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June 16, 2024, 06:10:46 PM
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Some investors are generally interested in buying more BTC at DIP prices and tend to sell during bullish times. But holding is more important because it will happen again and again when ATH is observed in the market with gap of few months. A bullish period is characterized by overall market optimism and expectations of higher performance for the future. Even offers higher returns than bearish ones. A bull market usually reflects the utmost confidence of investors that a person can align their investments in this positive trend. Increasing market value makes investors optimistic about the positive loop. These positive market conditions may prevent investors from being psychologically tempted to sell BTC. It can even discourage selling during market downturns. Many investment firms can build potential wealth by investing more during periods of BTC price appreciation.
There is nothing wrong with someone buying an asset when the market dips and then selling it when the market is bullish even if the market manages to go higher than where they sell their assets because they have at least earned some profit on their investments, that's the main purpose and if it's achieved, it's all good.

Bitcoin in general is considered to be a long-term investment asset because it has a cyclical movement pattern where it tends to reach the peak at the end of the cycle and goes down at the beginning of a new cycle, and people know that if they hold, they can gain higher profits, but there is also nothing wrong in buying and selling multiple times during a full cycle.


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June 16, 2024, 09:54:55 PM
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There is nothing wrong with someone buying an asset when the market dips and then selling it when the market is bullish even if the market manages to go higher than where they sell their assets because they have at least earned some profit on their investments, that's the main purpose and if it's achieved, it's all good.
Profit is profit is what's on their mind.

I know that many won't agree to that to sell but that's how you're going to profit. If you don't sell and you hold forever, there's nothing with it as well. To each his own on this market.

You'd miss the buying moment at the lowest? then buy it before it finally pushes to the peak. There are so many stories that we've seen in the past on how they regret it.

And soon, we'd see more stories from both sides again, those that didn't sold during the bull run and those that didn't bought during the dip or bear market.

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June 16, 2024, 09:55:10 PM
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Many investors tend to withdraw their investments during bullish periods, but the diversity of investors in bitcoin is remarkable. But now that the high price trend is withdrawing some amount of bitcoin, how can the decision to fix the purchase target during the next bearish season? Although I would mostly not make a sell decision and wait until the high price of $100k or so. Investing in bitcoin can provide a lot of psychological peace of mind which is not the case with any other investment.
People loves to buy when the price is down and sell when the price keeps going bullish.This is the pattern many people had been using to make money from the market which is cool and easy for people that have the fund. The price of Bitcoin is doing well now and the price has been going up and down which has been making more investors to sell their holdings because of the fear of price of Bitcoin falling. This is also an opportunity for us to buy take part in the bull because I know that it's not going to come now and there is still time for us to ride the market.

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June 16, 2024, 10:30:01 PM
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People loves to buy when the price is down and sell when the price keeps going bullish.This is the pattern many people had been using to make money from the market which is cool and easy for people that have the fund. The price of Bitcoin is doing well now and the price has been going up and down which has been making more investors to sell their holdings because of the fear of price of Bitcoin falling. This is also an opportunity for us to buy take part in the bull because I know that it's not going to come now and there is still time for us to ride the market.
Those who understand the market just follow it up and make profit from it as if it's nothing both in bull and bearish seasons. This year's bull run, we don't know when it's going to happen, but there is too much speculation and expectation from both big and small investors, which I think they might not easily be moved this time by any small sell panic that could have affected the market. The bitcoin price is already suffering significantly, which I believe is the best time for people to buy and hold down for the long run.

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June 16, 2024, 11:39:13 PM
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Some investors are generally interested in buying more BTC at DIP prices and tend to sell during bullish times. But holding is more important because it will happen again and again when ATH is observed in the market with gap of few months. A bullish period is characterized by overall market optimism and expectations of higher performance for the future. Even offers higher returns than bearish ones. A bull market usually reflects the utmost confidence of investors that a person can align their investments in this positive trend. Increasing market value makes investors optimistic about the positive loop. These positive market conditions may prevent investors from being psychologically tempted to sell BTC. It can even discourage selling during market downturns. Many investment firms can build potential wealth by investing more during periods of BTC price appreciation.
There is nothing wrong with someone buying an asset when the market dips and then selling it when the market is bullish even if the market manages to go higher than where they sell their assets because they have at least earned some profit on their investments, that's the main purpose and if it's achieved, it's all good.

