Making a long post is not the ultimate

[Onyeeze]

Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post, a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...people deviates from their area of concentration when they make a long post and sometimes their point will be pointless because of much mistakes ....its better for you to make a few lines of post that's meaningful than making 20 paragraphs with pointless narrative.

We need to Understood that we need to work together more to build sustaineble society.
What's more countries like africa/latin America or eastern europe it makes harder for many people life there becouse a lot people only goal will be to get out If poverty and when they are lucky or work up themselfes they will be greedy and always insecure it's not becouse they are bad persons it's mostly becouse from the early age they saw that everybody Are they own goverment don't care and society is hard.....so it will be in their Memory and when they get rich they make sure they always want to be sure they have surplus not less and good buffer zone of wealth to make sure they never need to starve again they sceptical to contribute to society because they know they need to be careful with their money once it's gone nobody not gona help them and goverment not about social AID. So that's why the wages are low becouse the fear of company owners If they give out too much they might be poor themselfes
That's all wrong becouse it will make people selfish moves only that's not gona improve the society as whole the balanced perfect way should be that goverment will be strong on background and everybody want to innovate grow and improve in everything not just chasing money and thinking about to have enough so atleast they never fall again back to poverty.
But people need to Understood that we need work together and it's about more sharing then just collecting wealth and stay scared that what creates corruption stress crime and society where nobody can't be sure what happens tommorow and enough money never enough becouse most of people chasing money too and you always need to be catious your own goverment or business partners might want to cheat you or take from you ... don't make mistake they might be not bad people just that from the early Age they experinced starving and poverty and no goverment support ...so it's in their Memory now that they must be rich and not give out anything....well goverment support don't mean only money the goverments can support many ways like give free access to education and learning courses.
If those countries the africa latin america or eastern Europe countries the balcans like albania or former soviet union countries want to be strong as society and go forward in life then they should stop this old way of thinking " screw everything" " be strong" " me me i need more more" and so.
The good balance of society is goverment support and help with innovation and with funds and workers earn wages that they can also enjoy the life Also untfortunately USA and Canada start to remaind to people that latin america, africa and old soviet countries mindset the goverments falling down and not improve.
The good life balance and respect in society towards everybody are in switzerland.
And If people don't change that old way of thinking nothing gets better that's why people with money they make money in those countries and leave becouse they don't want to live in society where everybody only chasing the money and try to take it from others all the ways as possible in other words it's not normal and not healthy just to live in survival mode everyday.
That's why a lot people Going to Dubai so they feel there more like one it's a human nature to be united and working together not just thinking everyday how to survive If you leave money on the side yes people in Dubai are wealthy but also a lot great people with good nature and good hearts you might be good heart person with innovative and good mindset but If you are surrounded with people who try to make only money to have more than others then it's a fake society.
The humans are not meant to be alone but working in unity and getting rewarded by their merits to society.
Covid 19 was good example how bad it will be in isolation without others we are social by our nature as humans.
So off course everybody work for themselfes you don't need to share all but the rule is Simple you should give if you want to receive
And we never end conflicts and wars by thinking same ways our souls not die and after we nuke ourselfes again and again we recarniate again all over on the planet earth to learn again and If we don't learn we born all over again until we learn that how to live in respectful ways.
Just because bad history and wrong actions of our parents and previous political people we don't need to define ourselfes but need to change outselfes.
Look Even the russian oligarcsh like berezwsky abramovich....why they left their countries? They wamted to live in London UK in Western countries, why? Becouse they have money and wealth they got sick and tired of focus on everyday to wealth and money and dealing with envy of others who not interested about them as people or persons but mostly about their money.
Rich and wealthy are Also sick of this money money...for wealthy and rich the wealth is just something elementary to feel good and enjoy the life that's why they seeks the societies where nobody dont even talk about money the money is just there and it's not about status symbol or show off it's just to make feel good and live your life as normal human ...that's why we see endless conflicts social chaos corruption
wars in latin america africa and some eastern europe balcan countries becouse people live by survival mode it will kill slowly their health also that way.

