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May 17, 2024, 08:25:51 PM |
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Okay, we've probably all seen so-called Facebook or Telegram groups offering great returns and promising information on fixed matches. I always believed they're scams and still do, up to a degree, of course. Money doesn't grow on trees, but something really stood out to me this time. A friend of mine reached out to me, not in any attempt to lure me into this; he wasn't aware that I'm also involved in sports betting and that he's in a Facebook group of approximately 100 users, where the "administrator" is distributing money on certain matches of completely unknown teams in India, Guatemala, Pakistan, or other countries, with odds usually higher than 1.7 to 1.8.
The only catch is that they have to a share portion of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets. I was dumbfounded to see that there were plenty of wins, with bets even surpassing 2.0 odds and doubling your money. However, he told me that it was risky because it could potentially end up having his account banned, and he is microbetting smaller amounts of €5–€10 in other random matches, so it appears that he also has a few losses.
To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
I have heard or see for those people who are looking for those gamblers or someone who do have an account on a particular platform and would be giving out that capital and they are the ones who do make out some bets for them. I dont know on whats the criteria for this one considering that it would really be that a huge risks for someone who would really be tending to share up his balance to bet in behalf of him. In regarding about the bet selection then iit would really be in accordance with someones choice but if it turns out that the winning rate is high then it would be normal that it comes up into your mind that those matches would really be that something fixed. If the platform itself do notice out something like this considering that they dont want for those users who do always win then this is the only risks i could see that they would be locking up someones account but well it would really be just that depending on the situation because if it would really be that so damn shady if they would be locking up the account because it does have that good winning rate. As for personal view, if it turns out that you are making money with those shared profits then its better not to complain at all since you arent making use of your own funds in the first place.
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May 17, 2024, 08:38:41 PM |
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To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
There was someone posting fixed matches here that I was observing before but his thread was deleted if I remember correctly. I think he's posted 2 or 3 "predictions" and all of them were correct. I was planning to follow the next one but no post followed. I don't know if he's also banned or not.
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May 17, 2024, 08:41:51 PM |
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Even if I wanted to know what admin is really doing to turn this idea for him to profit, I wouldn't stick around to wait and get invited to that group. It has more red flags than the May Day parade. If it's laundering like how you suspect what the admin is doing, then you're going to be held liable when shit hits the fan. But if you are already in the group, it could be too late. You might as well just bet using your own money outside of that bookie. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 17, 2024, 09:03:49 PM |
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Okay, we've probably all seen so-called Facebook or Telegram groups offering great returns and promising information on fixed matches. I always believed they're scams and still do, up to a degree, of course. Money doesn't grow on trees, but something really stood out to me this time. A friend of mine reached out to me, not in any attempt to lure me into this; he wasn't aware that I'm also involved in sports betting and that he's in a Facebook group of approximately 100 users, where the "administrator" is distributing money on certain matches of completely unknown teams in India, Guatemala, Pakistan, or other countries, with odds usually higher than 1.7 to 1.8.
The only catch is that they have to a share portion of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets. I was dumbfounded to see that there were plenty of wins, with bets even surpassing 2.0 odds and doubling your money. However, he told me that it was risky because it could potentially end up having his account banned, and he is microbetting smaller amounts of €5–€10 in other random matches, so it appears that he also has a few losses.
To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
Fixed matches in 3rd world countries is very possible but I don't think anyone ever really create a facebook group team and add some random internet strangers and share such a sensitive info with them. Matches that are fixed include players, coaches, sometimes the owners of both teams and this is done very secretly because if info about them gets leaked and there is a proof that match was fixed, they'll end up in prison for years. Don't trust those who tell you that they know fixed matches, that won't happen, they just know sports well and make bets very often and show you only the lucky tickets. If I watch football 24/7, I might make good sports bet and 7 out of 10 might be correct ticket but that doesn't mean I have access to fixed matches. Just forget it.