Bitcoin in general is considered to be a long-term investment asset because it has a cyclical movement pattern where it tends to reach the peak at the end of the cycle and goes down at the beginning of a new cycle, and people know that if they hold, they can gain higher profits, but there is also nothing wrong in buying and selling multiple times during a full cycle.
If you're giving the opportunity to take small profit for 2-month investment or take a very huge profit for a 1-year investment which, would you prefer? Of course you will choose the big profit, and that is why people see the idea of selling Bitcoin when there is a short increase in the price of Bitcoin as a bad idea. Only hungry or hasty investors are willing to take quick gains, if one wants to rich and wealthy then investing a lot in Bitcoin and holding it for long so that the return will be massive will be their ultimate goal.

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June 16, 2024, 11:46:07 PM
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The reality people who buy Bitcoin at the dip and sell during bullish is better than DCA and holding.

From the past 4 years, if someone can buy and sell at the right time, they can at least earn 12x since the price on 2020 was $5K and now it's $70K. If they're DCA-ing Bitcoin from 2020, they're only earn 2x-3x.

Trader is better than investor, everyone can become investor, but not everyone can become trader.
My perspective on Bitcoin is that you can always make a profit within four years, regardless of the purchase price, even if you buy at the previous all-time high. If the market stops delivering on this expectation, it might signal that it's no longer a viable investment.
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June 17, 2024, 04:24:12 AM
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Some investors are generally interested in buying more BTC at DIP prices and tend to sell during bullish times. But holding is more important because it will happen again and again when ATH is observed in the market with gap of few months. A bullish period is characterized by overall market optimism and expectations of higher performance for the future. Even offers higher returns than bearish ones. A bull market usually reflects the utmost confidence of investors that a person can align their investments in this positive trend. Increasing market value makes investors optimistic about the positive loop. These positive market conditions may prevent investors from being psychologically tempted to sell BTC. It can even discourage selling during market downturns. Many investment firms can build potential wealth by investing more during periods of BTC price appreciation.
There is nothing wrong with someone buying an asset when the market dips and then selling it when the market is bullish even if the market manages to go higher than where they sell their assets because they have at least earned some profit on their investments, that's the main purpose and if it's achieved, it's all good.

Bitcoin in general is considered to be a long-term investment asset because it has a cyclical movement pattern where it tends to reach the peak at the end of the cycle and goes down at the beginning of a new cycle, and people know that if they hold, they can gain higher profits, but there is also nothing wrong in buying and selling multiple times during a full cycle.
If you're giving the opportunity to take small profit for 2-month investment or take a very huge profit for a 1-year investment which, would you prefer? Of course you will choose the big profit, and that is why people see the idea of selling Bitcoin when there is a short increase in the price of Bitcoin as a bad idea. Only hungry or hasty investors are willing to take quick gains, if one wants to rich and wealthy then investing a lot in Bitcoin and holding it for long so that the return will be massive will be their ultimate goal.

Short-term or long-term investment will depend on the conditions and preferences of each investor. Although short-term investors make small profits in 2 months, if they can repeat that many times in 1 year, do you think that profit is still small? Bitcoin is unpredictable, what if we don't have a bull season and now we enter a bear season, what will you gain as a long term investor? Meanwhile, short-term investors will have the opportunity to buy back bitcoin at a lower price and own more bitcoin than you.

Not everyone who invests long-term will earn better profits than short-term investments, profit is determined by each person's investment strategy, thinking and vision. Just because you can't make big profits in a short time and think that others are the same as you, don't impose your thoughts on others. In investing, taking profits is never wrong and we should respect the decisions of others.

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Some investors are generally interested in buying more BTC at DIP prices and tend to sell during bullish times. But holding is more important because it will happen again and again when ATH is observed in the market with gap of few months. A bullish period is characterized by overall market optimism and expectations of higher performance for the future. Even offers higher returns than bearish ones. A bull market usually reflects the utmost confidence of investors that a person can align their investments in this positive trend. Increasing market value makes investors optimistic about the positive loop. These positive market conditions may prevent investors from being psychologically tempted to sell BTC. It can even discourage selling during market downturns. Many investment firms can build potential wealth by investing more during periods of BTC price appreciation.
I don't think there's anything wrong with buying low and then selling high, that's literally where the money's at in most investment industries, and imagine if everyone just held their bitcoins for dear life, there will be a bubble that would literally implode upon the first dollar sold on this network. It's good that people are holding and I can't and won't disregard how important it is but so is buying and selling, these things are what keeps the wheels turning in the bitcoin network, if even one of these things go away we're fucked.

Even buying when the coin's at a high price point is just as important, it keeps the interest coming for the peeps on the network, makes them think that there is still a chance to make bank even if the price point is this high already (which they are).