I have to say i Went italy and france....i was amazed how relax and slow everything was there people knew how to enjoy life and money is not reason to rush.

I'm not criticising you but rather to correct you, most of this user topic is elongated and you can't comprehend exactly what the point is navigating to, the main reason this forum is established is to learn from others and it doesn't mean that your composition will be that long before readers will understand your point.

[Hazink]

If you can hit a keyword and get straight to the point on a particular topic, what's the point of stressing things? 
 
The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it. At the beginning, most of the long text might have meaning, but the more you read it, the more confused you get about what the person is saying.

[Nheer]

Quality beats quantity anytime… Some people think that the length of a post is what gives it quality but the most important thing is to convey your message in a way that people would understand, doesn’t necessarily have to be very long. Most people on the forum don’t like the idea of too long post and they barely have enough time to spend reading one post.

Most long post are left unread because it seem like a waste of time especially when it seems boring from the start, talking too much will deviate you from the target point making a post lose it’s value so it’s better to hit the nail on the head rather than running around the bush. Also the construction of a post, the spacing and grammatical structure also helps to attract readers making tempting to read but length is not major factor that attracts readers.

[stompix]

Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post, a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...people deviates from their area of concentration when they make a long post and sometimes their point will be pointless because of much mistakes ....its better for you to make a few lines of post that's meaningful than making 20 paragraphs with pointless narrative.

You do realize you're making the same mistake right?
Writing a phone paragraph repeating the same idea 3 times when you could have made it in only one line sentence?

The more you write, sometimes it complicates things without the author even realising it.

Definitely, all books should have just one line, "and they lived happily after" because that's what matters, the outcome, right?
Or even better why use words, a meme should do!

POlo/waldorf/fullbear and his alts might be a moron and his text garbage but generalizing like this is bad.

[Lucius]

@Onyeeze, what you have shown is a classic example of a spammer who obviously has too much time for such long posts, or maybe AI helps him in that. In terms of writing style, it seems to me that he is just one of a series of alt accounts that spam the Economics board with "life philosophies" that I personally find painful to read. I personally do not participate in any discussion he initiates, and I would advise others to refrain from it.

However, it should not be concluded that all long posts are bad, on the contrary - I like to read long posts from members who have already proven themselves as extremely high-quality posters - but I also give a chance to every other member. Unfortunately, too many such posts coming from beginners turned out to be AI content, maybe only slightly modified to try to avoid detection.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Yeah and youre doing it too. Lmao long post is fine as long as it has a good content and has interesting topic. A wall of text is the one Im not reading unless it is systematically arrange by the poster. Its quite long to read and boring to scan.

Its better to have shorter version and concise sentences.

[Porfirii]

@Onyeeze, what you have shown is a classic example of a spammer who obviously has too much time for such long posts, or maybe AI helps him in that. In terms of writing style, it seems to me that he is just one of a series of alt accounts that spam the Economics board with "life philosophies" that I personally find painful to read. I personally do not participate in any discussion he initiates, and I would advise others to refrain from it.

However, it should not be concluded that all long posts are bad, on the contrary - I like to read long posts from members who have already proven themselves as extremely high-quality posters - but I also give a chance to every other member. Unfortunately, too many such posts coming from beginners turned out to be AI content, maybe only slightly modified to try to avoid detection.

The problem is that you realise that the post is not worth the time reading it after you lost too much time reading it

I feel that I miss relevant information because, after many disappointments of the style, I skip such large posts just in case, unless it is written by a well-known user. It's not fair because even newbies can have interesting things to say, but that's the cost for efficiency: we cannot read everything.

[SatoPrincess]

A lengthy post does not equal quality and will not increase your chances of getting merits. In fact, when readers see a wall of text they instantly skip the post. The only engagement you are likely to get on your post is users advising you to make your post shorter and straight to the point.  I’m not saying this is the same for all lengthy posts, you can make a lengthy post pleasant to read by using paragraphs and being on topic.