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May 17, 2024, 09:26:58 PM |
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- snip - The only catch is that they have to a share portion of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets. I was dumbfounded to see that there were plenty of wins, with bets even surpassing 2.0 odds and doubling your money. However, he told me that it was risky because it could potentially end up having his account banned, and he is microbetting smaller amounts of €5–€10 in other random matches, so it appears that he also has a few losses.
To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
Yeah the group like that is exist, but now they cannot carry out this abuse on a massive scale because casinos/sportsbooks systems have also become more sophisticated. Usually they do this on illegal local sportsbooks that never ask for a KYC. Need a recommendation from someone in that group to be able to join them. Also, every new member must deposit some money, to make sure nobody will disappear after receiving the money to place a bet on a certain match. Each member of the group must also prepare a bank account with different names for the deposit purpose. Because once the acc get banned, the name of the bank account owner will be immediately blacklisted and share with other platforms.
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May 17, 2024, 09:29:40 PM |
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Not actually a group but friends of friends. So it's like yours with a network of people that they're just sharing the tips.
To be honest, if they've got good calls and real signals about matches, the admin and its friends or relatives should just make themselves rich by doing it.
But he understands that the risk is there and not every call will be a win so, it's better to get some portion from the money that he won't be risking if they win from the members that do understand the risk.
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May 17, 2024, 10:38:39 PM |
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To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
I've heard of these groups and this is not a new thing in gambling industry. In most instances, this idea is not working but if you happened to get into one which does, then that's good for you. I'd say no matter how good the odds are, don't go all in. Gambling is still gambling therefore risk will always be there. You'd come to a point that you will be willing to bet as much as you can because in most instaances, their predictions are good but this instance should be avoided. I don't really believe that ll of the game or matches signal are fixed. It's more acceptable to think that admins of this groups are just good with predictions. Not all matches could be fixed as I believe. If they will claim all of the games are, then that would be a lie. I never also wanted to be included in these groups simply because it can also increase my drive to gamble and that's something I wouldn't want to happen; I just want to enjoy gambling as is regardless if I'm losing.
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I just heard about this last night, but in a different way, signals in trading. I was also surprised that it does happen but the person who is doing it is not the real owner of the scheme. He is just being used and being paid in small amounts. All he has to do is follow the instructions of the owner and monitor it until there's an exit point. Signals are real but these are only for whales.
About the signals in small leagues, I think they are real too. Fixed matches or they already know what team will win that game because of the difference in talent in skills. Still, I would not join such things because it lacks the excitement part and it feels like I am cheating. I'd rather do p2p bet while watching a local league.
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May 17, 2024, 10:45:48 PM |
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To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
I haven't seen groups like this before, but I remember a guy here in the forum who posted a thread(not sure what happened to it, I can't find it, it probably got deleted) about offering fix matches but in return, he gets 50%(I am not if it is 50% or lower) of the winnings, I don't remember if the guy is the one going to provide the money with the bets or the person who took his offer. anyway, I don't haven't tried or even thought about of joining groups like this.
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May 17, 2024, 10:47:34 PM |
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I hope that the people who are participating in this group of fixed matches will be wiser and leave the group because fixed matches are prohibited and from what I have read these fixed matches are considered crimes Criminal Charges
Match fixing carries criminal punishment for both the bettor or sports book that arranged the fixing as well as any players that are in on the act. Punishments vary from country to country, however any individual found guilty of fixing a sporting event runs the risk of receiving stiff criminal punishments ranging from severe fines to imprisonment. source: https://www.sportsrec.com/consequences-match-fixing-8094396.htmlIn third world countries like my country, people who are caught betting on fixed matches are arrested and I believe that in many countries things work that way, which is why in my opinion it's not worth getting involved in things like that. like, firstly because it is a crime, secondly because the person will be banned from betting shops, thirdly because people from these groups should not be trusted, it could be that someone from the group reports it to the police and then the police reward the person who reported it and arrest everyone of the group
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May 17, 2024, 10:49:25 PM |
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I have had and seen some of such groups before, and after some investigations, I noticed that most of them really do share some good matches, but not all the time. The majority of them are just sharing some old games, and sometimes they share already-played games with some edited slips in order to lure in members to place bets on their games. Some actually do share games they believe they will play, but they are not ready to take the risk. That's why they offer it to someone they believe can. Some are not just about the money they want to earn from those who place bets on their predicted matches that they are after; sometimes, in some of the groups I have seen, the administrator also offers the registration link to the site that they claim has the highest odds and urges the members to register and place their bets there so that they can also get some affiliate benefits.
