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May 20, 2024, 03:25:19 PM
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To be honest, there is only one logical explanation to those kinds of groups in which I can think of from the top of my head. That is likely a money laundering scheme.
The administrator is part of a criminal syndicate or something, that way he manages to know the results of the fixed matches. Since they criminal organizations is earning money from it (and probably from other illegal activities) it is likely they have found out giving money to people and guiding them to bet in exchange for a slice of the money is a clever idea to hide the origin of the money if you think about it.

The money is given to the people though an on-chain transaction, then the people deposit the money onto the casino, since they are relatively small amounts the casino does not get triggered by those deposits. The people bet on the fixed game and take the money out again for them and for the administrator, the dinisntrator ends up receiving money which is completely untethered to the original tokens he used to pay the gamblers. After all the process is finished, the money launderers have thousands of dollars which can be deposited in an exchange without being linked to a tainted address, those stayed in the casino.

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May 20, 2024, 03:33:46 PM
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First, if you haven't tried it directly then the wins you get in that group are still a possibility or luck. Information about matches being fixed isn't open information and is easily spread to the public. I've a friend who has an acquaintance who's a match fixer in a tier 3 football league. In fact, my friend couldn't get that information, because it was exclusive information that was only given to bookies.

Whatever it's about signals, never believe it, it's about luck and a little analysis skill that the admin gives you, simply if they (admins) have accurate information, they don't have to make signals because they can enrich themselves.
No, I haven't, but I saw myself in the bets, the teams, and all the details, along with the win amounts. It was a handful of bets, and I find it hard to believe that it's all luck, especially if you see some scores, such as 0–7 in Tier C football in Guatemala or India. I'd be willing to try it for a short period of time for the sake of the community and report back; however, I don't want to risk my own money, of course. I'm not claiming that this is legit, and even if it yields money, it might be a well-run scam that slowly builds trust in an attempt to lure you into making a huge bet that's going to be a flop.

Until you try it directly and explain the experience, I'll never believe the Telegram or Facebook groups you're referring to. The basic reason is from my experience of gambling on football since high school and joining many betting signal groups, but none of them are truly legit, back to the words that I think make the most sense as to why they're a scam are "simply if they ( admins) have accurate information, they don't have to make signals because they can enrich themselves".
Many of these signals are based on chance of luck. It is just like winning today and losing tomorrow that is why one has to be very careful how we become so confidence about the signal bets we are getting and how much risk we are taking. If you want to make money from football signal group, it is better we go for free groups we can join and make some quick profit rather than trying hard for join expensive groups that would be demanding money for all bets. We need to understand what bet we are betting on and the level of the risk we need to take so that we don't have to keep losing money for nothing from bad signal bets.

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May 20, 2024, 03:37:06 PM
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To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
In the huge world of gambling, these kinds of groups exist exclusively, and information or access to them will not be easy to get. Fixed matches are not common, but they must exist, not only in third-world countries.

I will not be interested in joining these kinds of groups; I may become too dependent on them. It will remove the fun from sports betting and make me focus too much on strictly making money.
Your reason are same as mine, that's why many find it hard to join sporting bets that predict more of bets for them because they will end up being carried away to being dependent on them for strictly making money, which they will be scammed someday, or lose a large sum of money because they will be tempting to bet hugely on a particular bet given to them since we humans are natural greedy when we involved ourselves with money that we didn't stress to get

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May 20, 2024, 03:51:52 PM
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I tried to be in a group of signals but of sports betting, where it was pure scams, it was where supposedly a woman who was previously a referee, she handled privileged information about football matches, and that they promised to win a lot of money and that she made the bets and that I earned a lot, from there I got a lot of money and that was very good, but then I saw that the original woman was on her networks saying that they do not trust some people who pretended to be her so that they could scam money, so then I don't trust them anymore in group, they have tried to scam me many times, that's why I don't trust them for those things.
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May 20, 2024, 08:08:31 PM
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Well, I have joined in a lot of fixed match groups both on Facebook and telegram, and for some, even on WhatsApp, but I've never come across any group where the admin of that group is the one distributing the money the members of that group us for betting on the fixed matches provided by the admin himself.
And I am sorry to say but this is hard to believe, I mean that I can't believe this to be true until I see and possible join this particular group myself.