[Amphenomenon]

However, it should not be concluded that all long posts are bad, on the contrary - I like to read long posts from members who have already proven themselves as extremely high-quality posters - but I also give a chance to every other member. Unfortunately, too many such posts coming from beginners turned out to be AI content, maybe only slightly modified to try to avoid detection.

This is from the fact that most lack the knowledge and fail to see this but one to be like these top forum members making long posts notably JJG while forgetting knowledge is gotten from learning.

Another notably thing aside from sometimes bad grammatical structure are the wall of text some of them continue to write even after much correction, they still stick with being ignorant of it and then sometimes speak of making quality posts that are not being merited whereas these their posts are not encouraging read.

[moneystery]

a quality post is a post that conveys its points effectively, not a long post that just goes around in circles and it's not clear what point is being conveyed. because many newbies think that they need to make quality posts, so they make long posts with the intention that it is a quality post, even though it is just a waste of time because the points they convey are too long-winded to the point that people are lazy to read it.

[Razmirraz]

The quality of a post is not judged by how long you write it, sometimes the contents of long-winded posts without any selling value will look mediocre even though they are written at length. The post that you quote on the topic will make the eyes of the people who read it feel tired due to not creating several paragraphs that make the appearance more appealing to the eye. Whenever and wherever, quality will be more valuable than quantity. Posts that are written only a few lines but have informational and educational values for anyone who reads them will be of higher quality than posts written like sites that contain football news which are written from the first minute until the match is over.

[Davidvictorson]

I have noticed that that user usually your likes a long wall of text. I do not think that it is a problem as there are people who may have the time to read and make their comments on it while they are others who do not like to read a long wall of text so they ignore it.. Depending on the individual, one may choose to reply or one may choose to ignore it.   As long as the op is not something against the forum rules I don't have any problem with it.

[Fiatless]

Sometimes posts made by some of our people is confusing when reading the post, just want to emphasize on this because I know that long posts doesn't guarantee a quality post, but make your post to be understanding to the user, I know that necessity of people making a long post is because they needed a merit but that doesn't show a quality post, a quality post is a post that carries formative post not to be long without a good information or educate people of what they suppose know...people deviates from their area of concentration when they make a long post and sometimes their point will be pointless because of much mistakes ....its better for you to make a few lines of post that's meaningful than making 20 paragraphs with pointless narrative.

The problem is not the post's length but its content and organisation. Some posts should be long because they contain some information that needs to be explained. Others need to be brief because there is no need to elaborate on something that should be simply explained. Another very important factor in writing is how you organise your facts in sentences and paragraphs. This will enable readers to easily read and comprehend the writing. Generally, the length of the post doesn't determine the quality. A long or short thread could be a quality post, it all depends on the organisation and relevance.  

The belief that long post usually give more merits is false. I have seen post with few sentences attracting many merit because they information is relevant at that time. Meanwhile there are some posts with many paragraphs that don't even get one merit. Some people might not be writing many lines for merits but they thought that how the post should be.

[Felicity_Tide]

I'm not criticising you but rather to correct you, most of this user topic is elongated and you can't comprehend exactly what the point is navigating to, the main reason this forum is established is to learn from others and it doesn't mean that your composition will be that long before readers will understand your point.

Of course, you haven't done anything wrong by pointing this out. This is basically an issue that really needs to be address. When we come across some certain post, they are three things that determines if we are going to read it or not. One is the topic title, two is the length, and the third is the structure.

In my few years of writing, topic title and structure are what captivate readers. When a topic lacks meaning or is not well structured just like the one you quoted above, then won't attract much interest even when it's short.

I will add further. An important key to writing a good post is simply readability and understanding . If a post can not be read and processed by anyone, then there is no value in it. Which is why, I try to read my own write up, process it and understand before sharing it to the general public. Like you said, the length of a post does not matter, but the ability for readers to grab the key information makes it a quality post.