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Man!, this is so easy, deposit, go to the football section, select the match where you want to bet and that's it, this is really like that,Then, why the people get so complicated with things like joining groups like those mentioneds(OP), and In reality for a few dollars, fair play corresponds to both parties, do not be part of those ecosystems, stay away, make an honest bet.
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May 17, 2024, 10:54:41 PM |
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In the early days that I was introduced to sports betting, I had a run-in with several fixed matches groups like the one OP mentioned. On one of those occasions, there's one the admin gave us one of such fixed matches for free citing that it is "Free for confidence" and subsequent games will need to be paid for. What's surprising is that the free fixed game came out right. The right result. The right score. After proceeding to collaborate with a friend to afford the buy-in fees, subsequent bets all lost.
My perception about fixed matches is that the ones advertised on Facebook are fake and if there are fixed match at all, it won't get shared in a Facebook group.
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May 17, 2024, 10:55:33 PM |
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Imagine the admin shared $100 each to members to gamble with. And the odd of the game was 1.7 odds. They gambled and won $170 each They share the profit 50/50 each, which is $85 Which means the admin probably would have lost $15 per individual. (I.e imagine you brought $100, and you got paid back $85). It literally doesn't make any sense.
The profit is $70, they split and get $35 each and the user returns the admin the initial amount, it's not like he's giving away free money, they just lend you the money to bet. The intentional losses are made by my friend himself; it's not an instruction from the so-called group. He'll bet on the Greek Super League, for instance, or some other completely random match, such as Liverpool vs. Everton.
This won't work long, bookies have a ton of also running on their website, they will pretty soon catch upon users that suddenly out of the blue bet on 3rd league match and win then switch to a country they've never bet before and again throw a profit, they have hundreds of queries running on the bets and highlights out of ordinary stuff, especially if your winning and not losing. You can stay a bit under the radar if you go and bet on one fixed match in the 3rd league in Panama or god knows what while at the same time taking another complete gamble on another match in that league but hoping from country to country for just 1 match and winning bet will instantly trigger flags
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May 17, 2024, 11:08:54 PM |
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There's good reason many sites don't feature matches from let's say Africa. When the stakes are very low and players are paid very little compared to international standards, it's very probable that the teams or even individual players will engage in match fixing. And in today's sports gambling, there's markets for everything, even who gets a red card, which an individual player can fix very easily even on his own. So instead of offering a sub-par experience to players with bad odds and restricted markets, many bookies will opt to never feature an entire league at all.
Of course match fixing has been alleged for bigger well paid leagues too and even the NBA. But in these cases on the rare occasion it happens, it gets discovered and followed by strict action. Maybe there's more that we don't know but at least from what I understand it's not anything crazy that could be happening as these leagues seem very competitive.
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May 18, 2024, 01:45:40 AM |
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To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
I agree with your observation that many Facebook or Telegram groups that lure individuals with promises of huge profits through fixed match information turn out to be scams. While some may attract attention, it's best to be careful. The statement by your friend who is part of a Facebook group with around 100 members that the organizers provide money for betting on certain matches does sound intriguing. Additionally, the odds offered usually range from 1.7 to 1.8 with big wins. But the need to share profits with group admins and face potential account bans highlights significant weaknesses and risks that require attention. Personally, I have never found this group, nor have any intention of joining it. While there are benefits to be had, the risks and possibility of fraud don't dispel my doubts. My rule of thumb is to act cautiously and stay away from schemes that seem too good to be true.
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May 18, 2024, 06:17:50 AM |
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I haven't seen groups like this before, but I remember a guy here in the forum who posted a thread(not sure what happened to it, I can't find it, it probably got deleted) about offering fix matches but in return, he gets 50%(I am not if it is 50% or lower) of the winnings, I don't remember if the guy is the one going to provide the money with the bets or the person who took his offer. anyway, I don't haven't tried or even thought about of joining groups like this.
