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May 20, 2024, 12:05:37 PM
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Those who want to be deceived by religion will be deceived. As for me, I hardly accept or believe in the wrong ideology of all these pastors who preach about how their members will be given to the church, not about how their members will grow financially.

Someone will hardly go to the church year to year, to listen to business ideas or get introduced to any business. What they will hear most in the church is how to give and be rich and expect God to open doors of blessings for that, without them knowing that God will bless the work of thy hands so long as the person is not lazy or doesn't kill. God is not a partial God, he blesses and reward who he wants to without minding whether the person is a Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or traditionalist.
I come from a society that's very religious to the point that most  people could even believe their religious leaders over their doctors on health matters you could see people praying to get healing when they're supposed to visit the hospital for checkups, they allow those false prophets feed on their ignorance, and of course they end up paying huge sums of money to false prophets for healing and deliverance.

 Nowadays, in my society religion is now a means of looting peoples funds due to false teachings by bad actors who claim to be called by God, they would never advice people on business or helping them grow financially but they'll mislead them on certain things by telling ignorant Church goers to sow seeds and tithes to get blessings from God, some people instead of working hard to expand their business or investing more on it would gather the little they've earned and give to so called pastors for prayers.
It's in African Christendom you will get to see most of the things you talked about happen. You will see a Christian believes, fears, and respects their pastor like a demigod. Any word that comes out from their pastor is final, they stick their faith and beliefs in that. Whatever happens thereafter will taken as God's will and purpose for his children.

That's why the Bible says in Hosea 4:6.
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My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou has rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, thou shall be no priest to me: seeing thou has forgotten the law of God, I will also forget thy children

What surprises me is that people still fall for their wrong teachings till this point, someone would even go to the point of causing commotion amongst peaceful families, for instance telling a member that their parents or a family member are the reason why they're poor or not doing well in their business and still ask them to sow the little they have for God to bless them or for spiritual cleansing. This have been going on and many people have been victims to this especially innocent women who take their spirituality seriously, i think more awareness should be created to put an end to those false teachings by prophets that misleads people from investing in themselves, business and deceive them to sow seeds and forcefully pay tithes for their selfish interests.
Create an awareness of how church members are being misled by all these false prophets, you will see how you will be attacked by the same people you want to save and open their eyes to the reality of they have been misled by some church pastors, it time for them to think out of the box that, heaven helps those who help themselves. It is not everything that needs prayer, there are things one should do on their own like taking the proper medication, going to a hospital when an urgent matter arises on one's health, working and praying by oneself, and not relying on someone else prayer before they know that their prayers are answered.

 
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May 20, 2024, 12:19:16 PM
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OP, if you say there are fake religions, does that mean you believe in real religions? then what is the original religion? Because basically a belief can be assessed if you believe it.

Again regarding investment, as well as regarding religious statements, this is just a form of information diversion. Those who want their followers' investments to go into their own pockets thereby prohibiting their followers from putting money elsewhere. Their only goal is to control other people's wealth in order to enrich themselves, expanding this doctrine under the pretext of religion as a cover. With the development of information that is easily accessible, people are increasingly critical, especially about finances, therefore if they still believe in things that enslave themselves, it is because of the customs of their ancestors who inherited primitive ways of thinking.
I noticed you misunderstand my post and that's why you're misinterpreting the whole concept, I never talked about fake religions. if you noticed, I stated it clearly that I'm not against religion, I value it alot and my post is concerning false religious prophets using religion as a means of stealing from people, and those who blindly fall for their false teachings instead of investing on themselves.

 This post was not created to argue about which religion is best or not, you're the one bring that up and moreover no religion is best everyone has the right to chose which religion is best for them, so please let's not bring up that argument here, you could take that to off-topic board and discuss there, I believe lots your like-minds would be Interested in that topic.

 People believing in the primitive way of their ancestors is still another thing but it still falls under false religious leaders cause they're are still leaders in that category who make sure those primitive lifestyle are still kept by those they lead, presenty I've seen people being misled by different religious leaders into investing in their religion for their own selfish interests, those religions are not the problem but the false preachers deceiving their followers.
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May 20, 2024, 01:40:24 PM
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investment is something that is quite important in life, of course only people who really know make investments, not everyone makes investments because to make an investment of course you need good enough knowledge so that there are no losses, investment can guarantee our future, but even then It depends on us how we invest, because if the investment is not done well and correctly then of course there will be no profit to be had, also everyone of course has different thoughts and beliefs, maybe there are rich people who don't invest because they don't invest. don't want to do it but they still save for their future.