And to the above, I would like to ask you why you have not joined the group?, atleast, you should tell your friend to give you the link to join the group, then join and confirm things for yourself, that is, be sure that your friend told you about this group is the truth, and possibly, try it out and tell us your own personal experience and not what your friend told you.
To be honest, it sounds too good to be true, and I'd prefer not to get involved in something scammy. I talked to my friend on Friday and said I could possibly join, but he advised against it because of my limited knowledge of sports betting. I do know some stuff, but it's mostly limited to my country's Super League for now, and I decided not to push it just yet. I was also afraid that it might work in a few cases and become greedy, until eventually it doesn't and gets screwed off, which is why I have avoided it so far. I was to see him today, but due to some personal issues, I couldn't; otherwise, I'd try to obtain more information and perhaps an invitation.

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May 20, 2024, 10:28:34 PM
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I have only come across similar terms like this but not on the line that the entity would fund you to do the bets.
I am only experienced on the side that an entity in the social media who claims to have a sure bet demanding an agreement that if you will be giving the game to play, you will give them their percentage after winning.
Sometimes they would ask you to stake the game with a particular amount so that the winning value can be higher because the strategy is the higher the winning value is the higher the percentage the gets in return.

But one thing is sure that they are pure scammers because they only authorizes winning post to be displayed to the public view just to attract more more.
Meanwhile... Each participants is inboxed privately with different predictions strategically to avoid public disrupts arguing about their partialities.

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May 20, 2024, 10:41:42 PM
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I tried to be in a group of signals but of sports betting, where it was pure scams, it was where supposedly a woman who was previously a referee, she handled privileged information about football matches, and that they promised to win a lot of money and that she made the bets and that I earned a lot, from there I got a lot of money and that was very good, but then I saw that the original woman was on her networks saying that they do not trust some people who pretended to be her so that they could scam money, so then I don't trust them anymore in group, they have tried to scam me many times, that's why I don't trust them for those things.
If anything i would say am even suprised to see that such group are actually legit and active in the first place because from my experience I believe all the once I have seen are all scam and they all have this particular way of their organization although yours that was legit might be different but for the ones I have encountered you probably have to pay the person offering the service some pay up cash at front before he then offers you the game and from what I know they can give different prediction to different person and later on post on their channel only the one that actually worked out.

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May 20, 2024, 10:56:55 PM
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To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
You could have confirmed his words by joining the group to experience things for yourself to be sure if these things are true as he speaks. What amuses me is that the administrator of the group has to give each group member the money to use for his bet to later get back a percentage after the bets are won. That admin must be a good businessman  Kiss

I am aware about  these unpopular leagues competitions getting regular fix matches but still they don't get that easy to find  and a lot of so-called scammers uses this medium to extort lazy gamblers that are after cheap means of getting sport bet wins. Getting the right source to info about fixed match is 1/10, because of the consequences that can follow with if discovered.
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May 20, 2024, 11:17:16 PM
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Okay, we've probably all seen so-called Facebook or Telegram groups offering great returns and promising information on fixed matches. I always believed they're scams and still do, up to a degree, of course. Money doesn't grow on trees, but something really stood out to me this time. A friend of mine reached out to me, not in any attempt to lure me into this; he wasn't aware that I'm also involved in sports betting and that he's in a Facebook group of approximately 100 users, where the "administrator" is distributing money on certain matches of completely unknown teams in India, Guatemala, Pakistan, or other countries, with odds usually higher than 1.7 to 1.8.

The only catch is that they have to a share portion of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets. I was dumbfounded to see that there were plenty of wins, with bets even surpassing 2.0 odds and doubling your money. However, he told me that it was risky because it could potentially end up having his account banned, and he is microbetting smaller amounts of €5–€10 in other random matches, so it appears that he also has a few losses.

To be honest, I've heard of many signals or fixed matches, but nothing like this. Have you ever heard of such groups before, and have you ever tried joining one?
While starting to gamble I have joined several groups that offers some fee tips but most of those free tips are not more than 2,3 odds and if any of those free tips are up to 50 odds that means the bets have a higher chance of loss. It's shocking that those telegram groups that offers booking codes have a section for their VIP customers and even those VIP games are not guaranteed.
Some of these groups are scam and there are a lot of gamblers that are lazy to make their own predictions that's falling for those traps.