That's interesting, another user also mentioned it previously, I'm guessing the thread is deleted and the user is already banned. There's good reason many sites don't feature matches from let's say Africa. When the stakes are very low and players are paid very little compared to international standards, it's very probable that the teams or even individual players will engage in match fixing. And in today's sports gambling, there's markets for everything, even who gets a red card, which an individual player can fix very easily even on his own. So instead of offering a sub-par experience to players with bad odds and restricted markets, many bookies will opt to never feature an entire league at all.
Of course match fixing has been alleged for bigger well paid leagues too and even the NBA. But in these cases on the rare occasion it happens, it gets discovered and followed by strict action. Maybe there's more that we don't know but at least from what I understand it's not anything crazy that could be happening as these leagues seem very competitive.
This was my main question: which websites feature these matches? I was surprised that there were sites such as Novibet or Bwin, major casinos, that ask for KYC and have your personal details on hand. My question was if such matches were featured in cryptocurrency casinos found here, such as Rollbit, Stake, Roobet, etc., in which it would be easier to hide and avoid KYC, up to some degree at least. I hope that the people who are participating in this group of fixed matches will be wiser and leave the group because fixed matches are prohibited and from what I have read these fixed matches are considered crimes
In third world countries like my country, people who are caught betting on fixed matches are arrested and I believe that in many countries things work that way, which is why in my opinion it's not worth getting involved in things like that. like, firstly because it is a crime, secondly because the person will be banned from betting shops, thirdly because people from these groups should not be trusted, it could be that someone from the group reports it to the police and then the police reward the person who reported it and arrest everyone of the group
To be honest, I highly doubt that it's going to get that out of hand to be faced with criminal charges. Although I understand it's illegal, I believe that it's too exaggerated from the side of the gambler, the administrator could is way more likely to get in trouble. Generally, it's best to avoid such situations where it sounds too good to be true.
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May 18, 2024, 06:34:36 AM |
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Okay, we've probably all seen so-called Facebook or Telegram groups offering great returns and promising information on fixed matches. I always believed they're scams and still do, up to a degree, of course. Money doesn't grow on trees, but something really stood out to me this time. A friend of mine reached out to me, not in any attempt to lure me into this; he wasn't aware that I'm also involved in sports betting and that he's in a Facebook group of approximately 100 users, where the "administrator" is distributing money on certain matches of completely unknown teams in India, Guatemala, Pakistan, or other countries, with odds usually higher than 1.7 to 1.8.
The only catch is that they have to a share portion of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets. I was dumbfounded to see that there were plenty of wins, with bets even surpassing 2.0 odds and doubling your money. However, he told me that it was risky because it could potentially end up having his account banned, and he is microbetting smaller amounts of €5–€10 in other random matches, so it appears that he also has a few losses.
To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
Those groups exist, as it is way easier to fix matches of relatively unknown teams and leagues, since criminals can just intimidate a few people and get what they want, however in order to hide their activities from casinos they need hundreds of people to make those bets. So using groups on social media seems like an obvious step to recruit people, still your friend needs to be careful, because I am sure those are very dangerous people and you should never invite them to your life no matter how tempting their offer could be.
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This is the most legit way of having an info on the fixed match because you are given money to bet and you'll just getting shared with the winning. No risk on your side, unless you got caught for this illegal activity. Other people are offering it differently, they want you to subscribe to their group and you'll have to pay just to get a fixed matches info, those are so called outright scams.
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I don't think so, most of them are scammer may be 95%+ . Don't believe on those scammers groups, I have seen lots of telegram group and channel that they are giving free betting signals and as well as also the trading signals but the most interesting things is their followers or members are high amounts but those are hidden. But they are continuously showing that their customers reviews that the user are getting profit from their signal here I noticed that there is no way to see or give them negative feedback they just bought the members. So I have no doubt about they are scammers. So always be aware of these and don't get into trap
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