In my country, investment is not prohibited as long as it is done with good things, as well as my religion which does not prohibit investment because this is a business or trade so it is legal, but maybe in some countries or religions there are those who prohibit investment, but I don't know. What countries and religions prohibit investing.

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May 20, 2024, 02:18:37 PM
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 I value religion and I'm not against it, but this post is concerning those who are religious and allow it to affect their mode of thinking, most people blindly believe in false teachings by some religious leaders and think what they believe on would favour them without putting effort, well I don't doubt that miracle happens but there are people who are too relaxed and put little effort towards making investments now to make their grey days work free and more easy.

 I've overheard some false spiritual prophets mislead their audience, saying that Cryptocurrency is demonic and it's the money  created through the government to mislead people to hell and that according to the holybook a general currency would be created and used by those who have the mark of the beast bla bla bla, all these are just blind informations used to mislead people I believe there were people in the stone age or time when cowries were used who would never believe fiat money would be used in the future and would be very shocked right now if they were present, so why are people still shocked and confused as the money system is now evolving to digital currency which is Cryptocurrency, which has many assets for investment especially Bitcoin.

 I just hope those misleading their audience from making investment would read this place in the picture above, in their holy book (Ecclesiastes 11) where it talks about investing in different places cause you never can tell the bad luck they could have, alot of people missed an opportunity to invest in Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin especially cause they thought it was a scam or demonic but they were very unlucky to miss an opportunity to acquire wealth. Their are other people only depend on one source of income forgetting that things could go wrong and they'll be brought down to zero financial level. I'm not saying Bitcoin is the only investment option right now but people should spread their investment in different areas not only depending on office jobs, and most importantly avoid being misled by their religious leaders.
People are always free to believe whatever they think suits them well. And no one can shit in your belief system no matter what. In any case, if you think the religious beliefs you are under is disallowing you to earn money or live a comfortable life all because it pushes you to live a frugal and modest life, then I say fuck that and do what you want. The thing is that, you only live once, and it's not like you're not gonna be able to provide assistance to those who need it (I'd argue that you'll be able to do even more charitable activities soon as you get the wealth) once you got rich.

Money is even more evil than cryptocurrency, they even say money is the root of all evil, but why is it that these churches and televangelists require their followers to donate money to them? And we see these schmucks like Joel Osteen live in a mansion while their followers live in very poor conditions, isn't that even more evil? Quite recently, a televangelist is receiving flak online

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May 20, 2024, 04:59:49 PM
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investment is something that is quite important in life, of course only people who really know make investments, not everyone makes investments because to make an investment of course you need good enough knowledge so that there are no losses, investment can guarantee our future, but even then It depends on us how we invest, because if the investment is not done well and correctly then of course there will be no profit to be had, also everyone of course has different thoughts and beliefs, maybe there are rich people who don't invest because they don't invest. don't want to do it but they still save for their future.

In my country, investment is not prohibited as long as it is done with good things, as well as my religion which does not prohibit investment because this is a business or trade so it is legal, but maybe in some countries or religions there are those who prohibit investment, but I don't know. What countries and religions prohibit investing.
I have not heard countries prohibiting investments, but maybe with gambling, some countries are totally against with it. Maybe if you are doing illegal investments, of course the government will go against you, but if you are investing in legal assets or properties, the government will even benefit from it so there’s no way they’ll prohibit it from doing. However, when it comes to bitcoin, our government is not actually open about that but if we will invest privately, then they’ll have no control of that.

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May 20, 2024, 09:59:15 PM
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People are free to believe what they like based on religious or traditional beliefs, that's their business. I have always told people to think rationally rather than depending on any teachings. Most of these teachings from religious leaders are faulty since it is not based on the teachings in the Holy Books. Most of these religious followers are too lazy to read the teachings of the founders of their religion so they end up accepting the teachings of these new age teachers. The only businesses that I cannot invest in an illegal ones or the ones that promote immorality. No amount of religious teachings can convince me that investing in Bitcoin is sinful.
People will have different say on this. Some may instantly conclude that investment has no vital role in life, they will only bring risks and makes life complicated. That’s for those who’s lazy enough and are fearful to take some risks. However, for those who are open-minded individuals and would always believe that investment is the only way to change one’s life position and status, they will always root to succeed in the future even if it means committing mistakes and losses at first that will make them more encouraged to think more rationally on their investments.

