to prepare for. He can sue because he has the right, but the longer this issue is talked about by the fans, the more it will only result in decreasing the value of Haney. Worst of all, if he does not seriously train and ends up losing, then there would be no point in what he did to keep his undefeated record by suing Ryan Garcia. This fight will test if he is still mentally tough despite what happened, and for those who believe that Haney was really affected, I think it's worth the risk to bet against him.

I guess he will need Agent J's Laser of Men In Black for people to forget what happened between him and Ryan  Cheesy
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