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May 21, 2024, 08:59:04 AM
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I wonder where that admin gets the signals from because if the signals he shares are 100% correct and work all the time, I'm sure he has connections with boards that are holding tournaments or has connections with those who are fixing those matches because it is not possible for someone random to be able to guess that many correct outcomes and for them to have such knowledge if it's true.

You are right that it is too good to be true because the ones who are getting those signals from the admin can make a lot of money from them just like how your friend is doing it. Have accounts in multiple platforms and make bets with different amounts in each platform if you are sure that you are going to win the bet, this can make one rich in no time but I doubt it will work in the long run.

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May 21, 2024, 09:19:00 AM
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The only catch is that they have to a share portion of the earnings with the group's administrator, who is basically giving you the money to make the bets.

This is something that could be considered as red flag, because this only means that they want to use your identity to place a bet on their behalf. Most probably, the casino requires KYC verifications If I'm not mistaken.
If they are truly involved in a fixed matches, then they will literally need other people to get involved than risking themselves getting caught doing it personally.
The only thing we need to remember, if someone wants to use our account, our identity on any platform, that means a red flag because these people are trying to use you to either do illegal stuff that they don't want to get themselves involved into or they are trying to abuse the TOS of that specific platform.
This for sure will entice a lot of people to let the other people use their identity as they can get a portion of the winning.
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May 21, 2024, 12:17:47 PM
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You could have confirmed his words by joining the group to experience things for yourself to be sure if these things are true as he speaks. What amuses me is that the administrator of the group has to give each group member the money to use for his bet to later get back a percentage after the bets are won. That admin must be a good businessman  Kiss

I am aware about  these unpopular leagues competitions getting regular fix matches but still they don't get that easy to find  and a lot of so-called scammers uses this medium to extort lazy gamblers that are after cheap means of getting sport bet wins. Getting the right source to info about fixed match is 1/10, because of the consequences that can follow with if discovered.
I'm in the process of trying to join; I just haven't had the time to meet up with my friend due to different work schedules. I'm also amused by that, and he even told me that there were a few rare instances where the users took the betting money and left the group. I still can't be 100% certain about all this if I don't see it with my own eyes. In terms of consequences now, I do have my doubts. I mean, in such countries, authorities are often non-existent. Who's going to bother with a few fixed matches? In the worst-case scenario, the casino starts banning users and potentially matches from such countries.
This is something that could be considered as red flag, because this only means that they want to use your identity to place a bet on their behalf. Most probably, the casino requires KYC verifications If I'm not mistaken.
If they are truly involved in a fixed matches, then they will literally need other people to get involved than risking themselves getting caught doing it personally.
The only thing we need to remember, if someone wants to use our account, our identity on any platform, that means a red flag because these people are trying to use you to either do illegal stuff that they don't want to get themselves involved into or they are trying to abuse the TOS of that specific platform.
This for sure will entice a lot of people to let the other people use their identity as they can get a portion of the winning.
Certainly, it's you who's appearing to be gambling, and these casinos have all your personal details, things can easily take a turn for the worst. The so-called administrator is unlikely to face any trouble because h's likely to be using an account with fake details, while it could also be a way to launder money.

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May 22, 2024, 05:52:11 AM
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You could have confirmed his words by joining the group to experience things for yourself to be sure if these things are true as he speaks. What amuses me is that the administrator of the group has to give each group member the money to use for his bet to later get back a percentage after the bets are won. That admin must be a good businessman  Kiss

I am aware about  these unpopular leagues competitions getting regular fix matches but still they don't get that easy to find  and a lot of so-called scammers uses this medium to extort lazy gamblers that are after cheap means of getting sport bet wins. Getting the right source to info about fixed match is 1/10, because of the consequences that can follow with if discovered.
I'm in the process of trying to join; I just haven't had the time to meet up with my friend due to different work schedules. I'm also amused by that, and he even told me that there were a few rare instances where the users took the betting money and left the group. I still can't be 100% certain about all this if I don't see it with my own eyes. In terms of consequences now, I do have my doubts.
While you join you have to tread with caution don't rest on the words of your friend. It takes smart people to know how to deal with these platforms which is why some users that join do exit with the money after a one time trial that worked well for them, and they might be doing that out of a bad experience from other similar platforms.