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Short-term or long-term investment will depend on the conditions and preferences of each investor. Although short-term investors make small profits in 2 months, if they can repeat that many times in 1 year, do you think that profit is still small? Bitcoin is unpredictable, what if we don't have a bull season and now we enter a bear season, what will you gain as a long term investor? Meanwhile, short-term investors will have the opportunity to buy back bitcoin at a lower price and own more bitcoin than you.

Not everyone who invests long-term will earn better profits than short-term investments, profit is determined by each person's investment strategy, thinking and vision. Just because you can't make big profits in a short time and think that others are the same as you, don't impose your thoughts on others. In investing, taking profits is never wrong and we should respect the decisions of others.
I agree that short term that is done many times is a great way to make profit, but also it is harder work and it is not easy neither. We are talking about something that will take a while, and we should not really consider that as important. I think we should probably consider the situation to be sensitive because people may lose some money there, and I would not suggest that at all.

The best way to move forward would be just thinking that you are going to be doing fine, and if you can do that then the result will be quite good. I know that it will take a while, but that doesn't mean that we are going to make profit easily, the method is easy but the path is hard. So we should just let the situation run and see which one will be better.

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If you're giving the opportunity to take small profit for 2-month investment or take a very huge profit for a 1-year investment which, would you prefer? Of course you will choose the big profit, and that is why people see the idea of selling Bitcoin when there is a short increase in the price of Bitcoin as a bad idea. Only hungry or hasty investors are willing to take quick gains, if one wants to rich and wealthy then investing a lot in Bitcoin and holding it for long so that the return will be massive will be their ultimate goal.
a trader or regular smart investor will sell at high so they can buy more in the dip. It may be short term daily trade or long term like years using bull bear cycle. This is basic knowledge

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If you're giving the opportunity to take small profit for 2-month investment or take a very huge profit for a 1-year investment which, would you prefer? Of course you will choose the big profit, and that is why people see the idea of selling Bitcoin when there is a short increase in the price of Bitcoin as a bad idea. Only hungry or hasty investors are willing to take quick gains, if one wants to rich and wealthy then investing a lot in Bitcoin and holding it for long so that the return will be massive will be their ultimate goal.
a trader or regular smart investor will sell at high so they can buy more in the dip. It may be short term daily trade or long term like years using bull bear cycle. This is basic knowledge

Long term holders are buying every dip or as what most of us are doing here, DCA and make it your friend as this strategy is the best we got even for us regular and average joe traders. And with that, even at bullish phase ,we can continue to accumulate and currently the price is around $65k which is still a good buying price in my opinion.

Those who are selling early are short term traders or what we call speculators, just taking advantage of every dip but it entails that you have a lot of time in your hand to monitor the price and sell at the right time.

 
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June 18, 2024, 03:56:19 AM
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Short-term or long-term investment will depend on the conditions and preferences of each investor. Although short-term investors make small profits in 2 months, if they can repeat that many times in 1 year, do you think that profit is still small? Bitcoin is unpredictable, what if we don't have a bull season and now we enter a bear season, what will you gain as a long term investor? Meanwhile, short-term investors will have the opportunity to buy back bitcoin at a lower price and own more bitcoin than you.

Not everyone who invests long-term will earn better profits than short-term investments, profit is determined by each person's investment strategy, thinking and vision. Just because you can't make big profits in a short time and think that others are the same as you, don't impose your thoughts on others. In investing, taking profits is never wrong and we should respect the decisions of others.
I agree that short term that is done many times is a great way to make profit, but also it is harder work and it is not easy neither. We are talking about something that will take a while, and we should not really consider that as important. I think we should probably consider the situation to be sensitive because people may lose some money there, and I would not suggest that at all.

The best way to move forward would be just thinking that you are going to be doing fine, and if you can do that then the result will be quite good. I know that it will take a while, but that doesn't mean that we are going to make profit easily, the method is easy but the path is hard. So we should just let the situation run and see which one will be better.
From the explanation above, it seems to me that it is better to do both, namely short-term trading and long-term trading, so that that way we have long-term savings and earn daily income. In fact, what is more difficult is short-term trading, because it requires more patience and has a higher level of risk. Even short-term trading will produce large profits because it accumulates over time

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June 20, 2024, 12:28:20 PM
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Short-term or long-term investment will depend on the conditions and preferences of each investor. Although short-term investors make small profits in 2 months, if they can repeat that many times in 1 year, do you think that profit is still small? Bitcoin is unpredictable, what if we don't have a bull season and now we enter a bear season, what will you gain as a long term investor? Meanwhile, short-term investors will have the opportunity to buy back bitcoin at a lower price and own more bitcoin than you.