 
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May 21, 2024, 12:00:53 AM
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Religion and politics are controversial topic and talking about it always brings conflict among people. But what can be said neutrally hurting everyone equally is, there is no god, god and religion are man made things and fighting for a higher being that doesn't exist is the most stupid thing a man can do.
If only we had no religion and no politics, the world worked together for mutual prosperity and development, we could have achieved more. But no, even though we have vast land and resources, we are fighting for land, even though we can co-exist in peace, we are fighting if my god is superior than your god. Humanity have alredy failed.

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I can somewhat agree on this one but if your religion tells you not to be a piece of shit or a stain of the Earth kind of person and doesn't ask you for money or anything like that, I don't see how you can be disregarding that teaching, that only tells me what kind of person you are which is a person that is ignorant and doesn't know a thing or two about learning. What you should do when you're a religion oriented person is if you try your best to be smart and think for yourself, you're in a religion not a cult after all so make sure that you're not going to just take all their word for it when you know that it's wrong and it clashes heavily with your personal principle, you can still love God and praise him but you still think for yourself.
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 I've overheard some false spiritual prophets mislead their audience, saying that Cryptocurrency is demonic and it's the money  created through the government to mislead people to hell and that according to the holybook
When there is a religious leader who says cryptocurrency is satan does not mean he is a false prophet, because things like this can arise because of the lack of information he has which makes him think like that, an example of how he only receives information about people who are deceived in the crypto world so they think that is an area where the devil works even though he himself may not fully understand what cryptocurrency is.
It's up to each person to believe it or not, if you don't believe it then ignore it because every person who believes in a particular religion will know about the law through the holy book so he shouldn't just depend on what the religious leader says because he could be wrong.

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First of all,religion is important,wealth/investment is also important,but people should also understand that religion or been too religious will not alleviate poverty.
Religion is an important cultural factor and it plays an important role in the lives of most people.,meanwhile,most people do not regard religion at all,they live thier lives as such that there's nothing like religion.
Investment is a personal decision and religion has no role or effects towards investments.Investments is also an important measure and to invest our money for our present and future needs is one part of being a good decision.

I also believe in God but I'll practically dispose any advice that'll alter my financial choices for survival.Christianity/religion is not against investment,it's just the misinterpretation and misinformation that has effects over thier wellbeing.

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I've overheard some false spiritual prophets mislead their audience, saying that Cryptocurrency is demonic and it's the money  created through the government to mislead people to hell and that according to the holybook a general currency would be created and used by those who have the mark of the beast bla bla bla, all these are just blind informations used to mislead people I believe there were people in the stone age or time when cowries were used who would never believe fiat money would be used in the future and would be very shocked right now if they were present, so why are people still shocked and confused as the money system is now evolving to digital currency which is Cryptocurrency, which has many assets for investment especially Bitcoin.

Which religion are you talking about? Christianity, Judaism or Islam? I don't know about Islam, but Judaism doesn't have a negative perception of money and wealth. I can assume that you are talking about Christianity, since you are referring to parts of the Holy Bible.
Early Christianity has a very negative view on money and wealth. The early Christians had to sell all their possessions and property, give the money to the poor and live a life in poverty. Not a lot of people would be willing to do such thing in the modern world.
Anyway, calling Bitcoin/crypto "demonic" is plain stupid. If Bitcoin is demonic then all the types of financial assets and currencies around the world are demonic as well.

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I value religion and I'm not against it, but this post is concerning those who are religious and allow it to affect their mode of thinking, most people blindly believe in false teachings by some religious leaders and think what they believe on would favour them without putting effort, well I don't doubt that miracle happens but there are people who are too relaxed and put little effort towards making investments now to make their grey days work free and more easy.

I'm a religious person and I value other people's religion but I give priority even more to humanity, that's all that matters to me, how you worship your religion is not my business and as a person that value humanity make sure you invest into your self. Not investing in today means you are actually not helping tomorrow no matter the amount of money you are making today because that source is not a guarantee that it will come forever, continuity in making money from a particular place is an bubble.

A person who teaches the ways of a particular religion must have seen how life is and if there is any way they preach that investment is bad, then I will advice to stop going to such place to worship, they don't deserve your presence talk more of even your acceptance into that religion, invest today and enjoy tomorrow in peace.
We do know that there are different religions that we do have on this world on which there would really be that in difference in terms on what are those things which are needed to be followed and which are that prohibited. Actually the thing about investment recommendations arent that bad either or something that it is really that preferred, but same as you said that i dont care much about other peoples views or behaviors towards scriptures whether they would really be following or not. We do know that we do earn on different way and we do have that different mindset when it comes to investing but we do know that it do shared up with the common goal on which you would really be making up money to have a better life. There are really just that other people who do go beyond into those basic principles on which they do derailed themselves into those non good stuffs.