 
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I mean, in such countries, authorities are often non-existent. Who's going to bother with a few fixed matches? In the worst-case scenario, the casino starts banning users and potentially matches from such countries.
Weak systems create room for corrupt practices even under the nose of the said authorities because they do have a stake in those corrupt acts sonthey just sit back and do nothing. Any renowned casino that values their reputation and is submissive to fairness will never want to have anything to do with such matches in their platform, except for those that are
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May 22, 2024, 06:31:05 AM
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First, Match fixing exist. Especially in very low leagues of countries outside Europe. I believe it's also done in European leagues but it has to be on way lower divisions because there are no much eyes there.
Secondly, 99.9% of people that claim to have fixed matches for selling or for free are liers. When a match is fixed, they don't make that information public, it stays within a small circle of all those involved, so for you to have that information you're either part of that circle or have a source that gives you that information.
That particular guy may be among the 0.01% that have a legit source of fixed matches.

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May 24, 2024, 10:26:45 AM
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First, Match fixing exist. Especially in very low leagues of countries outside Europe. I believe it's also done in European leagues but it has to be on way lower divisions because there are no much eyes there.
Secondly, 99.9% of people that claim to have fixed matches for selling or for free are liers. When a match is fixed, they don't make that information public, it stays within a small circle of all those involved, so for you to have that information you're either part of that circle or have a source that gives you that information.
That particular guy may be among the 0.01% that have a legit source of fixed matches.
And even if the person that made those claims is in fact part of that circle of people, why would anyone want to have any relationship with them? After all they will have to be criminals that are either intimidating or bribing coaches, referees and players, and you do not want to be around those people as you will not know when they could decide to victimize you instead.

While on the other hand if those people were lying then you are dealing with a scammer, so regardless of the scenario in place you are the one that suffers at the end.
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May 24, 2024, 07:44:03 PM
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I still haven't gotten together with my friend to gain more information about the group. However, I tried reaching out to him today about it, and he told me that the group's administrator gave me the exact scores to bet on a specific match, which yielded great results, as you can also see from the screenshot below. Is this luck, a coincidence, or actually insider information? Who knows? It's definitely intriguing, though. I'll try to get to the bottom of this and report back as soon as I have more information, hopefully soon.


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Fixed matches can occur everywhere in the world. With lower divisions that gets very little attention it's easier to determine the entire outcome of the matches but as it gets more popular the chances are from soon to zero so they switch to determining other stats of the match, number of yellow cards, fouls and corners, which player will get a yellow and so on.

The risk is much higher for professional players, but for semi professionals, they have more to potentially gain than lose.

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I saw my friend a few days ago and asked him again regarding this Facebook group. Unfortunately, it's the summer now, and there are no available matches anymore. I wanted to see if such matches are available at cryptocurrency casinos such as Stake or Rollbit. My friend claims he managed to make a reasonable sum of money through these bets and also told me that the group's manager has inside information from some locals in these countries and that he pays a quite large amount of money to receive this information.

The money was distributed through Revolut, something that sparkled with me because they have all your details, including your tax identification number, unless they're using someone else's details. Who knows? I'll try joining again in the upcoming league, although that's quite far from now, and perhaps see what this is all about.

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Yeah a lot of this type fixed matches are in here in my place especially in cock fighting that is why you should be vigilant and double check if it really is a legit match because if you fall victim in one of these then you just wasted your money.

On the other hand, there are a lot of spammers online sending messages randomly asking if we are willing to make money with their strategy but I just ignored them mostly they're from Telegram, Facebook and in text messages from random contact numbers too. I don't even bother clicking links they sent as it could be malicious links or phishing links. Yeah I am in a third world country and this modus is quite common here so I just blocked them immediately. Maybe they are offering the same fixed matches thing but I am not interested on it since I am afraid if things will be compromised.



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June 08, 2024, 04:31:05 PM
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Of course we often comment that gambling is based on luck. However the undeniable fact is that as from that it doesn't fully depend on luck. Winning and losing are things that benefits either the gambler in question or the casino. A casino will eventually shut down if their customers are winning more than they can fund , and like wise they will also shutdown sooner if no one is able to hit their wins. Therefore both have to be balanced evenly to avoid either the gamblers or the casino running into consecutive losses.

Many a time I have come across discussions where people are of the opinion that some huge casinos partner with teams before games to be able to predict a majority of the most important aspects of the game thus putting them on a safer side.  I am however not sure how true it is but I think if possible it would be more common in friendly games than more serious games and matches.

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