Not everyone who invests long-term will earn better profits than short-term investments, profit is determined by each person's investment strategy, thinking and vision. Just because you can't make big profits in a short time and think that others are the same as you, don't impose your thoughts on others. In investing, taking profits is never wrong and we should respect the decisions of others.
I agree that short term that is done many times is a great way to make profit, but also it is harder work and it is not easy neither. We are talking about something that will take a while, and we should not really consider that as important. I think we should probably consider the situation to be sensitive because people may lose some money there, and I would not suggest that at all.

The best way to move forward would be just thinking that you are going to be doing fine, and if you can do that then the result will be quite good. I know that it will take a while, but that doesn't mean that we are going to make profit easily, the method is easy but the path is hard. So we should just let the situation run and see which one will be better.
From the explanation above, it seems to me that it is better to do both, namely short-term trading and long-term trading, so that that way we have long-term savings and earn daily income. In fact, what is more difficult is short-term trading, because it requires more patience and has a higher level of risk. Even short-term trading will produce large profits because it accumulates over time

I'm not saying that short-term is better than long-term, and I'm not denying that short-term investing is much riskier and more difficult. But as I said, it will depend on each person's preferences and choices, because each person will have different strengths and weaknesses and we need to choose the method that best suits us to bring the best results.

If you or someone else can combine the two and achieve the desired results, nothing could be better. To me, both are ways to profit in the markets and I don't hate either one. What I want to say is that people should make appropriate choices and we should not criticize others just because they don't make the same choices we do.

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June 20, 2024, 02:08:16 PM
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Some investors are generally interested in buying more BTC at DIP prices and tend to sell during bullish times. But holding is more important because it will happen again and again when ATH is observed in the market with gap of few months. A bullish period is characterized by overall market optimism and expectations of higher performance for the future. Even offers higher returns than bearish ones. A bull market usually reflects the utmost confidence of investors that a person can align their investments in this positive trend. Increasing market value makes investors optimistic about the positive loop. These positive market conditions may prevent investors from being psychologically tempted to sell BTC. It can even discourage selling during market downturns. Many investment firms can build potential wealth by investing more during periods of BTC price appreciation.
There is nothing wrong with someone buying an asset when the market dips and then selling it when the market is bullish even if the market manages to go higher than where they sell their assets because they have at least earned some profit on their investments, that's the main purpose and if it's achieved, it's all good.

Bitcoin in general is considered to be a long-term investment asset because it has a cyclical movement pattern where it tends to reach the peak at the end of the cycle and goes down at the beginning of a new cycle, and people know that if they hold, they can gain higher profits, but there is also nothing wrong in buying and selling multiple times during a full cycle.
If you're giving the opportunity to take small profit for 2-month investment or take a very huge profit for a 1-year investment which, would you prefer? Of course you will choose the big profit, and that is why people see the idea of selling Bitcoin when there is a short increase in the price of Bitcoin as a bad idea. Only hungry or hasty investors are willing to take quick gains, if one wants to rich and wealthy then investing a lot in Bitcoin and holding it for long so that the return will be massive will be their ultimate goal.

Some people see profit making in Bitcoin investment as a different thing from your own point of view, in terms of profit making in Bitcoin investment, both short term and long term investors make good decisions but the amount of profit that has been made is not considered rather the amount that is invested. You don't encourage some one who is new to the investment to go into long term investment in order to make more profit rather if such person can take profit from short term investment I think it's worth it since he will be more encouraged to buy more and HODL. It is the decision of the investor to either choose long term or short term investment but which ever one one finds to be more profitable I don't think they should be considered as hungry as you said if they are moved to sell to take profit in their investments.

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a trader or regular smart investor will sell at high so they can buy more in the dip. It may be short term daily trade or long term like years using bull bear cycle. This is basic knowledge
Traders and investors will carry out their own effective methods in every cycle in different ways, because traders prioritize short-term strategies to achieve profits with the targets they want. Meanwhile, investors will usually focus more on long-term duration with the target of bigger profits because the investor's job itself is not just focused on one thing. But more for many sectors in order to achieve maximum profits within the duration of the market cycle, as has happened to Bitcoin in previous cycles.