It would really be just that normal for a human being to do their very best on looking for those income whether they do get from their own day job or came from their investment. Doesnt matter on what it would be
aslong it would be legal and would be ethical. We are sharing on the same goals and motives in life. Doesnt matter whether its scripture based or not because it would really be just that part of human nature that you would really be finding up ways on how to have a better life. The only thing what matter the most is that you do know on whats good and whats bad on which it would really be that too impossible that you cant
really be able to determine yourself in between those differences.

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I value religion and I'm not against it, but this post is concerning those who are religious and allow it to affect their mode of thinking, most people blindly believe in false teachings by some religious leaders and think what they believe on would favour them without putting effort, well I don't doubt that miracle happens but there are people who are too relaxed and put little effort towards making investments now to make their grey days work free and more easy.

It's high time we realize that some of these religious leaders are not preaching from the word of God on our various religious scripture but rather preach according to their own personal opinion that mostly favor them. Following them is not entirely bad but it has become very necessary for each individual to seek the knowledge of whatever religion they practice in order to avoid being mislead by people who are after their own interests and portraying themselves as man of God.

I belong to a religion and the religion itself through the scripture has taught us the importance of hardworking, business and investment that will earn us money rather than being dependent on others. While there are some means that are frown at, making investment to make some profit is not part of it. In as much as I regard some of these religious leaders, I do deviate from their teaching if it is not accurate or misleading but you can not tell whether they're misleading or right if you don't have a single knowledge of the religion you claim to be practicing.

In Christian, people need to give 10% of their money for God aka tithes, do you think the leader will not corrupt the money? Tongue

Similar in Islam, people are get brainwashed to believe that the leader always right, do you think the leader will not misuse his power? like selling anything that claimed to increase your merit? Tongue

Religion is important, but people should use their common sense before agree with anything.

Is the tithe suppose to be given to the leaders in the first place? This is what some of us are meant to believe but it's very far from the truth. Tithe is recommended to be paid but not to the religious leaders, it should be given to the less privilege around you. This is one among the reasons religious leaders are richer than their followers combined because money suppose to be given to the needy are being handover to them.

I do respect religious leaders since they are being considered as representatives of God on earth but even the scripture has made it clear that you should not continue to follow them when they are wrong. Invest in cryptocurrency and other assets if you have the means to better your future because no man of God will take your responsibility if things turn against you.











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I value religion and I'm not against it, but this post is concerning those who are religious and allow it to affect their mode of thinking, most people blindly believe in false teachings by some religious leaders and think what they believe on would favour them without putting effort, well I don't doubt that miracle happens but there are people who are too relaxed and put little effort towards making investments now to make their grey days work free and more easy.
I don't care if people have a different belief towards cryptocurrency, it is their choice to think if cryptocurrency is bad or good. But where I do have problems with people is when they think they do not need to invest or think of how money can be generated,  this is where they are getting it wrong. The life which we found ourselves money is just as important as food, which if you don't eat for some days you won't be able to live fine. Money is a necessity in life which we can't do without, this means since we need money for our everyday needs their is something that needs to be done to get steady flow of money. It is good to have a positive believe concerning money but belief is not just enough to gain access of money.

Investment,  money , this are things that have existed right from time. It will be too bad if people believe because of the religion they found themselves they need not to engage in investment or things that can generate more income, then it is wrong believe.  Having investment is good thing and having money is also a good thing.  Religion doesn't forbid people going into investment or thinking how to make money . I think people misunderstanding religion which they have mindset their belief can provide for them all they want.

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 I just hope those misleading their audience from making investment would read this place in the picture above, in their holy book (Ecclesiastes 11) where it talks about investing in different places cause you never can tell the bad luck they could have, alot of people missed an opportunity to invest in Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin especially cause they thought it was a scam or demonic but they were very unlucky to miss an opportunity to acquire wealth. Their are other people only depend on one source of income forgetting that things could go wrong and they'll be brought down to zero financial level. I'm not saying Bitcoin is the only investment option right now but people should spread their investment in different areas not only depending on office jobs, and most importantly avoid being misled by their religious leaders.
I've seen people who believe that technology will bring the end of the world and they will liken any technology that connects the world globally as a new world order from the devil. There's a popular pastor in my country that was against the 5G technology, preaching that it's a conspiracy by some elites to manipulate the world, even when Sim card first came out some people where insinuating that the chip is a code for 666. I'm not surprised that ignorant people will atribute Bitcoin, with some manipulative theory, but you and I know that it's not true, that it's digital cash coming to replace physical cash. The world is moving ahead and anybody that doesn't move along will be left behind, Bitcoin is a blessing to this generation, as a digital cash and an investment asset.