[Skfox]

We are all here to learn, taking corrections should also be part of learning. When you are being corrected and then you take correction, you will see yourself growing even without you knowing. Sometimes you may not see the impact of the correction at that time but you will later realize it the best to be taken.

In my opinion, lengthy post sometimes discourages many to read even when you may love reading, your post may be a quality one but due to the length many will see it stressing to read to the end.
This is a correction which should be taken and then try to readjust, it is also important to we newbies too to learn from this correction.

[GiftedMAN]

The only engagement you are likely to get on your post is users advising you to make your post shorter and straight to the point.  I’m not saying this is the same for all lengthy posts, you can make a lengthy post pleasant to read by using paragraphs and being on topic.

This is exactly what I advised the user with the lengthy post that Onyeeze is talking about before seeing the post of Onyeeze about the user, it took me time to understand what the op was saying not until I was able to read everything he wrote before I understood the information he was trying to pass across. Of course there are so many lengthy posts I have come across here in the forum but the way the post was arranged made it very easy to read and just like what you have said, the columns and paragraphs was used where necessary making the write-ups to be easily readable and comprehensive. Not everyone is a good English speaker but I believe being active here has made a lot of people to improve in writing I believe people are still learning also.

[Cookdata]

I don't have problem with a long post but when your post lact composure and ingredients, then it becomes boring to read, it discourage people from trying to know more what you have in your content but if you are good writer, people will want to know the dip content of the message you are trying to pass.

This Fullbear guy, I don't know his motivation for long thread but no offense, I don't bother to engage in some of his thread, they are too wordy and it always lack punctuations where necessary and he never makes paragraph a priority, this thing discourage a lot of people and that's why you see that most often, the thread don't get passed 3 page, instead of people to even quote his original OP, they prefer to engage other comments after the OP original posts.

[tranthidung]

It is very basic in writing. Keep it short and succinct enough to express your idea. Enough means don't write something too short that fails to convey your ideas but not too long to make your post becomes messy.

• Bitcointalk posting etiquette
• Guide of theymos on writing in the welcome message. I quote his guide on it.

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.

[Findingnemo]

How long the post could be depends on various factors and in certain cases wall of text is needed for a better and clearer explanation of what we try to convey to the users such as guides and Tutorials about something indeed long and will take a few minutes to read the process and understand.

But how to do it is something that they need to know and there are some guides like [GUIDE] A good post/reply and formatting [UPDATED] can help user to post the long posts in better format.

When I see something that's a completely big wall of text then I don't bother read at all.

[knowngunman]

@Onyeeze, what you have shown is a classic example of a spammer who obviously has too much time for such long posts, or maybe AI helps him in that. In terms of writing style, it seems to me that he is just one of a series of alt accounts that spam the Economics board with "life philosophies" that I personally find painful to read. I personally do not participate in any discussion he initiates, and I would advise others to refrain from it.

However, it should not be concluded that all long posts are bad, on the contrary - I like to read long posts from members who have already proven themselves as extremely high-quality posters - but I also give a chance to every other member. Unfortunately, too many such posts coming from beginners turned out to be AI content, maybe only slightly modified to try to avoid detection.

I thought as much initially but reading through the first paragraph which I couldn't even finish due to comprehension, I discovered that this is not from AI or any writing tools. If it is Ai content then the poster temper with it more than necessary and render it useless. English is not our mother tongue and as such, not everyone can be fluent in it but at least let consider the readers and try as much as possible to make it understandable.

Long and informative posts are interesting to read to the extent you won't like it to end but some long posts are so boring to read and hard to comprehend just like the example sighted in the Op post. There's no grammar compliance or usage of punctuations. It's not worth reading when you try to avoid Ai content detection and make the whole content meaningless to the readers. You're at disadvantage because you'll be ignored and you won't have the merit you are chasing. It cost nothing to be original and unique.