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June 20, 2024, 02:38:43 PM
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Traders and investors will carry out their own effective methods in every cycle in different ways, because traders prioritize short-term strategies to achieve profits with the targets they want. Meanwhile, investors will usually focus more on long-term duration with the target of bigger profits because the investor's job itself is not just focused on one thing. But more for many sectors in order to achieve maximum profits within the duration of the market cycle, as has happened to Bitcoin in previous cycles.
Trading and investing are different so traders and investors must use different methods but there are things they will cross each other. Trading or investing, they must know fundamentals of that asset that need to be good. Trading a bad cryptocurrency contains more risk than trading a good cryptocurrency because there will less risk of bankruptcy, rug pull.

From common fundamentals, they will separate with each other to two directions for trading and investment. It's where they start to use different methods for trading and investing and build up their plans for short term trading and long term investing.

Long term holders are buying every dip or as what most of us are doing here, DCA and make it your friend as this strategy is the best we got even for us regular and average joe traders. And with that, even at bullish phase ,we can continue to accumulate and currently the price is around $65k which is still a good buying price in my opinion.
They need to have good investment plan to continue their DCA when market turns to bearish, correct or draw down. If they don't have money, nothing to do with the market or DCA.

If they don't have money source for emergency, they will have situations when they can not DCA even they really want to. Can not DCA more and even have to sell their bitcoins when they don't want to.

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June 20, 2024, 02:57:28 PM
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Some investors are generally interested in buying more BTC at DIP prices and tend to sell during bullish times. But holding is more important because it will happen again and again when ATH is observed in the market with gap of few months. A bullish period is characterized by overall market optimism and expectations of higher performance for the future. Even offers higher returns than bearish ones. A bull market usually reflects the utmost confidence of investors that a person can align their investments in this positive trend. Increasing market value makes investors optimistic about the positive loop. These positive market conditions may prevent investors from being psychologically tempted to sell BTC. It can even discourage selling during market downturns. Many investment firms can build potential wealth by investing more during periods of BTC price appreciation.

The risk in trading is higher than that of holding and so as the profit if managed by an experienced trader. But there are times were even the market charts form a new trend entirely different from that of your vocabulary, whales can also make a turn in the market by buying or selling in large quantity. However in times like this the trader usually runs into loss if he made his prediction from his perspective. But if you're a long term holding, you have nothing to worry about because bulls, and dip would come but we'll be having more of the bull, as the demand increases, so would the price also increase.

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June 20, 2024, 04:37:06 PM
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Well, from a purely pragmatic perspective of making more profit, it makes sense to buy low, sell high, then buy low again, as long as you can buy it for less than you sold it for. This way, a person can maximize the value if it's done properly. For example, one could buy at $4k in 2017, sell for $18k at the end of that year, and then buy again for, say, $10k in 2018, then sell for $60k in 2021, and so on. This reduces some of the risk because you can cash out when there's good profit, and then just way for the price to fall significantly to buy even more BTC.
But often it's just not worth it to spend time on looking for these patterns, so it's easier to just hodl or do DCA.


It is really simple to detect the price movements of Bitcoin when you check it's past historical journey. You will find it very easy to know when it fell and when it went up.but judging from the current market price is not always the same as to know when a certain move was over to join the beginning of the next big move. So in my opinion DCA will make a better investment strategy and maybe taking the opportunities in buying significant dips and holding for specified length of time.
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Last edit: June 20, 2024, 05:51:54 PM by coolcoinz
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The reality people who buy Bitcoin at the dip and sell during bullish is better than DCA and holding.

From the past 4 years, if someone can buy and sell at the right time, they can at least earn 12x since the price on 2020 was $5K and now it's $70K. If they're DCA-ing Bitcoin from 2020, they're only earn 2x-3x.

Trader is better than investor, everyone can become investor, but not everyone can become trader.

It's not that easy. Many people thought they were great traders, but they happened to trade on:
Mt. Gox
BTC-e
Quadriga
FTX
I could go on, but many people won't even know smaller exchanges that disappeared with people's money.

Then there are other issues.
Even good traders sometimes make mistakes and mistakes cost you a lot of money. You can make a few great trades over the years and then a bad one and all your profits are gone.
You can lose the account somehow, get hacked...
As a holder I don't pay any taxes, but if I were a trader I'd have to do it every year.

We all have our plans for bitcoin and my plan is to hold. I've seen many of my friends try trading and do well for a couple years and then get destroyed by a black swan event like Terra Luna or FTX.

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June 20, 2024, 05:53:17 PM
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Decisions! vary from individual to another, so assuming that we all do the same results in terribly bad for any asset.

In the case of bitcoin the main argument is hodl, but that does not mean that in this case the idea is transferred to a community decision, but rather to an idea of ​​a group of holders, fortunately this is the case, hence sell-buy is essential for bitcoin to exist, and then the hodl makes sense.


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