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There are imposters pretending to be godman they come up with some shitty logic which they tryna make their followers do in order to be successful but it's just extortion by making them believe in whatever they say and one might have seen this with Islam in Pakistan, Christianity in African nations and Hindus in India. I would say their own lack of knowledge is leading them to believe in these imposters because they don't know much about their own religion and scriptures hence they blindly believe in whatever imposter states.

When it comes to investment it's always advised to diversify your investment and that's the basics of investing so nothing new you are mentioning here.

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May 21, 2024, 04:21:27 PM
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There are many people that are deceiving others in the name of religion, they will tell their followers that technology is a sin, I've heard a lot of ridiculous stories about how the devil is manipulating people with technology. There is a popular pastor in my country that preaches to his congregation that 5G technology is a conspiracy theory for certain elites to manipulate the world, others says that Bitcoin is one currency that wants to unify the world, to bring about one world order from the devil. You and I knows that it's not true, that from the beginning of creation, that humans have been creative, so what is happening now is that physical cash is moving into digital cash, and Bitcoin was created to remove centralized restrictions to transactions.











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May 21, 2024, 04:23:10 PM
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Religious leaders are a set of people that some individuals can easily begin to follow blindly. But yet again, religious leaders do not know everything and especially do not have the information concerning proper investment. This is why it's always good to not just take the words of anyone without verifying for yourself; even if that person is a religious leader, you have to find the facts in what they are saying.

Accept that not all religious leaders are genuine, and you will be able to preserve some common sense when dealing with them.
It just amazes me on how some religious leaders are able to convince their congregation about investment and most of the followers will foolishly follow and either get scammed or duped in the process and after they will be praying for those scammers to die when it was their spiritual leader that mislead them in the first place. Just recently it got to my knowledge that some churches now teaches their followers how to trade online so what if they run into losses how can they be able to deal with that, very bad some religious leaders have left the gospel and misleading their followers all in the name of investment. Most followers also get fooled all in the name of trying to obey their spiritual leaders and most religious leaders have taken as an avenue to scam people since majority of their followers hacken to what they are being told.

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I'm not saying Bitcoin is the only investment option right now but people should spread their investment in different areas not only depending on office jobs, and most importantly avoid being misled by their religious leaders.
Of course, BTC is not the only investment option available, but there are many others as well, but if it has entered the crypto world, BTC is the most trusted. We don't know what the future will look like and it should be necessary to prepare for the long term, especially if you have invested in BTC for the long term. Related to the above, I personally remain focused on the core goal of continuing to invest long-term in BTC.

Everyone is free to determine their attitude based on their own beliefs, no matter what other people say about the best potential in investment, when it comes to the Cryptocurrency realm, Bitcoin is the one that is most sought after by investors. Preparing for long-term investment is the best plan for financial freedom in the future, Bitcoin is still at the top as the most trusted Cryptocurrency as the most profitable asset based on its historical price movements.
Investors who put their trust in Bitcoin have gained many benefits from investments in the past, of course I will also ignore any investment advice from other people after gaining several benefits after Bitcoin reached its highest price.

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Of course, BTC is not the only investment option available, but there are many others as well, but if it has entered the crypto world, BTC is the most trusted. We don't know what the future will look like and it should be necessary to prepare for the long term, especially if you have invested in BTC for the long term. Related to the above, I personally remain focused on the core goal of continuing to invest long-term in BTC.


Bitcoin is the most trustworthy coin and has been accepted since its creation but due to its expensive nature and reward after long term holding people are likely to accept altcoins more often because they surge quickly. But I think we should not focus on quick gain but we have to focus on a trusted opportunity like that of Bitcoin which does not decrease the value of our money if we work with patience.

Bitcoin is a better option therefore one should not move here and there in search of investment opportunities as we already have found it in the form of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is now in an increasing state so if someone has already held it then they will be in profit because the worth goes to 67k$.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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